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#Recap Eden Members telegram group - 7 days, Saturday to Friday 2021-12-17

#EOS_Community :
Needless to say comments abound in the Eden Member group on matters relating to current state of affairs within EOS community and stakeholders. As these been expressed also elsewhere not added to this recap.

#DAO_of_DAOs :
These words - "" I'm looking for help communicating the message for the future of Eden. In particular I'm trying thinking along the lines of DAO of DAOs "" - posted by Dan Larimer and led to a rich discussion on various aspects of this concept including the "how", definition and structure of DAOs, the reward systems and more.
https://twitter.com/bytemaster7/status/1470633964230647809?s=20

#Eden_Elections :
Following some twists and turns around a new amended date for next EdenOnEOS election final words is now April 9, 13:00 UTC!
"" Hi everyone. We (Dan and members of the Clarion team) discussed your feedback regarding the accelerated election timeline. We've decided to stay the course with the currently-scheduled election (April 9, 13:00 UTC). We will NOT be moving that election date up to January as previously discussed. Thanks to all of you for raising your voices and sharing your thoughts. 🙏 ""

#Accountability :
Good discussion around weekly meetings to commence and how keep tabs on works accomplished and more. Here few snippets indicating discussion held.
- ""considering the potential new direction Eden might be going in (with weekly meetings) keeping tabs on every single community fund recipient is going to be incredibly difficult.""
- ""The point of the weekly meetings is to bring in more manpower to review prior work instead of holding people accountable to promises of future work.""
- ""Bees, support staff, etc can all report in once a week and get paid.""

A comment from Dan Larimer in connection with above discussions and payment for effort made: "" There is only one way to get massive growth and that is to OVER PAY people. It is only through over payment with competition for that OVER PAY that people will get the price signal that they should invest time with the community. If all you do is pay the "market rate", people can get that anywhere. They will not change their behavior in persuit of profit for equal pay unless they are ideologically aligned for some reason.
The key is to make sure that there is genuine competition for that OVER PAY... competition should drive up quality and quantity of contribution until OVER PAY is gradually reduced to market pay. ""

#Chief_Delegates-meet :
Here link to latest meeting and the associated words were "this is already outdated in so many ways. 😂".
My comment - Things move fast in EOS World!
https://youtu.be/KhYkiz7b_nE

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#Recap Eden Member group, 7 days Saturday-Friday 2022-04-08

#Bylaws :
-- M --: "Why do the Chief Delegate proposed Bylaws include elements of the Peace Treaty? Is a version of the Peace Treaty not in effect?"
-- CD Responses -- :
"Dan's proposed version was never ratified, we're working from the original. Bylaws and peace treaty are non-different at this point."
"We haven't changed anything. We've only issued a proposed set of changes. And Dan claimed a year to do as he pleases with this initial set of rules, . . "
"We're following 99% of the rules and have only asked for exceptions to a few that would have prohibited Eden from adopting a new election cycle."
-- M --: "I do mean to argue, I just want to be clear about what the situation is." - "Haha, subconscious typo?" "Of all of the things this organization is about... Our simple governing docs should be easy to understand and follow."
-- M1 --: "This conversation might seem redundant to some, but I applaud the efforts of those willing to make sure the i's are dotted and t's crossed."
-- M2 --: "We're coming to the end of a really long tenure that had the CDs go over many of the philosophical incompletes they were left with, painstakingly, but successfully. It's a time to celebrate their grit and tenacity in getting the rest of Eden this far in preparation for the upcoming election this Saturday."

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#Author_Comments to above few snippets. They are from a very long and detailed discussion on the CD proposal of bylaw changes. All Eden members ought to read the full discussion and become aware from where and how #EdenOnEos was "birthed". Similar words would apply to the item "Eden_future" here below.
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#Eden_future : Only few snippets from words by member posting his "Next Steps of Eden on EOS" which was discussed and worked on:
"For your consideration as we go into the next election this weekend."
"One thing that may not be clear in that checklist is the intention of establishing a value proposition and business model that includes selling our software as a service."
"Updated the image and added on to the existing bullet:
Make improvements to the site & portal (develop features for dispute resolution)."
"Updated it again to add these points as well. I propose that EOS Support is the custodian of most important things. Becuase of how reliable and trustworthy the organization is/has been."

