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Bringing you news from around the ๐ŸŒ, we ask the questions mainstream media avoid. Hosted by Afshin Rattansi, broadcast globally. Our Channel: https://rumble.com/c/GoingUnderground
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๐Ÿšจ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บNO PUBLIC DEBATE IN BRITAIN OVER RUSSIA, BRITISH INTERESTS, JUST ABSOLUTE MEDIA CONSENSUS

'When it comes to European publics, what can you expect? Look at Britain. If the BBC, The Times, the Daily Telegraph, and even The Guardian and the magazines are saying exactly the same thing, and they're all basically getting their cue from government-funded think tanks which are unanimous on the same subject, you can't expect ordinary people to know any better. We talk about Russian disinformation, but if you look at Britain today, there is no public debate, there is no serious public discussion about British interests, British priorities, international realities, military realities, none of it. Really authoritarian regimes would have to work very hard to create the kind of absolute media and intellectual consensus that you see in Britain now.'

-Prof. Anatol Lieven on the media environment in the UK and the absence of public debate on Russia and the Ukraine proxy war

FULL INTERVIEW: https://rumble.com/v6pzwmy-ukraine-europe-outsourced-its-brains-to-the-us-refuses-to-end-hostility-wit.html
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Vladimir Putin๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ:

"If everyone wants peace, tranquility, prosperity, and trust, whatโ€™s wrong with not placing strike systems near Russia's borders? Can anyone answer?โ€

โ€œOr, if NATO is a peaceful organization, what is wrong with returning to the NATO infrastructure as it was at the time of the 1997 Russia-NATO treaty?"
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๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บWhat could possibly be the logic for Zelensky to reject an immediate ceasefire?

Every single day, Zelensky loses more territory, loses more Ukrainian soldiers as the defensive lines collapse, and his negotiating position with Russia becomes incrementally weaker day after day.

Previously, it was obvious. Zelensky was doing the bidding of Washington, continuing the proxy war to the last Ukrainian and refusing to stop the fighting because it was Bidenโ€™s goal to bring Russia to its knees by throwing Ukrainian lives at it.

Now the US under Trump wants no part of this proxy war that has brought us close to World War 3, and is actively trying to end the proxy war as soon as possible through negotiations with Putin.

So who is Zelensky continuing this losing, failed war for? If the answer to that question is for the UK and Europe, the Island of Irrelevancy in the multipolar world, and their continued ambition of trying to use Ukraine to weaken Russia, then Zelensky is more out-of-touch and delusional than previously thought.

Europe is in no position to replace the colossal military and financial assistance provided by the US, and will never be able to. If US assistance completely halts, Ukraineโ€™s military will eventually collapse.

So why would Zelensky waste more Ukrainian lives pursuing an even worse outcome when he could immediately freeze the battle lines and prevent the situation getting any worse?

To put it simply, the decision-making is baffling to say the least.
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๐ŸšจEUROPE 'OUTSOURCED THEIR BRAINS' TO THE USA๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ OVER SECURITY AND RUSSIA๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ

'From a security and strategy point of view, European countries simply outsourced their brains to Washington's bipartisan establishment, which is now ceasing to exist...it doesn't surprise me much in Germany because all of this comes out of WW2, it doesn't surprise me so much in Britain because to a great extent, the British establishment has merged with the American establishment in a subordinate role. It does surprise me somewhat that France has done this...'

'They just were not thinking, they spent the first Trump administration waiting and praying for the Democrats to come back. They came back, European countries were so delighted that they subordinated themselves completely to Biden's agenda in Ukraine...many of them refused to believe that Trump could be re-elected.'

'They trapped themselves with their rhetoric against Russia, their language about Russian threats to Europe, it's easy enough for Trump to reverse that because he wasn't in power.'

-Prof. Anaton Lieven of the Quincy Institute slams the foreign policy of the UK and European countries on Going Underground

FULL INTERVIEW: https://rumble.com/v6pzwmy-ukraine-europe-outsourced-its-brains-to-the-us-refuses-to-end-hostility-wit.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp
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๐Ÿšจ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆICYMI, Zelensky: โ€œAs it regards to my resignation...To change me, it will not be easy because it is not enough to simply hold electionsโ€ฆyou'll have to negotiate with me. I'm exchangeable for NATO membership.โ€

More delusion. The US๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ under Trump has already said NATO membership for Ukraine will never happen because it was the reason the proxy war started in the first place.

