I am often informed by folks of 6th/7th seal rapture advocates that the 24 elders are OT saints, that the souls under the altar are praying for judgment to begin, and that the white horse of the first seal is the start of the gospel. This simply can't be. Consider the following observations from the Bible.
The 24 elders cannot be the OT saints who rose from the dead at the time of the cross. The 24 are rewarded (thrones, crowns, white resurrection robes) which tells us they have already been resurrected before the 1st seal is opened. The OT saints are raised at the second coming.
The complaint of the souls under the altar does not prove that wrath hasn't started. It only proves that wrath hasn't risen to full crescendo and finished the job. The signs in the heavens (sun, moon, stars, planets) occur at the second coming, at the time of Armageddon (see Joel 2, 3, Is. 13 for example). These waiting souls must wait for full revenge while the judgment of God slowly increases in degree until it explodes in absolute wrath at the second coming.
The white horse can't be the beginning of the gospel. This is playing with Scripture and ignoring details which forbid the notion. First of all, Revelation was written about 60 years after the beginning of the gospel. Secondly, the church age is "the things that are" (Rev. 1:19), while the rapture, tribulation, the seals, trumpets, bowls, etc. are "the things which shall be afterwards" (Rev. 1:19), which is meta tauta in the Greek. Revelation 4:1, after the letters to the 7 churches, begins with that very meta tauta. It should be noted that the fuller Greek grammars, lexicons, and commentaries point out that meta with the genitive indicates association and meta with the accusative indicates sequence. The events beginning in chapter four follow the church age in chapters two and three.
The 24 elders cannot be the OT saints who rose from the dead at the time of the cross. The 24 are rewarded (thrones, crowns, white resurrection robes) which tells us they have already been resurrected before the 1st seal is opened. The OT saints are raised at the second coming.
The complaint of the souls under the altar does not prove that wrath hasn't started. It only proves that wrath hasn't risen to full crescendo and finished the job. The signs in the heavens (sun, moon, stars, planets) occur at the second coming, at the time of Armageddon (see Joel 2, 3, Is. 13 for example). These waiting souls must wait for full revenge while the judgment of God slowly increases in degree until it explodes in absolute wrath at the second coming.
The white horse can't be the beginning of the gospel. This is playing with Scripture and ignoring details which forbid the notion. First of all, Revelation was written about 60 years after the beginning of the gospel. Secondly, the church age is "the things that are" (Rev. 1:19), while the rapture, tribulation, the seals, trumpets, bowls, etc. are "the things which shall be afterwards" (Rev. 1:19), which is meta tauta in the Greek. Revelation 4:1, after the letters to the 7 churches, begins with that very meta tauta. It should be noted that the fuller Greek grammars, lexicons, and commentaries point out that meta with the genitive indicates association and meta with the accusative indicates sequence. The events beginning in chapter four follow the church age in chapters two and three.
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The Seals: Before or After the Rapture?
Scripture gives us three compelling reasons why the church must be in heaven before the first seal is opened.
FIRST, the church is already in heaven in Revelation 4-5, before the Lamb opens the first seal. The 24 elders represent the redeemed, resurrected, and rewarded saints, having been purchased by the blood of Christ and wearing crowns.
SECOND, Scripture identifies the Antichrist as the preeminent sign that the world has entered the Day of the Lord. This is distinct from the Rapture. In 2 Thessalonians 2:1-3, Paul contrasts our gathering together unto Christ with the Day of the Lord. The revelation of the Antichrist is the preeminent sign of the latter.
THIRD, the great delusion of the Antichrist is itself an act of divine judgment. Those who โreceived not the love of the truthโ are given over to strong delusion because they rejected the truth.
The conclusion is straightforward: the first seal introduces the Antichrist and the judgments of the 70th week. The church is not on earth waiting for those judgments. She is already in heaven.
The entire 70th week is a time of judgment.
The seals are not the church's judgment. They are a demonstration of wrath and judgment.
Eyes wide open. Brain engaged. Heart on fire.
Be sure to watch the short video for more details: https://youtu.be/HucElk7olIk?si=oLfc7XTRmJIMACgJ
Scripture gives us three compelling reasons why the church must be in heaven before the first seal is opened.
FIRST, the church is already in heaven in Revelation 4-5, before the Lamb opens the first seal. The 24 elders represent the redeemed, resurrected, and rewarded saints, having been purchased by the blood of Christ and wearing crowns.
SECOND, Scripture identifies the Antichrist as the preeminent sign that the world has entered the Day of the Lord. This is distinct from the Rapture. In 2 Thessalonians 2:1-3, Paul contrasts our gathering together unto Christ with the Day of the Lord. The revelation of the Antichrist is the preeminent sign of the latter.
THIRD, the great delusion of the Antichrist is itself an act of divine judgment. Those who โreceived not the love of the truthโ are given over to strong delusion because they rejected the truth.
The conclusion is straightforward: the first seal introduces the Antichrist and the judgments of the 70th week. The church is not on earth waiting for those judgments. She is already in heaven.
The entire 70th week is a time of judgment.
The seals are not the church's judgment. They are a demonstration of wrath and judgment.
Eyes wide open. Brain engaged. Heart on fire.