#Accountability :
"I know I will be reluctant to vote for someone to move forward this Saturday who was a previous Delegate but didn't attempt to summarize their use of funds. It doesn't even need to be overly detailed, but a little effort here would go a long way in my eyes. Best of luck to all participating in the next election!!"

#Queries :
"Does anyone here happen to have the domain endao.io ?
Or know who does? It was registered in October 2021."

#Chief_Delegates-meet :
"Eden 1 - Chief Delegate Meeting #25 – The Last Hurrah!
Streamed live on 7 Apr 2022.
The first official Eden Chief Delegates will conclude their 6 month tenure by going LIVE on their final meeting before the election on Saturday April 9th.
https://youtu.be/r5GmCuRR67I
#Recap Eden Member group, 7 days Saturday-Friday 2022-04-22

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#Author_Comments : Over the past week discussion centered much around funding and subsequent use of funds received. Also on setting up of team/people to facilitate continuance and further development of the Eden objectives.
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# Eden_Membership :
-- M1 --: "If you're building a COLLABORATION mechanism why should it be based on COMPETITION? Or are Eden and Fractally not designed for collaboration? If so, what is a better way to describe the system that is in resonance with the mechanisms?"
-- CD1 --: "We are trying to blend two desired outcomes into the same election event - electing for leaders, and selecting projects to fund. I am favour of Eden running its election software VERY OFTEN. Weekly could work... But not for leadership. That would be for collaboration, for sharing ideas, for rewarding people for work. I love your idea of two different monthly elections... one forward-looking and one to reward past work. I think we could have parallel purposes for elections. One longer time span for leadership, and then one more often for projects and rewarding people.
-- M2 --: "Eden and fractally are designed for coopetition. Community members do all of the following: A ) Compete to help their community more than each other, B ) Cooperate to help their community C ) Cooperate to quantify helpfulness via the consensus mechanism"
-- M3 --: "Collaboration vs Competition is similar to... Centralization vs Decentralization. It's not one or the other. It's the proper balance and application of both dynamics within context."

#Accountability :
-- M1 --: "Are the Chief Delegates going to publish their individual and collective intentions as well as how they view the immediate, short-term, and long-term goals of Eden on EOS?"
-- CD1 --: "I will. I think I have been for a while now though maybe not in a succinct format"

#Funding :
-- M1 --: "I don’t see why the Chief delegates can’t vote to use the existing treasury to fund community wide initiatives. Isn’t that what it’s for? Dan just arbitrarily came up with this 5% thing, but it’s not a bylaw or anything. So we don’t have to abide by it if we don’t want to. I just think it’s a little weird to ask the ENF for more funding when we haven’t used the funding they gave us already."
-- M2 --: "Next month 9,568 EOS will be distributed to Eden Delegates. That seems like a reasonably healthy draw rate for the organization. I think we have more of an efficient use of funds to achieve targeted goals problem, vs a not enough funding problem....not that more funding isn't better, which of course it is :)"
-- M3 --: "Currently it seems like the Eden Treasury is to pay Eden Delegates to participate in the governance process and stewardship of the subjective bylaws, etc. I think we need to assemble a sub-organization of Eden Contributors who play a different role than Eden Delegates. Most “DAOs” today have Members, Delegates, and Contributors as roles."
-- M4 --: "Eden is working for the network. We should be as useful as blockproducers. Block producers get inflation, Eden should get inflation if we do meaningful work for the network."
#Recap Eden Member group, 7 days Saturday-Friday 2022-04-29