The US runs NATO, and calls the shots. Talking about NATO membership at the kidsโ€™ table with the European vassals will achieve nothing. Zelensky is still hellbent on Ukrainian membership in NATO because it means de facto instant direct conflict between NATO and Russia in Ukraine, and World War 3.

By putting a non-starter on the table such as NATO membership for Ukraine in exchange for elections, Zelensky is just simply delaying calling elections so he can continue to be the Dictator of Ukraine.
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๐Ÿšจ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ธโ€œIt reflects the harsh reality that we have been enduring for decades and still persists as we call to stop the injustice and stop the ethnic cleansing of Palestineโ€

The film-makers of โ€˜No Other Landโ€™ accepting their #Oscars  last night
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๐Ÿšจ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธEUROPE WOULD BE โ€˜INSANEโ€™ TO UNDERMINE TRUMPโ€™S PEACE INITIATIVE WITH RUSSIA๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ

โ€˜There is so much talk in the West of how we canโ€™t trust the Russiansโ€ฆbut the Russians have at least equally good reason not to trust us, given the amount of agreements that the West has broken. But the Europeans would be insane to undermine a peace process in Ukraine because it really might leave the Europeans alone.โ€™

โ€˜I have been appalled by the lack of serious strategic thought in Europe. But as I say, theyโ€™re just not used to it. The British establishment for many years now, has been used to getting its orders from Washington, and in a sense, it is still obeying the orders of the last US Administration, without it seems still fully taking account of the fact that you have a very different US Administration.โ€™

-Prof. Anatol Lieven of the Quincy Institute slams the foreign policy of the UK and European nations on Going Underground

FULL INTERVIEW: https://rumble.com/v6pzwmy-ukraine-europe-outsourced-its-brains-to-the-us-refuses-to-end-hostility-wit.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp
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๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆTrump's Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard:

โ€œYou have the cancelling of elections in Ukraine, you have political parties being silenced or even criminalised, Churches are being shut down. Political opposition is silenced and there is total government control of the media.โ€

A clear case that Zelensky is the dictator of Ukraine.
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๐ŸšจHungaryโ€™s๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ PM Viktor Orban:

โ€˜Zelensky doesnโ€™t want peace, or at least he doesnโ€™t want peace on the terms the Americans are offering. Meanwhileโ€ฆUkraine is exhausted. Ukraine is on a ventilator. If the EU and the US donโ€™t give money, the Ukrainians wonโ€™t be able to fight, and the Ukrainian state wonโ€™t even be able to survive.โ€™
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UK๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง PM Sir Keir Starmer says military aid to Ukraine๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ will keep flowing, economic pressure on Russia will increase, and that there will be a โ€˜coalition of the willing.โ€™

It will be a Coalition of the Irrelevant on the multipolar worldโ€™s Island of Irrelevancy.
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๐ŸšจEUROPE PUT ITSELF ON A RAILWAY TRACK OF HOSTILITY TO RUSSIA๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ, INCAPABLE OF GETTING OFF IT

'If you're really unsure of future American support, that should be a motive to end the war in Ukraine๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ and reduce tension with Russia...Western academics like to prattle in a patronising fashion about path dependency of Russia, and path dependency of China, but you could hardly find a more path-dependent lot than the European foreign and security elites at the moment. They've put themselves on a railway track of towards hostility to Russia and they seem incapable of getting off it.'

-Prof. Anatol Lieven of the Quincy Institute slams UK and EU foreign policy, and discusses the Ukraine proxy war on Going Underground

FULL INTERVIEW: https://rumble.com/v6pzwmy-ukraine-europe-outsourced-its-brains-to-the-us-refuses-to-end-hostility-wit.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp
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๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆTrump SLAMS Zelensky in a new Truth Social post, after Zelensky said that the end of the war with Russia is 'very, very far away.'

