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Lennie, [21/05/2022 17:13]
#Eden_Proxy :
--M1--: "Quick question: if we have 181,815 EOS in the Eden Treasury, why is it the Eden Proxies only have 66,000 votes? Before discussing the ENF voting with their tokens, shouldn't this be taken care of first?"
--M2-- "Eden Treasury doesn’t vote for Eden Proxy"
--M1--: "Shouldn't it?"
--M2--: "It was suggested in the CD meeting. To send a signal"
--M1--: "Hard to discuss whether the ENF should or could do anything in regards to voting if we haven't done it ourselves".
--CD1--: "Eden's elected leadership don't have the active keys for the genesis.eden account yet."
--M1--: "I'm for making bold moves in both the governance and finances of the network. We all know what needs to be done, the question is whether or not we have the power and will to do it. I applaud Yves for having taken the initiative in both and working within the confines of the system as is, and blazing a trail forward where no one new how."
--CD1--: "Maybe many of the paid BPs look around and see the ones doing nothing and want to change things, but they can't. They would be waiting for an organization like EDEN to come along, demonstrate that it understands what is happening, and maybe those BPs would be amenable to giving this organization some voting weight to attempt to address the problem."

#EdenOnEOS :
--CD1--: "The transparency projects that many have been speaking of and hoping for, and building piecemeal - those projects can become a core mission of Eden. Chain Transparency. If Eden wanted to, it could replicate our process, and any other cool apps that we're going to be creating and bundle them into a dapp that others can use. At the moment though, others can't just use Eden without a great deal of wasted energy."
--M1--: "So genesis eden might have to polish edenOS for the best of what genesis eden wants to do."
--CD1--: "Sure, get the contracts and interfaces built so that others can use them."
--M1--: "this brings up the point that the most important thing is "the eden process." The edenOS code can be rewritten but the concept of electing people to distribute funds, or build a community throught consensus is the "gem" perhaps??"
--CD1--: "Yeah, finding that 'gem' has been difficult. I think it's the political playoffs process itself. It seems to work, but only when there is a sufficiently large/diverse group of people playing the game."

#Sybil :
--M1--: "Annual dues and intro meetings are both imperfect sybil resistance, not sybil proof. The election is theoretically sybil proof, although I look forward to analyzing an attempted attack at some point. But it's also not a big deal to allow sybil attacks if there are no positive rights given to the community at large, and all benefits are a function of one's participation in elections."
--M2--: "Maybe at some point Eden should run a test election where it provides a bounty for white-hat sybil attackers who reveal shortcomings and suggest solutions. We are in the era of deep fakes now."
--M3--: "the bounties often stimulate putting fakes in (they again incentivise attackers to collect them, because price of putting them there and pointing to them is far smaller than researching where the real attackers at."
--M4--: "Then we may just need some sort of system that rewards or tracks reputation. Where when someone is caught doing something shady, they have something to lose."

#Chief_Delegates-meet : 1
"Apologies for the delay, Here's the meeting notes from the most recent CD meeting: https://bywire.news/articles/eos-chief-delegates-meeting-5"

#Chief_Delegates-meet : 2
"EdenOnEOS Chief Delegate Meeting #6 - Thursday, May 20, 2022 - https://odysee.com/@EdenonEOS:f/Chief-Delegate-Meeting-6:4 "

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#Recap Eden Member group, 7 days Saturday-Friday 2022-05-27

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#Author_Comments :
Eden member group in a bit of a lull this week, short work on #recaps this week.
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#Eden_debating? :
--M1-- : "I see increasing negativity in the https://t.me/EdenOSinfo public channel. Constructive criticism should be encouraged and supported. Constant repetition of the same negative topic without offering a solution should not be."
--M2-- : "Is the purpose of the public group open debate? Or is it to help onboard people into Eden & EOS? There are plenty other places for public debate. Perhaps a privilege of Eden Membership can be the ability to participate in well structured and moderated, open public debates? No point in joining if you can get that privilege without joining."
--M3-- : "ya maybe it is (the open debate part). Maybe part of what Eden needs to do is define itself and its intentions in a public forum. Our public Eden channel seems to have the eye of many in the EOS community who actually care about EOS' success, so of all the places to debate the negative viewpoints, why not there, and if not there where else?"
--M4-- : "My personal view of the EdenOnEOS Channel is that it's also a place for the EOS Community to engage with Eden. I'd encourage delegates to be present and engage there with the public, especially on governance topics. By the way, toxicity is the real problem, not negativity as long as it's expressed in a civil and rational manner to be debated."

