#Recap Eden Members telegram group - 7 days Saturday to Friday 2022-01-21

#Eden_Landbuy :
This post lead to very active wide-ranging discussion, in part fuelled by post copied below the link.
"" This is a pretty cool DAO concept:
https://twitter.com/alliancedao/status/1481633395834712065 ""
"" Well they have one very important thing right and that is that the end of nation states is already in motion. People are going to begin forming their own transnational communities and ultimately claim sovereignty. There’s no longer the same need for violence to protect your assets or procure access to natural resources for manufacturing. Virtual states are the next evolutionary step. ""

#Consortium :
A member pushed for blockchain polling app to be used and suggested this product, already earlier set up for Eden.
"" Updated list the free tokens received when sign up and vote on poll in Consortium! https://app.consortium.vote/claim ""

#EOS_Community:
Eden Members poll - % from Saturday 2022-01-22.
""Do you think we need a way for the Eden / EOS community to vote and come to consensus on important topics?
- Yes of course - 79%
- No not bothered - 21% ""

Good discussion ensued, input also from Dan Larimer.

#GDPR-Europe :
A rich and lengthy discussion was held about EU’s data protection laws and how it might impact on Eden output/uploads in public domain.

#Eden_Facebook :
"" Hey everyone, we've recently gained control of the EOS Facebook Group! https://twitter.com/EOS_Bees/status/1483069200381972480?s=20 ""

#EdenOS_Updates :
"" EdenOS Roadmap & Progress Report - With Brandon Fancher and Mike Manfredi - Streamed live on 14 Dec 2021: https://youtu.be/TvJtVDh4Zd8 ""

#EOSIO_EOS_future :
""Collaborative Vision Forward for EOS with Dan Larimer and Yves La Rose (Part 1 of 3) - Premiered 19 Jan 2022: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpIp_EOtcyE ""

#Eden_Delegates_Meeting :
"" Chief Delegate Meeting #13 - 20 Jan 2022:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YN6Yw-QqvuA ""

#EOS_Community :
Just in case you missed it - live only EOS Community Fireside chats on Discord. Every Wednesday 20:00 UTC. ""Weekly EOS Community "open Mic" Session. All topics welcome! (no recording, no streaming).

#EdenOnEOS : This topic below was kind of ending the 7 days of discussion in Eden Members group, I deemed a good way also end this recap. Just few snippets on the "Why joined?".
"" Why did you, I and everyone else generally become members? We need to make it clear ….. The Fractal governance is key in changing and improving our world step by step in business, education , politics , authority’s, governments everywhere. ""

- "" I joined to observe the experiment first hand, so i won't have to trust anyone opinion if it works or not""
- "" +1 ""
- "" Its about EOS..., Dans Book is not. ""
- "" In one sentence I would say its about establishing trust and connections - including the election process. ""
- "" I will add the opportunity to participate in fractal governance and have a voice in the EOS community. ""

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#Recap Eden Members telegram group - 7 days Saturday to Friday 2022-01-28

#Author_Comments : 1
Started use acronyms in front of copied posts when deemed helpful. Is not always so but at times worthwhile. Member words then indicated as "M" and if deemed further helpful might be as M, M1, M2 etc to distinguish words by additional members. Keep in mind only a fraction of posts in Eden Member group are shown in these recaps.

#Account_Recovery :
-Member (M) - "Is the Eden Account Recovery Process already usable? I would like to do it."
-Clarion team (CT) - "No"
-M - "Can you say when it will be possible?"
-CT - "The team is very busy on 2 fronts, Mandel and planning Eden v2. After Mandel releases we'll take a look at adding a temporary recovery process."

#Metaverse : a post also in the Eden group and saw discussion at length:
M - "Guys I just had a brainwave let me know what you think? There is huge money being spent on virtual land on the Metaverse atm and my thinking went into Eden 2.0 . . "

#VC : (acronym for Venture Capitalist) interesting post but not much comments:
M - "What I think EdenOnEOS 1.0 should be contemplating is how we can organize a VC division to explore developing or porting over people working on ideas we see have potential."

#Negative_to_Positive : lengthy discussion after first post below:
-M - "I've been watching the pain within the Korean community along with everyone else, and I'm wondering whether they have even had a chance to use the Eden software? I think the best thing Eden 1.0 can do is to fund the various localizations that we've committed to. If there is a desire to have a Korean Eden, is the software in their language? (I'm asking)".
-M1 - "I think it would be a great gesture if our community could take the open source work Clarion has done and create a workflow with which we could create any localization. Chinese, Japanese, Spanish, Russian... just a few possible targets."
-M2 - "This is a great idea as well, maybe set up bounties?"
-M3 - "Without the main eden having a purpose, goal, and direction. Any other eden that branches of would most likely have some problems."
-M1 - "I just think it would be tragic to see the first iteration of the Eden software left on the shelf. We all had such a great experience using it, and I would love to see it shared now with the world. We all know Clarion just wants to see the technique spread too, and they are just overwhelmed with all the other things they've taken on. I think Eden had the ability to take their ball and run with it now!"
-M2 - "Eden 2.0 is going to be differ in from 1.0, I think we have different use cases, and therefore would be against disbanding when/if the time comes where a vote comes up..."

#EOS_Emigration : one recent migration EOS>ETH saw various comments, here just one:
- "Projects go where the money is, period. That’s Eth’s only advantage and it’s enough to keep them in a dominant position. There’s a plan in the works to create a Consensys-like organization which would support all EOSIO chains.
The funds would first go to fund the core codebase development and then if support grows enough there would be VC type funding available."

#Crowdfunding : An idea posted and discussed.
- "Seems like a decentralized go fund me is needed. Is there any way we could leverage what bytemaster7 is making with DAC and pomelo to empower any community to raise money? Each “go fund me” project is a DAC. This build on EOS would make it censorship resistant. Just trying to bring ideas to the community. You could get NFTs for donating."

