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Lennie, [21/05/2022 17:13]
#Eden_Proxy :
--M1--: "Quick question: if we have 181,815 EOS in the Eden Treasury, why is it the Eden Proxies only have 66,000 votes? Before discussing the ENF voting with their tokens, shouldn't this be taken care of first?"
--M2-- "Eden Treasury doesn’t vote for Eden Proxy"
--M1--: "Shouldn't it?"
--M2--: "It was suggested in the CD meeting. To send a signal"
--M1--: "Hard to discuss whether the ENF should or could do anything in regards to voting if we haven't done it ourselves".
--CD1--: "Eden's elected leadership don't have the active keys for the genesis.eden account yet."
--M1--: "I'm for making bold moves in both the governance and finances of the network. We all know what needs to be done, the question is whether or not we have the power and will to do it. I applaud Yves for having taken the initiative in both and working within the confines of the system as is, and blazing a trail forward where no one new how."
--CD1--: "Maybe many of the paid BPs look around and see the ones doing nothing and want to change things, but they can't. They would be waiting for an organization like EDEN to come along, demonstrate that it understands what is happening, and maybe those BPs would be amenable to giving this organization some voting weight to attempt to address the problem."

#EdenOnEOS :
--CD1--: "The transparency projects that many have been speaking of and hoping for, and building piecemeal - those projects can become a core mission of Eden. Chain Transparency. If Eden wanted to, it could replicate our process, and any other cool apps that we're going to be creating and bundle them into a dapp that others can use. At the moment though, others can't just use Eden without a great deal of wasted energy."
--M1--: "So genesis eden might have to polish edenOS for the best of what genesis eden wants to do."
--CD1--: "Sure, get the contracts and interfaces built so that others can use them."
--M1--: "this brings up the point that the most important thing is "the eden process." The edenOS code can be rewritten but the concept of electing people to distribute funds, or build a community throught consensus is the "gem" perhaps??"
--CD1--: "Yeah, finding that 'gem' has been difficult. I think it's the political playoffs process itself. It seems to work, but only when there is a sufficiently large/diverse group of people playing the game."

#Sybil :
--M1--: "Annual dues and intro meetings are both imperfect sybil resistance, not sybil proof. The election is theoretically sybil proof, although I look forward to analyzing an attempted attack at some point. But it's also not a big deal to allow sybil attacks if there are no positive rights given to the community at large, and all benefits are a function of one's participation in elections."
--M2--: "Maybe at some point Eden should run a test election where it provides a bounty for white-hat sybil attackers who reveal shortcomings and suggest solutions. We are in the era of deep fakes now."
--M3--: "the bounties often stimulate putting fakes in (they again incentivise attackers to collect them, because price of putting them there and pointing to them is far smaller than researching where the real attackers at."
--M4--: "Then we may just need some sort of system that rewards or tracks reputation. Where when someone is caught doing something shady, they have something to lose."

#Chief_Delegates-meet : 1
"Apologies for the delay, Here's the meeting notes from the most recent CD meeting: https://bywire.news/articles/eos-chief-delegates-meeting-5"

#Chief_Delegates-meet : 2
"EdenOnEOS Chief Delegate Meeting #6 - Thursday, May 20, 2022 - https://odysee.com/@EdenonEOS:f/Chief-Delegate-Meeting-6:4 "

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#Recap Eden Member group (WK43) - posted Sunday 2022-10-30

* #Author_Comments: Discussions mainly on delegate funds “expiry date” or not, induction process, election process, how protect against sybil attack, use of NFTs for this etc. Details and comments best read in context so here only one sample of suggestions discussed in these areas. *

#Sybil_Protection : https://t.me/c/1186628781/37699 : --M1-- : “My proposed changes to fix/finish the sybil protection (incorporated the latest idea). Treat members as member candidates; Issue people who join the first round of Eden election expirable SBT (1 year). Contract can check, if there is…“
--CD1-- : “Very interesting”
--M2-- : “Community grows on trust. It is very important that we invite the right members.”
--M1-- : “I would say that without the sybil risk removed, Eden for me becomes yet another org instead of a sybil resistant system.”
--M3-- : “It would be helpful to package your proposal into a doc with visual aides.”
--CD2-- : “Whats the difference of challenging via your process versus detecting fraud in the induction process? - https://t.me/c/1186628781/37773
--M4-- : “I like the single election round sybil check approach except it means folks may have to wait up to 6 months to have a voice in the election. Maybe there could be ... “
--CD3-- : “I'm really liking your ideas here. What do you think of this attempted summary in a flow chart? - https://t.me/c/1186628781/37817
--M1-- : https://t.me/c/1186628781/38029 - “tldr; basically we are debating if ⮞ SBTs (soulbound tokens as per vitalik marketing machine, basically non-transferable NFTs), should first … “ – “or would be better ⮞ to provide IBC proof each time, per … “