#Eden_Hispanic :
"Happy day EDEN Members! Weekly call in "Eden - Spark", any member of the hispanic community (or not) is welcome. The link to the meeting found in the TG group. Thanks!
https://t.me/eos_espanol"

#Chief_Delegates-meet :
"Meeting Minutes 19 May 2022 - notes from CD meeting #6 last week.
Main items covered:
▶️ Individual updates
▶️ Vote for Yves as ENF President discussed
▶️ What areas should CDs vote on?
▶️ Why Eden & what is Eden's future?

https://bywire.news/articles/eos-chief-delegates-meeting-6"

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Eden Members #recap for this past week will be postponed a day or two. Entering my last week of a 7 month contract and simply flat out! 🥴😁🐬
#Recap Eden Member group, past week up to and including Saturday 2022-06-04

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#Author_Comments : I wish to again emphasize that #recaps only point to some of all posts/discussions. They are in no way a complete reference to the same. The #recaps are only meant to serve as a guide to some of the interesting topics.
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#EOS_Yield+ : https://t.me/c/1186628781/28471
"“... a liquidity rewards program designed to incentivize TVL in DeFi applications on EOS would be one of the most impactful drivers of network growth.”" - https://www.eosgo.io/news/yield-blue-paper-liqudity-rewards-on-eos

#EOS_support : (some words related to "ram cleaning") :
- Question - "Is there any information on how to do ram cleaning?"
- Answered - "One case to free up RAM is: If you sell a token you hold in your EOS Account and the token balance is zero, if it doesn't automatically, you can recover RAM through the "close" action with Token's Contract.
For EOS click here: https://bloks.io/account/eosio.token?loadContract=true&tab=Actions&account=eosio.token&scope=eosio.token&limit=100&action=close enter your eos account and symbol "4,EOS"
or another example for EOSDT here: https://bloks.io/account/eosdtsttoken?loadContract=true&tab=Actions&account=eosdtsttoken&scope=eosdtsttoken&limit=100&action=close
We don't have an article yet, but it's planned to write one for that topic."

#Moving_Eden_Forward : (discussion mainly among Eden members whom are also members of ƒractally)
"Focusing on the next logical actions steps for moving Eden forward. Wednesdays 1300 UTC - https://gofractally.com/events/moving-eden-forward"

#EOS_Community :
- Question - "Do we have any new announcements?"
- Answered - "The EOS community is rebranding the main net. There is a cooperative between EOS chains, there is good governance happening at EDEN, and the fractally white paper is being coded into a very exciting Blockchain application. EOS is evolving into a federation of DOAs, Smart Companies, and DACs, which separately and together are coding Open Source software solutions that are a strong foundation for public goods. In addition, for profit businesses are attracting VC funding to build on top of these blockchain and open source solutions."

#Fractally_related : (& Eden connected)
"Proposal for Eden Fractal - https://edencreators.com/edenfractal
I'm proposing the name "Empowering Eden Contributors" for this event.
We are also looking to schedule another weekly meeting on another day of the week: Proposal for Fractal Forums - https://edencreators.com/fractalforums
I'm proposing the name "Moving Eden Forward" for this event.
If the group is open to it, we may join on StreamYard to have the meeting there as part of the live stream event rather than on Zoom as we normally do. Not sure the level of interest yet. I'm just a facilitator. My suggestion for the Live Stream event is to theme it around these questions or something similar to spark convo and valuable content:
What has been your greatest recent contribution to the EOS network?
What's something valuable that you'd like to see happen next on EOS?"
#DAOs_Legal_Wrapper :
"New paper on legal wrapping for DAOs. Read and discuss!
From https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4123737
"'Finally, it is helpful to keep in mind that legal and operational timelines can vary considerably. In many instances, DAOs develop organically before their legal wrappers. DAOs can begin with a catalyst organizing a small community with a particular mission or goal. At the beginning stages, members coalesce around communication platforms like Discord and Telegram. As the DAO grows, members may, but certainly not always, choose to launch a token and potentially raise capital for the DAO’s treasury by having members contribute assets. DAOs commonly also leverage blockchain technology to implement governance over the DAO, a process that can involve using any number of open-source tools and dapps that have preset and customizable organizational structures or protocols. DAOs operating in this model tend to start small, and legal wrappers are often only considered as DAOs scale—or after they run into trouble due to a hack or operational problems that create liability.'"

