Forwarded from /CIG/ Telegram | Counter Intelligence Global (Fren Bobbie)
๐บ๐ธ๐ฒ๐ฝโ๏ธ The secularization of American Latinos has been incredibly swift. In 2010 67% of US Latinos identified as Catholic & at least 84% as Christian. By 2022 only 43% identified as Catholics & only around 2/3rds identified as Christian.
โซ๏ธ Among young American Latinos/Hispanics irreligiously is even more pronounced. Half (49%) of Latinos aged 18-29 are religiously unaffiliated. English dominant Latinos are also far more likely to be unaffiliated than those who are Spanish dominant. Not huge partisan difference though.
โซ๏ธ This will have an obvious & continuing impact on American Hispanic fertility in the decades to come. US born Hispanics will see TFR fall to current Non Hispanic White levels of around 1.5-1.57. Foreign born Hispanic TFR will move to between 1.8-2.2
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โซ๏ธ Among young American Latinos/Hispanics irreligiously is even more pronounced. Half (49%) of Latinos aged 18-29 are religiously unaffiliated. English dominant Latinos are also far more likely to be unaffiliated than those who are Spanish dominant. Not huge partisan difference though.
โซ๏ธ This will have an obvious & continuing impact on American Hispanic fertility in the decades to come. US born Hispanics will see TFR fall to current Non Hispanic White levels of around 1.5-1.57. Foreign born Hispanic TFR will move to between 1.8-2.2
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Forwarded from /CIG/ Telegram | Counter Intelligence Global (FRANCISCVS)
โ๏ธ ๐บ๐ธ ๐ฃ The impact of religion on fertility is amazing | Louise Perry
โฌ๏ธ Something I learnt today:
๐ถ๏ธ American Catholics in general have a total fertility rate of 2.3.
๐ถ๏ธ But American Catholics who attend Latin Mass have a TFR of 3.6! More than TWICE the national average!
๐ Louise Perry
โฌ๏ธ Something I learnt today:
๐ถ๏ธ American Catholics in general have a total fertility rate of 2.3.
๐ถ๏ธ But American Catholics who attend Latin Mass have a TFR of 3.6! More than TWICE the national average!
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Demographics Now and Then
High rates of childlessness does not necessarily equal lower fertility rates. Eastern Europe had much lower rates of childlessness than Western Europe yet places like Ireland (with one of the highest rates of childlessness in Europe)have some of Europeโsโฆ
In East Asia the link between high childlessness and lower TFR is much more direct. As you can see childlessness in Hong Kong, Japan & Singapore are higher than anywhere in Europe and the graphs on the right show South Korea & Taiwan will probably overtake them.
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Unlike most of Europe (where some countries did not even enjoy any true postwar baby boom at all) the United States was blessed with not 1 but 2 baby boom sized cohorts. The 1st from 1946-1964. The 2nd Gen Z from 1997-2012 (lower TFR but huge # of births). There will almost certainly not be a third. While births may very well rebound to the 3.7-3.9 million range it is highly doubtful that America will have any more near decade long stretches of 4M plus births. If very lucky the US will keep TFR above 1.5. This is said not out of pessimism but rather out of recognition of the data.
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Marriage numbers have crashed across East Asia. This is crucially important as less than 5% of births are outside of wedlock in South Korea,Taiwan & Japan. The % is also low in China. This differs sharply with Europe & North America where ~40% or more of births are outside marriage.
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Czechia births: The drop, which started in 2022,continues. Only 69,219 births were recorded from January to September 2023 against the same period last year. A stunning 11% year on year fall. After hitting just 101,299 in 2022, births in 2024 will be โฌ๏ธ100K for the 1st time since 2004. TFR is likely to fall below 1.45.
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A major component of US strategy to counter the Peopleโs Republic of China depends on its alliances with Japan & South Korea. However, both countries have far worse demographics than China. Japan has now been below replacement since 1974 & South Korea since 1983. The PRC only fell below replacement in 1992.
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Many publications (such as The Economist) argue that mass immigration will fix such a population pyramid. I would argue that it does not โfixโ anything. It just prolongs the (likely) inevitable. What it will do is eliminate the one thing making Japan unique. Being modern without being western.
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Belarus has a double threat of high emigration since 2020 (up to 200K have emigrated over the past three years) & very low births (only 73,906 recorded in 2022). Recent policies to restrict emigration are thus seen as essential to the govt to avoid collapse. https://t.co/e1TvvsFixh
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Thereโs a myth of high Muslim TFR in Russia & particularly in the Kavkaz area. As this map shows, Chechnya (population only~1.5M) is the only one with high TFR+the only one above replacement. Even Ingushetia+Dagestan are far below. Biggest Muslims groups (Tatar+Bashkirs) much lower. While Chechen, Ingush, Avar etc fertility is higher than for ethnic Russians these groups have very small populations and (as mentioned above) only Chechens above replacement. Slavic Orthodox Christians unlikely to ever be below 75% of the Russian population.
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Interesting chart. With just early 2020s level immigration the US population would get to 404M by 2060. If immigration were cut BY HALF from those numbers we would still get to ~355M before leveling off & falling to 354M by 2060. Mass migration could conceivably push to 450M. Most policymakers in Congress & related think tanks find the 450 million U.S. future most appealing. This is because they believe this is the only way to continue paying for entitlement programs without cuts. Many also believe that being a country of 450M vs one of 404M makes the country far more powerful.
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Demographics Now and Then
Interesting chart. With just early 2020s level immigration the US population would get to 404M by 2060. If immigration were cut BY HALF from those numbers we would still get to ~355M before leveling off & falling to 354M by 2060. Mass migration could conceivablyโฆ
It remains to be seen whether or not there will be an sober & honest debate about which path the US should follow. There are clear arguments for an America of 354M one of 404M & one of 450M. American deserve more say in what path we ultimately choose not elites choosing for them. Mass immigration would have major consequences and could cause even larger pension & other problems down the road.
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