In fairness to Mike Lindell his plan contains some really good details. Reading up on it and will post highlights later.
However a huge amount of people are already pissed heโs even opening the door for those already here to just stay.
Butโฆ letโs hear him out. Be back in a couple hours.
However a huge amount of people are already pissed heโs even opening the door for those already here to just stay.
Butโฆ letโs hear him out. Be back in a couple hours.
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Gonna share some deliberately different and even contradictory takes on this from different people, all of whom I consider to be reasonable.
But first... here is the post directly from Mike Lindell's own X account. Oh yeah, he got flamed so hard for using the word "Amnesty" that he ended up deleting the post.
But first... here is the post directly from Mike Lindell's own X account. Oh yeah, he got flamed so hard for using the word "Amnesty" that he ended up deleting the post.
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Lindell reposted this post which did a better job explaining Lindell's proposal... than Lindell himself did.
It does have some good points. Lindell's proposal wasn't 100% shit.
It does have some good points. Lindell's proposal wasn't 100% shit.
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Awakened Outlaws take on it.
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My reaction on this is mixed.
Lindell does have a few good points, however he is the one who used the word "Amnesty" and then this blew up, and I don't think he will ever fully succeed in walking this back. I think he just lost 25% of his support (at least), so people will never even understand his good points.
Now, a controversial opinion that is gonna get me flamed a bit... I think there are some illegals worthy of compassion, who learn English, who truly integrate... who were lied to by our leaders and lured here. I am NOT eager to look Jesus in the eye and say I treated them the same as the gang bangers & dirty criminal scum who also came across the same border the same way.
Messy issue that maybe only Jesus can fix, but I support finding a way to treat good families who INTEGRATED different than the flood who came in recent years.
Nevertheless, the Will of the People is sacred and must be upheld by their government. If the majority of U.S. citizens say "Sorry, no this shit went too far and they all need to go back. The good ones can apply to come back if they voluntarily self-deport"... THEN SO BE IT, and I will support that.
Lindell does have a few good points, however he is the one who used the word "Amnesty" and then this blew up, and I don't think he will ever fully succeed in walking this back. I think he just lost 25% of his support (at least), so people will never even understand his good points.
Now, a controversial opinion that is gonna get me flamed a bit... I think there are some illegals worthy of compassion, who learn English, who truly integrate... who were lied to by our leaders and lured here. I am NOT eager to look Jesus in the eye and say I treated them the same as the gang bangers & dirty criminal scum who also came across the same border the same way.
Messy issue that maybe only Jesus can fix, but I support finding a way to treat good families who INTEGRATED different than the flood who came in recent years.
Nevertheless, the Will of the People is sacred and must be upheld by their government. If the majority of U.S. citizens say "Sorry, no this shit went too far and they all need to go back. The good ones can apply to come back if they voluntarily self-deport"... THEN SO BE IT, and I will support that.
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If you've followed me for years you've occasionally heard me say things like the CIA did bad stuff "in our name and without our consent".
This goes for Congress too. They abused their power and did many things we never agreed to... but do we truly get off with no spiritual burden at all when we collectively KNEW they were corrupt for decades and doing terrible things and collectively we didn't find the WILL and organize to stop them?
I truly don't know if we can look God in the eye and say we have zero spiritual responsibility for all of the things done by our government. Thank God for Jesus who has full power to absolve in such matters... but I still have compassion for those harmed and taken advantage of by our leaders for many years.
The people who came illegally need to self-deport and apply to come back.
They people doing it right and waiting to come here legally deserve a chance to come first.
And yet it has gone on so long there are genuinely MANY people who were brought here as kids by their parents, are now grown, who are stranded by the whole situation. They don't belong here, but they also have nowhere to go.
Individually I have no blame, yet somehow collectively the American people are responsible for what they allowed their leaders to do.
We have at times been a wicked nation that forgot God, which is how we ended up in a situation where He is needed to "heal our land". Be careful when requesting full amnesty for our own faults, while demanding absolute justice for others. I don't think Heaven works that way. People wiser than me MUST come up with a solution that includes compassion for those who did no wrong (like illegal kids who grew up and are stranded). In my experience God is just as generous with me as I am with others.
