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#Recaps of the UpScale Community telegram group, discussion and items not already seen nor shared elsewhere.
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#Eden_future :
--M1-- : "hmm so is Eden for projects or leadership?
Really was pretty sure after talking to everyone last election we were going for leaders. Haven't seen any direction besides "value". Maybe the bylaws should explain what value means and how the process increases value. Value is subject to a person who values it. Collaborate systems work when focusing on one goal, and I hope to learn what that goal is in more concrete terms."
--CD1-- : "It's still not formulated to anyone's satisfaction. You know how hard a bylaws change is. The bylaws can't explain what value is. The subjectivity of it is what gives Eden members full latitude to pursue/fund any project that they want. If it turns out that they squandered their resources (AND TIME!!!) then Eden members should step up and be vocal about it."
--M2--: "Once we've achieved measurable results, gained the respect and trust of the broader community, including BPs, then we can broaden our horizons and our mission. If we were to follow this with any level of real commitment, I don't think it would take longer than a year for Eden to achieve immense results."
--M2--: "I suggest we come up with some definable ways to measure "value" as I absolutely agree that focus is often critical to success."

#EOSIO_future :
--M1--: "The new coalition of EOS, TELOS, WAX and UX already has a budget for professional rebranding of EOSIO. I recommend we waste zero time duplicating efforts there. We desperately need pros to do this stuff for us."

#Chief_Delegates-meet :
VIDEO: EdenOnEOS Chief Delegate Meeting #3 - Thursday, 28 April 2022
https://player.odycdn.com/api/v4/streams/free/Chief-Delegate-Meeting-3/5fd41683774a420c06cfe6911f641671c14bb27c/bb6f1e
DOC: The Meeting Minutes from 3rd Eden #2 Chief Delegate meeting can be found here : https://bywire.news/articles/eos-chief-delegates-meeting-3

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#Recap Eden Member group, 7 days Saturday-Friday 2022-05-06

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#Author_Comments : Week started with a discussion on Eden treasury status and funding plans ahead. Various other topics as always with also an extensive discussion initiated by idea brought forth by a member. A proposal to aim for and work on a near future "CONFERENCE (Party)?!!" during or soon after June 2022. As member expressed it "EOS and June go together!". The discussion continue, potentially with an event formulated in near future.
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#Funding :
--M1-- : "I think you should strongly consider pulling more funding from the treasury. If by doing this Eden as an org can grow and expand faster, then I think this would be a reasonably prudent early use of funds that the BPs and ENF would be ok with."
--CD1-- : "It makes a lot of sense to have the organization itself pursuing more significant goals, rather than just funding a Pareto population of election winners... And then the unelected constantly petitioning them for funding, AND . . . . "
--M2-- : " Why not invite economists to help redesign the economic model? Everyone is in a prisoner's dilemma. Maybe you can hire someone who is proficient in game theory."

#Polls :
--M1-- : "I love idea mentioned in the last delegate meeting to hold symbolic votes about all things related to EOS. It doesn't need to be binding to be valuable."
--M2-- : "That’s what Consortium is for."

#Eden_Contributors :
" We're meeting again today, if you'd like to join.
Focus is on presenting your next steps for Eden.
All delegates and members are welcome to join.
https://gofractally.com/events/empowering-eden-contributors "

#Chief_Delegates-meet :
EdenOnEOS Chief Delegate Meeting #4 - Thursday, May 5, 2022 - Posted May 6th, 2022
https://odysee.com/@EdenonEOS:f/Chief-Delegate-Meeting-4:e

-- "The Eden CD's 4th meeting notes can be found below 👇🏼
Key Highlights:
▶️ Bylaws have been ratified and are now in effect.
▶️ Introducing KPI to measure the success of Eden.
▶️ What services can Eden provide to the broader community?
https://bywire.news/articles/eos-chief-delegates-meeting-4"

-- "The Meeting minutes of Eden Chief Delegates are mapped out into the MindWeb Eden Dashboard MindMap."

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#Pomelo :
--M1-- : "You want to build an application that tracks the reputation of pomelo projects? that can be something some active nodes of eden can work on. Will help EOS and also bring awareness that eden members can be of a value to the community."
--M2-- : "Would be interesting if Eden itself was able to use the Pomelo platform in some way, so that only Eden Members can make a proposal for a project and then only Eden Delegates can vote on it from their Eden accounts. And the matching pool is the Eden Treasury or a separate account for this purpose."
--M1-- : "The goal is to really help the community find the best projects and fund them. Technically, if we the people are doing a great job. we should be picking maybe 5 top notch projects that we love and voting for them."
--CD1-- : "So Eden should make donations directly to worthwhile Pomelo grants then. Since it's all just Eden's money anyhow. The entire Organization should vote on it, and make one donation to each grant. On the last day, so that donation numbers don't get inflated to drive mimesis."

#Miscellaneous :
--CD1-- : "The people who run for election on the promise to be good leaders, get elected, and perform the function of good leaders... Is this function as valuable as 'building things'?"
--M1-- : "the question becomes who are you leading? if you are going to be a good leader for yourself and make sure that you deliver on your promise and intent then that is nice. But when you say you are running to be a good leader to provide value for EOS, what is it that you are leading becomes the question."
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--M2-- : "I'm participating in the Eden Town Hall Twitter Space right now, and I'm realizing that most of us Eden Members need A LOT more practice in learning how to talk about Eden and EOS to people or to an audience who knows very little or nothing about our stuff. The EOS community has been predominantly stuck in its own bubble and echo chamber. If we want this ecosystem to grow, we must make our ideas, apps, etc. super attractive and welcoming to various audiences who are unaware of Eden or EOS and the value it offers them. I encourage everyone creating media to consider this."
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--M3-- : "If eden process would be used by the world then it will be hard to track people and organizations who have legit twitter accounts no? I mean if it would be used by only this genesis group then I understand. We should find a way.
--M4-- : "Well, for Eden, if we could add a field to member profiles / potentially add a special field for CD controlled msig accounts, then it’s all able to be checked against the smart contract. But i’m not a dev, so someone check me here. Similar to adding a pgp key, no? Simple like “@E02=EdenOfficial” or some such thing, in bios. Attest “officialness” and revoke as need be."

