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VANDEN BOSSCHE'S MESSAGE: Natural antibodies are much better as a mass strategy because they are broader and more generic, so can cover and stop more variants. Vaccine antibodies as a mass strategy can lead to a more virulent and deadly variant for people who have been vaccinated because vaccine antibodies are more strain specific, allowing immune escape from other variants. This is Vanden Bossche's claim. Where I think he may be wrong is that I don't think we are in the middle of a pandemic. Conclusion: avoid the vaccines like the plague if you are not at risk.
Robin Monotti + Cory Morningstar
I designed a way out of this & all similar pandemics. I called it the #MonottiProtocol. Take a look.
VANDEN BOSSCHE'S MESSAGE: THE MONOTTI PROTOCOL WAS THE RIGHT MASS STRATEGY: MASS VACCINATIONS ARE THE WRONG STRATEGY.
VANDEN BOSSCHE:
GREAT BARRINGTON DECLARATION
THE MONOTTI PROTOCOL
MASS VACCINATIONS FOR THOSE NOT AT RISK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtHfI00D_s4
"Just last week the Washington Post ran an op-ed piece by California State Senator Richard Pam headlined:

Anti-vaccine extremism is akin to domestic terrorism

..we can likely expect a new false-flag.
Something along the lines of a “lone wolf extremist” who was “radicalised online” by “militant anti-vaxxers” and then allegedly does something crazy like mail Bill Gates a suitcase full of home-made explosives or drives a tanker truck into a vaccination centre.
Of course, that will mean we need to start shutting down and censoring “vaccine misinformation” which is “encouraging violence” and “damaging public health”.

https://off-guardian.org/2021/03/08/called-it-wapo-calls-anti-vaxxers-domestic-terrorists/
Which cancers are associated with exposure to ethylene oxide?

Lymphoma and leukemia are the cancers most frequently reported to be associated with occupational exposure to ethylene oxide. Stomach and breast cancers may also be associated with ethylene oxide exposure.
https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/substances/ethylene-oxide
Forwarded from Mike Yeadon
Respectfully, I disagree that there’s a risk as outlined.

I am unconvinced that antibodies play am important role in protection, certainly against severe disease. That task belongs to other components of the immune system, notably T-cells, cytotoxic T lymphocytes, which are trained to detect & destroy virus infected cells.
Antibodies cannot do that for they are very large molecules, generally considered to remain outside cells. Yet the virus resides & replicates inside cells. It’s when they leave fragments of themselves displayed on the surface of those calls & are recognised by T-cells, that’s when they are marked for controlled destruction & with it, the virus within.
That capability, to detect the virus, uses a complex “molecular identity parade”: the virus is cut up into hundreds of unique short pieces. Each of us possesses huge diversity in our T-cells ability to recognise these unique pieces of foreign invader & then multiply through what’s called clonal expansion until we have hundreds of millions of each T-cell type against several dozen different pieces of virus.
If a variant infects us, the vast majority of the virus sequence is unchanged, and do almost every trained type of T-cell still finds & kills cells bearing the same pieces they’re trained to recognise, and to kill variant infected cells.
This has been shown to work in recent experiments by talented immunologists at the La Jolla Institute in California. They must be working flat out & they work is world class.
Very many authors but look for papers in Cell (2021) by lead author Tarke, A et al.
They’ve made a comprehensive study of every protein ‘snippet’ into which this virus is cut, finding something like 600 unique pieces.
Each person uses a few dozen snippets to train their T-cells, and that collection is called our ‘repertoire’. Our repertoire is unique: mine is different from yours, the permutations & combinations of snippets we each use to protect us is different.
Not only does this mean the virus has to do the equivalent of rolling 40 sixes in a row to escape immunity, but even in that unlikely event, it has no significance to the POPULATION. Because each of us has a different repertoire.
Trust me: this overblown virus is pretty ordinary from an immunological perspective. The most likely end game is it dies out or becomes low level endemic within the next year.
Forwarded from Mike Yeadon
Variants arise spontaneously due to the error-prone replication of this virus. Compared with influenza, however, the rate of variation is slow. Despite the exaggerated news on this front, in over a year, the most-changed variant (Brazilian P1) of SARS-CoV-2 is just 0.2% different from the Wuhan sequence. So far, no variant has been particularly important functionally, with the expected trend towards modestly increased ease of transmission. Reassuringly, it’s recently been shown that those recovering from natural infection or having been vaccinated all possess a broad repertoire of T-cell responses entirely capable of recognising all the most noted variants (https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.02.27.433180v1.full.pdf). As mentioned before, immune escape is considered by the most qualified immunologists to be implausible (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S266637912100015X). Thus, variants are not an issue. In any case, it’s simply not true that variants are more likely to arise in unvaccinated people. It’s an immunologically unsound concept & arguably the converse is more likely. We reject this line of ‘persuasion’ out of hand. 
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Forwarded from Mike Yeadon
Very frightening. I’m completely relaxed about the absurdity that an honest & experienced scientist who can support everything I say by reference either to university textbooks (the lies are that bad) or from the extensive reading I still do in retirement of original research papers. It’s a hobby. If you’re a science type of person, you don’t stop thinking about “the fastest route to the negative answer” - looking for evidence that destroys your central premises. That’s what Popper taught is the scientific method. This is almost the entirety of what separates us from PFE-Enlightenment thinking. Science is never “settled”: it’s a series of contentions, hypotheses & conjectures, always subject to being invalidated or falsified by the exception that shows we’re wrong.
The pro lockdown people simply wont do that. There’s ample evidence that lockdowns do not do what they claim, but they will not admit that the many exceptions to their expectations are meaningful. Theirs has become almost a religious doctrine. That’s very dangerous.
Forwarded from Mike Yeadon
Please do not give up your freedom to decide whether or not to consent to an experimental medical intervention in exchange for SOME of your freedoms back.
It’s unethical to pressure you to accept vaccination for NON MEDICAL reasons.
Accept restrictions that they threaten you with. If enough of us cross our arms, look then in the eye & say “No, thanks”, they lose.
Vaccine passports are a blind tunnel from which nether we nor our children will ever emerge. It’s a one way trap.
They need to impose them en masse or it won’t work. Don’t do their work for them. Don’t be bribed , frightened or lied into accepting what your gut advises you not to.
The Council of Europe, of which we remain a member, is explicit: member states are reminded that it is illegal to mandate or coerce populations into accepting medical interventions & they must not discriminate against those choosing to decline.
Forwarded from Mike Yeadon
In U.K. our all causes mortality has sunk back to normal. Now, I don’t believe for a moment that lockdowns have been the cause. It’s massed population immunity. I know I called it prematurely last autumn but I’m not ready to completely concede that we were not near herd immunity. And I think we’re there now. My estimate of % of population who’ve been infected is now mainstream with CDC in the US stating around 25%. Evidence continues to emerge that 20-50% of us had some prior immunity. The youngest are effectively resistant to infection & transmission. Simple arithmetic doesn’t leave enough susceptible people to again have an epidemic at scale in already heavily hit regions.
We also know masks are just lies.
So the event is over.
We’ve been deliberately whipped into a MASS PANIC & relentlessly administered fear for a year.
Well, I’m not frightened & I’m not going away.
Forwarded from Mike Yeadon
Thanks. I’m tired & not feeling well but most of all, I’m furious.
I can’t tell you how disappointed I am at my profession. So few are willing to even describe at a high level how immunity to viruses is accomplished. Why not?
I’m sorry but it’s a moral failure, sheer self serving cowardice.
Many of our best immunologists are university researchers & professors. Some I’ve spoken with agree with my basic analysis. It’s not even particularly advanced immunology. I’m a bit of a hoarder of biological scientific knowledge, because I’ve had a passion for it since I was a child.
I’ve also never been able to tolerate injustice, lying & bullying. It’s a red rag to a bull with me.
Forwarded from Mike Yeadon
Hello everyone! Alive & kicking. I don’t have my own channel but o am still doing what I can to keep science honest.
Here’s my take on vaccination. I don’t think there’s a more important time to think, be still, anticipate where your near term decisions will lead us.