#POLLSybil Check related : https://t.me/c/1186628781/37944 : Anonymous Poll : “If you needed to go through a sybil checking process to play your favorite game / buy an NFT, how long would you be willing to wait?”

#Chief_Delegates-meeting : Term IV meeting Oct 29, 2022 : https://youtu.be/Mt06DjMvnes

#Eden_Hypha : https://t.me/c/1186628781/37482 :
--CD1-- : “Starting with simple maps based on my understanding of the conversation above.”
--M1-- : “Very helpful image. Some grey areas my head - How … ?”
--CD2-- : “Makes sense. I see it as one of potential many benefits of eden membership - create and participate … .”
--M2-- : “Are we envisioning an additonal layer there? Or five separate groups.” – “”Perhaps this is the role of circles within DAOs and I am needlessly conflating the two.””
--M3-- : “If eden wants to be any sort of platform for other daos, it needs to first focus on sybil resistance and then split from there. I would say all this thinking is way too premature, eden isn't even close to finish its first layer, … .”

#Eden_Circles? : https://t.me/c/1186628781/37627 : --M-- : “Clue me in as to the existence, formal or otherwise, of all Eden circles, or working groups, currently? If you're a part of one, however loosely defined, speak up.”

#Eden_CDs_Twitter : https://t.me/c/1186628781/37670 : --CD-- : “We are using https://twitter.com/Eden_EOS_Chiefs
--M-- : “If we all agreed on a hashtag to use, that would be fine. Imo.”
--CD-- : “I don't think the org necessarily needs its own twitter account. As long as ... ”
--M-- : “Twitter accounts can serve as landing pages directing people back to websites where they can learn more... a hashtag is … .”
--CD-- : “Why create a step in between the landing page?”
--M-- : “Mentions are easy ways to direct attention to related accounts. hashtags are very broad. A direct link to a website is possible in the tweet as well, given enough space, but we still kind of have a website crisis, lol.”
--CD-- : “Yes we need to tighten up the media assets.”

#Eden_Korea : https://t.me/c/1186628781/37394 : ” 📢 Eden Korea 1st internal mainnet test has been successfully finished🎉 Website: https://edenkr.org Test account: https://bloks.io/account/testedenkor2
#Recap Eden Member group (WK44) - posted Sunday 2022-11-06

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#Author_Comments: Protection against sybil attacks continue as main topic, best read in full context in Eden Member group itself Here only few snippets." *

#Eden_Bylaws adopted : https://t.me/c/1186628781/38390 : 2022-11-30 - “The CD ratified our bylaws on Friday's livestreamed meeting. Here are those bylaws: …

#Sybil_Protection : https://t.me/c/1186628781/38394 :
--CD1-- : “Approaching the above discussion from a lens of "what type of culture are we creating here" e.g. "why are people currently attracted, and will continue to attract people to participate here. Current working proposal: Only …
--CD2-- : https://t.me/c/1186628781/38477 : “Here is a flow chart describing the new layout to achieve a sybil protection offering for other projects.”

#Eden_Spark : https://t.me/c/1186628781/38433 : “Our weekly call in Eden - Spark, any member of the hispanic community (or not) is welcome. - Punto de Encuentro de la Comunidad Hispana de la cadena de EOS, La infraestructura más poderosa para aplicaciones descentralizadas para empresas.- https://t.me/eos_espanol

#Eden_Website : https://t.me/c/1186628781/38441 : “Current layout of website im working on as seen in our meeting #4 video. If anyone has any suggestions or changes please DM or @ me.”