#Chief_Delegates_Meet : Eden 1 - Chief Delegate Meeting #14, 26 Jan 2022.
https://youtu.be/WVMJ2faD8SE

#Marketing :
M - "Please give us some feedback on this, those of you who are watching the Chief Delegate meetings (or those who aren't)... This 'condensation' process takes out dead air, ums/ahs, redundancy and off-topic jibber jabber. The long format will always be available, but these condensed versions shave off a significant amount of time, hopefully without losing too much content.

There's also an audio file exported, and I'm wondering if these should be released as an audio podcast too? Would you listen to them, any podcast users out there?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNVhF7B1Yr0
This process can also be used when we have loads of content, in the form of weekly Eden 2.0 conversations... there will so much content about EOS coming out this year, and we need to get it built into coherent chunks. (Loving the idea of an 8 minute #rant as an optimal method of sharing ideas)"

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#Bylaws 2 :
- M - "With so much in flux I see this as an opportunity to redefine what this Eden on EOS community's purpose is. "
- M1 - "" I will preface my response by using a quote from @BigBeardSamurai. “We are building live. The process is happening in real time.” The plane is in flight and we are changing its engine and it’s body parts. To do it successfully, we have to know all the moving parts first. I quote.” There is no magic wand to solve all the issues— calculated risk with long term solutions are a must. Eden is a DAO let’s work on eden and it’s flaws. Let’s get some bylaws, some mission statements position it so that someday the sortition winner can sit at the table where the discussion of the network as a whole is taking place (ENF stage). The bylaws should make it clear what elections are for and why elections and the budget etc. ""

#Chief_Delegates_Meet : #15 posted 2022-02-03
This is meeting #15 of the EdenOnEOS weekly Chief Delegates. Sorry this took so long everyone. We're trying out a new production flow and had some hiccups this week. We'll make sure at least the rough cut is posted asap from here on out.
https://youtu.be/39dG69fQ05Y

#Chief_Delegates_Meet : #16 posted 2022-02-04 - "The CDs had our 16th meeting this evening and discussed a few items that have come up recently, namely our community's bylaws and ideas around the purpose of our Eden1.0 and what possibilities exist. The full meeting can be found here: https://youtu.be/zuiYZDt1LzM

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#Recap Eden Members telegram group - 7 days Saturday to Friday 2022-02-11

#Author_Comments: With so much going on in our community it is good to see some focus on spreading the word of these developments, hopefully also beyond our own sphere of interest!

#EOS_Community :
Here words of an initiative by an Eden and #EOS_London member:
- "I’m looking at re invigorating EOS London , with meet-ups and general marketing if you or anyone are interested in supporting (funds or otherwise) would like to see as many big names as possible attend our first meeting. More to follow"

#Blue_Papers : Some are out and others nearing completion.
- "Aaron Cox of Greymass, and EOS blue paper project manager, discusses the significance of the blue papers that are being released. "
An excerpt from Eden Chief Delegate meeting #15.
Production by Chuck McDonald of the Eden Community
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkNew2907FQ

#ENF_B1 : This seen many places but significant why choose to include here. Keep in mind for now, as I can judge things, #ENF is doing a "Review of ALL possible legal recourse . . " to judge if any possibilities going forward. Rich discussion on this followed in our Eden member group.
- "As Founder of @EosNFoundation I share your frustrations! We are taking further steps to hold @B1 accountable for its past actions and broken promises against #EOS. Review of ALL possible legal recourse to seek $4.1B in damages underway. Let's do this together! #4BillionDAO coming - https://twitter.com/BigBeardSamurai/status/1491758599395180548 "

#DAOs : Words below by @bytemaster7 lead to yet another wide ranging discussion in the group:
#Dan_Larimer - ""Real #DAOs don’t / can’t file a law suites.
@EosNFoundation Real #DAOs focus on what they are Soveryn over, their own blockchain state. Real DAOs don’t have treasury of other tokens/money controlled by other governance systems. #4billionDAO
https://twitter.com/bytemaster7/status/1491775346500423685 ""

Here one of posts mid discussion with a reaction to all said thus far:
- ""I realize it’s off topic at the moment, but…
re: Dan’s definition of DAOs
I think this is a great discussion and ongoing debate to be having amongst ourselves and others involved in or interested in DAOs.
As much I enjoy being an idealist and idealizing things, it seems that the market is like a force of nature that ultimately decides what the definition of something is or is not.
Excited to get more perspective on this.""

#Chief_Delegates-meet : Chief Delegate Meeting 17 - posted 11 Feb 2022:
This week the Chief Delegates discuss:
-Individual updates
-ENF vs B1 litigation inquiry announcement
-Dan's response
-Advice for a Chief Delegatupdates Entity
-Stories from Lovejoy
https://youtu.be/SBp2yg6dL0Y "

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#Recap Eden Member group, 7 days Saturday-Friday 2022-04-01

#Author_Comments :
Past week with a few topics dominating the space. One commented on as per these words "Jesus this whole channel is just shilling now! lol might as well join the fray . ". Pomelo season well underway! 😁

#Bylaws :
" Hey All, please find attached the proposed bylaw set for the next Eden CD's to hopefully ratify: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fqADSeVTv17Go4Jw8TxO6gA8wBAy-UQK1_LJwn3xE6Y/edit?usp=sharing "

" . ideally you're going to review these now and then when folks are running they will let each other know if they will ratify the changes. It'll be important as part of the election for participants to go over this and make it part of their Delegate selection criteria."
"As per bylaw 4 a) "The active and a proposed set of bylaws are indivisible, single documents. E.G. The former CDs cannot provide the next set of CDs numerous options."