#Chief_Delegates-meet :
EdenOnEOS Chief Delegate Meeting #5 - Saturday, May 14, 2022
https://odysee.com/@EdenonEOS:f/Chief-Delegate-Meeting-5:5

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Lennie, [21/05/2022 17:13]
#Eden_Proxy :
--M1--: "Quick question: if we have 181,815 EOS in the Eden Treasury, why is it the Eden Proxies only have 66,000 votes? Before discussing the ENF voting with their tokens, shouldn't this be taken care of first?"
--M2-- "Eden Treasury doesn’t vote for Eden Proxy"
--M1--: "Shouldn't it?"
--M2--: "It was suggested in the CD meeting. To send a signal"
--M1--: "Hard to discuss whether the ENF should or could do anything in regards to voting if we haven't done it ourselves".
--CD1--: "Eden's elected leadership don't have the active keys for the genesis.eden account yet."
--M1--: "I'm for making bold moves in both the governance and finances of the network. We all know what needs to be done, the question is whether or not we have the power and will to do it. I applaud Yves for having taken the initiative in both and working within the confines of the system as is, and blazing a trail forward where no one new how."
--CD1--: "Maybe many of the paid BPs look around and see the ones doing nothing and want to change things, but they can't. They would be waiting for an organization like EDEN to come along, demonstrate that it understands what is happening, and maybe those BPs would be amenable to giving this organization some voting weight to attempt to address the problem."

#EdenOnEOS :
--CD1--: "The transparency projects that many have been speaking of and hoping for, and building piecemeal - those projects can become a core mission of Eden. Chain Transparency. If Eden wanted to, it could replicate our process, and any other cool apps that we're going to be creating and bundle them into a dapp that others can use. At the moment though, others can't just use Eden without a great deal of wasted energy."
--M1--: "So genesis eden might have to polish edenOS for the best of what genesis eden wants to do."
--CD1--: "Sure, get the contracts and interfaces built so that others can use them."
--M1--: "this brings up the point that the most important thing is "the eden process." The edenOS code can be rewritten but the concept of electing people to distribute funds, or build a community throught consensus is the "gem" perhaps??"
--CD1--: "Yeah, finding that 'gem' has been difficult. I think it's the political playoffs process itself. It seems to work, but only when there is a sufficiently large/diverse group of people playing the game."

#Sybil :
--M1--: "Annual dues and intro meetings are both imperfect sybil resistance, not sybil proof. The election is theoretically sybil proof, although I look forward to analyzing an attempted attack at some point. But it's also not a big deal to allow sybil attacks if there are no positive rights given to the community at large, and all benefits are a function of one's participation in elections."
--M2--: "Maybe at some point Eden should run a test election where it provides a bounty for white-hat sybil attackers who reveal shortcomings and suggest solutions. We are in the era of deep fakes now."
--M3--: "the bounties often stimulate putting fakes in (they again incentivise attackers to collect them, because price of putting them there and pointing to them is far smaller than researching where the real attackers at."
--M4--: "Then we may just need some sort of system that rewards or tracks reputation. Where when someone is caught doing something shady, they have something to lose."

#Chief_Delegates-meet : 1
"Apologies for the delay, Here's the meeting notes from the most recent CD meeting: https://bywire.news/articles/eos-chief-delegates-meeting-5"

#Chief_Delegates-meet : 2
"EdenOnEOS Chief Delegate Meeting #6 - Thursday, May 20, 2022 - https://odysee.com/@EdenonEOS:f/Chief-Delegate-Meeting-6:4 "

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#Recap Eden Member group, 7 days Saturday-Friday 2022-05-27

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#Author_Comments :
Eden member group in a bit of a lull this week, short work on #recaps this week.
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#Eden_debating? :
--M1-- : "I see increasing negativity in the https://t.me/EdenOSinfo public channel. Constructive criticism should be encouraged and supported. Constant repetition of the same negative topic without offering a solution should not be."
--M2-- : "Is the purpose of the public group open debate? Or is it to help onboard people into Eden & EOS? There are plenty other places for public debate. Perhaps a privilege of Eden Membership can be the ability to participate in well structured and moderated, open public debates? No point in joining if you can get that privilege without joining."
--M3-- : "ya maybe it is (the open debate part). Maybe part of what Eden needs to do is define itself and its intentions in a public forum. Our public Eden channel seems to have the eye of many in the EOS community who actually care about EOS' success, so of all the places to debate the negative viewpoints, why not there, and if not there where else?"
--M4-- : "My personal view of the EdenOnEOS Channel is that it's also a place for the EOS Community to engage with Eden. I'd encourage delegates to be present and engage there with the public, especially on governance topics. By the way, toxicity is the real problem, not negativity as long as it's expressed in a civil and rational manner to be debated."

#Eden_Hispanic :
"Happy day EDEN Members! Weekly call in "Eden - Spark", any member of the hispanic community (or not) is welcome. The link to the meeting found in the TG group. Thanks!
https://t.me/eos_espanol"

#Chief_Delegates-meet :
"Meeting Minutes 19 May 2022 - notes from CD meeting #6 last week.
Main items covered:
▶️ Individual updates
▶️ Vote for Yves as ENF President discussed
▶️ What areas should CDs vote on?
▶️ Why Eden & what is Eden's future?

https://bywire.news/articles/eos-chief-delegates-meeting-6"

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#Recap Eden Member group, 7 days Sunday-Saturday 2022-06-11