#ENF_Eden : (related to #DAOs_Legal_Wrapper, words from Yves La Rose) "Please don't make Eden a formal legal entity. Please keep that out of bylaws. Please keep Eden as a smart contract operated DAO."
"CDs can form an entity to interact with the "real world" if they wish (that's not Eden). I will not support, and would campaign against, getting Eden to be a formal entity. Please don't transform Eden itself into a formal legal entity."
"I am not neutral on Eden's future. I wish to see it succeed and fill a key role. Grow your membership. Become a non-arguable weight within the ecosystem."

#DAOs_Legal_Wrapper :
--M1-- : "Uniqueness is attractive. We don't all have to agree on the definition of DAO... It's a logical process set in motion by people. And we have to tend to it carefully, like one does any garden. Gardens are themselves like systems of smart contracts, with various yields from unique processes.
Eden's main strength is that it is a collection of real people from around the world who are not worried about fitting into a single set of regional laws. We're trying to build something that is supra-national. If individuals wish to create a 'legal wrapper' for a specific purpose, it's something that they can do. But they can't speak for the whole organization, without basically inviting an enemy to come and set up in our garden permanently."
--M2-- : "The amount of time and energy on the idea of Eden on EOS being turned into or using a company..."
--M3-- : "From my perspective on what a DAO is, which is the only direction in which I personally support Eden progressing, "Eden's next step..." doesn't even make grammatical sense. Eden doesn't take steps. Members take steps. I member wants to form a legal entity, he should do so. Members can do things, and we are all using the fractal governance process to organize our efforts toward a common goal. I'm starting to prefer thinking that what we are *doing* is DAO. We are exhibiting decentralized & autonomous organization, rather than being "a" decentralized autonomous organization, which apparently implies to most people a form of top-down organization that I think isn't super compatible with fractal gov."
--M1-- : "We have to think about what Eden can be in 3,5,7,10 years. When you really step back and consider the potential, we are on the bleeding edge of DAO technology and techniques. This is much more than just a process."
#EdenOnEOS :
--M1-- : "Establish a purpose and have people vote in line with what the objective is. I agree if someone feels that a Delegates project is in-line with the over-all objective, and values that in his group more than the consensus builder who can't get the guy with the project to back down, I don't see how you can control for this. Other than stating somewhere that elections are "to select for consensus builders able to establish consensus amongst their peers and provide the most value to their organization (in our case EOS).""
--M2-- : "I'm fully in agreement that this Eden org needs more direction and clarity as to our purpose through clear objectives and measurable KPI."
--M3-- : "I think the objective that we should aim to achieve is simply to help Eden. It doesn’t really matter if someone is building a project or just aiming to lead Eden. The only voting criteria should be how much each person helps Eden. The Eden process takes care of the rest by enabling each community member to express their opinions about who or what is most helpful for Eden."
--M4-- : "I wholeheartedly disagree with the faith in actors I generally feel here. We're not building Eden for Us(EOS). We're building it for everyone. If we can't reach consensus on what is True North, all other consensus is worthless."
--M3-- : "Why would it matter whether someone is building a project or just leading? I don’t see any reason to make a distinction about leaders or projects in the bylaws. People can help however they want and voters decide what’s most helpful."
--M5-- : "This group was founded by a bunch of key people in the EOS community, and then it was funded by the Block Producers, many of which are counted among Eden's members. They did this with the knowledge that Eden members had already spoken about working towards improving Delegated Proof of Stake - of working to build a human element that could help enhance the cold logic of DPoS consensus. This network is on the cusp of spectacular success, and I am confident that it will handle it well, because it has already proven how well it can handle failure and disappointment. If there is a crisis that Eden can address though, it is getting this decentralized organization ready to actually matter to people when EOS starts to really take off."

#EdenOnEOS : (https://t.me/EdenOSinfo offered to Eden CDs)
"Yo I’m not paying attention much, so any of the CDs who want total ownership control of the EdenOnEOS channel just give me a shout and I’ll change the ownership to whomever you want it changed to."