#Eden_elections :
"Today we are 2 weeks away from the April 9th election! I think we'd all like a good turnout, so please spread the word among existing members!
https://genesis.eden.eoscommunity.org/election"

""EDEN on EOS is hosting the election Saturday April 9th at 1300 UTC! Signup here by April 8th 1300 UTC to enter.
https://genesis.eden.eoscommunity.org
200k $EOS in the Treasury for projects that benefit #EOS""

#Chief_Delegates-meet : #24 - Posted 1 Apr 2022 - EdenOnEOS
The Chief Delegates discuss:
Individual updates & Recommendations for the next elected CDs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQylfCxHNcs

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#Recap Eden Member group, 7 days Saturday-Friday 2022-05-20

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#Author_Comments : The latest CD meetings been setting the tone for much of discussions in the Eden Member group. The quality, or rather lack thereof, in some EOSIO BPs and the voting for BPs became main topics through this week. This recap just a very tiny fraction of the rich and "deep" discussions.
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#EOSIO_EOS_future :
--M1--: "I think it would be awesome for either Eden or the ENF to establish a fund for attracting projects from other chains and facilitate porting over, or them being multichain, especially once the EVM is up and running. A Committee could be created by interested Eden Members and work with Eden Funding or apply to the ENF for funding from them."
--M2--: "To attract other chain Dapp developers we need to have a large user base, to get that we need just 1 killer Dapp, who’s building it? Easy onboarding free to use."
--M1-- : "I take your point though, that some Dapp Developers depending on what they're building will be looking to come on board an ecosystem with users. If that's the case, this is where we need to sweeten the pot/temporarily subsidize them to use the EVM and discover the benefits of utilizing EOS first. This can grow our users/onchain transactions and can save them some cash at first, and jumpstart the network effect."

#Eden_future : (referencing EdenOnEOS Chief Delegate Meeting #5 - Sat. May 14, 2022):
"This weeks @EdenOnEOS Chief Delegate meeting is not one to miss! There is a bold vision being formed, and the #EOS community is likely to have an opinion! Let's see what the @EosNFoundation makes of the CD's latest democratic overtures! 😉 $eos"

#ENF_Eden :
--M1--: "ENF serves the network and the network needs to be optimized"
--M2--: "if members who want to run organizations and initiatives want to do so to better the network then they should go for it."
--M1--: "ENF can also delegate voting to Eden and/or to a proxy".
--M2--: "👎we are about to destroy EOS"
--M3--: "ENF may of course vote with their own tokens... nothing wrong there.
If BPs want money to run infra, they could pitch to ENF to get some funding, but I don't see why ENF would proactively go looking for BP candidates to fund.".
--M1--: "ENF is currently our best bet for cutting the deadweight BPs".
--M2--: "they are. they are really doing a great job".
--M3--: "It's a difficult question as these are tokens being allocated to the ENF by the network. Conflicts of interest arise. What if the current BPs asked that IF the ENF votes it's only allowed to vote for the current top 21? giving way to further centralization."
--M1--: "If EOS doesn't prioritize having amazing (above and beyond) BPs, then it will likely be outcompeted by networks who do prioritize it. And rightfully so. I'd like to see where seriously addressing this BP thing is on the collective roadmap for the EOS network."

#Recap Eden Member group, past week up to and including Saturday 2022-06-04

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#Author_Comments : I wish to again emphasize that #recaps only point to some of all posts/discussions. They are in no way a complete reference to the same. The #recaps are only meant to serve as a guide to some of the interesting topics.
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#EOS_Yield+ : https://t.me/c/1186628781/28471
"“... a liquidity rewards program designed to incentivize TVL in DeFi applications on EOS would be one of the most impactful drivers of network growth.”" - https://www.eosgo.io/news/yield-blue-paper-liqudity-rewards-on-eos

#EOS_support : (some words related to "ram cleaning") :
- Question - "Is there any information on how to do ram cleaning?"
- Answered - "One case to free up RAM is: If you sell a token you hold in your EOS Account and the token balance is zero, if it doesn't automatically, you can recover RAM through the "close" action with Token's Contract.
For EOS click here: https://bloks.io/account/eosio.token?loadContract=true&tab=Actions&account=eosio.token&scope=eosio.token&limit=100&action=close enter your eos account and symbol "4,EOS"
or another example for EOSDT here: https://bloks.io/account/eosdtsttoken?loadContract=true&tab=Actions&account=eosdtsttoken&scope=eosdtsttoken&limit=100&action=close
We don't have an article yet, but it's planned to write one for that topic."

#Moving_Eden_Forward : (discussion mainly among Eden members whom are also members of ƒractally)
"Focusing on the next logical actions steps for moving Eden forward. Wednesdays 1300 UTC - https://gofractally.com/events/moving-eden-forward"

#EOS_Community :
- Question - "Do we have any new announcements?"
- Answered - "The EOS community is rebranding the main net. There is a cooperative between EOS chains, there is good governance happening at EDEN, and the fractally white paper is being coded into a very exciting Blockchain application. EOS is evolving into a federation of DOAs, Smart Companies, and DACs, which separately and together are coding Open Source software solutions that are a strong foundation for public goods. In addition, for profit businesses are attracting VC funding to build on top of these blockchain and open source solutions."

#Fractally_related : (& Eden connected)
"Proposal for Eden Fractal - https://edencreators.com/edenfractal
I'm proposing the name "Empowering Eden Contributors" for this event.
We are also looking to schedule another weekly meeting on another day of the week: Proposal for Fractal Forums - https://edencreators.com/fractalforums
I'm proposing the name "Moving Eden Forward" for this event.
If the group is open to it, we may join on StreamYard to have the meeting there as part of the live stream event rather than on Zoom as we normally do. Not sure the level of interest yet. I'm just a facilitator. My suggestion for the Live Stream event is to theme it around these questions or something similar to spark convo and valuable content:
What has been your greatest recent contribution to the EOS network?
What's something valuable that you'd like to see happen next on EOS?"

#Recap Eden Member group, up to & including Sunday 2022-07-24

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#Author_Comments : A number of topics extensively discussed these past weeks and has been in area of fundamentals from a wide range of viewpoints. Among these #MyvoteEOS, #Inductions, #Eden_elections, #Infrastructure, #EDAO, #Funding, #Treasury, #Governance, #Bylaws and more. #Recaps do not reflect much, if any at all, of these intense discussions. This because it is quite impossible to give a fair balanced view of these discussions in the short #recap format.
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#EOS_distribution? : 2022-07-10 :
--M1-- : "Is there anywhere one can go to see EOS distribution worldwide?"
--M2-- : "You can see geo distribution of inflation to BPs here - https://mainnet.eosio.online/rewards-distribution"
--M1-- : "Thanks, I'll check it out. Still having to make a series of assumptions here such as: . . "

#Eden_Delegates : 2022-07-10 : "Eden Season 3 Delegates channel has been set up, for current delegates to coordinate and stay in contact with other delegates of this seasons election."