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#Author_Comments : The recap this time with two Chief Delegate meetings - #8 on June 2 and #9 on June 9.
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#Chinese_Eden :
--M1-- : "Welcome to follow Chinese Eden, we have a separate Discord and Medium, and all proposals and election process will be posted in the EOS Community Forum. Due to limited manpower at this time, it is difficult for us to keep the English version up to date, so if anyone in the community would like to help us with translation, we would appreciate it!
Discord: https://discord.gg/fy2JYdpR
Medium: https://medium.com/@edencn
Information on past first test election and on upcoming second test election: https://forums.eoscommunity.org/c/eos/eoscn/35
Notion: https://edencn.notion.site/edencn/EDEN-827f60bd124b4d2ead39619444edf07d"
--M2-- : "Sure thing...
I'd love to invite you or any representative of it to the EOS Translation Foundation Telegram group.We want to address all this language barriers and solve them for easier interaction."
--M1-- : "We also have a DAO called EDAO, which we improved Daniel's fractally and used it to provide more support services for elected projects. Everyone in the community can get involved, do the work needed for the project, and report back at the weekly meetings for rewards."
--M2-- : "Come around. We'll be happy to help. https://t.me/EOSTranslationFoundation"

#EdenOnEOS_Benefits :
"Welcome to Eden members private group 🎉 https://help.eossupport.io/en/articles/5889843-what-are-the-benefits-of-becoming-an-eden-member"

#Fractally_related : (& Eden connected) :
"" "Don't Give Fractally the Time of Day"
This is an extreme and antagonistic statement of how we should proceed.
But I do think, we should focus on building Eden. If we want to adopt aspects of Fractally, why not. But not Fractally. In general, at the current date and time, with the information at hand, my perspective has not changed. I would not vote to "become a Fractal" of Fractally. I encourage greater focus and development of Eden, and EdenOnEOS. I don't want to draw this conversation out more than it needs to given this is Eden, and Fractally is nowhere near a state where we could evaluate its adoption.""

#Accountability :
--M1-- : "Eden members who wish to be vocal and report their CDs on not fulfilling promises should feel encouraged to do so, and ofc address the matter politely and with the respect any person deserves, as well presenting the proof of the claims."
--M2-- : "It is my understanding, that the people who elected the delegates are responsible for holding them accountable. In an ideal system, voters could have the opportunity to rate their delegates or at least make a statement as to whether they have kept their word on what they promised."
--M3-- : "Ideally what would be of use is a place where public comments/questions/concerns can be posted about each Eden Delegate. There the Delegate could publicly respond to defend themselves, or even just to explain their thinking for deviating from a promise or something."

#Chief_Delegates-meet :
"EdenOnEOS Chief Delegate Meeting #8 - Thursday, June 1, 2022 - https://odysee.com/@EdenonEOS:f/Chief-Delegate-Meeting-8:8
"Notes from the CD meeting #8: https://bywire.news/articles/eos-chief-delegates-meeting-8"

"EdenOnEOS Chief Delegate Meeting #9 - Thursday, June 9, 2022 - https://odysee.com/@EdenonEOS:f/Eden-CD-Meeting-Week-9:5
"Notes from CD meeting #9: https://bywire.news/articles/eos-chief-delegates-meeting-9

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#MSIG - [14/06/2022 03:48 UTC]
--Dan Larimer-- : ""According to the bylaws, the active keys should be set to the chiefs. I am A-OK with that."
--CD1-- "Do you want the CDs to write the Msig?"
--Yves La Rose-- : "I suggest CDs create an MSIG for the BPs"
--M1-- : "We've already received their (BPs) support. this makes no sense. Uppdating these permissions isn't the bp support we really need. Let this community keep building Eden and get it to the point where its deserving of the support we do need, via funding."
--Dan Larimer-- : "It would be a symbolic gesture for both ENF and Fractally to sign off on it."
--Yves La Rose-- : "Are Eden CDs making the MSIG so it's a three-party action?"
--Daniel Larimer-- : "Yep"
--Yves La Rose-- : "That works for the ENF"
--Daniel Larimer-- : "Then going forward eden active can act unilaterally"
--Yves La Rose-- : "Does it work for Eden?"
--CD1-- : [In reply to Yves La Rose] "It would appear that I am the only one up atm, so I can't speak on behalf of the CDs."
--CD1-- : "We are learning as we go, but going forward all communications like this will have to appear onchain. The CDs have been fully transparent about our concerns about the bylaws, and we went to great lengths to act responsibly in their ratification. We should have presented the active keyholders immediately with the msig for that transfer. The request was restated many times, and it escalated in its earnestness."
--Daniel Larimer-- : "I’m only asking for the steps I feel are necessary to minimize Fractally liability by recognizing our commitment to only use the keys for code maintenance and reinforce our legal stance that this is not our account"
--M2-- : "I think communication is incredibly important and helping others understand the factors motivating our chosen paths in a reputation based system. It will be up to everyone in the community to decide who acted how, and value those actions accordingly.
If at the very least, I'd like to thank Dan for the thought exercise and lessons in what some may view as not the best-case scenario in the transfer of property in a DAO. We should work on means to make this cleaner, as Yves said it should be automated."
--M3-- : " . as someone who has spent most of the last 5 years working with compliance issues surrounding blockchains, DAOs and DeFi, there was never any risk of this organization being considered a general partnership based on transferring keys or because a document was drawn up. If we're really concerned about this issue at all, we simply form one of the Wyoming DAOs and call it a day. wouldn't cost more than a couple thousand dollars to have attorneys ensure everything is in order for us. I spoke with the state of Wyoming several times around the time that eden was forming. So long as we're using the eden consensus protocol to assign funds and elect leaders for temporary assignment periods, there's no partnership here."

#Chief_Delegates-meet :
"EdenOnEOS Chief Delegate Meeting #10 - Thursday, 16 June 2022 : https://odysee.com/@EdenonEOS:f/Chief-Delegate-Meeting-10:5

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#Eden_Members_Services : [2022-06-25]
--CD-- : The Eden Members Service, known henceforth as the EMS, shall serve at the pleasure of the Eden Delegates and Chief Delegates. The purpose of the EMS will be to provide limited centralised operations in the form of ‘Circles’, which can facilitate the procurement of both products and services deemed necessary by Delegates and Chief Delegates in aid of their pursuit of the Eden mission statement, and in accordance with their compliance to both the Bylaws and Peace Treaty only. Circles will be formed in response to Requests for Proposals (RFPs) made by Chief Delegates. . . " https://bywire.news/articles/eden-member-service-proposal

#Eden_elections : https://t.me/EdenOSinfo/39307
--CD-- : "Next generation of Delegates will be elected on July 9 2022"