##Chief_Delegates-meet :
In lieu of recording (yet) from CD meeting #7 (planned for end last week) I here link to where previous meetings are found. Well worth another look at to remind where we are and aim toward, when and if time allow - https://odysee.com/@EdenonEOS:f

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#Recap Eden Member group, 7 days Sunday-Saturday 2022-06-11

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#Author_Comments : The recap this time with two Chief Delegate meetings - #8 on June 2 and #9 on June 9.
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#Chinese_Eden :
--M1-- : "Welcome to follow Chinese Eden, we have a separate Discord and Medium, and all proposals and election process will be posted in the EOS Community Forum. Due to limited manpower at this time, it is difficult for us to keep the English version up to date, so if anyone in the community would like to help us with translation, we would appreciate it!
Discord: https://discord.gg/fy2JYdpR
Medium: https://medium.com/@edencn
Information on past first test election and on upcoming second test election: https://forums.eoscommunity.org/c/eos/eoscn/35
Notion: https://edencn.notion.site/edencn/EDEN-827f60bd124b4d2ead39619444edf07d"
--M2-- : "Sure thing...
I'd love to invite you or any representative of it to the EOS Translation Foundation Telegram group.We want to address all this language barriers and solve them for easier interaction."
--M1-- : "We also have a DAO called EDAO, which we improved Daniel's fractally and used it to provide more support services for elected projects. Everyone in the community can get involved, do the work needed for the project, and report back at the weekly meetings for rewards."
--M2-- : "Come around. We'll be happy to help. https://t.me/EOSTranslationFoundation"

#EdenOnEOS_Benefits :
"Welcome to Eden members private group 🎉 https://help.eossupport.io/en/articles/5889843-what-are-the-benefits-of-becoming-an-eden-member"

#Fractally_related : (& Eden connected) :
"" "Don't Give Fractally the Time of Day"
This is an extreme and antagonistic statement of how we should proceed.
But I do think, we should focus on building Eden. If we want to adopt aspects of Fractally, why not. But not Fractally. In general, at the current date and time, with the information at hand, my perspective has not changed. I would not vote to "become a Fractal" of Fractally. I encourage greater focus and development of Eden, and EdenOnEOS. I don't want to draw this conversation out more than it needs to given this is Eden, and Fractally is nowhere near a state where we could evaluate its adoption.""

#Accountability :
--M1-- : "Eden members who wish to be vocal and report their CDs on not fulfilling promises should feel encouraged to do so, and ofc address the matter politely and with the respect any person deserves, as well presenting the proof of the claims."
--M2-- : "It is my understanding, that the people who elected the delegates are responsible for holding them accountable. In an ideal system, voters could have the opportunity to rate their delegates or at least make a statement as to whether they have kept their word on what they promised."
--M3-- : "Ideally what would be of use is a place where public comments/questions/concerns can be posted about each Eden Delegate. There the Delegate could publicly respond to defend themselves, or even just to explain their thinking for deviating from a promise or something."

#Chief_Delegates-meet :
"EdenOnEOS Chief Delegate Meeting #8 - Thursday, June 1, 2022 - https://odysee.com/@EdenonEOS:f/Chief-Delegate-Meeting-8:8
"Notes from the CD meeting #8: https://bywire.news/articles/eos-chief-delegates-meeting-8"

"EdenOnEOS Chief Delegate Meeting #9 - Thursday, June 9, 2022 - https://odysee.com/@EdenonEOS:f/Eden-CD-Meeting-Week-9:5
"Notes from CD meeting #9: https://bywire.news/articles/eos-chief-delegates-meeting-9

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Eden Members #recap for past week posted tomorrow Monday 20th of June around 12:00 UTC.
#Recaps_UpScale
Eden Members #recap for past week posted tomorrow Monday 20th of June around 12:00 UTC.
Apologies, #recap further postponed. Up by or before 18:00 UTC today Monday.
#Recap Eden Member group, 7 days Sunday-Saturday 2022-06-18

