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๐จMONDAYโS GOING UNDERGROUND
What is fuelling the UKโs๐ฌ๐ง bizarre and delusional policy in trying to continue the Ukraine๐บ๐ฆ proxy war and putting itself on a direct collision course with Russia๐ท๐บ?
We will be joined by Lord Skidelsky, one of the greatest economic historians of the 20th Century, who will explain the motivations behind the UKโs policy with regards to the Ukraine proxy war, which has so far been an unending disaster
Donโt miss it, follow our Rumble channel: https://rumble.com/c/GoingUnderground
What is fuelling the UKโs๐ฌ๐ง bizarre and delusional policy in trying to continue the Ukraine๐บ๐ฆ proxy war and putting itself on a direct collision course with Russia๐ท๐บ?
We will be joined by Lord Skidelsky, one of the greatest economic historians of the 20th Century, who will explain the motivations behind the UKโs policy with regards to the Ukraine proxy war, which has so far been an unending disaster
Donโt miss it, follow our Rumble channel: https://rumble.com/c/GoingUnderground
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๐จ๐ฌ๐ง๐ท๐บLORD SKIDELSKY: YUGOSLAVIA EXPOSED THE LIE THAT NATO IS A PURELY DEFENSIVE ORGANISATION
'The bombing of Yugoslavia in 1997 wasn't authorised by the United Nations, it was a NATO operation, and it gives the lie to the idea that NATO is a purely defensive organisation. I think if you're also trying to work out what the Russian attitude has been, ever since the collapse of the Soviet Union, there's been a consistent opposition to the eastward expansion of NATO. That's running consistently from Gorbachev, Yeltsin, to Putin.'
'That's always been met by the argument that NATO is a purely defensive organisation, that there's nothing to fear. And this idea that NATO is a sort of encircling beast is something conjured up by the Russians...so you have that narrative. The other case you can raise is the operation in Iraq.'
-Lord Skidelsky, one of the 20th Century's greatest economic historians and award-winning biographer of John Maynard Keynes, joins us on Monday's Going Underground to discuss the motivations behind what he calls the 'shambles' that is the UK's policy on the Ukraine proxy war
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'The bombing of Yugoslavia in 1997 wasn't authorised by the United Nations, it was a NATO operation, and it gives the lie to the idea that NATO is a purely defensive organisation. I think if you're also trying to work out what the Russian attitude has been, ever since the collapse of the Soviet Union, there's been a consistent opposition to the eastward expansion of NATO. That's running consistently from Gorbachev, Yeltsin, to Putin.'
'That's always been met by the argument that NATO is a purely defensive organisation, that there's nothing to fear. And this idea that NATO is a sort of encircling beast is something conjured up by the Russians...so you have that narrative. The other case you can raise is the operation in Iraq.'
-Lord Skidelsky, one of the 20th Century's greatest economic historians and award-winning biographer of John Maynard Keynes, joins us on Monday's Going Underground to discuss the motivations behind what he calls the 'shambles' that is the UK's policy on the Ukraine proxy war
Donโt miss it, follow our Rumble channel: https://rumble.com/c/GoingUnderground
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๐จNEW EPISODE OF GOING UNDERGROUND
UK๐ฌ๐ง Policy on Ukraine๐บ๐ฆ Proxy War is a SHAMBLES, Based on LIES- Lord Skidelsky
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UK๐ฌ๐ง Policy on Ukraine๐บ๐ฆ Proxy War is a SHAMBLES, Based on LIES- Lord Skidelsky
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UK Policy on Ukraine Proxy War is a SHAMBLES, Based on LIES- Lord Skidelsky
FOLLOW US ON ALL PLATFORMS: https://linktr.ee/goingundergroundtv On this episode of Going Underground, we speak to Lord Skidelsky, one of the greatest economic historians of the 21st Century and award
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๐ฌ๐ง๐บ๐ฆ๐ท๐บLord Skidelsky: The UK's Ukraine proxy war policy is a SHAMBLES and based on LIES
'The word shambles is right. The whole of our policy was based on a lie, which is that we'd come to the aid of Ukraine whatever it took. And the point is that we were never prepared to come to the help of Ukraine, whatever it took. That is to give enough support to Ukraine for them to achieve a victory over Russia. So there was always that element of deception there.'