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#Author_Comments : Eden asset ownership and organizational matters much discussed this week. Another extensive topic was "Fractally" and Eden membership view of the same and views on Eden members using their time and resources in the same.
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#Accountability :
--M1-- : "Which organization should control the Eden Github repo? A capable team that replaces the Clarion/Fractally team? What are your thoughts on custodianship of Eden assets?"
--M2--: "IMO Eden as an organization should have 'Roles' that are defined by the CDs and appointed by them as well. "
--M3--: "I was thinking the same… I think Eden should do Eden. So anything that's needed to be maintained or undertaken should be done so by elected Eden Members."
--M4--: "I'd like to add that these members be subject to the same rules as the submission and change to the by laws, that is to say . . "
--M1--: "I'm not sure about this...if you have a bad actor in a role, needing to wait for a subsequent election to replace them is likely too much latency to minimize the damage that the bad actor can inflict."
--M4--: "Yeah, I'm not sure about it either, but thought the question should be discussed."
--M5--: "Eden could collaborate with Hypha . . for everything other than inducting members and electing delegates, etc? Hypha software is designed for organizational management, not just inviting members and electing delegates."
--M6--: "The thing is that the positions we are discussing should serve Eden's ultimate purpose, not the Delegates personal goals. CDs serve Eden's interests too. Just like them, a dev team delegated to take care of it on behalf Eden interest is what I picture."

#Eden_Accounting_Standard : How Eden funds allocated.
--CD1--: " Proposal Eden Accounting Standard. Feedback welcome in forum! https://forums.eoscommunity.org/t/eden-delegates-accounting-standard/5826 "
--M1--: "This is awesome. An initial question, is there a space limit to the memo field?"

#Fractally :
--CD1-- : "I am totally in favor of any Eden member deciding what is of benefit to the EOS Ecosystem and acting in that manner. Does Eden as a group consider work on ƒractally to be a good use of Eden-derived resources? (I am asking)"
--M1-- : "Considering the current mission of Eden is "To create value for the EOS ecosystem" and there has been no commitment at all from the Fractally team to include EOS in their future plans, I would vote no, this is not a good use of Eden-derived resources."
--M2-- : "If Eden Members want to move in the direction of what's proposed in the Fractally white paper, then we have a dedicated group for that. You can message me if you want the link to that group. Eden seems to have some immediate needs and short-term obstacles to overcome and it would be helpful if every member can focus on achieving the next logical steps first and foremost."
--M3-- : "My confusion is honest. Until we receive a Notice of a determination there is a surgical "divorce by splitting (or forking a chain) the code, or other Fiat"… I see EOS, EdenonEOS, and fractally as Siamese Triplets. I am convinced we should walk in sync, unless we are not "better together."
--M4-- : "There is no true or false. I don't disagree with you. The fractal paradigm is everywhere in any of the ecosystems (Eden, Hu-Fi ,EOS Bees, Fractally ...). Our society has to collaborate and EOS is the perfect example of an Everyone's Open Society."
#Recap Eden Member group, 7 days Sunday-Saturday 2022-06-11

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#Author_Comments : The recap this time with two Chief Delegate meetings - #8 on June 2 and #9 on June 9.
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#Chinese_Eden :
--M1-- : "Welcome to follow Chinese Eden, we have a separate Discord and Medium, and all proposals and election process will be posted in the EOS Community Forum. Due to limited manpower at this time, it is difficult for us to keep the English version up to date, so if anyone in the community would like to help us with translation, we would appreciate it!
Discord: https://discord.gg/fy2JYdpR
Medium: https://medium.com/@edencn
Information on past first test election and on upcoming second test election: https://forums.eoscommunity.org/c/eos/eoscn/35
Notion: https://edencn.notion.site/edencn/EDEN-827f60bd124b4d2ead39619444edf07d"
--M2-- : "Sure thing...
I'd love to invite you or any representative of it to the EOS Translation Foundation Telegram group.We want to address all this language barriers and solve them for easier interaction."
--M1-- : "We also have a DAO called EDAO, which we improved Daniel's fractally and used it to provide more support services for elected projects. Everyone in the community can get involved, do the work needed for the project, and report back at the weekly meetings for rewards."
--M2-- : "Come around. We'll be happy to help. https://t.me/EOSTranslationFoundation"

#EdenOnEOS_Benefits :
"Welcome to Eden members private group 🎉 https://help.eossupport.io/en/articles/5889843-what-are-the-benefits-of-becoming-an-eden-member"

#Fractally_related : (& Eden connected) :
"" "Don't Give Fractally the Time of Day"
This is an extreme and antagonistic statement of how we should proceed.
But I do think, we should focus on building Eden. If we want to adopt aspects of Fractally, why not. But not Fractally. In general, at the current date and time, with the information at hand, my perspective has not changed. I would not vote to "become a Fractal" of Fractally. I encourage greater focus and development of Eden, and EdenOnEOS. I don't want to draw this conversation out more than it needs to given this is Eden, and Fractally is nowhere near a state where we could evaluate its adoption.""