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#Author_Comments : Most discussions over past week centered around CD's "Declaration of the Transfer of Control and Assets to the Members of ‘Eden on EOS’" - https://bywire.news/articles/declaration-of-the-transfer-of-control-and-assets-to-the-members-of-eden-on-eos and Dan Larimer follow up post "Implications of Eden’s Declaration of Independence" https://t.me/EdenOSinfo/38054 with much discussion also in the EdenOnEOS group.
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#Eden_Assets? :
--M1-- : [2022-06-12 20:35 UTC] - "Below is a link to an official communication from the Eden Chief Delegates. It would be great if we can come together and make something happen regarding this Declaration and the Independence of Eden on EOS this Wednesday, June 15, at 13:00 UTC!"
https://bywire.news/articles/declaration-of-the-transfer-of-control-and-assets-to-the-members-of-eden-on-eos
--M2-- : "The "big ask" is not just for the keys, but also, there is a second big ask... "All IP rights, too" Aren't those two separate issues of the contributions of community members?"
--M1-- : "The IP is not required to progress, although it would be nice to collect it within the control of the CDs. Once the CDs have this, I'm of the opinion that they appoint leaders to the respective Eden Member Services circles and within there custody of the respective bits of IP lie."
--CD1-- : "The CDs are putting the pieces in place to establish Eden Member Services, on top of (obviously) changing the smart contract and website and other stuff."
--M3-- : [In reply to Daniel Larimer post on "Implications . . "] "Thank you for voicing your position on the matter. Highly agree on your points regarding what needs to be done in reference to taking over the socials, domains, etc. and the parties wanting to do so putting up collateral. I also agree that we should be careful with legal ramifications ... appreciate you shining a light on the possible pitfalls."
--M1-- : "There is no intention, from what I've seen, by the CDs to have Eden own property. They are just trying to consolidate it under the stewardship of its elected leaders. From there I expect they'll hand it out to willing Eden Member's to control and accept temporary ownership. And hopefully use Dan's collateral suggestion by those who assume control."

#Eden_elections : [13/06/2022 22:51 UTC]
--M1-- : "The chief delegates have permission that can do everything they need to do. The transfer of board.major keys happens right after elections."
--M2-- : "Can they update the contract to fix the election date with those permissions?"
--M1-- : "Yes. But the bylaws is locked. Right now. Was supposed to be 30 days before next elections."
--M2-- : "The bylaw says there is an election every 3 months. I understand you think the code is also bylaws. I don't think that makes sense."
--M1-- : "It will when other bad actors take over as CDs."
--M3-- : "The bylaws do not "absorb" a Peace Treaty. The 30 days is a By-Law guideline. The Code contract can be revised. The Peace Treaty governs the By-laws. Does EDEN want a July 9, 2022 Election?"
--M2-- : "This doesn't make sense. The bylaw changes require code changes, the bylaws that have explicit rules are what we should be following."
--M3-- : "EdenOS only understands code. And the code is still running with the old peace treaty. So either we update the code or the next election can not happen on 9th of July"
--M4-- : "Are we saying there is no way to carry out the next elections on July 9th?"
--M3-- : "No. We need to update the code. Then the election will happen."
--CD1-- : "Eden cannot update its own contract at the moment. The Eden members who currently possess the active permissions need to read the new bylaws and change the active permissions."
--M5-- : "The first problem here is that no one updated the election date before the arbitrary 30-day window was defined in the code. It was an oversight."
#MSIG - [14/06/2022 03:48 UTC]
--Dan Larimer-- : ""According to the bylaws, the active keys should be set to the chiefs. I am A-OK with that."
--CD1-- "Do you want the CDs to write the Msig?"
--Yves La Rose-- : "I suggest CDs create an MSIG for the BPs"
--M1-- : "We've already received their (BPs) support. this makes no sense. Uppdating these permissions isn't the bp support we really need. Let this community keep building Eden and get it to the point where its deserving of the support we do need, via funding."
--Dan Larimer-- : "It would be a symbolic gesture for both ENF and Fractally to sign off on it."
--Yves La Rose-- : "Are Eden CDs making the MSIG so it's a three-party action?"
--Daniel Larimer-- : "Yep"
--Yves La Rose-- : "That works for the ENF"
--Daniel Larimer-- : "Then going forward eden active can act unilaterally"
--Yves La Rose-- : "Does it work for Eden?"
--CD1-- : [In reply to Yves La Rose] "It would appear that I am the only one up atm, so I can't speak on behalf of the CDs."
--CD1-- : "We are learning as we go, but going forward all communications like this will have to appear onchain. The CDs have been fully transparent about our concerns about the bylaws, and we went to great lengths to act responsibly in their ratification. We should have presented the active keyholders immediately with the msig for that transfer. The request was restated many times, and it escalated in its earnestness."
--Daniel Larimer-- : "I’m only asking for the steps I feel are necessary to minimize Fractally liability by recognizing our commitment to only use the keys for code maintenance and reinforce our legal stance that this is not our account"
--M2-- : "I think communication is incredibly important and helping others understand the factors motivating our chosen paths in a reputation based system. It will be up to everyone in the community to decide who acted how, and value those actions accordingly.
If at the very least, I'd like to thank Dan for the thought exercise and lessons in what some may view as not the best-case scenario in the transfer of property in a DAO. We should work on means to make this cleaner, as Yves said it should be automated."
--M3-- : " . as someone who has spent most of the last 5 years working with compliance issues surrounding blockchains, DAOs and DeFi, there was never any risk of this organization being considered a general partnership based on transferring keys or because a document was drawn up. If we're really concerned about this issue at all, we simply form one of the Wyoming DAOs and call it a day. wouldn't cost more than a couple thousand dollars to have attorneys ensure everything is in order for us. I spoke with the state of Wyoming several times around the time that eden was forming. So long as we're using the eden consensus protocol to assign funds and elect leaders for temporary assignment periods, there's no partnership here."