Wisdom, Compassion, Law, and Redemption must all find a way to coexist.
This goes for Congress too. They abused their power and did many things we never agreed to... but do we truly get off with no spiritual burden at all when we collectively KNEW they were corrupt for decades and doing terrible things and collectively we didn't find the WILL and organize to stop them?
I truly don't know if we can look God in the eye and say we have zero spiritual responsibility for all of the things done by our government. Thank God for Jesus who has full power to absolve in such matters... but I still have compassion for those harmed and taken advantage of by our leaders for many years.
The people who came illegally need to self-deport and apply to come back.
They people doing it right and waiting to come here legally deserve a chance to come first.
And yet it has gone on so long there are genuinely MANY people who were brought here as kids by their parents, are now grown, who are stranded by the whole situation. They don't belong here, but they also have nowhere to go.
Individually I have no blame, yet somehow collectively the American people are responsible for what they allowed their leaders to do.
We have at times been a wicked nation that forgot God, which is how we ended up in a situation where He is needed to "heal our land". Be careful when requesting full amnesty for our own faults, while demanding absolute justice for others. I don't think Heaven works that way. People wiser than me MUST come up with a solution that includes compassion for those who did no wrong (like illegal kids who grew up and are stranded). In my experience God is just as generous with me as I am with others.
Wisdom, Compassion, Law, and Redemption must all find a way to coexist.
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Do the American people have some collective responsibility for the state we ended up in, or can the blame simply be shifted to corrupt leaders?
Be careful, I truly don't think the answer from the Spirit is ever "you were powerless". When we find a way to work WITH the Spirit we are unstoppable, for Nothing is Impossible with God.
God allows us to experience society swinging back & forth, forgetting Him and then turning back, so we can learn. The process of learning does NOT mean always escaping consequences that could have been avoided.
Be careful, I truly don't think the answer from the Spirit is ever "you were powerless". When we find a way to work WITH the Spirit we are unstoppable, for Nothing is Impossible with God.
God allows us to experience society swinging back & forth, forgetting Him and then turning back, so we can learn. The process of learning does NOT mean always escaping consequences that could have been avoided.
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It's funny to me that somebody found that last message offensive.
Clown & middle finger guy... are you struggling with consequences in your life that you are desperate to believe you can do nothing about, or is the idea we are responsible for how our own nation ends up... offensive?
When you come to actually know God, the partnership is a great source of both power and love, but it always involves some willingness to face reality that we can and should do better at times than we have done.
I think that's true as individuals... and as a nation on the brink of turning one way or the other.
Clown & middle finger guy... are you struggling with consequences in your life that you are desperate to believe you can do nothing about, or is the idea we are responsible for how our own nation ends up... offensive?
When you come to actually know God, the partnership is a great source of both power and love, but it always involves some willingness to face reality that we can and should do better at times than we have done.
I think that's true as individuals... and as a nation on the brink of turning one way or the other.
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Forwarded from TruthHammer ๐๐บ๐ธ (DM's & Channel Spam are FAKERS.) (TruthHammer888)
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The Awakening that God has started is bigger than America and bigger than Trump. Not even Trump could stop it at this point. WWG1WGA. First in the U.S., so it's power can be used to reverse the loss of freedom worldwide (instead of continuing past regimes use of CIA to destabilize and control). "Half a savior / half a liar" speaks to the beauty we'd like to gift the world, and the sadness this nation has sometimes caused without our consent. Will this be the final chapter in turning it around? Are we a year from the grave or is this just the beginning?
The hearts of the People will decide, by choosing God or not. Everything else is noise.
The hearts of the People will decide, by choosing God or not. Everything else is noise.
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Illegal comes over with children 3, 4 & 5 years old.
15 years later the kids are illegal, but fully assimilated, and the parents are gone. (Crime, Illness, deathโฆ doesnโt matter Iโm just making a point). The โkidsโ are now 18 to 20 years old, and donโt know their โhome countryโ.