'Gradually, it became more palpable that Ukraine wasn't actually doing so well in the war from 2024 onward. So this idea that we were going to do whatever it took to achieve a Ukrainian victory not only became more and more false but also more and more immoral because we were actually encouraging the fighting to go on rather than seeking some way of ending it. All that was changed with the victory of Donald Trump, which left the UK and the European allies without a plausible policy.'
-Lord Skidelsky, one of the 20th Century's greatest economic historians and award-winning biographer of John Maynard Keynes, on the Ukraine proxy war
FULL INTERVIEW: https://rumble.com/v6qpzo0-uk-policy-on-ukraine-proxy-war-is-a-shambles-based-on-lies-lord-skidelsky.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp
'The word shambles is right. The whole of our policy was based on a lie, which is that we'd come to the aid of Ukraine whatever it took. And the point is that we were never prepared to come to the help of Ukraine, whatever it took. That is to give enough support to Ukraine for them to achieve a victory over Russia. So there was always that element of deception there.'
'Gradually, it became more palpable that Ukraine wasn't actually doing so well in the war from 2024 onward. So this idea that we were going to do whatever it took to achieve a Ukrainian victory not only became more and more false but also more and more immoral because we were actually encouraging the fighting to go on rather than seeking some way of ending it. All that was changed with the victory of Donald Trump, which left the UK and the European allies without a plausible policy.'
-Lord Skidelsky, one of the 20th Century's greatest economic historians and award-winning biographer of John Maynard Keynes, on the Ukraine proxy war
FULL INTERVIEW: https://rumble.com/v6qpzo0-uk-policy-on-ukraine-proxy-war-is-a-shambles-based-on-lies-lord-skidelsky.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp
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Americans: โWhy is there no money for universal healthcare?โ
US government: โWe are spending hundreds of millions of dollars each time we bomb Yemen๐พ๐ช, the poorest country in the Middle East.โ
US government: โWe are spending hundreds of millions of dollars each time we bomb Yemen๐พ๐ช, the poorest country in the Middle East.โ
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๐ท๐บ๐บ๐ฆAccording to Zelensky, his own soldiers and the BBC are repeating โPutinโs liesโ, as the Ukrainian Army collapses in Kursk and is forced to retreat.
Zelenskyโs delusion and suicidal gamble in Kursk, egged on by NATO countries, has failed. 67,000+ casualties for nothing.
Zelenskyโs delusion and suicidal gamble in Kursk, egged on by NATO countries, has failed. 67,000+ casualties for nothing.
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Lord Skidelsky: Russia๐ท๐บ WAS PROVOKED, negotiated peace in Ukraine๐บ๐ฆ means UK๐ฌ๐ง policy is in RUINS
'You get a narrative, and that narrative has cliches attached to it, and one of the cliches is unprovoked. it's just the adjective...the other adjective that is always used is full-scale. The 'unprovoked full-scale aggression' of Russia against Ukraine. Those terms are all linked together and they're just repeated as a mantra and journalists don't have any other vocabulary...'
'I cringe when I hear these cliches, and of course Russia was provoked...I cannot accept the idea that the invasion was unprovoked or that it was full-scale.'
'There is obviously going to be a compromise peace...it's left British policy in ruins.'
-Lord Skidelsky, one of the 20th Century's greatest economic historians and award-winning biographer of John Maynard Keynes, on the Ukraine proxy war
FULL INTERVIEW: https://rumble.com/v6qpzo0-uk-policy-on-ukraine-proxy-war-is-a-shambles-based-on-lies-lord-skidelsky.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp
'You get a narrative, and that narrative has cliches attached to it, and one of the cliches is unprovoked. it's just the adjective...the other adjective that is always used is full-scale. The 'unprovoked full-scale aggression' of Russia against Ukraine. Those terms are all linked together and they're just repeated as a mantra and journalists don't have any other vocabulary...'
