Motivation vs Demonstration
Today with Claire Byrne
TD Paul Murphy also took issue with a “demonstration test” being used to prove hate crime offences rather than a “motivation test” which is used in the majority of countries with hate crime legislation.
Murphy said that in the UK the consequence of a demonstration test is disproportionate convictions for 'people of colour' which he blamed on systemic racism by the police who wish to enhance the penalty for suspects using something uttered in the heat of the moment.
Seamus Taylor, Head of the Dept of Applied Social Studies in Maynooth University, and the migrant-focused NGO Nasc had argued for the inclusion of the demonstration test in the legislation as they said having to prove beyond a reasonable doubt the motivation of the accused was “too high” and would lead to low prosecution levels.
They told the justice committee that relying solely on the motivational test is about 'getting into the mind of the perpetrator' rather than evidence of demonstrated hostility,” before, during or after any incident.
Murphy said that in the UK the consequence of a demonstration test is disproportionate convictions for 'people of colour' which he blamed on systemic racism by the police who wish to enhance the penalty for suspects using something uttered in the heat of the moment.
Seamus Taylor, Head of the Dept of Applied Social Studies in Maynooth University, and the migrant-focused NGO Nasc had argued for the inclusion of the demonstration test in the legislation as they said having to prove beyond a reasonable doubt the motivation of the accused was “too high” and would lead to low prosecution levels.
They told the justice committee that relying solely on the motivational test is about 'getting into the mind of the perpetrator' rather than evidence of demonstrated hostility,” before, during or after any incident.
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Ireland is one Europe's largest data-centre hubs serving all of big tech and they want to make it illegal for any one of their servers to contain content transgressing an ill-defined concept of 'hate'.
I don't think they thought this through.
I don't think they thought this through.
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United Against Racism using Ballaghderreen and Ballyhaunis as examples of towns which have been 'rejuvenated by migrants' to hit back at a Mayo County Council motion seeking to halt any further settlement of asylum seekers in the county is not quite the persuasion tactic they think it is.
🔗 con-telegraph.ie
🔗 con-telegraph.ie
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Forwarded from The Burkean
How Musk Could Take Ireland to Task Over Hate Speech Legislation
https://www.theburkean.ie/articles/2023/05/01/how-musk-could-take-ireland-to-task-over-hate-speech-legislation
https://www.theburkean.ie/articles/2023/05/01/how-musk-could-take-ireland-to-task-over-hate-speech-legislation
The Burkean
How Musk Could Take Ireland to Task Over Hate Speech Legislation | The Burkean
Twitter’s Fenian Street HQ was a powerful place to be in the mid to late 2010s. The cockpit of the social media giant’s European operations, a generation of activists that came of age during the 2015 Marriage Referendum accrued immense […]
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Forwarded from Derek Blighe
Western road, Cork city. Dozens of young males dropped at the Blarney stone, Luxury accomodation today lunchtime. They gathered outside as the inside was full of those being processed.
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A whistleblower who works in the Housing Assistance Payments scheme says NGOs are coaching foreigners as soon as they land about how to access housing payments, according to irelandisfull.com
While Irish people have to submit to a background check on their financials to apply for HAP, the whistleblower says foreigners can easily game the vetting process as the authorities can't check their financial background or if they own property in other countries, and that there is no facility for fraud investigation.
Many of them have become hostile while lecturing the whistleblower about their entitlements and would plainly state they came to Ireland for their free money and free house.
🔗 irelandisfull.com
While Irish people have to submit to a background check on their financials to apply for HAP, the whistleblower says foreigners can easily game the vetting process as the authorities can't check their financial background or if they own property in other countries, and that there is no facility for fraud investigation.
Many of them have become hostile while lecturing the whistleblower about their entitlements and would plainly state they came to Ireland for their free money and free house.
🔗 irelandisfull.com
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Blood Boiling
Red FM
Cork woman says her blood is boiling after listening to a Ukrainian mother who says she was kicked out of the Old Imperial Hotel in Youghal for objecting to the food being served, believing it to be frozen and "not made with love". She had asked the hotelier to employ a Ukrainian chef.
Despite the food, she told Red FM that she does not intend to move back to Ukraine ever as Ireland is a nice country for raising children, but she would like Youghal to become as developed as Odessa.
