Wednesday to Sunday 2021-10-24

#EdenOnEOS :
Rules (Peace Treaty & Bylaws) for new Edens, already forming or on planning stage, was a discussion point. Some of the initial words copied below:

- "In my opinion -- without bylaws written in code, any community that forks the edenOS would not have bylaws to build on. Ideally each community that is created should have its own domain, server and developers. But the new community should have the same coded bylaws that the genesis community agrees with initially. What do you think?"
- "I think each Eden has to start with its own peace treaty. It might be different from group to group, or it might be the exact same."
- "I think the Peace treaty is what is necessary to start an Eden community, where bylaws come later and will likely be somewhat unique to each respective group since they will absorb unique cultural influences."
- "A peace treaty has to be the same (it is what allows for consensus building). There have to be fundamental bylaws that govern all Eden communities across the globe. Each Eden community could enact some bylaws and build on the fundamental ones. The genesis Eden community cannot acknowledge an Eden community that doesn't have a peace treaty to empower its members or create a society that does not believe in consensus building and individual freedoms."

#Fractal_Democracy :
The article "Fractal Democracy: A Primer" by an Eden member was shared and received praise by many. Here just one example: "Summaries like yours makes it much easier to propagate key concepts like Fractal democracy in other languages and we thank you for taking the time to do it."

Author added "I tried to distill FD down into the key concepts. Hopefully this can make it easier to share with your friends and family what you're up to."
https://james-mart.medium.com/fractal-democracy-a-primer-c5b1726e8c3a#6118

#Discord_EOS :
You might have noticed words about #EOS Community Discord Server, a new home for everyone interested in all things $EOS.
https://discord.gg/eos-network

#Block_One :
There was a rich discussion over the weekend regarding current status and future path of B1 and also B1 plans in relation to EOSIO. In short discussion mirrored much of what been seen other places. One view expressed it might be time for another party such as #ENF to consider take over care of future EOSIO maintenance and code work.

= END =

Wednesday to Sunday 2021-11-07

#Violet_Garden :
The reward structure in Violet Garden and VIO token utilities were discussed and clarified.

#Block_One :
Discussions around Block One continue along similar lines as earlier, now an added reflection also on potential impact the launch of Bullish might have on things.

#EOSIO_future :
Snippets from discussion starting with Eden member expressing his concern. In end technical back and forth aiming to alleviate and resolve current issues experienced.
- ""I've invested countless of hours building my company around eosio and now updates are a joke and we clearly see block one moving away from it and being an holding company. We are now a startup of 5m + in revenues and 25 people in the team. Our products has been built on eosio since 2018. But I don't think its gonna work moving forward with eosio if core maintainers of the software don't care and we just see more and more people and talent getting away from it.""
- - ""what would you like to see done ?""
- ""Improvement regarding scalability, current history tools are unstable, history nodes keep getting corrupted in the latest version, multi-chain capabilities that were promised etc.""
- - ""I can't speak towards all scalability and multi-chain capabilities, but not all history nodes are unscalable and often corrupted. The solution we've been building out for the past few years has proven very scalable and the next generation of it we're working on now has been making significant progress. There's hope at least on that front - just not from B1.""
- - ""Can I add you to a list of EOSIO developers to interview in the not too distant futures about the struggles you have faced? At this point I'm compiling a list - your name isn't on that list yet, so I figured I'd ask (same goes to anyone here if you want to contribute).
- ""Yes, that would be really appreciated. I have 3 years of experience with it and a running company on it.""
- - ""Don't walk away from all of your work with EOSIO yet. There are teams working on this now with support from the ENF.""
- ""I want my business to be part of a bigger EOSIO ecosystem, I need my own chain for cost and I'm looking forward to this day.""

#Pomelo :
Word from Pomelo ""Pomelo hasn't officially launched yet, but we already have our first 3 submissions.""

#ENF :
EOS Network Foundation - ""The recording from the invite only virtual EOS event for press outlets and key opinion leaders within the Chinese community has been published 👇
https://twitter.com/EverythingEOSio/status/1457054172591820810?s=20
Full Speech
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01Xx5jfTEOM ""

#Fractal_Democracy :
Suggestion build/prepare for future - ""Hi everyone, just throwing this out there so others can start thinking about it besides myself.
A fractal democracy has soft guarantees of uniqueness and proof of humanity baked into the onboarding process. But if we want to leverage this onboarding process as a mechanism to achieve Sybil resistance for dapps, then we will need a strategy to deal with many different fractal democracies.
For example, Violet Garden can rely on Eden membership as a way to ensure only one account per person can claim the daily reward, but in a future with tens or hundreds of exclusive or partially overlapping fractal democracy communities, how would it work?
There may be some design decisions we could make now to impact how new fractal democracies are spun up, which would help us solve this problem from the start.""

No doubt we will see more words on the above from Clarion team and others.

Monday to Friday 2021-11-12

#Fractal_Democracy :
Discussion continued on future fractal democracies. Here part of two of this week's comments, first from Clarion team then member comment:
CLARION - ""The short of it is that 1) we are planning for a supra-communities structure and 2) the identity mechanisms we've built / are building rely on simultaneous video for uniqueness, *and* there isn't any other form of uniqueness that can be reliably established (always open to suggestions, but I don't see how iti would work).
KYC "works" because those processes verify you against (shared) 3rd party verifiers. But even Proof of Life mechanisms out there, while they can establish the real-worldness of a digital identity, they do nothing to prove that that same real person isn't establishing themselves as a real live person on some other platform (identified by a different digital ID). In other words, proving uniqueness globally isn't what we're proving; we're proving uniqueness only within a community.""