#Eden_elections / #Accountability :
--M1-- : "Does anyone have an expense list for Eden elections? I'm curious where most of the costs come from. From first contact interview with Yves it sounds that it's really expensive."
--CD-- : "Here is a summary of the bids, . . "
--M2-- : "There was shockingly low participation from Eden members on that Vote.Eden Lead RFP."

#Dispute_Resolution / #Induction : 2022-07-12 : "I'd argue we need the dispute resolution before the removal/reduction of entry friction, depending on how much friction we're removing. We may also need a way to report people mid election if they won't/can't turn their camera on."

#FIO_Crypto_Handles : 2022-07-12 : "Wanted to let everyone know I added 123 more FIO Crypto Handles for Eden members: https://forums.eoscommunity.org/t/all-edenos-members-now-have-eden-fio-addresses/3462/29?u=lukestokes - They used to be called FIO Addresses). If everyone mapped addresses to various blockchains, we might be able to engage those chains to do Eden specific airdrops, knowing Sybil attack is impossible as it’s one handle per person."

#Eden_future : 2022-07-13 :
--M1-- : "Eden offers a process to distribute funds in a beautiful democratic way. This part is awesome. But I think the main problem with Eden is that it doesn't promote leadership for the community. During the election, many . . . "
--CD1-- : "Leadership over what tho. Over its own treasury? Sure, that much is obvious but when we try to govern other bigger system, while not proving we can even properly run eden, then... it looks like a naive proposition"
--CD2-- : ""Leadership" doesn't need to be interpreted as governing EOS, although that can certainly be a lofty goal that we can shoot for, and even there 'governing' EOS is full of nuance, and not binary."
--M2-- : "I would start by saying that there were a lot of concepts circulated in the community initially as to the vision for Eden. Then there wasn’t much follow up on some of those things and it all sort of took a life of its own. The biggest . . "

#Eden_future / #Workshop : 2022-07-13 : " What is Eden to Ourselves & to the World" :
--CD-- : "Join us for a manual Eden-style event on digging into why we're here. 🤔 We're looking to have the first of what will likely be a couple group calls on brainstorming what Eden is, and more importantly what can it become. 🚀"
--M1-- : "I expanded some ideas in the current election and will continue to advocate for a product management approach to Eden’s evolution. This morning I published an article on governance largely in reflection of the recent Eden election, available at linkedin or medium:
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/how-govern-your-self-others-world-web3-gavriel-shaw or
https://medium.com/@gavriel/how-to-govern-your-self-others-and-the-world-in-web3-a3bb82a07ea2 Very much looking forward to facilitating these workshops."

#Eden_future / #Workshop : 2022-07-19 : "Want to see the output of last week's session, please check out the doc. If you want to add to it, or have your voice heard, we'll be doing the second session this week at the same time."

#Mission_Vision? : 2022-07-19 : "I believe the disagreement here is actually indicative of a much more fundamental difference in what people's view of Eden is, or what they think it should be. Some think it *should* simply be an actual organization, with shared property, not incompatible with corporate personhood or limited liability. Others think it should simply be a process to identify and fund leaders by their alignment with a shared vision/mission."

#Eden_Infrastructure : 2022-07-15 : "Eden Hand Off and Software Support - A quick background, update and details from Fractally (formerly Clarion) aimed at ensuring everyone knows what’s happening with respect to Eden infrastructure being handed off to Eden members."

#Funding : 2022-07-19 : ENF's Yves La Rose :
"Re: Pomelo funding Eden. CDs should go back to Eden CDs season 1 and the hours spent talking about it. . . "
""Re: costs for code changes / running the election. For reference; There was a bid . . ""

#Eden_Chief_Delegates : @Eden_EOS_Chiefs : 2022-07-15 : "The newly elected #EOS Chief Delegates had a handover discussion with the previous term CDs" - https://bit.ly/3Prr4W0

#Cheif_Delegates-meet 1 : 2022-07-12 : "EdenOnEOS Chief Delegate Meeting #1 - Monday, July 12, 2022 - https://odysee.com/@EdenonEOS:f/Eden-on-EOS-CD-Meeting-1---Odysee:4

#Cheif_Delegates-meet 2 : 2022-07-18 : "EdenOnEOS Chief Delegate Meeting #2 - Monday, July 18, 2022 - https://odysee.com/@EdenonEOS:f/Eden-on-EOS-CD-Meeting-2:5

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#Recap Eden Member group (week #31) incl. Saturday 2022-08-06

#Chief_Delegates-meet 3 : 2022-07-25 : "EdenOnEOS Chief Delegate Meeting #3 - Monday, July 25, 2022 - https://odysee.com/@EdenonEOS:f/Eden-Chief-Delegate-Meetings-Week-3-Odysee:4

#Chief_Delegates-meet 4 : 2022-08-01 : "EdenOnEOS Chief Delegate Meeting #4 - Monday, August 01, 2022 - https://odysee.com/@EdenonEOS:f/Eden-on-EOS-Chief-Delegate-Meeting-Week-4-Odysee:3

#EOS_Accounts : 2022-07-28 : How export EOS account history. :
--M1-- : ""Is there a way to export the entire history of an EOS account in CVS instead of page by page via bloks.io?
--M2-- : "Use the RPC API and traverse history until you reach the end and then parse the JSON to human readable format. Some examples: https://eosio.stackexchange.com/questions/1459/how-to-get-all-the-actions-of-one-account - You will need to learn some basic, but its worth it :)"

#Fractal_Fiction : 2022-07-31 : "The first ever Fractal Fiction creative writing event. https://t.me/EOSproject/1932678
=
2022-08-06 https://t.me/c/1791074150/124 -
Sophia K. wrote "Little update for everyone: the story is coming together! I’ve been having so much fun writing it and Farah and Oscar have been awesome supporters. Lars, I’ll send you a copy at some point tomorrow. 😊🐲🔮🌊🤘🏼

#Eden_Discord : 2022-08-01 :
Question : "Is the Eden Discord server reserved for Eden members only or open to all?"
Answer : "Open to all - https://discord.gg/PSE4TuCW"

#Eden_future / #Workshop : 2022-08-02 : "The 3rd session for the Eden Brainstorming activity was moved to coming week. Gavriel is working on a summary in advance of the next step on this mission so a short pause between calls. Next session announced after summary is shared."

