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if you did not hhavve a logically sound basis and yoou are not just rehashing crap then honestly move on

there are billions of flicking bloody telegram groups

find one

I am off for the night and I expect no more from any of this shit

thee simple answer that none of you seem to get is that you are sitting in a forum casually talking with a guy who has more inventions than Tesla and Einstein and

Edison combined

and if you don't like that

piss off

I'm not here to make you a friend

very simply put, I'm not interested in your crap if you don't like things

very very simply put I don't need to be here and more importantly I won't be if people keep coming up with bullshit stories that are anti-competitive

I don't want to be in the same planet as socialist assholes

sso I certainly won't be in the same forums

The fucking end

CSW
Aug, 22, 2021
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CSW
Aug 23, 2021
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I would like to make something very clear as we go forward. Bitcoin is not a community project. Bitcoin has never been a community project. Bitcoin will never be a community project.

The entire concept of decentralized finance that is being promoted is a scam. There is no such thing as equality, and equality is not fair. Bitcoin is not designed to promote any socialist crap around equality or egalitarian bull shit. If you don’t like how bitcoin works, too bad. It is capitalist, is competitive and is based on my philosophy of life.

I’ve stated this before, and I will state it again.
Bitcoin is not anti-bank; it is not anti-government, and it is not designed to enable get rich quick schemes, Ponzi’s or financial fraud. Instead, it is designed to aid in money laundering and tracing cases and for law enforcement to freeze and seize when necessary.

The protocol in bitcoin is the contract. Contracts are binding, and if you believe that something breaches the contract, there is a way of determining this, which is called the legal process and court.

If you are not a miner, a.k.a. node, then quite frankly, what are you complaining about? The players in the system are the ones that need to be concerned, not the home users.
If you see a problem, you can take action against a node if it breaches the rules and you are affected.

That is if you are. Otherwise, none of your God damn business.

From a user point of view, or you care about is that your transaction is processed, that you are not being double spend, that you have not been cheated. The rest is none of your God damn concern. You can monitor the network or you want and try and find where people are doing things wrong and if you want you can take action. It’s called a court of law.

After spending twelve years publicly promoting this at my own expense, having spent a decade before that working on this at my own expense, I am utterly fed up with people who have no skin in the game whining about it. I have no time for it any more and I won’t put up with that at all.

If you have an issue, do something about it and shut the fuck up.

Firstly, there are stupid questions. There are fucking dumb ass stupid questions that shouldn’t be answered because they are too stupid to consider. Questions that have been answered fifty times are just as bad.

If you think you have a right, stick your head up your ass and see if you can breathe.

If you have not invested money in my system, then I have no obligation to you.
If you think that owning some bitcoin is investing, then you are too dumb for me to answer. Investing is building systems. Gambling is speculating. If you don’t get the difference, I don’t have the time for you.

I do a lot of time to people who ask sensible questions and even sometimes those who asked completely stupid questions that haven’t been asked before. However, I do not owe you anything. If you think that using my system means that I have an obligation to you beyond making sure that the unilateral contract and protocol as such are upheld, you have something to learn.

If you think you are owed by being nice to you because you’re here, you have fucking two brain cells that need to be drowned in alcohol because they’re already fucking worthless.

I give a shit about my system. I give enough of a shit that I’ve sacrificed time for my family throughout my life, that have merely been bankrupted multiple times, that my children have gone without on many occasions in order to build this.

So quite frankly, if you want a bitch about what you think nodes should be doing. If you want to complain to me that the system doesn’t work the way you wanted to. Honestly, go fuck yourself. But fuck off from here first.

CSW
Aug 23, 2021
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I said last night that I was not going to put up with any of this anymore, and I’m making sure that you understand this. I give a lot of time to a lot of people. That does not make me obligated to do so. If you think otherwise, go fuck yourself.

If you think that my being capitalist and wanting people use my system means I have to be nice to you.
Go fuck yourself and go fuck your mother. Do that in true Chinese crappy ASIC making fashion.

I hope I’m clear.
As far as I’m concerned, this is zero tolerance.

Those who ask stupid questions and piss me off more than once can go fuck themselves. Because they won’t be in anywhere that I am and if they’re in here I won’t be.