Here’s my take on vaccination:
1. Healthy people under 60 are at a very low risk from the virus. If you didn’t seek a flu vaccine then you definitely don’t need this vaccine because flu risk is greater than covid risk for the under-70s.
2. I do not believe for one minute that vaccination will result in our freedoms being returned. The whole coercive act around forcing people who won’t benefit to get vaccinated is to get digital ID on everyone. The way to oppose evil is to exert your rights & say “No, thanks”. Not to go along with it. That way lies permanent purgatory because what’s next? A top up against variants? You’ll be made to take every vaccine the authorities dictate.
3. Some tourist dependent countries want tourists so badly they will admit them without vaccination. Help them by going there. This pressure succeeds or it fails. It won’t take years. We have to win or it’ll be forced into our children.
4. Consider younger people. They’re not at a measurable risk. Taking a vaccine helps them not at all, but it adds risk for adverse effects in the mid to long term. No one can tell us what that risk is because the technology is new & the data simply doesn’t exist. Because they’re different from anything we’ve done before, it’s irresponsible to be rolling out vaccines except to those at clearly elevated risk if infected.
5. Why are medical professionals silent? Why are all institutions supine? I don’t know, but it’s frightening.
Forwarded from Mike Yeadon
Virtually no one in the construction trades have died either. They’ve continued just as every other year to interact in large networks & they can smell the BS. My son in law is among them & reports people are ready to move to massed civil disobedience.
Forwarded from Mike Yeadon
There I am in agreement with Vanden Bossche!
Those not at obviously elevated risk of severe outcomes including death should not even be offered these experimental treatments.
Forwarded from Mike Yeadon
I endorse his conclusions though I have a different perspective on the immunology.
He’s probably right that massed vaccination is the wrong strategy & I thank him for providing a new rationale.
Just a reminder: "Covid19 cases" graphs and numbers do not reflect true cases, they reflect the cycle threshold at which a RT-PCR calls a positive. It should be 24 but the WHO linked directives on various protocols called it at 35, 40 or even 45. The WHO, in correspondence with Biden's inauguration and the vaccine roll-out decided to issue a directive effectively telling all labs to reduce the cycle thresholds at which a positive is called: WHO. 13th January 2021
One full year into this pandemic:

"MANUAL ADJUSTMENT of the PCR positivity threshold is RECOMMENDED. 👉The cycle threshold (Ct) needed to detect virus is inversely proportional to the patient’s viral load👈."

https://www.who.int/news/item/20-01-2021-who-information-notice-for-ivd-users-2020-05