#Eden_future : "For Edens sake, Eden Needs To Value EOS Focussed Contributions" : "I’d like to think of Eden as the governance layer for the EOS blockchain, based on the principles from the book More Equal Animals. The further specifics of what “governance layer for the EOS blockchain” exactly means, need to be defined further. But I think for Eden to be recognized" - https://hive.blog/eos/@maximcincinnatis/for-edens-sake-eden-needs-to-value-eos-focussed-contributions

#Hypha : 2022-08-04 : https://t.me/c/1186628781/34139 : "We had the meeting with the Hypha DAO team to work towards Eden taking advantage of their platform as a potential tool to help us better organize ourselves. This spreadsheet is essentially a duplication of a questionnaire that was requested for us to attempt to fill out. In addition if you'd like to watch the meeting the recording can be found here . . . "

#Fractally_Eden : 2022-08-04 : "Just a quick update, Eden: As you’ve known, we’ve been working to hand off Genesis Eden so it’s in the community’s hands. That work has just completed. We’ve been working with the Edenia team, who has spun up servers, taken over accounts, and replaced the frontend. So you are now running on your own hardware."

#Eden_future : 2022-08-05 : "I agree with sentiment that Eden needs to earn its governance power in the EOS ecosystem. That's why I propose a path in which Eden could leverage economic power it creates to influence EOS governance, in a way that does not require asking the current governance system to yield its power: https://peakd.com/blockchain/@sim31/albedo-whitepaper ."

#Eden_elections : 2022-08-06 : "Eden Election (7.9.2022) Post Mortem Analysis - "Eden is an EOS Community organization that uses a new way to elect representatives known as “political playoffs”. The community completed its 3rd election on July 9th, 2022. This analysis is part of the Vote.Eden.Lead RFP set of deliverables." - https://medium.com/@domenicthomas/eden-election-7-9-2022-post-mortem-analysis-8d2292949483
""Here is the published version of the final analysis of the Vote.Eden.Lead RFP with a link to the final version of the eden election documentation: https://medium.com/@domenicthomas/vote-eden-lead-rfp-final-analysis-1ff292501d6c""

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#Recap Eden Member group (week #32) incl. Monday 2022-08-15

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#Author_Comments : The #Eden_Future in particular discussed at length past days/week with number of different views and perspectives raised.
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#Chief_Delegates-meet : 2022-08-08 : https://t.me/c/1186628781/34685 :
"View EdenOnEOS Chief Delegate Meeting #5 - Monday, Aug 8, 2022 - https://odysee.com/@EdenonEOS:f/Eden-on-EOS-Chief-Delegate-Meeting-Week-5-Odysee:0?t=922"

#Genesis_Eden_acc : 2022-08-07 : https://t.me/c/1186628781/34285 : "The genesis.eden account is now under control of the current cds. The next msig(s) will be to level out the hcd pay and increase the distribution rate from 5% to 15% as per the newly ratified bylaws."
https://bloks.io/account/genesis.eden#keys

#Fractally_related : 2022-08-08 : https://t.me/c/1186628781/34310 : "Genesis Fractal Data modelling and Simulation group just made significant discoveries . . "

#Discord_Eden : (https://discord.gg/CQU4s7gcze) : "Join the Eden Discord Server! Check out the Eden community on Discord"

#Eden_Updates : 2022-08-09 : https://t.me/c/1186628781/34353 : Head CD - "Some quick updates for the Eden community; . . "

#Eden_future : 2022-08-09 : https://t.me/c/1186628781/34376 :
--M1-- : ""I suggested a long time ago that we run an "election of ideas" simply have people prepare project pitches and use the eden election process to pick the pitches we felt should go forward. Then . . "
--M2-- : "I think experiment would not work if key condition is not met."
--M1-- : "How has eden proved its worth funding? I think we can point to a few things as being positive starts, but I'm not sure they have achieved measurable success to the point of justifying more funding."
--M2-- : "One way to figure out would be see outcome of spent funds. i dont know if the funds allocated could do anything more than operational things. At the same time, I think it has brought people who care about eos network together. created an enviroment for fostering positive discussions etc etc .. some unmeasurable things."
--M1-- : "There is certainly intangible value that has been created."
--M3-- : "If this is about Eden on EOS, it should really be the governance layer of EOS, the ENF needs to be democratic, and Eden on EOS was supposed to be that vehicle." - ""The community should have a referendum on it's purpose, and then just stick to it ruthlessly."
--M1-- : "This is absolutely the winning strategy IMO." - ""We gain influence by being effective at something and creating value that all token holders or at least most consider to be worthwhile. This will drive membership in time, but will also increase our funding, which is what will ultimately attract people.""
--M3-- : "Well said, but people are prob here for community and building a better world. I know most in this group are like that."
--M4-- : "My comment is basically directed at getting people who want and can donate their time recognition. That situation isn't one that can or should be indefinite, but this is also supposed to be built around a reputation system where when one goes above and beyond, it should be encouraged, and thus valued." - ""I encourage more people to show up to the brainstorming meetings and participate in shaping the future vision of Eden.""

#Hypha : 2022-08-11 : https://t.me/c/1186628781/34584 :
- Question: What's the status with the Hypha situation?
- Answer: "Thinking we meet Tuesday 16th at the previous time, 14:00 UTC. Once done goes back to the Hypha team to then open up the site for us."