#Accountability :
--M1-- : "Eden members who wish to be vocal and report their CDs on not fulfilling promises should feel encouraged to do so, and ofc address the matter politely and with the respect any person deserves, as well presenting the proof of the claims."
--M2-- : "It is my understanding, that the people who elected the delegates are responsible for holding them accountable. In an ideal system, voters could have the opportunity to rate their delegates or at least make a statement as to whether they have kept their word on what they promised."
--M3-- : "Ideally what would be of use is a place where public comments/questions/concerns can be posted about each Eden Delegate. There the Delegate could publicly respond to defend themselves, or even just to explain their thinking for deviating from a promise or something."

#Chief_Delegates-meet :
"EdenOnEOS Chief Delegate Meeting #8 - Thursday, June 1, 2022 - https://odysee.com/@EdenonEOS:f/Chief-Delegate-Meeting-8:8
"Notes from the CD meeting #8: https://bywire.news/articles/eos-chief-delegates-meeting-8"

"EdenOnEOS Chief Delegate Meeting #9 - Thursday, June 9, 2022 - https://odysee.com/@EdenonEOS:f/Eden-CD-Meeting-Week-9:5
"Notes from CD meeting #9: https://bywire.news/articles/eos-chief-delegates-meeting-9

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#Recap Eden Member group, up to & including Sunday 2022-07-24

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#Author_Comments : A number of topics extensively discussed these past weeks and has been in area of fundamentals from a wide range of viewpoints. Among these #MyvoteEOS, #Inductions, #Eden_elections, #Infrastructure, #EDAO, #Funding, #Treasury, #Governance, #Bylaws and more. #Recaps do not reflect much, if any at all, of these intense discussions. This because it is quite impossible to give a fair balanced view of these discussions in the short #recap format.
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#EOS_distribution? : 2022-07-10 :
--M1-- : "Is there anywhere one can go to see EOS distribution worldwide?"
--M2-- : "You can see geo distribution of inflation to BPs here - https://mainnet.eosio.online/rewards-distribution"
--M1-- : "Thanks, I'll check it out. Still having to make a series of assumptions here such as: . . "

#Eden_Delegates : 2022-07-10 : "Eden Season 3 Delegates channel has been set up, for current delegates to coordinate and stay in contact with other delegates of this seasons election."

#Eden_elections / #Accountability :
--M1-- : "Does anyone have an expense list for Eden elections? I'm curious where most of the costs come from. From first contact interview with Yves it sounds that it's really expensive."
--CD-- : "Here is a summary of the bids, . . "
--M2-- : "There was shockingly low participation from Eden members on that Vote.Eden Lead RFP."

#Dispute_Resolution / #Induction : 2022-07-12 : "I'd argue we need the dispute resolution before the removal/reduction of entry friction, depending on how much friction we're removing. We may also need a way to report people mid election if they won't/can't turn their camera on."

#FIO_Crypto_Handles : 2022-07-12 : "Wanted to let everyone know I added 123 more FIO Crypto Handles for Eden members: https://forums.eoscommunity.org/t/all-edenos-members-now-have-eden-fio-addresses/3462/29?u=lukestokes - They used to be called FIO Addresses). If everyone mapped addresses to various blockchains, we might be able to engage those chains to do Eden specific airdrops, knowing Sybil attack is impossible as it’s one handle per person."

#Eden_future : 2022-07-13 :
--M1-- : "Eden offers a process to distribute funds in a beautiful democratic way. This part is awesome. But I think the main problem with Eden is that it doesn't promote leadership for the community. During the election, many . . . "
--CD1-- : "Leadership over what tho. Over its own treasury? Sure, that much is obvious but when we try to govern other bigger system, while not proving we can even properly run eden, then... it looks like a naive proposition"
--CD2-- : ""Leadership" doesn't need to be interpreted as governing EOS, although that can certainly be a lofty goal that we can shoot for, and even there 'governing' EOS is full of nuance, and not binary."
--M2-- : "I would start by saying that there were a lot of concepts circulated in the community initially as to the vision for Eden. Then there wasn’t much follow up on some of those things and it all sort of took a life of its own. The biggest . . "

