Lennie, [21/05/2022 17:13]
#Eden_Proxy :
--M1--: "Quick question: if we have 181,815 EOS in the Eden Treasury, why is it the Eden Proxies only have 66,000 votes? Before discussing the ENF voting with their tokens, shouldn't this be taken care of first?"
--M2-- "Eden Treasury doesn’t vote for Eden Proxy"
--M1--: "Shouldn't it?"
--M2--: "It was suggested in the CD meeting. To send a signal"
--M1--: "Hard to discuss whether the ENF should or could do anything in regards to voting if we haven't done it ourselves".
--CD1--: "Eden's elected leadership don't have the active keys for the genesis.eden account yet."
--M1--: "I'm for making bold moves in both the governance and finances of the network. We all know what needs to be done, the question is whether or not we have the power and will to do it. I applaud Yves for having taken the initiative in both and working within the confines of the system as is, and blazing a trail forward where no one new how."
--CD1--: "Maybe many of the paid BPs look around and see the ones doing nothing and want to change things, but they can't. They would be waiting for an organization like EDEN to come along, demonstrate that it understands what is happening, and maybe those BPs would be amenable to giving this organization some voting weight to attempt to address the problem."
#EdenOnEOS :
--CD1--: "The transparency projects that many have been speaking of and hoping for, and building piecemeal - those projects can become a core mission of Eden. Chain Transparency. If Eden wanted to, it could replicate our process, and any other cool apps that we're going to be creating and bundle them into a dapp that others can use. At the moment though, others can't just use Eden without a great deal of wasted energy."
--M1--: "So genesis eden might have to polish edenOS for the best of what genesis eden wants to do."
--CD1--: "Sure, get the contracts and interfaces built so that others can use them."
--M1--: "this brings up the point that the most important thing is "the eden process." The edenOS code can be rewritten but the concept of electing people to distribute funds, or build a community throught consensus is the "gem" perhaps??"
--CD1--: "Yeah, finding that 'gem' has been difficult. I think it's the political playoffs process itself. It seems to work, but only when there is a sufficiently large/diverse group of people playing the game."
#Sybil :
--M1--: "Annual dues and intro meetings are both imperfect sybil resistance, not sybil proof. The election is theoretically sybil proof, although I look forward to analyzing an attempted attack at some point. But it's also not a big deal to allow sybil attacks if there are no positive rights given to the community at large, and all benefits are a function of one's participation in elections."
--M2--: "Maybe at some point Eden should run a test election where it provides a bounty for white-hat sybil attackers who reveal shortcomings and suggest solutions. We are in the era of deep fakes now."
--M3--: "the bounties often stimulate putting fakes in (they again incentivise attackers to collect them, because price of putting them there and pointing to them is far smaller than researching where the real attackers at."
--M4--: "Then we may just need some sort of system that rewards or tracks reputation. Where when someone is caught doing something shady, they have something to lose."
#Chief_Delegates-meet : 1
"Apologies for the delay, Here's the meeting notes from the most recent CD meeting: https://bywire.news/articles/eos-chief-delegates-meeting-5"
#Chief_Delegates-meet : 2
"EdenOnEOS Chief Delegate Meeting #6 - Thursday, May 20, 2022 - https://odysee.com/@EdenonEOS:f/Chief-Delegate-Meeting-6:4 "
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#Eden_Proxy :
--M1--: "Quick question: if we have 181,815 EOS in the Eden Treasury, why is it the Eden Proxies only have 66,000 votes? Before discussing the ENF voting with their tokens, shouldn't this be taken care of first?"
--M2-- "Eden Treasury doesn’t vote for Eden Proxy"
--M1--: "Shouldn't it?"
--M2--: "It was suggested in the CD meeting. To send a signal"
--M1--: "Hard to discuss whether the ENF should or could do anything in regards to voting if we haven't done it ourselves".
--CD1--: "Eden's elected leadership don't have the active keys for the genesis.eden account yet."
--M1--: "I'm for making bold moves in both the governance and finances of the network. We all know what needs to be done, the question is whether or not we have the power and will to do it. I applaud Yves for having taken the initiative in both and working within the confines of the system as is, and blazing a trail forward where no one new how."
--CD1--: "Maybe many of the paid BPs look around and see the ones doing nothing and want to change things, but they can't. They would be waiting for an organization like EDEN to come along, demonstrate that it understands what is happening, and maybe those BPs would be amenable to giving this organization some voting weight to attempt to address the problem."
#EdenOnEOS :
--CD1--: "The transparency projects that many have been speaking of and hoping for, and building piecemeal - those projects can become a core mission of Eden. Chain Transparency. If Eden wanted to, it could replicate our process, and any other cool apps that we're going to be creating and bundle them into a dapp that others can use. At the moment though, others can't just use Eden without a great deal of wasted energy."
--M1--: "So genesis eden might have to polish edenOS for the best of what genesis eden wants to do."
--CD1--: "Sure, get the contracts and interfaces built so that others can use them."
--M1--: "this brings up the point that the most important thing is "the eden process." The edenOS code can be rewritten but the concept of electing people to distribute funds, or build a community throught consensus is the "gem" perhaps??"