Member - ""Social verification is my favored option. There needs to be trust values baked into the system that verify the verifiers. It's easy to have collusion of verifiers when you have a limited set, so having one highly trusted rep in there is key for each group.
You can also map out a network of who verified who into the system for a visual representation. This would make it easier to check for collusion.
I think Eden is doing a pretty good job, and I am considering Eden members to use as our first members of the Web 4 global collaboration system I'll be unveiling in the near future.""

#Pomelo :
Much of posts this week were about Pomelo and the great number of Eden members actively supporting the same and listed projects. Here just few of these words indicating the wide range of views and suggestions.
- ""Sharing because I think objective feedback is critical to eden/EOS success moving forward. IMO pomelo, ENF, helio are the right solution. Instead of trying to pump price we are pumping use-cases into the network.""
- ""Let's please consider supporting our Chief Delegates as well as other Eden Delegates and fellow Eden Members with Projects on Pomelo!""
- ""Is there any consensus on a process on using Eden delegate funds in pomelo to maximize the funds?""
- ""a few ideas have been floated around, but no consensus per se.""

One member shared a twitter post - https://twitter.com/eos_marketing/status/1458792540291932164?s=20

Another member asked @daniel_keyes to kindly remind the value of an Eden Member using their account on Pomelo?
""He said:
For this season the value is purely cosmetic. You get a profile picture.
Pomelo is planning to give Eden Members a 'trust bonus' next season.
Or at least once we have more Edens.
The trust bonus would be a bonus added on top of your donation before the quadratic formula is applied.
Say for example you donate 1 EOS and have a 200% trust bonus, as far as the matching formula is concerned, you donated 2 EOS.
So your donation has a bigger impact on the matching distribution than it would otherwise have.
Pomelo is planning to have a trust bonus for this too: https://pomelo.io/grants/ygc2lp2oe

(Part 2 of 3)

#Chief_Delegates-meeting #11: [2022-06-28 04:02 UTC] :
"Notes & video link - https://bywire.news/articles/eos-chief-delegates-meeting-11 - Topics covered: ▶️ New bylaws were proposed for Eden ▶️ Eden's Mission Statement was improved
▶️ Eden account permissions nearly transferred ▶️ Should Eden use @HyphaDAO tooling
--M1-- : "This piece from your document is something I hope might eventuate into action and a way to improve Eden way of getting things done! ""Hypha DAO as a tool for Eden: . . "
--M2-- : "Brock nailed it really. If Eden chose to adopt Hypha it would save us a year of development work. All we'd need to do is simply add the political playoff consensus mechanism to Hypha."
--M3-- : "I feel like we've been saying this for a year now. 😅 But yeah."

#MSIG : [2022-06-28 14:05 UTC] :
"The Chief Delegates now have owner & active permissions for the .eden account, set to a threshold of 4/5." - https://bloks.io/msig/costaricamae/edenownkeys2

#Eden_future : [2022-06-28 14:10 UTC] :
--M1-- : "Hypha DAO is a tool for organizations to support similar structures. Eden is a process to distribute money with fractal democracy. That's my opinion."
--CD1-- : "It was always about more than just distributing the network's resources."
--M1-- : "I agree to disagree. In my understanding, it has always been about distributing inflation to the community through the fractal democratic process."
--CD1-- : "I am convinced that most Eden members want to see the process shared among more communities and organizations. And it makes sense that Eden as an Organization take on that role."
--M1-- : "When I read through everything again, I found the vision to be quite complete. EdenOS, on the other hand, was never completed. We have an incomplete EdenOS (software).

#Dan_Larimer : [2022-06-28 20:28 UTC] :
""With many lawsuits against specific #DAOs today, "...one can accidentally form a partnership just by the manner in which you conduct business. Even without any written or oral agreements...".
- What is the Legal Standing of a DAO? - An in-depth analysis of how governments may classify unincorporated associations of people interacting with a DAO and the resulting risks and liabilities to the various parties."" - https://twitter.com/gofractally/status/1541878347537457152
--M1-- : "Super... Dan... tough but necessary tackle/lead... I'm also thinking its time for the crypto-legal debate to hit talk shows / news desks."
--M2-- : "Thank you for this Dan. I know how much work was put into this and it's by far the best existing reference on the subject I've come across and I've been reading and researching these issues for 5 years now. You make so many clear points, but it's such a complex subject in many ways, that it, opens a ton of new questions!!! hahaha"

#Vitalik_tweet : [2022-06-28 22:11 UTC] :
--M1-- : "Have you checked out Vitalik's co-authored paper on "Souls" and how they see them as a reputation system and more?"
--Dan Larimer-- : "link?"
--M1-- : "Decentralized Society: Finding Web3's Soul" - https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4105763 ""Oh and I must ask you @bytemaster7 was that tweet about EOS being the the superior smart contract platform in the space from Vitalik genuine?""
--Dan Larimer-- : "I have no idea if it was genuine, . . "

#Fractal_Democracy : [2022-06-30 26:47 UTC] :
"Has anyone written a more comprehensive introduction to Fractal Democracy than @James_Marts article on Medium? I find that this is still the best place to send people for an overall view of what's being contemplated. Am I missing something else?" - https://james-mart.medium.com/fractal-democracy-a-primer-c5b1726e8c3a