#Eden_future / #Workshop : 2022-07-13 : " What is Eden to Ourselves & to the World" :
--CD-- : "Join us for a manual Eden-style event on digging into why we're here. 🤔 We're looking to have the first of what will likely be a couple group calls on brainstorming what Eden is, and more importantly what can it become. 🚀"
--M1-- : "I expanded some ideas in the current election and will continue to advocate for a product management approach to Eden’s evolution. This morning I published an article on governance largely in reflection of the recent Eden election, available at linkedin or medium:
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/how-govern-your-self-others-world-web3-gavriel-shaw or
https://medium.com/@gavriel/how-to-govern-your-self-others-and-the-world-in-web3-a3bb82a07ea2 Very much looking forward to facilitating these workshops."
#Recap Eden Member group (WK#33) incl. Saturday 2022-08-20

#-#-# Author_Comments
: Level of friction upped a bit discussing treasury distribution to the delegates and the payment process related to work done for Eden. This and related topics dominated the week. "What ends well is all well" is a saying I value (at times) and is how I judge the conclusion of discussions held during this week. #-#-#

#Eden_elections / #Accountability : https://t.me/c/1186628781/34748 :
--CD1-- : "Friendly reminder to current Eden Delegates. 👋🏼 Considering your received funding went up substantially for this Aug Distribution
▶️ 683 EOS for Aug vs the 159 EOS received for July
It would be very much appreciated if you would be willing to donate half of your recent distribution amount (341 EOS) to the bucket (https://www.bloks.io/account/edenia4edens) for team Edenia that have successfully transferred Eden infrastructure over to Tech.Eden Circle."
--M1-- : "Happy to support Eden independence with the delegate funds."
--CD2-- : " . . to me only legit reason not to pay is not agreeing with the cost accrued . . "
--M2-- : "Can someone provide the invoice with cost breakdown. Would like to review first."
--Edenia-- " : We view Eden as a client and we pride ourselves in providing any supporting information to the work we do for our clients. You are in every right to ask for more information and I’m happy to do so. We . . " https://t.me/c/1186628781/34903
--M3-- : "Thank you for the explanation and itemizing the work that was done in a clear manner that I hope most of us can better understand."
--M4-- : "We talked about the need for a procurement circle, and then about the need for the same procurement process across all circles, which calls for a standard procurement system to be decided on and built. But in order to have fair, public . . "
--M5-- : "Given that we have a functioning smart contract and regular elections, we could pretty easily do everything else we want with a spreadsheet and public agreements. There will never be a perfect tool. It's just a matter of political will. There's really nothing standing in the way. I've been watching this discussion . . " https://t.me/c/1186628781/34979

#Eden_future / #Workshop : https://t.me/c/1186628781/34987 :
"Everyone is invited to carefully review the draft Eden position paper that is being community sourced out of branding workshops we have recently held. Once locked in . . "

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#Recap Eden Member group (WK37) - posted Sunday 2022-09-18

#Basic_Eden_Infra : https://t.me/c/1186628781/35317 : *A post on discussions the method used to pay for “voting site” fix/work* :
--M-- : “I do remember the donation was voluntary. But yes, it is to be taken into account the reason for not donating and I think everyone who is a delegate is accountable for the funds received. I don't think there is a mandate to provide records or anything but I certainly won't trust someone who can't provide some records. And that is just my personal opinion.”

#Author_Comments : *Starting today any “author comments” in #Recaps will look as seen here in these few words!*

#Accountability : https://t.me/c/1186628781/35011 :*Considering the discussions for many weeks and months, as relate to accountability funds received by Eden delegates, an update on the “Spend Explorer” development would be of value.*

#Eden_Treasury : https://t.me/c/1186628781/35333 :
QUESTION 1 : “Can CD join forces and drain the Eden treasury if they wanted to right now ?”
--ANSWER CD1-- : “Yes”.
QUESTION 2 : “They don't have to wait to propose bylaws and then next CD has to ratify it etc. ?”
–ANSWER CD2-- : “Nope. Thats the process that expected of us, but we have 3/4 keys on the treasury”
--M1-- : “Vote well. Don't vote for anyone in round one that you can't see as HCD.”
--CD1-- : “Bylaws are a soft set of rules.There could be rules in the bylaws that says the CDs can't move the funds, but unless those bylaws aren't accompanied with code, they can be broken. And even then, the code can be . . “

#Eden_Future : https://t.me/c/1186628781/35361 :
--CD1-- : “Lots to do! On one hand a great opportunity, on the other hand a very difficult thing to progress as participation is minimal and the purpose of this community isn't clear to all.”
--M-- : “What exactly is Eden ? I think many have their own definition and no " correct answer" exist ?”