#EOS_Respect : 2022-08-11 : https://t.me/c/1186628781/34606 :
- Question: "Is EOS Respect the EOS Support hosted / managed fork?"
- Answer: "Yes looks like it" (Author Comment - Read more here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dx_8WtHU9O4pgFcb2xjek79-a3cF2FKz/view?usp=sharing)

#EOSCommunity.org : 2022-08-14 : https://t.me/c/1186628781/34666 : Head CD - "Time has come to pay/donate for the code powering EDEN. Delegates (L1 and CDs) are asked to donate . . "

#Recap Eden Member group (WK34) posted Monday 2022-08-29

#Eden_Future / “Workshop : https://t.me/c/1186628781/34988 :
--M1-- : “wow... seemed to manifest out of the blue... I'm intrigued at what's possible”
--M2-- : “I shared the workshop doc in the previous post. Here is the actual draft position paper. https://t.me/c/1186628781/35001 - “”Once we find the right balance (by consensus) of the various community interests and priorities, we can finalize the position paper accordingly.
* worker proposal system / * community delegate leadership voting system /
* community development and engagement system / * EOS blockchain governance system””
--M3-- : “That’s a nice list. great work by everyone. A small thing , maybe we can call worker proposal system as contribution incentivization system. Would it make sense to include building/maintaining bridge to hold cross chain assets? just some thoughts.”
--CD-- : “No, better bridges are being built”

#Spend_Explore : https://t.me/c/1186628781/35010 : “Sneak peak into the Spend Explore income tab. - EOSIO Spend Explorer is an open-source dApp providing tools to improve reporting and categorizing of multiple TXs executed by EOSIO accounts.”

#Permissions : https://t.me/c/1186628781/35017 : QUESTION: “Hey, quick question to the Chief Delegates in here...has the transfer of permissions taken place yet from the old CDs?
ANSWER: “Yes that was done before the code changes at the beginning of the month”
--M— : “Eden namespace now under control of the current CDs.

#Eden_Membership : https://t.me/c/1186628781/35060 : --CD-- : “General question for the group: If an individual has resigned from Eden Membership, should they leave this chat also?” “”OK so then the follow on question, if we agree they should leave here, how do we make someone leave . . “”

#EOS_Rate : https://t.me/c/1186628781/35080 : “We released EOS Rate 2.0, featuring the following improvements: 🔹Users can now add comments to their ratings / 🔹Users can like or dislike user comments / 🔹New homepage layout design / 🔹Significant performance updates & general bug fixes. Go to https://eosrate.io & start rating! Eden members that rate included in eden member proxy.”

#Miscellaneous :
https://t.me/c/1186628781/35057 : “If anyone know the person or people behind goldminerxxx, mgm.gm, mgmgmgmgm.gm or eosmadrinode I'd like to speak with him/her/them . . "

#Chief_Delegates_meet : “EdenOnEOS Chief Delegate Meetings :
Meeting #6 - Monday, Aug 15, 2022 : https://odysee.com/@EdenonEOS:f/Eden-on-EOS-Chief-Delegate-Meeting-Week-6-Odysee:a
Meeting #7 - Monday, Aug 22, 2022 : https://odysee.com/@EdenonEOS:f/Chief-Delegate-Meeting-7---Eden-on-EOS---Odysee:4

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#Recap Eden Member group (WK35) posted Sunday 2022-09-04

#ENF_interview : https://t.me/c/1186628781/35132 : “Strong interview by BigBeardSamurai, good one to take in when time allow!” - https://youtu.be/FCOyKlSBkKg - “” Huobi X-Change invited Yves La Rose, EOS Network Foundation CEO, who share the topic titled “The New EOS – 1 Year Anniversary of the EOS Network Foundation” “”

#Eden_Hypha : https://t.me/c/1186628781/35136 : “Here is the recording link to the call yesterday with Joachim from Hypha. . “ - “” This Hypha DAO instance doesn't have a USD treasury, so picking 100% option for deferred for now.””

#Eden_Hypha : https://t.me/c/1186628781/35133 : “If you're looking to join the Eden community on Hypha, this link should get you going. Once you've signed up please let me know here or PM so I can approve it, then full access: . . “

#Eden_Fractal meeting #13 : https://t.me/c/1186628781/35153 : 31 Aug 2022 : https://youtu.be/eQHP3BHo04Y : “ Come participate by joining the Eden Discord Server https://discord.gg/cnhQWk7rXm “

#Eden_Fractal : https://t.me/c/1186628781/35160 : “NovaCrypto LTD interview Dan Singjoy of Eden ƒractal - “Empowering Eden Contributors”. Part of EOSIO Swiss Workshop 15 - August 23rd, 2022” - https://youtu.be/dFLPEADj65w all timestamped”

#Eden_Proxy : https://t.me/c/1186628781/35163 : “The Eden on #EOS Proxy has just been updated...real humans providing real rankings.” - https://twitter.com/EOS_EdenProxy/status/1566061285506252801

#Chief_Delegates_meet : “EdenOnEOS Chief Delegate Meeting #8 – September 4th, 2022 - https://odysee.com/@EdenonEOS:f/Eden-on-EOS-Chief-Delegate-Meeting-8-:4

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Lennie (@mlninparadise):

"Now we're talking!" 👏🐬

Eden CD's started move in more interesting and focused direction in several areas as I see things.

https://youtu.be/apgF0XTyP1g

Above link to recording of live weekly meeting of the CDs yesterday Friday.

#Recap Eden Member group (WK45) - posted Sunday 2022-11-13

* #Author_Comments: #68M and related MSIGs discussed but not covered here except for the #Eden_Poll.*

#Eden_Chief_Delegates-meet No.5 - Nov 11, 2022 : “Eden Chief delegates discuss Governance. - https://youtu.be/apgF0XTyP1g“ - “"Live Eden CD meeting Fridays 19:00 UTC - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClag0OaWpM0SQeA7GkutlKg/streams"

#Eden_Dispute_Resolution Lead ? : https://t.me/c/1186628781/38621 :
--CD-- : Eden now have a Dispute Resolution process as part of community rule-set. Need a 'Circle Lead' to organize and run this process. Anyone interested in this role, please speak up!.
--M1-- : https://t.me/c/1186628781/38626 : “I would like to offer the idea that the Chief Delegates: … “
--M2-- : https://t.me/c/1186628781/38682 : “Some possible responsibilities I can think of are as follows : … “
--CD-- : “Scope: This process addresses the removal of Eden members. Its scope is limited to disputes inside Eden that are affecting the integrity of the system. Violations regarding the Induction process, sybil checks in the first round of election, and different forms of vote buying.”
--M3-- : https://t.me/c/1186628781/38739 : “I have now looked over all bylaws and think they make sense. Personally I think cost (timewise & money related) involved can be lowered. Many … “
--CD-- : “I think we should test the current version first before we start working on the changes. These all might be … “
--M3-- : “I agree.”