'I cringe when I hear these cliches, and of course Russia was provoked...I cannot accept the idea that the invasion was unprovoked or that it was full-scale.'
'There is obviously going to be a compromise peace...it's left British policy in ruins.'
-Lord Skidelsky, one of the 20th Century's greatest economic historians and award-winning biographer of John Maynard Keynes, on the Ukraine proxy war
FULL INTERVIEW: https://rumble.com/v6qpzo0-uk-policy-on-ukraine-proxy-war-is-a-shambles-based-on-lies-lord-skidelsky.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp
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๐ช๐บ๐บ๐ฆ๐ท๐บMacron says European countries donโt need Russiaโs permission to deploy troops in Ukraine to enforce a peace deal.
Russia has made it explicitly clear that NATO nation troops in Ukraine means direct conflict with Russia, in other words World War 3.
While Washington and Moscow negotiate based on respect of each otherโs core interests, the circus in Europe is only interested in performing dangerous antics that risk WW3 in order to try and stay relevant, as it faces isolation from Washington, Moscow, and Beijing.
Russia has made it explicitly clear that NATO nation troops in Ukraine means direct conflict with Russia, in other words World War 3.
While Washington and Moscow negotiate based on respect of each otherโs core interests, the circus in Europe is only interested in performing dangerous antics that risk WW3 in order to try and stay relevant, as it faces isolation from Washington, Moscow, and Beijing.
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๐ฌ๐ง๐ช๐บ๐ท๐บLord Skidelsky RIDICULES European plan to deploy troops in Ukraine:
โTrump shredded the script, he shredded the narrative on which our public life has been based in this particular area for the last three years and the problem for Sir Keir Starmer and to a lesser extent other nations, is how to insert themselves into the new script. Various things theyโve tried to do have been non-starters.โ
โOne is to get a coalition of the willing, that is Britain, France and maybe one or two another nations to police the ceasefire and therefore get into Ukraine. That was never going to work. Russia was never going to accept. They said it because it was a way of trying to make themselves relevant to a process from which they are being excluded.โ
-Lord Skidelsky, one of the 20th Century's greatest economic historians and award-winning biographer of John Maynard Keynes, on the Ukraine proxy war
FULL INTERVIEW: https://rumble.com/v6qpzo0-uk-policy-on-ukraine-proxy-war-is-a-shambles-based-on-lies-lord-skidelsky.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp
โTrump shredded the script, he shredded the narrative on which our public life has been based in this particular area for the last three years and the problem for Sir Keir Starmer and to a lesser extent other nations, is how to insert themselves into the new script. Various things theyโve tried to do have been non-starters.โ
โOne is to get a coalition of the willing, that is Britain, France and maybe one or two another nations to police the ceasefire and therefore get into Ukraine. That was never going to work. Russia was never going to accept. They said it because it was a way of trying to make themselves relevant to a process from which they are being excluded.โ
-Lord Skidelsky, one of the 20th Century's greatest economic historians and award-winning biographer of John Maynard Keynes, on the Ukraine proxy war
FULL INTERVIEW: https://rumble.com/v6qpzo0-uk-policy-on-ukraine-proxy-war-is-a-shambles-based-on-lies-lord-skidelsky.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp
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Lord Skidelsky said the British๐ฌ๐ง and European plan to deploy troops to Ukraine๐บ๐ฆ is a non-starter and just an attempt to make themselves relevant to a process from which they are being excluded.
Hereโs an example of the exclusion: Donald Trump says the issue of dividing territory and assets is being discussed to end the Russia๐ท๐บ-NATO proxy war in Ukraine.
While Washington deals with the core points of contention in the peace negotiations, which are no NATO membership for Ukraine and ceding territoryโฆFrance, the UK, and other European countries loudly announce non-starter nonsense like deploying troops to Ukraine, which Russia has said would mean direct conflict.
Washington and Moscow will continue to ignore Europe, and Europe will be isolated with its geopolitical circus.
Hereโs an example of the exclusion: Donald Trump says the issue of dividing territory and assets is being discussed to end the Russia๐ท๐บ-NATO proxy war in Ukraine.