#Eden_Town_Hall :
" Eden Town Hall on the Eden Discord every Sunday at the top of the hour 16:00 UTC :
https://discord.com/events/916846690626052146/989247459635114064 "

#Chief_Delegates-meet : " EdenOnEOS Chief Delegate Meeting #11 - Saturday, June 25, 2022 :
https://odysee.com/@EdenonEOS:f/CD-Meeting-Week-11-:d "

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#Chief_Delegates-meet : #12 (2022-06-30) :
"Eden Chief Delegates had their 12th meeting last week. Check out meeting notes below 👇🏼 with links to the recorded video.
Topics covered: ▶️ Accepted election administration RFP bid by Domenic, ▶️ Selected EDAO to support the contract changes, ▶️ Created top level .eden domains for apps, vote, tech, media, & NFT, ▶️ Executed the MSIG Tx to officially transfer the genesis.eden account permissions to the CDs., ▶️ Vendor reimbursement, ▶️ July 9th, 13:00 UTC election preparations 🔥👀, ▶️ Hypha as a potential DAO tool for Eden to use. "
https://bywire.news/articles/eos-chief-delegates-meeting-12

#Chief_Delegates-meet : #13 (2022-07-07) :
"EdenOnEOS Chief Delegate Meeting #13"
https://odysee.com/@EdenonEOS:f/Eden-CD-Meeting-Week-13:b

#Eden_elections : 2022-07-07 recording main room. :
"Livestream recording of the open Eden Election #3 Community Zoom Room." https://youtu.be/vag9F_2ClgM

Newly elected #EDEN_CHIEF_DELEGATES : 2022-07-09 :
"Luka - @zeropassio (Head CD), Chris - @Barnzooor, Dan - @DanSingjoy & Hahn - @hahnryu"

#Chief_Delegates_meet : 2022-07-10 :
"The newly elected Eden Chief Delegates with Yves La Rose of the ENF. Discussion on what the future holds for Eden.
https://youtu.be/Vyjr5rWpujA

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#Recap Eden Member group (week #31) incl. Saturday 2022-08-06

#Chief_Delegates-meet 3 : 2022-07-25 : "EdenOnEOS Chief Delegate Meeting #3 - Monday, July 25, 2022 - https://odysee.com/@EdenonEOS:f/Eden-Chief-Delegate-Meetings-Week-3-Odysee:4

#Chief_Delegates-meet 4 : 2022-08-01 : "EdenOnEOS Chief Delegate Meeting #4 - Monday, August 01, 2022 - https://odysee.com/@EdenonEOS:f/Eden-on-EOS-Chief-Delegate-Meeting-Week-4-Odysee:3

#EOS_Accounts : 2022-07-28 : How export EOS account history. :
--M1-- : ""Is there a way to export the entire history of an EOS account in CVS instead of page by page via bloks.io?
--M2-- : "Use the RPC API and traverse history until you reach the end and then parse the JSON to human readable format. Some examples: https://eosio.stackexchange.com/questions/1459/how-to-get-all-the-actions-of-one-account - You will need to learn some basic, but its worth it :)"

#Fractal_Fiction : 2022-07-31 : "The first ever Fractal Fiction creative writing event. https://t.me/EOSproject/1932678
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2022-08-06 https://t.me/c/1791074150/124 -
Sophia K. wrote "Little update for everyone: the story is coming together! I’ve been having so much fun writing it and Farah and Oscar have been awesome supporters. Lars, I’ll send you a copy at some point tomorrow. 😊🐲🔮🌊🤘🏼

#Eden_Discord : 2022-08-01 :
Question : "Is the Eden Discord server reserved for Eden members only or open to all?"
Answer : "Open to all - https://discord.gg/PSE4TuCW"

#Eden_future / #Workshop : 2022-08-02 : "The 3rd session for the Eden Brainstorming activity was moved to coming week. Gavriel is working on a summary in advance of the next step on this mission so a short pause between calls. Next session announced after summary is shared."

#Eden_future : "For Edens sake, Eden Needs To Value EOS Focussed Contributions" : "I’d like to think of Eden as the governance layer for the EOS blockchain, based on the principles from the book More Equal Animals. The further specifics of what “governance layer for the EOS blockchain” exactly means, need to be defined further. But I think for Eden to be recognized" - https://hive.blog/eos/@maximcincinnatis/for-edens-sake-eden-needs-to-value-eos-focussed-contributions

#Hypha : 2022-08-04 : https://t.me/c/1186628781/34139 : "We had the meeting with the Hypha DAO team to work towards Eden taking advantage of their platform as a potential tool to help us better organize ourselves. This spreadsheet is essentially a duplication of a questionnaire that was requested for us to attempt to fill out. In addition if you'd like to watch the meeting the recording can be found here . . . "

#Fractally_Eden : 2022-08-04 : "Just a quick update, Eden: As you’ve known, we’ve been working to hand off Genesis Eden so it’s in the community’s hands. That work has just completed. We’ve been working with the Edenia team, who has spun up servers, taken over accounts, and replaced the frontend. So you are now running on your own hardware."

#Eden_future : 2022-08-05 : "I agree with sentiment that Eden needs to earn its governance power in the EOS ecosystem. That's why I propose a path in which Eden could leverage economic power it creates to influence EOS governance, in a way that does not require asking the current governance system to yield its power: https://peakd.com/blockchain/@sim31/albedo-whitepaper ."