#Chief_Delegates-meet :
"EdenOnEOS Chief Delegate Meeting #10 - Thursday, 16 June 2022 : https://odysee.com/@EdenonEOS:f/Chief-Delegate-Meeting-10:5

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#Recaps_UpScale pinned «These recaps posted late Sunday UTC and cover preceding 7 days. --M-- = Member comments, if number added refer to different members by the same. --CD-- = similar to "M" referring to a current Chief Delegate. *Any “author comments” in #Recaps will look…»
#Recap Eden Member group, 7 days Sunday-Saturday 2022-06-25

#Trust_EVM : The Fastest EVM In The Industry :
"The recent Twitter Space by Trust EVM shed some light as to how it will achieve the feat of being the fastest EVM in the industry. This was an open discussion by members of the project who also answered questions from the community about its technicalities and operations after launch.
Matias Romeo, who’s the technical leader of the EVM+ working group went into details on the progress that’s been made so far, leading up to the scheduled launch in September 2022. The following are some of the more important talking points from the event on Thursday, June 16." https://www.eosgo.io/news/trust-evm-fastest-evm-in-the-industry

#Eden_Services : (DEADLINE PASSED already!)
"Attention Eden Members: Request for Proposals for Vote.Eden Lead. Previous election experience highly valued! DEADLINE FOR PROPOSALS Saturday, June 25th at 23:00 UTC
https://t.me/EdenOSinfo/39308 [ File : Posting for vote.eden Lead.pdf ]"

#Eden_Members_Services : [2022-06-22]
"As the ideas around the Eden Member Services continue circulate I put together this visual view of what this might entail. Hopefully this can spark a conversation about not only the merit of such a proposal but also how it could be improved upon if there indeed is merit."
https://miro.com/app/board/uXjVOu5T1hI=/?share_link_id=905951444068

#MSIG : [2022-06-22 03:15 UTC]
--CD-- : "Proposed MSIG for the transfer of active permissions from previous holders to current Eden CDs." https://bloks.io/msig/costaricamae/setedenkeys1
--M1-- : "72 hour timer started"
--CD-- : [2022-06-25 13:40 UTC] : "MSIG proposal for the transfer of eden name keys." https://bloks.io/msig/costaricamae/edennamekeys

#Eden_Spark :
➡️Weekly call in Eden - Spark, any member of the hispanic community (or not) is welcome.
➡️The link to the meeting could be found in the TG group. Thanks!"
https://t.me/eos_espanol

#Bylaws :
--CD1-- : [2022-06-23 11:23 UTC] "Just to bring everyone up to speed somewhat. The Chief Delegates have very carefully been working through a bunch of ideas regarding bylaws, and this is what we currently have on the go: One replacement of an existing bylaw to change language, and two new bylaws. . . "
--M1-- : "In which instances would CDs create .eden accounts? Administrative purposes, personal purposes or something else?"
--CD1-- : [In reply to above] "Eden projects with their own budgets and project leads. This could form the (accounting) basis of those circles we have been creating. Once a contract is written and it works, the ENF may choose to fund it, as they have funded Eden with the original 250k+ seeding. Before that point, the ENF may choose to fund a legal entity acting on behalf of that circle. Or anyone else could. By 'Eden Projects' I mean projects that Eden will throw its name behind because the projects align with Eden's objects and goals."
--CD1-- : [2022-06-23 22:01 UTC "Does anyone have any feedback regarding the potential proposed bylaw updates?"
--M2-- : "(C) I find the proposed change problematic . . "
--M3-- : "In my opinion we need to develop dispute resolution for Eden."
--CD1-- : "The proposed change clears up language that is completely pointless in a set of bylaws. Would it be better to simply delete it? The dispute mechanism, if it is something that Eden wants, can be built based upon this principle. For full context: . . "
--CD1-- : "If the bylaw upgrades have taught us anything, it is that they must be approached methodically, especially since they have to be approved as a complete document. That needs to change, imo, but I don't feel that we can take that on this time around."
--CD2-- : "Chief Delegates #2 have proposed the official @EdenOnEOS Bylaw amendments!
Chief Delegates met today [2022-06-25] to decide upon, & officially propose, the Bylaw changes they wish to see ratified by the next generation of Delegates, who will be elected on July 9 2022"
#Eden_Members_Services : [2022-06-25]
--CD-- : The Eden Members Service, known henceforth as the EMS, shall serve at the pleasure of the Eden Delegates and Chief Delegates. The purpose of the EMS will be to provide limited centralised operations in the form of ‘Circles’, which can facilitate the procurement of both products and services deemed necessary by Delegates and Chief Delegates in aid of their pursuit of the Eden mission statement, and in accordance with their compliance to both the Bylaws and Peace Treaty only. Circles will be formed in response to Requests for Proposals (RFPs) made by Chief Delegates. . . " https://bywire.news/articles/eden-member-service-proposal