She is working on a plan to open a business finding employment opportunities for Ukrainians in Ireland.
The hotel owner called in afterwards, said none of the food is frozen and it's exactly the same grub served to customers at his restaurant which everyone else loves. He doesn't serve pizza except when some Ukrainians buy it in themselves to cook as a snack.
He said the woman was abusing staff and was given a third warning but left voluntarily to the Quality Hotel in Redbarn.
🔗 redfm.ie (at 21 mins)
👉🏻 Late Stage Ireland
Despite the food, she told Red FM that she does not intend to move back to Ukraine ever as Ireland is a nice country for raising children, but she would like Youghal to become as developed as Odessa.
She is working on a plan to open a business finding employment opportunities for Ukrainians in Ireland.
The hotel owner called in afterwards, said none of the food is frozen and it's exactly the same grub served to customers at his restaurant which everyone else loves. He doesn't serve pizza except when some Ukrainians buy it in themselves to cook as a snack.
He said the woman was abusing staff and was given a third warning but left voluntarily to the Quality Hotel in Redbarn.
🔗 redfm.ie (at 21 mins)
👉🏻 Late Stage Ireland
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African gang stabbed Tallaght teens
Opinions Matter
A Tallaght mother has told the Opinions Matter podcast that her autistic son was stabbed by an African gang last December, but the media were not interested in the story despite it being racially motivated.
Sinéad said her 14-year-old son was hanging out with three friends in a local park when 22 Africans entered the park and started asking "who's looking for it?" before jumping them. The boys had hoped they'd go away if they didn't respond to the taunts.
Her son, who only recently started socialising outside, was stabbed once while one of his friends was stabbed twice and another had his jacket slashed while the gang called them white trash, white scumbags and dirty white cunts.
A garda later told the mother that the same gang has been travelling the Luas line for the last few months attacking random white teenagers.
Adrian Kennedy doubted the attack was racially motivated but the mother further told him that the mixed race boy they were with was left unharmed.
🔗 goloudnow.com
👉🏻 Late Stage Ireland
Sinéad said her 14-year-old son was hanging out with three friends in a local park when 22 Africans entered the park and started asking "who's looking for it?" before jumping them. The boys had hoped they'd go away if they didn't respond to the taunts.
Her son, who only recently started socialising outside, was stabbed once while one of his friends was stabbed twice and another had his jacket slashed while the gang called them white trash, white scumbags and dirty white cunts.
A garda later told the mother that the same gang has been travelling the Luas line for the last few months attacking random white teenagers.
Adrian Kennedy doubted the attack was racially motivated but the mother further told him that the mixed race boy they were with was left unharmed.
🔗 goloudnow.com
👉🏻 Late Stage Ireland
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🚨 Community Alert for Waterford
A mother says she was walking out of the People's Park in Waterford with some of her kids a few steps behind her.
She stopped to look at something but when she turned around she saw a foreign man had picked up her 1-year-old daughter and was attempting to walk away with her.
The mother shouted at the man and he asked her if she was the the girl's mother but subsequently claimed he could speak no English.
🔗 facebook.com
A mother says she was walking out of the People's Park in Waterford with some of her kids a few steps behind her.
She stopped to look at something but when she turned around she saw a foreign man had picked up her 1-year-old daughter and was attempting to walk away with her.
The mother shouted at the man and he asked her if she was the the girl's mother but subsequently claimed he could speak no English.
🔗 facebook.com
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🚨 Community Alert for Limerick.
A mother says she was in the People's Park in Limerick with her sister and daughter when two foreign men approached them just as they were leaving.
One of the men then started caressing her daughter's face, trying to persuade the girl to go with him.
The mother says she grabbed her daughter and they took off but the men tried following them for some time.
Other mothers are reporting similar incidents in the replies and say they no longer use the park as it's so full of men now.
🔗 facebook.com
A mother says she was in the People's Park in Limerick with her sister and daughter when two foreign men approached them just as they were leaving.
One of the men then started caressing her daughter's face, trying to persuade the girl to go with him.
The mother says she grabbed her daughter and they took off but the men tried following them for some time.
Other mothers are reporting similar incidents in the replies and say they no longer use the park as it's so full of men now.
🔗 facebook.com
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