While Washington deals with the core points of contention in the peace negotiations, which are no NATO membership for Ukraine and ceding territoryโฆFrance, the UK, and other European countries loudly announce non-starter nonsense like deploying troops to Ukraine, which Russia has said would mean direct conflict.
Washington and Moscow will continue to ignore Europe, and Europe will be isolated with its geopolitical circus.
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๐ท๐บ๐บ๐ฆ"Ukraine can have countless discussions with its allies, but they will lead nowhereโฆthe current situation provides an opportunity for meaningful and productive talks between Ukraine and Russia.โ
-Indiaโs Prime Minister Narendra Modi calls for direct negotiations between Russia and Ukraine, and de facto calls Ukraineโs endless talks with the UK and Europe useless.
The global south views Europeโs loud pantomime as nothing but a sideshow.
-Indiaโs Prime Minister Narendra Modi calls for direct negotiations between Russia and Ukraine, and de facto calls Ukraineโs endless talks with the UK and Europe useless.
The global south views Europeโs loud pantomime as nothing but a sideshow.
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Lord Skidelsky on Ukraine๐บ๐ฆ: UK๐ฌ๐ง and Europe๐ช๐บ are pursuing Military Keynesianism
โAt the moment, the UKโs and Europeโs leaders are trapped by their so-called fiscal rulesโฆso defence breaks these fiscal rules. Whatโs going on is something I think we would recognise as Military Keynesianism. You canโt justify large state expenditures for welfare or things of this kind. You have to cut those because we canโt afford it.โ
โBut as soon as you raise the question of national security, everything becomes affordable and thatโs whatโs happening nowโฆthe Germans are breaking their fiscal rules in order to boost their defence. The British will be breaking their fiscal rules in order to get more money for defence. And the justification for everything is Ukraine.โ
-Lord Skidelsky, one of the 20th Century's greatest economic historians and award-winning biographer of John Maynard Keynes, on the Ukraine proxy war
FULL INTERVIEW: https://rumble.com/v6qpzo0-uk-policy-on-ukraine-proxy-war-is-a-shambles-based-on-lies-lord-skidelsky.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp
โAt the moment, the UKโs and Europeโs leaders are trapped by their so-called fiscal rulesโฆso defence breaks these fiscal rules. Whatโs going on is something I think we would recognise as Military Keynesianism. You canโt justify large state expenditures for welfare or things of this kind. You have to cut those because we canโt afford it.โ
โBut as soon as you raise the question of national security, everything becomes affordable and thatโs whatโs happening nowโฆthe Germans are breaking their fiscal rules in order to boost their defence. The British will be breaking their fiscal rules in order to get more money for defence. And the justification for everything is Ukraine.โ
-Lord Skidelsky, one of the 20th Century's greatest economic historians and award-winning biographer of John Maynard Keynes, on the Ukraine proxy war
FULL INTERVIEW: https://rumble.com/v6qpzo0-uk-policy-on-ukraine-proxy-war-is-a-shambles-based-on-lies-lord-skidelsky.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp
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๐จBREAKING: DONALD TRUMP WARNS IRAN๐ฎ๐ท
'From now on, every shot fired by the Houthis will be considered as a shot fired by the weapons and leadership of Iran, and Iran will be held accountable, and suffer the consequences'
Every day, the brink of catastrophic regional war between the US๐บ๐ธ and Iran๐ฎ๐ท seems to draw nearer. A regional war between the US and Iran would only mean catastrophic consequences for the US, Iran and the entire region.
The only one that stands to benefit is Benjamin Netanyahu in Israel.
'From now on, every shot fired by the Houthis will be considered as a shot fired by the weapons and leadership of Iran, and Iran will be held accountable, and suffer the consequences'
Every day, the brink of catastrophic regional war between the US๐บ๐ธ and Iran๐ฎ๐ท seems to draw nearer. A regional war between the US and Iran would only mean catastrophic consequences for the US, Iran and the entire region.
The only one that stands to benefit is Benjamin Netanyahu in Israel.
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Clayton Morris explains how the CIA under the LBJ Administration and Israel collaborated to orchestrate the USS Liberty attack, as a false flag to start a war against Egypt.