#Eden_elections : https://t.me/EdenOSinfo/39307
--CD-- : "Next generation of Delegates will be elected on July 9 2022"

#Eden_Town_Hall :
" Eden Town Hall on the Eden Discord every Sunday at the top of the hour 16:00 UTC :
https://discord.com/events/916846690626052146/989247459635114064 "

#Chief_Delegates-meet : " EdenOnEOS Chief Delegate Meeting #11 - Saturday, June 25, 2022 :
https://odysee.com/@EdenonEOS:f/CD-Meeting-Week-11-:d "

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#Recap Eden Member group, 7 days Sunday-Saturday 2022-07-02
(Part 1 of 3)
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#Author_Comments : The Eden name, with or without sequential term numbering, much discussed this week. So was also the aim for Eden with reference to the vision and words from early on. To top things of the legal side of DAOs and the Vitalik twitter much commented, so also by Dan Larimer. A reminder - Day/time after #hashtags refer to original posts day/time in UTC.
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#Bylaws : [2022-06-26 02:23 UTC] - "The Eden2 Chief Delegates' proposals for bylaw updates." - https://eoscommunity.notion.site/Proposed-new-bylaws-d951d664a2444c9da7f4dabea893f737 :
--M1-- : "Every time I refer to the second term delegates I'm a bit peeved that we don't have a better way to distinguish between administrations."
--CD1-- : "I'm ok with naming the terms sequentially... Eden1, Eden2, Eden3. In terms of China, it works as ch.eden1".
--M1-- : "Right. Why I said CDs2... CDs certainly aren't Eden."
--CD1-- : "But everything done by the CDs is representative of the entire organization. I think it's fine to refer to these CDs as 'The Eden2 CDs'."
--M1-- : "I disagree on both parts."
--CD1-- : "I have to take and defend the position that delegates represent the organization."
-- M2-- : "Eden is about something more and that's something more I think is leadership."
--M1-- : "Governance yes, leadership not fully. We are independent minds here - a community, not a unit. The primary thing CDs have authority over is money... . . "
--M3-- : "Could someone explain the need to differentiate between the first group of CDs and the 2nd?"
--CD1-- : "We're referencing individual Eden members. We elect individuals. The elected delegates shape the outcome of that term, which can be broadly referred to sequentially, like a series of years."
--M4-- : "I think it is fair to name all Edens by the major language."
--CD1-- : "Yes, for now. But we want this to grow beyond languages. Real-time translations during election conversations. Accurate, unbiased reviews of members' past performance, accessible to everyone in every language."
--M4-- : "EdenCN is using Chinese (cn.eden), Eden Korea is using Korean (kr.eden), and this community using English (en.eden)."
--CD1-- : "Yeah, that makes sense. Something to propose and run on next election!"

#EdenCN : [2022-06-26 22:45 UTC] :
--M1-- : "As the chair of EdenCN's second trial election, I would like to share my views. . . "
--M2-- : "Much love towards EdenCN. You're doing great work."
--M1-- : "More information can be found here (of course most of it has not been translated into English yet, we are looking for someone to translate it)."
--CD1-- : "Great update, thanks for this."
--M3-- : "Great see EdenCN forging ahead with focus on the "doing"."

#Eden_Summit? : [2022-06-27 01:13 UTC] :
"It would be great if we could bring together TVLs from all communities. But before that, I think it is more important to have more communication and discussion between different Eden communities on the development ideas and directions. When Summit?"