#Eden_elections : 2022-08-06 : "Eden Election (7.9.2022) Post Mortem Analysis - "Eden is an EOS Community organization that uses a new way to elect representatives known as “political playoffs”. The community completed its 3rd election on July 9th, 2022. This analysis is part of the Vote.Eden.Lead RFP set of deliverables." - https://medium.com/@domenicthomas/eden-election-7-9-2022-post-mortem-analysis-8d2292949483
""Here is the published version of the final analysis of the Vote.Eden.Lead RFP with a link to the final version of the eden election documentation: https://medium.com/@domenicthomas/vote-eden-lead-rfp-final-analysis-1ff292501d6c""

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#Recap Eden Member group (week #32) incl. Monday 2022-08-15

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#Author_Comments : The #Eden_Future in particular discussed at length past days/week with number of different views and perspectives raised.
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#Chief_Delegates-meet : 2022-08-08 : https://t.me/c/1186628781/34685 :
"View EdenOnEOS Chief Delegate Meeting #5 - Monday, Aug 8, 2022 - https://odysee.com/@EdenonEOS:f/Eden-on-EOS-Chief-Delegate-Meeting-Week-5-Odysee:0?t=922"

#Genesis_Eden_acc : 2022-08-07 : https://t.me/c/1186628781/34285 : "The genesis.eden account is now under control of the current cds. The next msig(s) will be to level out the hcd pay and increase the distribution rate from 5% to 15% as per the newly ratified bylaws."
https://bloks.io/account/genesis.eden#keys

#Fractally_related : 2022-08-08 : https://t.me/c/1186628781/34310 : "Genesis Fractal Data modelling and Simulation group just made significant discoveries . . "

#Discord_Eden : (https://discord.gg/CQU4s7gcze) : "Join the Eden Discord Server! Check out the Eden community on Discord"

#Eden_Updates : 2022-08-09 : https://t.me/c/1186628781/34353 : Head CD - "Some quick updates for the Eden community; . . "

#Eden_future : 2022-08-09 : https://t.me/c/1186628781/34376 :
--M1-- : ""I suggested a long time ago that we run an "election of ideas" simply have people prepare project pitches and use the eden election process to pick the pitches we felt should go forward. Then . . "
--M2-- : "I think experiment would not work if key condition is not met."
--M1-- : "How has eden proved its worth funding? I think we can point to a few things as being positive starts, but I'm not sure they have achieved measurable success to the point of justifying more funding."
--M2-- : "One way to figure out would be see outcome of spent funds. i dont know if the funds allocated could do anything more than operational things. At the same time, I think it has brought people who care about eos network together. created an enviroment for fostering positive discussions etc etc .. some unmeasurable things."
--M1-- : "There is certainly intangible value that has been created."
--M3-- : "If this is about Eden on EOS, it should really be the governance layer of EOS, the ENF needs to be democratic, and Eden on EOS was supposed to be that vehicle." - ""The community should have a referendum on it's purpose, and then just stick to it ruthlessly."
--M1-- : "This is absolutely the winning strategy IMO." - ""We gain influence by being effective at something and creating value that all token holders or at least most consider to be worthwhile. This will drive membership in time, but will also increase our funding, which is what will ultimately attract people.""
--M3-- : "Well said, but people are prob here for community and building a better world. I know most in this group are like that."
--M4-- : "My comment is basically directed at getting people who want and can donate their time recognition. That situation isn't one that can or should be indefinite, but this is also supposed to be built around a reputation system where when one goes above and beyond, it should be encouraged, and thus valued." - ""I encourage more people to show up to the brainstorming meetings and participate in shaping the future vision of Eden.""

#Hypha : 2022-08-11 : https://t.me/c/1186628781/34584 :
- Question: What's the status with the Hypha situation?
- Answer: "Thinking we meet Tuesday 16th at the previous time, 14:00 UTC. Once done goes back to the Hypha team to then open up the site for us."

#EOS_Respect : 2022-08-11 : https://t.me/c/1186628781/34606 :
- Question: "Is EOS Respect the EOS Support hosted / managed fork?"
- Answer: "Yes looks like it" (Author Comment - Read more here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dx_8WtHU9O4pgFcb2xjek79-a3cF2FKz/view?usp=sharing)

#EOSCommunity.org : 2022-08-14 : https://t.me/c/1186628781/34666 : Head CD - "Time has come to pay/donate for the code powering EDEN. Delegates (L1 and CDs) are asked to donate . . "
#Recap Eden Member group (WK34) posted Monday 2022-08-29

#Eden_Future / “Workshop : https://t.me/c/1186628781/34988 :
--M1-- : “wow... seemed to manifest out of the blue... I'm intrigued at what's possible
--M2-- : “I shared the workshop doc in the previous post. Here is the actual draft position paper. https://t.me/c/1186628781/35001 - “”Once we find the right balance (by consensus) of the various community interests and priorities, we can finalize the position paper accordingly.
* worker proposal system / * community delegate leadership voting system /
* community development and engagement system / * EOS blockchain governance system””
--M3-- : “That’s a nice list. great work by everyone. A small thing , maybe we can call worker proposal system as contribution incentivization system. Would it make sense to include building/maintaining bridge to hold cross chain assets? just some thoughts.”
--CD-- : “No, better bridges are being built”

#Spend_Explore : https://t.me/c/1186628781/35010 : “Sneak peak into the Spend Explore income tab. - EOSIO Spend Explorer is an open-source dApp providing tools to improve reporting and categorizing of multiple TXs executed by EOSIO accounts.”

#Permissions : https://t.me/c/1186628781/35017 : QUESTION: “Hey, quick question to the Chief Delegates in here...has the transfer of permissions taken place yet from the old CDs?
ANSWER: Yes that was done before the code changes at the beginning of the month”
--M— : “Eden namespace now under control of the current CDs.

#Eden_Membership : https://t.me/c/1186628781/35060 : --CD-- : “General question for the group: If an individual has resigned from Eden Membership, should they leave this chat also?” “”OK so then the follow on question, if we agree they should leave here, how do we make someone leave . . “”

#EOS_Rate : https://t.me/c/1186628781/35080 : “We released EOS Rate 2.0, featuring the following improvements: 🔹Users can now add comments to their ratings / 🔹Users can like or dislike user comments / 🔹New homepage layout design / 🔹Significant performance updates & general bug fixes. Go to https://eosrate.io & start rating! Eden members that rate included in eden member proxy.”