Be sure to watch the short video for more details: https://youtu.be/HucElk7olIk?si=oLfc7XTRmJIMACgJ
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We've added two new designs inspired by one of Soothkeep's favorite recurring themes:
๐๐๐๐ซ๐๐ฃ๐๐ช๐๐ ๐จ and ๐๐๐ ๐๐ก๐๐ฃ๐๐ฉ ๐ฝ๐๐๐ฃ๐จ.
If you've enjoyed the references during Soothkeep's teachings, you can now find them on merchandise in the Soothkeep store.
Thank you for supporting the ministry. ๐ฏ of every purchase is donated to Faith Comes By Hearing.
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๐๐ฉ๐ฆ ๐๐ข๐ฎ๐ฆ๐ด ๐ฐ๐ง ๐๐ฐ๐ฅ, ๐๐ข๐ณ๐ต 4
Without a beginning, with never an end,
Our God is beyond what our minds comprehend.
Our King, uncreated, immortal, and strong,
To Him all our honor and praises belong.
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๐๐ฉ๐ฆ ๐๐ข๐ฎ๐ฆ๐ด ๐ฐ๐ง ๐๐ฐ๐ฅ, ๐๐ข๐ณ๐ต 4
Without a beginning, with never an end,
Our God is beyond what our minds comprehend.
Our King, uncreated, immortal, and strong,
To Him all our honor and praises belong.
๐๐ผ๐ป๐๐ถ๐ป๐๐ฒ ๐ฅ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ฑ๐ถ๐ป๐ด: https://soothkeep.info/el-olam-the-everlasting-god/
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The Unholy Trinity
Antichrist, the Mark of the Beast, and anti-Semitism, three forces ...
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Does โthe last trumpetโ in 1 Corinthians 15:52 have to be the seventh trumpet of Revelation?
Eschatos does not always mean last in the sense of last in a series. This is where much of the confusion lies.
Eschatos also means "end" or "boundary," and was used in Greek for a river or mountain range that marked the border of a nation, the end of a ship, a final exam or test even if there were no tests or exams before.
The church's eschatos trumpet could be the final trumpet even if there were no prior trumpets, because the trumpet marks the end of the church age.
Eschatos does not always mean last in the sense of last in a series. This is where much of the confusion lies.
Eschatos also means "end" or "boundary," and was used in Greek for a river or mountain range that marked the border of a nation, the end of a ship, a final exam or test even if there were no tests or exams before.
The church's eschatos trumpet could be the final trumpet even if there were no prior trumpets, because the trumpet marks the end of the church age.
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Tomorrow, August 12, will almost certainly be a Nothing Burger.
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KEPT FROM THE HOUR - NOT THROUGH IT
What exactly did Jesus promise the church in Revelation 3:10?
โI also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.โ
The key is the Greek construction ฯฮทฯฮญฯ แผฮบ (tฤreล ek)-โkeep from.โ
Some argue that this means Christ will preserve His church through the Tribulation. But that interpretation fails to deal with what Jesus actually said He would keep His people from: the hour itself.
Consider John 17:15:
โI pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.โ
The same ฯฮทฯฮญฯ แผฮบ construction appears there.
Jesus wasn't praying for His disciples to be removed from the world. He was asking the Father to keep them from the evil one while they remained in the world.
But Revelation 3:10 is different in its object and context.
Jesus promises to keep His church from โthe hour of temptationโ, an hour that will come upon the whole world to test those who dwell upon the earth.
The promise isn't simply, โI will protect you while you're in the hour.โ
It is:
โI will keep you from the hour.โ
And notice that Revelation doesn't merely say the church will be kept from the judgments of that hour. Christ says He will keep her from the hour itself.
That is why the distinction between being kept from something and being kept through something matters so much.
The Church has never been promised immunity from every trial in this present world. But Christ gave a very specific promise concerning a very specific future hour, and that hour is coming upon the entire inhabited world.
Christ's promise is not preservation through the hour.
It is deliverance from the hour.
That is the significance of Revelation 3:10, and why it points to the pre-Tribulation Rapture.
What exactly did Jesus promise the church in Revelation 3:10?
โI also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.โ
The key is the Greek construction ฯฮทฯฮญฯ แผฮบ (tฤreล ek)-โkeep from.โ
Some argue that this means Christ will preserve His church through the Tribulation. But that interpretation fails to deal with what Jesus actually said He would keep His people from: the hour itself.
Consider John 17:15:
โI pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.โ
The same ฯฮทฯฮญฯ แผฮบ construction appears there.
Jesus wasn't praying for His disciples to be removed from the world. He was asking the Father to keep them from the evil one while they remained in the world.
But Revelation 3:10 is different in its object and context.
Jesus promises to keep His church from โthe hour of temptationโ, an hour that will come upon the whole world to test those who dwell upon the earth.
The promise isn't simply, โI will protect you while you're in the hour.โ
It is:
โI will keep you from the hour.โ
And notice that Revelation doesn't merely say the church will be kept from the judgments of that hour. Christ says He will keep her from the hour itself.
That is why the distinction between being kept from something and being kept through something matters so much.
The Church has never been promised immunity from every trial in this present world. But Christ gave a very specific promise concerning a very specific future hour, and that hour is coming upon the entire inhabited world.
Christ's promise is not preservation through the hour.
It is deliverance from the hour.
That is the significance of Revelation 3:10, and why it points to the pre-Tribulation Rapture.
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