--CD1--: "Yeah, finding that 'gem' has been difficult. I think it's the political playoffs process itself. It seems to work, but only when there is a sufficiently large/diverse group of people playing the game."
#Sybil :
--M1--: "Annual dues and intro meetings are both imperfect sybil resistance, not sybil proof. The election is theoretically sybil proof, although I look forward to analyzing an attempted attack at some point. But it's also not a big deal to allow sybil attacks if there are no positive rights given to the community at large, and all benefits are a function of one's participation in elections."
--M2--: "Maybe at some point Eden should run a test election where it provides a bounty for white-hat sybil attackers who reveal shortcomings and suggest solutions. We are in the era of deep fakes now."
--M3--: "the bounties often stimulate putting fakes in (they again incentivise attackers to collect them, because price of putting them there and pointing to them is far smaller than researching where the real attackers at."
--M4--: "Then we may just need some sort of system that rewards or tracks reputation. Where when someone is caught doing something shady, they have something to lose."
#Chief_Delegates-meet : 1
"Apologies for the delay, Here's the meeting notes from the most recent CD meeting: https://bywire.news/articles/eos-chief-delegates-meeting-5"
#Chief_Delegates-meet : 2
"EdenOnEOS Chief Delegate Meeting #6 - Thursday, May 20, 2022 - https://odysee.com/@EdenonEOS:f/Chief-Delegate-Meeting-6:4 "
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#Recap Eden Member group (WK35) posted Sunday 2022-09-04
#ENF_interview : https://t.me/c/1186628781/35132 : “Strong interview by BigBeardSamurai, good one to take in when time allow!” - https://youtu.be/FCOyKlSBkKg - “” Huobi X-Change invited Yves La Rose, EOS Network Foundation CEO, who share the topic titled “The New EOS – 1 Year Anniversary of the EOS Network Foundation” “”
#Eden_Hypha : https://t.me/c/1186628781/35136 : “Here is the recording link to the call yesterday with Joachim from Hypha. . “ - “” This Hypha DAO instance doesn't have a USD treasury, so picking 100% option for deferred for now.””
#Eden_Hypha : https://t.me/c/1186628781/35133 : “If you're looking to join the Eden community on Hypha, this link should get you going. Once you've signed up please let me know here or PM so I can approve it, then full access: . . “
#Eden_Fractal meeting #13 : https://t.me/c/1186628781/35153 : 31 Aug 2022 : https://youtu.be/eQHP3BHo04Y : “ Come participate by joining the Eden Discord Server https://discord.gg/cnhQWk7rXm “
#Eden_Fractal : https://t.me/c/1186628781/35160 : “NovaCrypto LTD interview Dan Singjoy of Eden ƒractal - “Empowering Eden Contributors”. Part of EOSIO Swiss Workshop 15 - August 23rd, 2022” - https://youtu.be/dFLPEADj65w all timestamped”
#Eden_Proxy : https://t.me/c/1186628781/35163 : “The Eden on #EOS Proxy has just been updated...real humans providing real rankings.” - https://twitter.com/EOS_EdenProxy/status/1566061285506252801
#Chief_Delegates_meet : “EdenOnEOS Chief Delegate Meeting #8 – September 4th, 2022 - https://odysee.com/@EdenonEOS:f/Eden-on-EOS-Chief-Delegate-Meeting-8-:4
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#ENF_interview : https://t.me/c/1186628781/35132 : “Strong interview by BigBeardSamurai, good one to take in when time allow!” - https://youtu.be/FCOyKlSBkKg - “” Huobi X-Change invited Yves La Rose, EOS Network Foundation CEO, who share the topic titled “The New EOS – 1 Year Anniversary of the EOS Network Foundation” “”
#Eden_Hypha : https://t.me/c/1186628781/35136 : “Here is the recording link to the call yesterday with Joachim from Hypha. . “ - “” This Hypha DAO instance doesn't have a USD treasury, so picking 100% option for deferred for now.””
#Eden_Hypha : https://t.me/c/1186628781/35133 : “If you're looking to join the Eden community on Hypha, this link should get you going. Once you've signed up please let me know here or PM so I can approve it, then full access: . . “
#Eden_Fractal meeting #13 : https://t.me/c/1186628781/35153 : 31 Aug 2022 : https://youtu.be/eQHP3BHo04Y : “ Come participate by joining the Eden Discord Server https://discord.gg/cnhQWk7rXm “
#Eden_Fractal : https://t.me/c/1186628781/35160 : “NovaCrypto LTD interview Dan Singjoy of Eden ƒractal - “Empowering Eden Contributors”. Part of EOSIO Swiss Workshop 15 - August 23rd, 2022” - https://youtu.be/dFLPEADj65w all timestamped”
#Eden_Proxy : https://t.me/c/1186628781/35163 : “The Eden on #EOS Proxy has just been updated...real humans providing real rankings.” - https://twitter.com/EOS_EdenProxy/status/1566061285506252801
#Chief_Delegates_meet : “EdenOnEOS Chief Delegate Meeting #8 – September 4th, 2022 - https://odysee.com/@EdenonEOS:f/Eden-on-EOS-Chief-Delegate-Meeting-8-:4
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