#Miscellaneous :
https://t.me/c/1186628781/35057 : “If anyone know the person or people behind goldminerxxx, mgm.gm, mgmgmgmgm.gm or eosmadrinode I'd like to speak with him/her/them . . "

#Chief_Delegates_meet : “EdenOnEOS Chief Delegate Meetings :
Meeting #6 - Monday, Aug 15, 2022 : https://odysee.com/@EdenonEOS:f/Eden-on-EOS-Chief-Delegate-Meeting-Week-6-Odysee:a
Meeting #7 - Monday, Aug 22, 2022 : https://odysee.com/@EdenonEOS:f/Chief-Delegate-Meeting-7---Eden-on-EOS---Odysee:4

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#Recap Eden Member group (WK35) posted Sunday 2022-09-04

#ENF_interview : https://t.me/c/1186628781/35132 : “Strong interview by BigBeardSamurai, good one to take in when time allow!” - https://youtu.be/FCOyKlSBkKg - “” Huobi X-Change invited Yves La Rose, EOS Network Foundation CEO, who share the topic titled “The New EOS – 1 Year Anniversary of the EOS Network Foundation” “”

#Eden_Hypha : https://t.me/c/1186628781/35136 : “Here is the recording link to the call yesterday with Joachim from Hypha. . “ - “” This Hypha DAO instance doesn't have a USD treasury, so picking 100% option for deferred for now.””

#Eden_Hypha : https://t.me/c/1186628781/35133 : “If you're looking to join the Eden community on Hypha, this link should get you going. Once you've signed up please let me know here or PM so I can approve it, then full access: . . “

#Eden_Fractal meeting #13 : https://t.me/c/1186628781/35153 : 31 Aug 2022 : https://youtu.be/eQHP3BHo04Y : “ Come participate by joining the Eden Discord Server https://discord.gg/cnhQWk7rXm

#Eden_Fractal : https://t.me/c/1186628781/35160 : “NovaCrypto LTD interview Dan Singjoy of Eden ƒractal - “Empowering Eden Contributors”. Part of EOSIO Swiss Workshop 15 - August 23rd, 2022” - https://youtu.be/dFLPEADj65w all timestamped

#Eden_Proxy : https://t.me/c/1186628781/35163 : “The Eden on #EOS Proxy has just been updated...real humans providing real rankings.” - https://twitter.com/EOS_EdenProxy/status/1566061285506252801

#Chief_Delegates_meet : “EdenOnEOS Chief Delegate Meeting #8 – September 4th, 2022 - https://odysee.com/@EdenonEOS:f/Eden-on-EOS-Chief-Delegate-Meeting-8-:4

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#Recap Eden Member group (WK37) - posted Sunday 2022-09-18

#Basic_Eden_Infra : https://t.me/c/1186628781/35317 : *A post on discussions the method used to pay for “voting site” fix/work* :
--M-- : “I do remember the donation was voluntary. But yes, it is to be taken into account the reason for not donating and I think everyone who is a delegate is accountable for the funds received. I don't think there is a mandate to provide records or anything but I certainly won't trust someone who can't provide some records. And that is just my personal opinion.”

#Author_Comments : *Starting today any “author comments” in #Recaps will look as seen here in these few words!*

#Accountability : https://t.me/c/1186628781/35011 :*Considering the discussions for many weeks and months, as relate to accountability funds received by Eden delegates, an update on the “Spend Explorer” development would be of value.*

#Eden_Treasury : https://t.me/c/1186628781/35333 :
QUESTION 1 : “Can CD join forces and drain the Eden treasury if they wanted to right now ?”
--ANSWER CD1-- : “Yes”.
QUESTION 2 : “They don't have to wait to propose bylaws and then next CD has to ratify it etc. ?”
–ANSWER CD2-- : “Nope. Thats the process that expected of us, but we have 3/4 keys on the treasury”
--M1-- : “Vote well. Don't vote for anyone in round one that you can't see as HCD.”
--CD1-- : “Bylaws are a soft set of rules.There could be rules in the bylaws that says the CDs can't move the funds, but unless those bylaws aren't accompanied with code, they can be broken. And even then, the code can be . . “

#Eden_Future : https://t.me/c/1186628781/35361 :
--CD1-- : “Lots to do! On one hand a great opportunity, on the other hand a very difficult thing to progress as participation is minimal and the purpose of this community isn't clear to all.”
--M-- : “What exactly is Eden ? I think many have their own definition and no " correct answer" exist ?”

#Hypha : https://t.me/c/1186628781/35384 / https://t.me/c/1186628781/35385 : ” There's a whole section in the blog that discusses how this will impact Eden on EOS. TLDR; Awesome tools, unlimited users, same smart contract!” – “Through an $850k grant, Hypha DAO's “Organization-in-a-Box Solution” will be significantly expanding its feature set to establish EOS as the DAO of DAOs.””
--M1-- : “"Now we're talking"! It's all coming together nicely, bit by bit. 🙏
--M2-- : “More reasons to finish developing Eden🦾🦾🦾

#Marketing : https://t.me/c/1186628781/35409 : “With all EOS action around it is a pity outsiders would still have a hard time find the core project of EdenOnEOS the https://genesis.eden.eoscommunity.org/ - It took me way to long using Google search. In end got to it but sure is hidden away. Searched . . “

#Chief_Delegates_meet : “EdenOnEOS Chief Delegate Meeting #9 – September 5, 2022 - https://odysee.com/@EdenonEOS:f/Eden-Chief-Delegate-Meeting-Week-9:1?s=35

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#Recap Eden Member group (WK38) - posted Sunday 2022-09-25

#Chief_Delegates_meet #10 & #11 : EdenOnEOS CD meetings :
- #11 - Monday, Sep 19, 2022 - https://odysee.com/@EdenonEOS:f/eos_podcast_sep_22_1.1.mov-(1080p):6
- #10 - Monday, Sep 12, 2022 - https://odysee.com/@EdenonEOS:f/Eden-Chief-Delegate-Meeting-Week-10:e

#Eden_Elections : https://t.me/c/1186628781/35594 : “Oct 8th Elections coming up fast!  Register to vote today! https://genesis.eden.eoscommunity.org/“ 