After 20 plus years of immigration abuse by both political parties allowing it so their donors could have cheap laborโฆ I think there are likely a million people here who never chose to come. They were minors. Some of them have living parents, some donโt.
If a kid, now adult, is stranded or abusedโฆ I do not support โraw justice take them to the border and push them to the other side.โ
I want mercy from God, not justice, and IMO the Spirit demands the same from me to others in a case like the one Iโm describing. For the stranded/alone/abused.
For anyone who came here as an ADULT, I say boot them all. And send their kids with them. Families together (unless the kids have real reason to fear their familyโฆ some were rented out by parents).
Let justice be proportionate to the agency/choice that was made, and mercy for the innocent caught up in it.
After much reflection, this is my position.
15 years later the kids are illegal, but fully assimilated, and the parents are gone. (Crime, Illness, deathโฆ doesnโt matter Iโm just making a point). The โkidsโ are now 18 to 20 years old, and donโt know their โhome countryโ.
After 20 plus years of immigration abuse by both political parties allowing it so their donors could have cheap laborโฆ I think there are likely a million people here who never chose to come. They were minors. Some of them have living parents, some donโt.
If a kid, now adult, is stranded or abusedโฆ I do not support โraw justice take them to the border and push them to the other side.โ
I want mercy from God, not justice, and IMO the Spirit demands the same from me to others in a case like the one Iโm describing. For the stranded/alone/abused.
For anyone who came here as an ADULT, I say boot them all. And send their kids with them. Families together (unless the kids have real reason to fear their familyโฆ some were rented out by parents).
Let justice be proportionate to the agency/choice that was made, and mercy for the innocent caught up in it.
After much reflection, this is my position.
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Feel free to disagree with others and me in this channel. People have done it 1,000s of times and are still here with one of the best comments communities on Telegram.
YOU lose your shit and cross the line into nasty behavior, and lie about what I or others believe or are sayingโฆ and YOU are the problem and will be removed.
This channel has always had a no-assholes policy.
I have learned a LOT from thoughtful sincere disagreement, and appreciate that kind of interaction.
YOU lose your shit and cross the line into nasty behavior, and lie about what I or others believe or are sayingโฆ and YOU are the problem and will be removed.
This channel has always had a no-assholes policy.
I have learned a LOT from thoughtful sincere disagreement, and appreciate that kind of interaction.
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Forwarded from Jay-Q
Gotta agree here. We can agree that as a child they had no say. But the fact that the literal plan from the enemy is just this, replacing americans with generational foreigners, cannot be overlooked.
Each child, in the scenario proposed by truth hammer, should be evaluated at a whole and removed just like their parents were/should have been, if they do not meet the requirements to come here in the first place.
Our nation and our kids take priority. Simple.
Each child, in the scenario proposed by truth hammer, should be evaluated at a whole and removed just like their parents were/should have been, if they do not meet the requirements to come here in the first place.
Our nation and our kids take priority. Simple.
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๐ Jay-Q shows a great example of how to share a different opinion.
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Respectfully, some of yโall are NOT prepared for what Trump is gonna do on this topic. He is not operating on your hardline approach.
Crunch the numbers. People are not being removed at that rate. Heโs on track to remove the worst 20% who are responsible for almost 100% of the crime (besides the immigration itself).
I donโt know his full mind on the subject, but I can do the math and see the trend.
Crunch the numbers. People are not being removed at that rate. Heโs on track to remove the worst 20% who are responsible for almost 100% of the crime (besides the immigration itself).
I donโt know his full mind on the subject, but I can do the math and see the trend.
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Lindell yesterday vs today. On the left is the post he deleted from his X account.
Campaign blunder. He should have come right out and said using that word was a mistake, instead of calling it fake news.
๐โSorry, bad word choice, here is what I really thinkโฆโ
Campaign blunder. He should have come right out and said using that word was a mistake, instead of calling it fake news.
๐โSorry, bad word choice, here is what I really thinkโฆโ
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