Wednesday to Thursday 2021-10-14
#Official_Elecions :
Dan Larimer initiated a rich discussion regarding language proficiency among candidates in the Eden Elections. The first EdenOnEOS is as all know an English language community and here some of Dan's words initiating these discussions.
"Eden members, just a heads up, as we incorporate the lessons from this first election I want to call out that being a fluent english speaker is key in order to communicate your ideas to your representative and for your representative to be able to understand and represent you."
Comments followed from many members and in many facets. Here below just a few samples. Future will tell how this will be dealt with.
- "To me one of the primary goals of what we're doing here is building a community of communities all aligned around the EOS blockchain. If you agree with this then we as the inaugural, English only version of an Eden should be as open and welcoming as possible to the entire EOS community, regardless of their absolute fluency in English. What if they have a strong accent, or speech impediment, or are a little slower in English, especially when nervous? Where do we draw the line?"
- "Considering that fluency most matters in the election where it is reasonable to suggest a minimum level of English is required, why don't we try to create an opportunity between now and the next election for the majority of these other language community members to have their own version of Eden to transfer to?"
- "Sounds like we may have multiple "Edens" on EOS very soon."
- "Another option might be something like an "observer" status that allows the community to get to know each other, and learn about how to implement this process elsewhere, but that doesn't allow for participation in the english speaking elections?"
- DAN LARIMER: ""I suppose I am ok with non English members so long as they don’t register for the election until they speak community language well enough to pass approval of a random selection of members""
- "Just a suggestion. Wouldn't it simplify matters if the registration process included 'first language' and 'secondary languages' so that we can track how many members there are with the same first language? The secondary language field can be used to include people whose first language is not English, but the first language field would indicate when it might be time to start holding elections specifically for those language speakers."
- "Healthy questions and debate are important to refine the ideas and process itself, which includes socially accepted best practices in elections."
#Official_Elections_RSVP :
The level of "no shows" at the elections, despite registration and many words on the RSVP system, also commented on by Dan Larimer. His words copied here below and initiated a discussion on how move forward to improve this part of elections.
"" We had an RSVP system for the election for a reason, so that members who cannot participate can opt-out without risking their standing in the community. A number of groups were below capacity as a result of a 30+ people not showing up despite registering. Going forward I am proposing a bylaw that will charge anyone who registers but fails to show up a fine of 10 EOS. Failure to pay the fine for failure to show after registering will be grounds to have membership status revoked. Our individual actions impact the entire group and we must be accountable to our word. Very few people should have last minute emergencies that prevent them from updating their registration in the last 24 hours. I will investigate reducing that time to 12 hours so that we have sufficient randomness to secure the election but give members maximum opportunity to update their word on whether they can and will attend. We will work on tools to notify and remind people. ""
#Official_Elecions :
Dan Larimer initiated a rich discussion regarding language proficiency among candidates in the Eden Elections. The first EdenOnEOS is as all know an English language community and here some of Dan's words initiating these discussions.
"Eden members, just a heads up, as we incorporate the lessons from this first election I want to call out that being a fluent english speaker is key in order to communicate your ideas to your representative and for your representative to be able to understand and represent you."
Comments followed from many members and in many facets. Here below just a few samples. Future will tell how this will be dealt with.
- "To me one of the primary goals of what we're doing here is building a community of communities all aligned around the EOS blockchain. If you agree with this then we as the inaugural, English only version of an Eden should be as open and welcoming as possible to the entire EOS community, regardless of their absolute fluency in English. What if they have a strong accent, or speech impediment, or are a little slower in English, especially when nervous? Where do we draw the line?"
- "Considering that fluency most matters in the election where it is reasonable to suggest a minimum level of English is required, why don't we try to create an opportunity between now and the next election for the majority of these other language community members to have their own version of Eden to transfer to?"
- "Sounds like we may have multiple "Edens" on EOS very soon."
- "Another option might be something like an "observer" status that allows the community to get to know each other, and learn about how to implement this process elsewhere, but that doesn't allow for participation in the english speaking elections?"
- DAN LARIMER: ""I suppose I am ok with non English members so long as they don’t register for the election until they speak community language well enough to pass approval of a random selection of members""
- "Just a suggestion. Wouldn't it simplify matters if the registration process included 'first language' and 'secondary languages' so that we can track how many members there are with the same first language? The secondary language field can be used to include people whose first language is not English, but the first language field would indicate when it might be time to start holding elections specifically for those language speakers."
- "Healthy questions and debate are important to refine the ideas and process itself, which includes socially accepted best practices in elections."
#Official_Elections_RSVP :
The level of "no shows" at the elections, despite registration and many words on the RSVP system, also commented on by Dan Larimer. His words copied here below and initiated a discussion on how move forward to improve this part of elections.
"" We had an RSVP system for the election for a reason, so that members who cannot participate can opt-out without risking their standing in the community. A number of groups were below capacity as a result of a 30+ people not showing up despite registering. Going forward I am proposing a bylaw that will charge anyone who registers but fails to show up a fine of 10 EOS. Failure to pay the fine for failure to show after registering will be grounds to have membership status revoked. Our individual actions impact the entire group and we must be accountable to our word. Very few people should have last minute emergencies that prevent them from updating their registration in the last 24 hours. I will investigate reducing that time to 12 hours so that we have sufficient randomness to secure the election but give members maximum opportunity to update their word on whether they can and will attend. We will work on tools to notify and remind people. ""