#Eden_Poll : https://t.me/c/1186628781/38909 : --M1-- : POLL Question: “Should Chief Delegates in the name of EdenOnEOS take a position regarding the 68M EOS "Unburn"?”
--M2-- : “This is a good question, but I’m not sure how relevant this org or the CDs are to the governance of the network at this moment. What kind of … “
--M1-- : “To not take positions, is to relegate ourselves to irrelevance.”
--M4-- : “EdenOnEos is the truest voice of the EOS community. It should and does have opinions on how EOS is governed, therefore, imo it has to act as a voice for the community. And the CDs are …”
--M5-- : “non aggressive positioning with rationale is probably the right way. it would go a long way in adoption and understanding of EdenOnEos. From my point of view, key learning for us as community is to be proactive in governance.”

#Eden_Fractal meeting 22 on Nov 9 : https://t.me/c/1186628781/38758 : “The momentous meeting when we reached consensus and approved the first proposal with the Eden+Fractal process! - https://youtu.be/eJ7g6wWSPKY“

#Eden_Fractal time change! : “Time of weekly meetings changed - now 16:00 UTC Wednesdays. This article includes proposals and reasons to change the time. - https://edencreators.com/time“

#Dan_Larimer Nov/2022 : https://t.me/c/1186628781/38689 : “Part I - Daniel Larimer: #EOS, #PSIBASE, #Antelope, NFTs, fractally and much more! - https://youtu.be/j51Mpe8l0Ng“

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#Recap Eden Member group (WK46) - posted Sunday 2022-11-19

#Sybil_protection plan : https://t.me/c/1186628781/38955 :
--CD1-- : “Here’s progress on the sybil protection plan.” – ““We believe the following is a realistic timeline. Phase 1: S4 (current term) - * Distribute … “”
--M1-- : “Sounds good. I'd encourage you to join the Tuesday NFT Reputation System Circle meeting and discuss since much of this already built out, we're currently working on … “
--CD1-- : “Any objections –M2--?”
--M2-- : “I would skip phase 1 and 2, those changes are not so big that they need … “
--CD1-- : “Had a great call today. Looks like the ability to distribute an NTT upon voting has mostly already been designed and coded . “
--M3-- : “I think it’s wise to always err on the most simple , elegant approach that limits changes to smart contracts that have been working as expected. I think … “
--M2-- : “Dan L. mashed together democratic playoff with sybil check. I think its a sound solution, but that does make first round special in a sense. Alternative solution would be to have a separate round for sybil check, and then later running election rounds, possibly asynchronous. But … “
--M2-- : “Met with my team today and devised how each functionality can be achieved. Its not easy but its also not that hard to do it in a way to minimize changes to the current Eden contract. We are willing to do … “ - https://t.me/c/1186628781/39075“

#Eden_Chief_Delegates-meet No.6 - Nov 18, 2022 : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39139 : “The CDs are on live - join and interact - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLqjjThvWMY“

Eden_Dispute_Resolution Lead ? : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39079 :
--CD-- : “After first posting this there was a good amount of dialogue as to how we roll out and really test this Dispute Resolution process. Some of that discussion did seem to add a lot of friction to making this happen but … “ – “With that I will ask again, does anyone want to run this process?”

#DAO_building : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39047 : “3 Questions That Will Help You Build Better DAO Communities - Addressing the challenges of community management in DAOs” - https://link.medium.com/hnTkrsuEZub“

#Eden_Fractal time change! : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39051 : “The Eden+Fractal council approved to change start time of breakout rooms in Wednesday meetings to 16:00 UTC. We’ll open the community room 15:30 UTC. Everyone is encouraged to join the community room before breakout rooms to participate in open discussions.” – “I changed the timezone on the event page to UTC to make it easier for everyone to coordinate their schedules around the world.” – “More in Eden Fractal telegram group: https://t.me/edenfractal“

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#Recap Eden Member group (WK47) - posted Sunday 2022-11-27

#Eden_Chief_Delegates-meet No.6 - Nov 18, 2022 : “ The Eden Chief delegates gather to discuss Eden on EOS Governance. - https://youtu.be/TLqjjThvWMY“

#Sybil_protection NTT/SBT : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39173 :
--CD-- : “We met Nov 22 to discuss implementing NTT/SBT distribution linked to voting in the election. Follow progress —> https://youtu.be/BfC5mK3VSAU Reviewing Code and Strategy for NTT/SBT Design. Also View @sachitdabas code —> … “
--M-- : “Please review and feel free to contribute and suggest features or changes.”

#Hacks on EOS Network? : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39169 : “In reply to question https://t.me/c/1186628781/39167 -
“”Not that I am aware of, but sounds like a solid idea for an article on EOS SUPPORT. Maybe this is helpful for now - https://t.me/c/1186628781/39169 - DeFi Has a $4 Billion Hacking Problem. EOS Has a... (cryptodaily.co.uk)“

#Eden_University : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39189 : “Building on Eden University fantasy 😀.. Eden university can be entry point for new members. It can have a 101 course for new members with at least these topics - a) Election training and mock elections, b) Benefits of members, c) Values of Eden - To be “formally” part of Eden … “

#Eden_Fractal meeting 24 : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39182 : “The group plays Eden+Fractal and discusses agenda systems, promoting work, making rules, spreading fractal software, and more! - https://youtu.be/kXiH2dhe9Es“

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#Recap Eden Member group (WK49) - posted Sunday 2022-12-11

#Eden_CDs on Twitter Spaces Dec 8th : https://t.me/EdenOSinfo/43881 : “Use of 500,000 $EOS received … - https://twitter.com/Eden_EOS_Chiefs/status/1600890052313108481?t=qpd2XjstvRfTQuUR8v23oQ&s=19“

#Eden_CDs roundtable : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39345 : “Like to join the CD roundtable and ask questions for CD's to respond to? There's been a lot of excited responses … “ - “”If you are L1 or Eden member and like to join the meeting can do so here - … “l
--M1-- : “Thank you for making that call possible. Good stuff👏”
--CD-- : “Great call all, thank you for joining. I think these L1 + CD meetings are really valuable.”
--M2-- : “yes, would be nice to do them regularly.”