#Hypha : https://t.me/c/1186628781/35384 / https://t.me/c/1186628781/35385 : ” There's a whole section in the blog that discusses how this will impact Eden on EOS. TLDR; Awesome tools, unlimited users, same smart contract!” – “Through an $850k grant, Hypha DAO's “Organization-in-a-Box Solution” will be significantly expanding its feature set to establish EOS as the DAO of DAOs.””
--M1-- : “"Now we're talking"! It's all coming together nicely, bit by bit. 🙏
--M2-- : “More reasons to finish developing Eden🦾🦾🦾

#Marketing : https://t.me/c/1186628781/35409 : “With all EOS action around it is a pity outsiders would still have a hard time find the core project of EdenOnEOS the https://genesis.eden.eoscommunity.org/ - It took me way to long using Google search. In end got to it but sure is hidden away. Searched . . “

#Chief_Delegates_meet : “EdenOnEOS Chief Delegate Meeting #9 – September 5, 2022 - https://odysee.com/@EdenonEOS:f/Eden-Chief-Delegate-Meeting-Week-9:1?s=35

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#Recap Eden Member group (WK42) - Sunday 2022-10-23 (1 of 2)

#Chief_Delegates-meet : https://t.me/c/1186628781/37339 : #CDs term IV meeting with Yves La Rose, ENF - https://youtu.be/eCAjBY-NT78

#Recap_Teaser follow up : Purpose of Eden?/ Purpose of EOS : https://t.me/c/1186628781/36933 :
--M1-- : “Question for current Chief Delegates: From your perspective... What is the main purpose of this Eden?”
--CD1-- : “To solve problems for eos.To do so by any means that eden is capable of.”
--M1-- : “Purpose of EOS? - https://t.me/c/1186628781/36941 - If the current Chief Delegates agree the purpose of this org is to create value for the EOS network, then what is the current consensus on the main purpose of the EOS network.”
--CD1-- : “I don't see value in agreeing on one main purpose of eden. Each delegate has their own ideas and as long as it benefits eos it's sufficient.”
--CD2-- : “This purpose should evolve over time, currently Eden should focus on increasing membership and member participation.”
--CD3-- : “”Creating value for EOS ecosystem, is a broad enough statement. Due to the way the collective Eden members select CDs . . . the process in turn forms a reflection of the communities interpretation of value.”
--CD4-- : “1. . . facilitate the organization of communities of like minded individuals . ., 2. . . viable system of an up-voted governance structure . . . – Secondary goals may include funding ventures individuals or groups . . .”  -  “”The purpose of EOS as I've come to understand blockchain as a whole, is to give people greater independence and ability to independently trust transactions, . . . “” - Less cost, - Greater programmability, - More reliable code, - Faster speeds than other competitors, - (store of value yet to be seen)”
--CD5-- : “To help communities of verified humans, wherever they are, build their own versions of Eden, whatever that may be. Together. Powered by EOS"
--M2-- : “Good queries and discussion is a healthy one. Eden not yet come together toward a common objective. Maybe that's the idea. Maybe we should aim to see many options/DAOs developing within Eden and Eden Fractal.”
--M3-- : “I think we need to focus on EdenOnEOS first and then also to promote the Eden / Upvote process outside of EOS.”
--M4-- : “Question is if new communities should even use edenos, when they will get the hypha version - second question is if eden wants to migrate its ui to whatever hypha will provide.”
--M1—: “Adoption of Hypha seems like a great moment to hit the refresh button, clean up the house, and empty the trash.”
--M2-- : “Hypha set up is underway and accessible - https://dao.hypha.earth/eden - I see it as a good organisational tool for more effective and productive work by individuals and teams. Good video on Hypha - https://youtu.be/PbloPJlmQ3M”  
--CD4-- : “I agree Hypha adoption is an opportunity. But maybe "empty the trash" and "dissolving" organizations are unnecessary. Clean the house though is more along the lines my thinking, doing a bit of organizing the organization.”