#Eden Chief_Delegates-meet #4 : https://youtu.be/HcNe1kXHWW0 : "Streamed live on 4 Nov 2022. Discuss Eden on EOS Governance. To find out more about Eden Up-Vote election process, visit 🌐 https://www.edenelections.com/"

#Eden_Fractal time change? : https://t.me/c/1186628781/38430 : “The Eden community is considering changing the time of weekly meetings. This article includes proposals and reasons to change the time. https://edencreators.com/time

#Eden_Fractal meeting 21 : https://t.me/c/1186628781/38429 : Nov 02, 2022 - “Discussions about agendas, proposal protocols, legal entities, agreements, and new insights from people in the WAX community ... - https://youtu.be/7MQ3arHfj10

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#Recap Eden Member group (WK46) - posted Sunday 2022-11-19

#Sybil_protection plan : https://t.me/c/1186628781/38955 :
--CD1-- : “Here’s progress on the sybil protection plan.” – ““We believe the following is a realistic timeline. Phase 1: S4 (current term) - * Distribute … “”
--M1-- : “Sounds good. I'd encourage you to join the Tuesday NFT Reputation System Circle meeting and discuss since much of this already built out, we're currently working on … “
--CD1-- : “Any objections –M2--?”
--M2-- : “I would skip phase 1 and 2, those changes are not so big that they need … “
--CD1-- : “Had a great call today. Looks like the ability to distribute an NTT upon voting has mostly already been designed and coded . “
--M3-- : “I think it’s wise to always err on the most simple , elegant approach that limits changes to smart contracts that have been working as expected. I think … “
--M2-- : “Dan L. mashed together democratic playoff with sybil check. I think its a sound solution, but that does make first round special in a sense. Alternative solution would be to have a separate round for sybil check, and then later running election rounds, possibly asynchronous. But … “
--M2-- : “Met with my team today and devised how each functionality can be achieved. Its not easy but its also not that hard to do it in a way to minimize changes to the current Eden contract. We are willing to do … “ - https://t.me/c/1186628781/39075

#Eden_Chief_Delegates-meet No.6 - Nov 18, 2022 : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39139 : “The CDs are on live - join and interact - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLqjjThvWMY

Eden_Dispute_Resolution Lead ? : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39079 :
--CD-- : “After first posting this there was a good amount of dialogue as to how we roll out and really test this Dispute Resolution process. Some of that discussion did seem to add a lot of friction to making this happen but … “ – “With that I will ask again, does anyone want to run this process?

#DAO_building : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39047 : “3 Questions That Will Help You Build Better DAO Communities - Addressing the challenges of community management in DAOs” - https://link.medium.com/hnTkrsuEZub

#Eden_Fractal time change! : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39051 : “The Eden+Fractal council approved to change start time of breakout rooms in Wednesday meetings to 16:00 UTC. We’ll open the community room 15:30 UTC. Everyone is encouraged to join the community room before breakout rooms to participate in open discussions.” – “I changed the timezone on the event page to UTC to make it easier for everyone to coordinate their schedules around the world.” – “More in Eden Fractal telegram group: https://t.me/edenfractal

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#Recap Eden Member group (WK47) - posted Sunday 2022-11-27

#Eden_Chief_Delegates-meet No.6 - Nov 18, 2022 : “ The Eden Chief delegates gather to discuss Eden on EOS Governance. - https://youtu.be/TLqjjThvWMY

#Sybil_protection NTT/SBT : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39173 :
--CD-- : “We met Nov 22 to discuss implementing NTT/SBT distribution linked to voting in the election. Follow progress —> https://youtu.be/BfC5mK3VSAU Reviewing Code and Strategy for NTT/SBT Design. Also View @sachitdabas code —> … “
--M-- : “Please review and feel free to contribute and suggest features or changes.”

#Hacks on EOS Network? : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39169 : “In reply to question https://t.me/c/1186628781/39167 -
“”Not that I am aware of, but sounds like a solid idea for an article on EOS SUPPORT. Maybe this is helpful for now - https://t.me/c/1186628781/39169 - DeFi Has a $4 Billion Hacking Problem. EOS Has a... (cryptodaily.co.uk)“

#Eden_University : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39189 : “Building on Eden University fantasy 😀.. Eden university can be entry point for new members. It can have a 101 course for new members with at least these topics - a) Election training and mock elections, b) Benefits of members, c) Values of Eden - To be “formally” part of Eden … “

#Eden_Fractal meeting 24 : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39182 : “The group plays Eden+Fractal and discusses agenda systems, promoting work, making rules, spreading fractal software, and more! - https://youtu.be/kXiH2dhe9Es

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