Donald Trump said this is 'the worst statement that could have been made by Zelensky, and America will not put up with it for much longer!'
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๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บPROF. JEFFREY SACHS ON UKRAINE NEGOTIATIONS:

โ€œTrump doesnโ€™t even recognise Europe, why should they be at the negotiating table? Europe should have been negotiating but it said โ€˜no, we will never negotiateโ€™ until this moment.โ€
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๐Ÿšจ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆTrumpโ€™s National Security Advisor Mike Walz says there will be no minerals deal for Ukraine unless Zelensky apologies on camera for the way behaved in the Oval Office meeting

๐ŸšจNow Axios is reporting that Trump is considering SUSPENDING US military aid to Ukraine
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๐Ÿšจ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆOne simple bar graph shows why Europe is delusional to think they can keep the proxy war in Ukraine going without US๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ assistance .

The US has provided the overwhelming majority of the military and financial aid to Ukraine, none of the European countries even come close.

Europe has gutted its own industrial base, and has no serious defence-industrial base capable of replacing the amount of weaponry supplied by the United States.

Axios is now reporting that Donald Trump is considering freezing US military aid to Ukraine as the White House grows increasingly fed up of Zelenskyโ€™s efforts to keep the proxy war going.

Zelensky would be at best delusional, at worst stupid, to think European military aid could make a difference against Russia. If he had the best interests of the country at heart, he would recognise that Ukraine is losing land every day, is losing more soldiers every day, and its defensive lines in the East are on the brink of collapse.

An immediate ceasefire and the beginning of direct negotiations with Moscow alongside the US would save Ukraineโ€™s situation from getting any worse.

All this talk of โ€˜plansโ€™ made in London by the UK and European countries are simply irrelevant and are just performative pantomimes for domestic political audiences, trying to convince their own populations that theyโ€™re actually doing something of importance and not just complete vassals.

The reality is, they are vassals, and have been for decades by political choice. Whatever their โ€˜plansโ€™ or โ€˜demandsโ€™ are, Washington will toss them in the bin.
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๐Ÿšจ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆTRUMP ALLUDES TO ZELENSKY:

โ€˜Maybe somebody doesnโ€™t want to make a deal, and if that person doesnโ€™t want to make a deal, then that person wonโ€™t be around for very longโ€ฆbecause I believe Russia wants to make a deal, I believe the people of Ukraine want to make a deal.โ€™
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๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆTRUMP: โ€˜The money is less important than the deathsโ€™

Donald Trump is one of the only leaders in the US or Europe that is actually mourning the loss of young Ukrainian and Russian lives, and says thatโ€™s why he wants to bring the proxy war to an end.

While Europe wants to continue the failed proxy war to weaken Russia for as long as it takes, Trump wants to end the carnage and stop the bloodletting. This is why the world is taking the US under Trump seriously on Ukraine, and ignores the circus going on in Europe.
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๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ ALL US military aid to Ukraine has now been halted by Donald Trump

If Zelensky does not accept an immediate ceasefire to stop the bloodshed and loss of more land now, within a few weeks, Ukraineโ€™s defensive lines may completely collapse.
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๐ŸšจICYMI, Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ:

โ€˜Over the past 500 years, all tragedies in the world originated in Europe or occurred owing to European policies, colonisation, the Crusades, the Crimean War, Napoleon, WW1, Hitlerโ€ฆnow Europe says the [Ukraine] war must go on.โ€™
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EU๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ Foreign Policy Chief Kaja Kallas

โ€œIf youโ€™re saying that weโ€™re not able to pressure Russia๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ effectively so much that it would have an effect, how do you say youโ€™re able to take on the China๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ณ risk?โ€

Why are these clowns in Europe only interested in confrontation?
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EU๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ Commission President Ursula von der Leyen encourages member states to increase defence spending by 1.5% of GDP, and announces a โ‚ฌ150 billion loan package to EU states to raise defence spending.

In 2023, 94.6 million people in the EU faced poverty or social exclusion. While Trump talks disarmament and proposes a deal to Russia and China to slash military spending by half, the European Island of Irrelevancy in the multipolar world continues to be interested in confrontation.
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