#Accountability : https://t.me/c/1186628781/37068 :
--CD-- : “Any initiatives by the Delegates and Chief Delegates to establish metrics for Eden/EdenOnEOS that can justify continued funding would be welcomed by all. A Circle that might want to take this on would also be great.”
#Edenia : “We are working on an Accounting Standard for Eden Delegates that we hope will help provide useful insights and transparency on where the Eden Treasury is going. Providing more information will hopefully improve trust for continued funding. - https://forums.eoscommunity.org/t/eden-delegates-accounting-standard/5826
--M-- : “The ENF hasn't said anything one way or another about additional funding for Eden. . . The ENF continues to show support for Eden in word and deed, Yves continues to engage with the CDs and not so long ago signaled support for the new bylaws.” – “”Between Eden and Hypha the EOS Network, by way of the ENF, has invested heavily in DAO infrastructure, 825k EOS all told, of which Eden is the main beneficiary.
#Recap Eden Member group (WK50) - Sunday 2022-12-18
(Post 1 of 3)

#Eden_Sybil protection : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39463 :
--M1-- : "QUESTION: "Whats the plan?"
--CD-- : "Contract automatically issues SBT when you vote"
--M2-- : "Created github repo for ntt and badge issuer. ntt repo is ... - ... and badge issuer repo is ... - ... . Working on hashing out further details in these."
--M1-- : "thnx, will check"
--M2-- : "This is the latest code - ..."

#Eden_future survey : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39547 : "Would you (or anyone reading this) be willing write out a short list of:
A. What you believed/expected Eden to be when joining vs what you experience it as.
B. What changes since Genesis do you disagree/agree with?"

#Eden_Horizons : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39620 : "For those wanting to just watch the "3 Horizons of Eden" part of last CD's session (*as I'm still looking for more feedback from members here*) - It's a first attempt at bringing together all the offerings of Eden into a simple format. - https://youtu.be/qj4ULqtfVNs - Let me know what I'm missing!"

#Eden_Poll 1 : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39550 : "Stance on the 500k EOS donation to Eden from B1 - *May select multiple options* - Any major stances missing?"

#Eden_Poll 2 : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39845 : "Member dues are currently on the table for consideration for by-laws changes. - At Genesis Eden membership dues were ~$50. Today it's ~$3. What range should dues be? ... "

#Eden_Poll 3 : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39853 : "Should polls remain anonymous? For: Decreases potential for retribution against members and their positions Against: Increases potential for non-members/Sybil/bots/etc to manipulate a poll ... "

#Eden_Poll 4 : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39859 : "Should Membership Dues be charged: ... - *Choose multiple options you support*"

#Eden_Poll process : "You can always go back and change your vote if things change based on discussion :). Just click on the poll text and click "retract vote" and vote again. All polls in the "Eden Sense Making" channel will remain open for voting, so new members can go and add their sentiments when they join and existing members can go and update their perspectives at any time."

#Eden_UpVote_bot test 1 : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39582 : "I want to see how people respond when they are not prepared, its better stress test that way. Simulates chaos :). The links and all the instructions will be shared in tester group" - "The Up Vote Bot test was successful, thank you everyone who joined. ..."

#Dispute_Resolution : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39638 :
--CD-- : "Dispute resolution system - Recap: 1. Person A wants to remove Person B, 2. A finds 3 other members to endorse B’s removal, 3. A posts $ ... - ... 12. If defendant wins, B gets ... "
--M1-- : "I've not studied the proposed model in that much depth yet but what jumps out at me is that 2 weeks is too short a time period. No member should need to check in every thirteen days or risk being removed in absentia. At the very least, a month. I mean, you could go on holiday and be removed before you got back."