#Bylaws “Change-Draft” : https://t.me/c/1186628781/35423 - "Remove Member process." :
--CD1-- : “Draft of proposed Remove Member Dispute Resolution process. To consider for ratification by next set of CDs.”
--M1-- : “A really good start! Thanks for doing this . . “
--M2-- : “A necassary step to consider but have some concerns too.  Made some comments and maybe we can discuss.”
--CD1-- : “ya all good...nothing is perfect in a first draft.”
--CD2-- : “I think scope should be defined.”
--CD1-- : “We can add more language though...I'm definitely open to changes!!!”
--M3-- : “Didn't Dan L. have some bond scheme for this already conceptualized from a game theoretical standpoint?”
--CD1-- : “The basic ideas in this first draft is from Dan's concept, but for now suggesting we only apply it to member removal disputes...baby steps.” – “”If we introduce annual paid dues required to remain a member, then maybe non-payment of those dues will constitute a removal”” – “””The plaintiff risk collateral so maybe would first try contact non-payers and ask them to pay before simply move to have them removed”””.
--CD2-- : “Its up to L1 delegates jury.
--M4-- : “I was following the discussion here, but wasn't free to contribute at the time. Just finished adding a few suggestions.” – “”I encourage others to take a look and comment as well, maybe you see something those who've read it before you haven't.””

#Bylaws “Change-Proposal” : https://t.me/c/1186628781/35675 : “The current Eden CDs voted and unanimously put forward following set of Bylaws for consideration by the next set of CDs. If you'd like a clean version to read (without all the yellow) here you go: . .   -  Remember to Opt-In to the upcoming election which is only 2 (two) weeks away!!
--M1-- : “Reads like a good first step. A bit confusing part of the deliberation is the "asynchronous conversation".
--M2-- : “Asynchronous communication is any type of communication where one person provides information, and then there is a time lag before the recipients take in the information and offer their responses."

#EdenOS / #Basic_Eden_Infra : https://t.me/c/1186628781/35540 :
--M1-- : “I figured Edenia was sponsored during the previous term CDs... Has there been any advancement on the code base or merely ensure the next election following a substandard process during the last election?”
--CD1- “Edenia was paid for their efforts by Delegates use of their received funds. They will hopefully continue to be paid by Delegates for . . “ – “”The codebase has been modified/improved upon by Edenia. There is now . . “”
--M1-- : “Know that I value Team Edenia... on that note... if I recall, the ENF, or BPs, paid the Clarion team to develop EdenOS? So, community dispersed funds is a step forward in any regard.”
--CD2-- : “It was paid for their existing delivery, the code . . “
--M2-- : “Without looking at or summarizing the total amount delegates received from the Eden treasury since its inception, it is quite disappointing with the lack of information in this area. Even worse is the lack of interest to keep track on where funds end up and for what purpose. Eden need to establish some businesslike routines if we are to achieve what might be considered worthwhile.”

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#Recap Eden Member group (WK39) - posted Sunday 2022-10-02

#Chief_Delegates_meet #12 : “EdenOnEOS Chief Delegate Meeting #12 - Monday, Sep 26, 2022 - https://odysee.com/@EdenonEOS:f/Eden-Chief-Delegate-Meeting-Week-12:c

#Eden_future : https://t.me/c/1186628781/35950 : --CD1-- : “Trying to make a list of future opportunities for Eden...what can we as an org aspire to do/accomplish . . “  -  “”I've mentioned these before, but here's the list I've been thinking on so far: - Eden members to . . “
--M1-- : “I think eden needs to generate revenue by offering a unique service outside the governance process. The ideas so far: . . “
--CD2-- : “It provides distributed way to finance smaller teams and their projects , it self develops as  a possible future governance mechanism for eos dapps and eventually overall governance (either funding governance or block producing one). Eden is not for generating revenue, the people came together to ride this fractall governance experiment out”
--M1-- : “Without generating revenue, eden cannot become independent.”
--M2-- : “It should not exist as a way to generate revenue, but why let it’s assets sit idle?”
--M3-- : “I think EdenOnEOS is meant to provide value to EOS, there is no specific reason it has to be independent if it can prove to be doing just that, and a worthwhile investment to EOS. Eden needs to generate revenue so as to keep the experiment going if there's an interest in growing it.”

#Eden_Elections : https://t.me/c/1186628781/35980 : “October 8th is coming up fast!  Register to vote today! https://genesis.eden.eoscommunity.org/“  - 
“”Be sure to look over this document to prep for the election. EOS Support on Notion - https://eoscommunity.notion.site/Best-Practices-for-Election-Participants-2a49da390b634de4bf18b4320e11fec7 -  Best Practices for Election Participants. You can request support from our team . . “

#Eden_Elections bounty : https://t.me/c/1186628781/36005 - “Eden CDs are issuing 200 EOS bounty for technical support person for Eden members voting on the election day. Requirements;• Be technical enough and . . “

#Eden_Membership : https://t.me/c/1186628781/35990 - “In an attempt to increase engagement and participation, as well as keep you all better informed of what is happening in the EdenSphere please fill out this questionnaire, it is really important that you do or you may miss out on important developments!

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#Recap Eden Member group (WK40) - posted Sunday 2022-10-09

#Eden_elections for Term #4 : 2022-10-08 : Eden-on-EOS - Saturday October 8, 2022 - Election 4 - Public Room : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCRWUwNvAWM

#Eden_Chief_Delegates : New #EdenonEOS CDs: ▶️ @ReGenRieki ▶️ @xaviercr ▶️ @jessethan3 ▶️ @edenwaxa ▶️ @Barnzooor

#Chief_Delegates_meet #13 : https://t.me/c/1186628781/36471 : “EdenOnEOS Final CD meeting Term #3 - Monday, Oct 03, 2022 : https://odysee.com/@EdenonEOS:f/Eden-Chief-Delegate-Meeting-Week-13:3

#Eden_Community - election comments : https://t.me/c/1186628781/36066 :
--M1-- : “The lack of participation is an obstacle that would need to be tackled before moving on what would be secondary initiatives to generate more interest.”
--M2-- : “Maybe we need to give options for participants to participate as a voter or as a delegate contender.”
--M3-- : “That is how election runs already. Participants can be voter only or a candidate as well if they so wish. Candidates need agree to potentially move up. If no one agrees then random selection could not be in play.”
--CD-- : “ It has happened but usually someone says "ok fine I'll move on" “
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--M4-- : “Even the system as it stands now seems to favor those who are the best in the moment communicators.”
--M5-- : “It doesn't matter who your opponent is, just focus on your value offer, and go for it, . . “

#Eden_Membership increase : https://t.me/c/1186628781/36122 : Words by Head CD prior to election and sortition - “One page plan to increase EDEN membership. Grow Membership for EDEN Plan - Why: Election participation is decreasing. Crypto enthusiasts are not aware of the value propositions of EDEN: On-chain . . “ - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NmY2TOhGDvOpMfeTYXa_QpsS9Xyitf_dQgQmgQQB4pw/edit?usp=sharing
--M1-- : “Awesome, thank you very much. This sounds like a great plan and I’m looking forward to learning more!