34 US personnel were killed in Israelโs attack on the USS Liberty.
There were zero repercussions. The 7th chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, accused President Lyndon B. Johnson of having covered up that the attack was a deliberate act.
LBJโs Secretary of State Dean Rusk said โI was never satisfied with the Israeli explanation. Their sustained attack to disable and sink Liberty precluded an assault by accident or some trigger-happy local commander. Through diplomatic channels we refused to accept their explanations. I didn't believe them then, and I don't believe them to this day. The attack was outrageous.โ
34 US personnel were killed in Israelโs attack on the USS Liberty.
There were zero repercussions. The 7th chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, accused President Lyndon B. Johnson of having covered up that the attack was a deliberate act.
LBJโs Secretary of State Dean Rusk said โI was never satisfied with the Israeli explanation. Their sustained attack to disable and sink Liberty precluded an assault by accident or some trigger-happy local commander. Through diplomatic channels we refused to accept their explanations. I didn't believe them then, and I don't believe them to this day. The attack was outrageous.โ
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President Trump will speak Russiaโs๐ท๐บ President Vladimir Putin TOMORROW
"We are on the 10th yard line of peace and we've never been closer to a peace deal than we are in this moment. The President is determined to get one done."
Europe is completely excluded and isolated. The sideshow circus of bellicose rhetoric is ignored by Washington and Moscow, and the serious negotiations based on interests and realities take place.
"We are on the 10th yard line of peace and we've never been closer to a peace deal than we are in this moment. The President is determined to get one done."
Europe is completely excluded and isolated. The sideshow circus of bellicose rhetoric is ignored by Washington and Moscow, and the serious negotiations based on interests and realities take place.
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BREAKING: TRUMP SAYS ALL JFK FILES WILL BE RELEASED TOMORROW
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๐จISRAEL BREAKS THE GAZA CEASEFIRE, KILLS HUNDREDS
In a wanton massacre, US-UK-EU-armed Israel launched airstrikes against Gaza and has reportedly killed over 350 Palestinians, including many children
The child in this video mourns the killing of his father by Israel
In a wanton massacre, US-UK-EU-armed Israel launched airstrikes against Gaza and has reportedly killed over 350 Palestinians, including many children
The child in this video mourns the killing of his father by Israel
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TUCKER CARLSON SPEAKS OUT AGAINST US๐บ๐ธ WAR ON IRAN๐ฎ๐ท:
โIt's worth pointing out that a strike on the Iranian nuclear sites will almost certainly result in thousands of American deaths at bases throughout the Middle East, and cost the United States tens of billions of dollars. The cost of future acts of terrorism on American soil may be even higher. Those aren't guesses. Those are the Pentagon's own estimates. A bombing campaign against Iran will set off a war, and it will be America's war. Don't let the propagandists lie to you.โ
โIt's worth pointing out that a strike on the Iranian nuclear sites will almost certainly result in thousands of American deaths at bases throughout the Middle East, and cost the United States tens of billions of dollars. The cost of future acts of terrorism on American soil may be even higher. Those aren't guesses. Those are the Pentagon's own estimates. A bombing campaign against Iran will set off a war, and it will be America's war. Don't let the propagandists lie to you.โ
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The White House has said Israel consulted the US on its latest round of bombing Gaza which has killed 350+ people, and has publicly supported Israelโs resumed bombardment
One of the resulting horrors: A Palestinian father identifies the corpse of his child at the Nasser hospital
One of the resulting horrors: A Palestinian father identifies the corpse of his child at the Nasser hospital
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US๐บ๐ธ General Wesley Clark recalls the post-9/11 plan made by the Bush Administration for endless war:
โWe were going to take out 7 countries in 5 yearsโ
Iraq
Syria
Lebanon
Somalia
Sudan
Iran
Iran, the final country on the list may be imminently attacked by the US
โWe were going to take out 7 countries in 5 yearsโ
Iraq
Syria
Lebanon
Somalia
Sudan
Iran
Iran, the final country on the list may be imminently attacked by the US
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