#Eden_Chief_Delegates-meet Dec 9th : https://t.me/EdenOSinfo/43978 : “Eden on #EOS, CDs Weekly Meeting #9 - https://youtu.be/Im_R9-_l5I4“ - “” CDs discussed and stated our stances on the B1 donation, and how we'll ... - ... Also, a lot more was shared about: …"

#Eden_Hypha : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39280 :
--M1-- : “Do we have any timelines for the Eden upvote system “Hypha version”? I have several people interested in potentially using the software across different projects. Running an eden election essentially.”
--M2-- : “No, and i don't think it will be soon either.”
--CD-- : “Hypha just updated their roadmap (see graphic). All funds raised from Pomelo will go towards expediting this process and adding new features that communities need to govern. Hypha aims for Q1 next year to have the Eden process and full EOS deployment.”
--M1-- : “Thank you for this, very helpful.”

#Eden_interviews 1on1 : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39391 : “In my role as CD I'm conducting 1on1 interviews with Eden members to better understand the gaps in our organization and governance process. If you'd like to share and participate please send me a PM and we'll set up a time.”

#Eden_Treasury disbursement ratio : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39298 :
--M1-- : “How quickly can CDs act to lower the distribution percentage ?”
--M2-- : “Now if Eden could use some of those funds to participate in Yield+ … with 5% of TVL trickling back to the treasury. 🤔”
--M3-- : “Any actions or plans initiated how deal with transparency and accountability when now a significant increase in the monthly funding to delegates?”
--M1-- : “Are CDs receiving 2k + 8k ?”
--CD-- : “Yes CD's receive L1 + L2 funds.”

#Eden_Fractal : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39266 :
--M1-- : “Any article about the mechanics of the Eden-Fractal smart contract?”
--M2-- : “Draft article https://edencreators.com/tooling describe Eden Fractal tooling and https://edencreators.com/tooling/admindocumentation for instructions how process respect distributions.”

#Up_Vote_Bot : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39374 : “We are planning 30 minute test of Up Vote Bot. We don't need everyone, but … " - “”The testing will be Monday 14:00 EST (19:00 UTC).""

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#Recap Eden Member group - up to end of 31 Dec, 2022, (UTC) - (Post 2 of 7)

#Eden_Member comment 19 Dec, 2022 : https://t.me/c/1186628781/40854 :
--M1-- : "Just. Caught. Up.... 😅 It sure can be punishing to entertain the illusion one might enjoy a peaceful Sunday now and then... 😂 This community always surprises and delights. A coherent single response to all this in the morning... (took notes on my evening read through the 400 odd messages) Good night my fellow Space Monkeys! 🛸🐒🛸"
--M2-- : "Who admins this group? Why is this hostile rhetoric tolerated?""
--CD-- : https://t.me/c/1186628781/41418 : "Thanks for the EPIC discussion! The proposal to clarify the role that CDs are playing in Eden - was just that, a proposal, to start this dialogue and process. However, ... ""

#ESP_ESPx Announcement Dec 23, 2022 : https://t.me/c/1186628781/41883 ;
--CD-- : "Announcing the Eden Smart Proxy - A solution to align the interests of BPs, token holders & #EOS network that will inspire the entire #blockchain industry. #ESPx intends to maximize accountability, transparency & integrity of the $EOS mainnet." - ""To read the Litepaper visit here: https://proxy.eden.eoscommunity.org - To actually understand what ESPx watch here https://youtu.be/YuGVXG-IkpA""

#Eden_Member (some are BPs) feedback & CD words Dec 23-24 and onward:
--CDa-- : "I think the Eden Smart Proxy will be something for members to consider as a function this group can do beyond just allocate funds. Definitely looking for feedback if anyone has looked at it yet!!"
--M1-- : "The only constant is change, but change must happen more slowly than our capacity to adapt to change, or consensus is lost, and we fall apart."
--M2-- : "Improving the existing .. while also inventing emerging .. "
--M3-- : "So many brilliant hard working community members seeming on different sides of the battle, so it's a bit horrifying to see, but the hope of governance working is somewhat reassuring. Let's be sure no soldiers fall in the battle, as we need each warrior for the future."
--M4-- & BP : " ... so ESP is cool supporting bps that are actively vote buying but say they wont eventually?" - ""I've made it a point to stand by my position and explain it... but sounds like really we just want folks to be like "yeah im on board" but not really have any reason to change :)""
--CDa-- : https://t.me/c/1186628781/42354 ????? "I think you're being a bit harsh. We are working on getting stake...this was just announced yesterday."
--M5-- & BP : "The lite paper does define a 2 month grace period. This is why we haven’t pledged anything, because we’re not going to stop in 2 months if this proxy has like 10m votes. That’s not enough." - ""Well take the pledge when there’s a realistic chance of it happening. You don’t pledge to quit your job when you don’t have anything lined up.""
--M6-- : "How are the funds received by the BPs going to be offset so harm is not caused to our community creators relying on their expertise and staff? ... "
--M5-- & BP : "This notion that block producers are expected to do everything isn’t healthy. We needed other opportunities for people to get involved and fill in those gaps to lessen the burden on these organizations, and we have that now. Right here, in this channel, is another one of those organizations - Eden. The candidates and members here are funded to do whatever is beneficial to the network and its users, while using this experimental election process as the means to decide who gets what."
--M6-- : "My concern is that just because we’re smart individuals doesn’t mean everyone is qualified to make an informed decision on BPs"
--CDb-- : "The damage ... has already been done! "We are trying to fix that. ... " - https://t.me/c/1186628781/43566
--M7-- : "One question I have in terms of macro impact: .. " - "" .. is there a chance that there may be material negative consequences? Perhaps .. " - https://t.me/c/1186628781/43624
--M8-- : "I think its pretty clear that proxy is centralised for now"