#Eden_Community : https://t.me/c/1186628781/36286 : Questionnaire: “To increase engagement and participation, as well as keep you all better informed of what is happening in the EdenSphere please fill out this questionnaire, it is really important that you do or you may miss out on important developments. Using Encrypted Form CryptPad: end-to-end encrypted collaboration suite”

#Eden_OnLine : https://t.me/c/1186628781/36461 : “Here's the site that a few of us have been working on over the past 3 month - https://www.edenelections.com/ - Eden Elections | Join, Influence, Select, & Lead - The Eden up-vote election process can be learned quickly, applied to any community, used to elect leaders for any group of any size, or launch a new organization for any purpose.”
--CD1-- : “Great work on the site and video! The EDEN "Upvote Election Process" is interesting. It's good we named it, at the very least. Better than the EDEN election process, as the new name is a bit more descriptive. We finally have a proper landing page!

Eden_Accountability : https://t.me/c/1186628781/36464 : “On the Join Eden Communities page near the bottom this blue button will open a spreadsheet that I will be adding to over the next while to fill out as much as I can. This still may be useful if you want to see how much EOS a past delegate has received. Any delegate that has a link to a summary please send it to me and I'll update it, or if there are any other errors also please let me know.

FIO_Crypto_Handles : https://t.me/c/1186628781/36610 : “More FIO crypto handles created for new members: https://forums.eoscommunity.org/t/all-edenos-members-now-have-eden-fio-addresses/3462/30?u=lukestokes - Let me know if you have any questions.”

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#Recap Eden Member group (WK42) - Sunday 2022-10-23 (1 of 2)

#Chief_Delegates-meet : https://t.me/c/1186628781/37339 : #CDs term IV meeting with Yves La Rose, ENF - https://youtu.be/eCAjBY-NT78

#Recap_Teaser follow up : Purpose of Eden?/ Purpose of EOS : https://t.me/c/1186628781/36933 :
--M1-- : “Question for current Chief Delegates: From your perspective... What is the main purpose of this Eden?”
--CD1-- : “To solve problems for eos.To do so by any means that eden is capable of.”
--M1-- : “Purpose of EOS? - https://t.me/c/1186628781/36941 - If the current Chief Delegates agree the purpose of this org is to create value for the EOS network, then what is the current consensus on the main purpose of the EOS network.”
--CD1-- : “I don't see value in agreeing on one main purpose of eden. Each delegate has their own ideas and as long as it benefits eos it's sufficient.”
--CD2-- : “This purpose should evolve over time, currently Eden should focus on increasing membership and member participation.”
--CD3-- : “”Creating value for EOS ecosystem, is a broad enough statement. Due to the way the collective Eden members select CDs . . . the process in turn forms a reflection of the communities interpretation of value.”
--CD4-- : “1. . . facilitate the organization of communities of like minded individuals . ., 2. . . viable system of an up-voted governance structure . . . – Secondary goals may include funding ventures individuals or groups . . .”  -  “”The purpose of EOS as I've come to understand blockchain as a whole, is to give people greater independence and ability to independently trust transactions, . . . “” - Less cost, - Greater programmability, - More reliable code, - Faster speeds than other competitors, - (store of value yet to be seen)”
--CD5-- : “To help communities of verified humans, wherever they are, build their own versions of Eden, whatever that may be. Together. Powered by EOS"
--M2-- : “Good queries and discussion is a healthy one. Eden not yet come together toward a common objective. Maybe that's the idea. Maybe we should aim to see many options/DAOs developing within Eden and Eden Fractal.”
--M3-- : “I think we need to focus on EdenOnEOS first and then also to promote the Eden / Upvote process outside of EOS.”
--M4-- : “Question is if new communities should even use edenos, when they will get the hypha version - second question is if eden wants to migrate its ui to whatever hypha will provide.”
--M1—: “Adoption of Hypha seems like a great moment to hit the refresh button, clean up the house, and empty the trash.”
--M2-- : “Hypha set up is underway and accessible - https://dao.hypha.earth/eden - I see it as a good organisational tool for more effective and productive work by individuals and teams. Good video on Hypha - https://youtu.be/PbloPJlmQ3M”  
--CD4-- : “I agree Hypha adoption is an opportunity. But maybe "empty the trash" and "dissolving" organizations are unnecessary. Clean the house though is more along the lines my thinking, doing a bit of organizing the organization.”

#Accountability : https://t.me/c/1186628781/37068 :
--CD-- : “Any initiatives by the Delegates and Chief Delegates to establish metrics for Eden/EdenOnEOS that can justify continued funding would be welcomed by all. A Circle that might want to take this on would also be great.”
#Edenia : “We are working on an Accounting Standard for Eden Delegates that we hope will help provide useful insights and transparency on where the Eden Treasury is going. Providing more information will hopefully improve trust for continued funding. - https://forums.eoscommunity.org/t/eden-delegates-accounting-standard/5826
--M-- : “The ENF hasn't said anything one way or another about additional funding for Eden. . . The ENF continues to show support for Eden in word and deed, Yves continues to engage with the CDs and not so long ago signaled support for the new bylaws.” – “”Between Eden and Hypha the EOS Network, by way of the ENF, has invested heavily in DAO infrastructure, 825k EOS all told, of which Eden is the main beneficiary.