#Trust_EVM : [2022-06-28 02:25 UTC] :
--M1-- : "Anyone aware of projects interested in EOS EVM? Particularly those on ETH looking at the potential of EOS? Or is the Trust Network still rolling out rather quietly?"
--ENF-- : [2022-06-28 14:25 UTC] "Your best strategy for finding little nuggets ahead of their formal announcements would be to keep an eye on the Jungle 4 testnet to see what contracts are being deployed. This is always the case whether it be EOS or Trust EVM dApps. Links below: "
https://trustscan.one/ - https://jungle4.eosq.eosnation.io/
(Part 2 of 3)

#Chief_Delegates-meeting #11: [2022-06-28 04:02 UTC] :
"Notes & video link - https://bywire.news/articles/eos-chief-delegates-meeting-11 - Topics covered: ▶️ New bylaws were proposed for Eden ▶️ Eden's Mission Statement was improved
▶️ Eden account permissions nearly transferred ▶️ Should Eden use @HyphaDAO tooling
--M1-- : "This piece from your document is something I hope might eventuate into action and a way to improve Eden way of getting things done! ""Hypha DAO as a tool for Eden: . . "
--M2-- : "Brock nailed it really. If Eden chose to adopt Hypha it would save us a year of development work. All we'd need to do is simply add the political playoff consensus mechanism to Hypha."
--M3-- : "I feel like we've been saying this for a year now. 😅 But yeah."

#MSIG : [2022-06-28 14:05 UTC] :
"The Chief Delegates now have owner & active permissions for the .eden account, set to a threshold of 4/5." - https://bloks.io/msig/costaricamae/edenownkeys2

#Eden_future : [2022-06-28 14:10 UTC] :
--M1-- : "Hypha DAO is a tool for organizations to support similar structures. Eden is a process to distribute money with fractal democracy. That's my opinion."
--CD1-- : "It was always about more than just distributing the network's resources."
--M1-- : "I agree to disagree. In my understanding, it has always been about distributing inflation to the community through the fractal democratic process."
--CD1-- : "I am convinced that most Eden members want to see the process shared among more communities and organizations. And it makes sense that Eden as an Organization take on that role."
--M1-- : "When I read through everything again, I found the vision to be quite complete. EdenOS, on the other hand, was never completed. We have an incomplete EdenOS (software).

#Dan_Larimer : [2022-06-28 20:28 UTC] :
""With many lawsuits against specific #DAOs today, "...one can accidentally form a partnership just by the manner in which you conduct business. Even without any written or oral agreements...".
- What is the Legal Standing of a DAO? - An in-depth analysis of how governments may classify unincorporated associations of people interacting with a DAO and the resulting risks and liabilities to the various parties."" - https://twitter.com/gofractally/status/1541878347537457152
--M1-- : "Super... Dan... tough but necessary tackle/lead... I'm also thinking its time for the crypto-legal debate to hit talk shows / news desks."
--M2-- : "Thank you for this Dan. I know how much work was put into this and it's by far the best existing reference on the subject I've come across and I've been reading and researching these issues for 5 years now. You make so many clear points, but it's such a complex subject in many ways, that it, opens a ton of new questions!!! hahaha"

#Vitalik_tweet : [2022-06-28 22:11 UTC] :
--M1-- : "Have you checked out Vitalik's co-authored paper on "Souls" and how they see them as a reputation system and more?"
--Dan Larimer-- : "link?"
--M1-- : "Decentralized Society: Finding Web3's Soul" - https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4105763 ""Oh and I must ask you @bytemaster7 was that tweet about EOS being the the superior smart contract platform in the space from Vitalik genuine?""
--Dan Larimer-- : "I have no idea if it was genuine, . . "

#Fractal_Democracy : [2022-06-30 26:47 UTC] :
"Has anyone written a more comprehensive introduction to Fractal Democracy than @James_Marts article on Medium? I find that this is still the best place to send people for an overall view of what's being contemplated. Am I missing something else?" - https://james-mart.medium.com/fractal-democracy-a-primer-c5b1726e8c3a
(Part 3 of 3)

#Eden_Elections : [2022-06-30 20:55 UTC] :
--CD1-- : "All Eden members need to step it up and get the word out. The new signup date will be functional very soon, and we at least need to wake up the Eden members who haven't participated in the other elections.""
--M1-- : "Why does the Eden election page STILL read October 8th with an initial time set for July 9?"
--CD2-- : "The UI will reflect the July 9th Election Day once the CDs have reviewed and approved the MSIG modifying the smart contract. Teams are currently testing the modifications thoroughly."

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