#Eden_Funds distribution : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39790 : "The last payments will be for the remaining time of Current CDs, so the payment will be pro rated to 1 day. After the election a new distribution for the next 30 days will be available for newly elected delegates. - https://t.me/c/1186628781/39800 : "Eden distributes funds in advance. You ... "

#Accountability : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39807 : "There should be accountability towards where the money is being put to use. Hopefully next set of CDs use the spend explorer tools - https://spending.eden.eoscommunity.org"

#Bylaws : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39810 : QUESTION: "Anyone have a handy link to current bylaws?" - ANSWER: https://www.edenelections.com/eden-bylaws"
#Recap Eden Member group - up to end of 31 Dec, 2022, (UTC) - (Post 5 of 7)

#Eden_future 21 Dec, 2022 : https://t.me/c/1186628781/41443 :
--M1-- : ""... In my view the challenge to those who want to be CDs and leaders of Eden moving forward, how do you take this moment of divisiveness and find enough common ground to move this experiment forward with the needs, concerns and desires of both sides kept in constant esteem and consideration?""
--M2-- : ".. an excellent summary of where focus needs to be."
--M3-- : "Don't just think about the glorious accomplishments you will have, small things too are also worthy of our attention, and necessary for proper functioning of this org."
--M4-- : "To me Eden is a governance process that allocates resources towards projects that help EOS. Pretty straightforward."

#Eden_3_Horizons Dec 23, 2022 : https://t.me/c/1186628781/41842 : "... What's currently being attempted with the "3 horizons of Eden" model is a start to clarify our shared compass (Where are we going and why would others want to join. And what's is the common thread behind the various projects and proposals seeking funding. Or simply, what is Eden?). ..." - https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/13MlKUPPs4zZFrFzIlQS9UnTcUwKNsSvFWIqBcmIxJLA/edit?usp=drivesdk

#Eden_Poll 4 of these from CDs : Dec 19, 2022 - https://t.me/c/1186628781/40865 : "#Recap partial repeat, for easy find, of these 4 member polls, just in case you not yet given your voice!"

#Eden_Poll - 22 Dec, 2022: https://t.me/c/1186628781/41551 :
--M1-- : " ... I think polling is an art and a science, and we may need to begin at the beginning to discern which questions need to be asked in what order, and ... "
--CD.. : "Good points. Hard to find a balance btw simplicity and details. Hopefully we can start a culture of polling in EDEN and no doubt we will get better."
--M2-- : "Polls currently are binary (yes/no), I mean that could be extended with some texts arguments . I think Consortium could be extented."
--M3-- : "Also we need to come up with ways for more engagement for a more accurate outcome, having 10 participants doesn’t tell you anything"

#Accountability_Transparency : https://t.me/c/1186628781/41577 :
--CD-- "If any Delegate would like to let us know here or in PM I will update this tracker with the results ... " - "If you were a previous Delegate and have a summary that is missing ... " - https://t.me/c/1186628781/43155
--M-- : "No excuse not to display how .. - https://spending.eden.eoscommunity.org/"
--M2-- : "Tried to use spend explorer yet?"

#Eden_Delegate_Roles : https://t.me/c/1186628781/41676 :
--CD-- : "What is CDs Job? Is there a clear job description somewhere? I believe it would be helpful to explicitly state in the bylaws what Rights and responsibilities we're expecting from each layer of delegates. ... "
--M1-- : "Fundamentally the role of CDs is to help the community fulfil its own defined mission as developed in our series of community workshops which ..." - https://t.me/c/1186628781/41428
--CD-- : "... What you're sharing here I believe is critical organising needs to help this community and I started with the assumption that CD's would meet this need as well (and why ... "
--M2-- : "If we are inserting personal preferences, I would much rather see teams coming to get funding for their specific piece of the puzzle, and get their representative voted in ... "
--M1-- : "Yeh perhaps a mix of CD focuses and talents. To be clear, which bit should CDs not all be doing?"
--M3 : "The challenge is how to design the long-term strategies that delegates and CD can align with constantly regardless of who makes it to the top"
--M4-- : "This is one of the best experiments in decentralization around. It's success is up to each of you/us. What should we be doing? This isn't the only place that argues. I think ..."

#Eden_Sybil protection : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39463 :
--M1-- : "QUESTION: "Whats the plan?"
--CD-- : "Contract automatically .. "
--M1-- : "thnx, will check"
--M2-- : "This is the latest code - ..."