CSW
Aug 23, 2021
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CSW
Aug 23, 2021
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Wonder why I get angry when people do stupid things and make stupid comments; I want you to think about what it will be like to have people shit on you and your invention for ten years plus.

Now that everything I say is picked apart by morons who cherry-pick parts of the conversation, I want you to think. I want you to consider how people then spend their life telling me how bitcoin should work. I want you to consider that maybe I’ve heard it all before.

I want you to remember that I proposed bitcoin is a combination of a legal research project in 2007 that was accepted and a subsequent dissertation for my masters in statistics that was rejected. Back then, I was told that it’s all been done before, and it was nothing special.

I want you to think that maybe years of being told by every man and their dog, including friends and family, about how you’re wasting your life probably means that I’ve heard all of your arguments about the problems with bitcoin before you even heard about bitcoin. Before you even knew that it existed, even if you were there in 2009, I’d already heard your arguments.

So when you try and tell me the bitcoin needs to be encrypted or that the communication channels need to be secured between nodes and the Internet, been there done that don’t care.

IP to IP exchange of transactions needs authentication to ensure that the individuals talking have not had a man in the middle attack. However, even this does not require encryption. It does not require TLS and other tunnels to make it secure. Other methodologies work, particularly where the individuals already know each other or have some other key, a transaction can be exchanged securely without any encryption ever existing.

The main reason I liked IP to IP over IPV6, if it ever gets to be working, was that it includes an authentication header mode. The same can be implemented in IPsec. In addition, it does not require encryption.

Before you pre-empt me and try and tell me that you need encryption to ensure privacy and to protect communications, I will simply tell you that you’re utterly wrong.

You do not need encryption to secure communications.

You do not need encryption to ensure privacy.

You do not need encryption on webpages

TLS and other forms of encryption over the web including SSL.3 are inefficient and can be replaced

when you're going to a website you can retain private information and exchannnges without ever needing to encrypt

so, all of the bull shit that you hear is wrong

you need to be able to authenticate and validate data

you do not need encryption for this

when you are sending information back and forwards between websites, you do not need encryption to stop individuals from viewing and modifying the data that is being sent back and forth between the user and the server

all any of this does is make life morre difficult for the people running the site

in fact, you can run Web servers for banking applications without ever encrypting data

and it can be even more secure than any web application today

and if you think I'm wrong, I don't give a shit you need to learn something more

To those who believe otherwise I will quote a little bit of Hamlet by Shakespeare...

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

yes, it is possible to make a distributed certificate authority that removes all of the existing vulneraabilities and problems that are a feature of PKI

and I say they are a feature because this is the key aspect of PKI that makes it vulnerable

in fact, there is no reason to suppose that everything needs to be kept on a serveer side application and that the current cliient side processinng can be shared and accessed using a web wallet type appplicaation

PKI is vulnerable to many many problems that being just one of them

CSW
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you can have an identity key structure that will allow for the creation of cookie type data that is stored on your system that can be fed back when needed to the server

this can be completely private without going through existing encryption schemeas and can be updated in a manner that provides both an evidence trail and traderr traciing capabiilitiess while simultaneously maintaining privacy

you could theoreticallyy even have an open telnet type protocol that can be monitored by system administrators over seccure links that is not available to others that uses token exchanges that are secure and cannot be replicated or copied

in that way, you could completely authenticate telnet while having it open and in clear text

any use of privilege would be authenticated

SSH

I have thought about all of this and there are better ways of doing it

the use of SSH greatly restricted the ability of a system administrator to monitor and control the security of the system

it becomes much easier to monitor attacks using telnet than it does SSH but, the probllem here is that people can hijack sessions and replicate information

all of that can be protected and stopped

if you don't have a Blockchain then you don't have the time limitations on replay

all of this requires a Blockchain even when you then have payment channels and other methodologies

trust me, every single thing I'm talking about here is the antithesis of whatt the cypherpuunk movement wants

they want anonymity

they want anarchy

I don't

When you have a real debate I don't miind. If you're willing to support your claims with evidence and to honestly debate I'm very happy to have a debate.

honestly means that when there are counterexamples you admitt it

The reason people say that I've changed my mind on certain topics ( which by the way does not include anything to do with bitcoin) is that I do not stick to dogma and update my belief structure and my knowledge as I find tthings that are new

there will always be areas that people disagree because knowledge is not complete in any field

but, there are things that are easily discrediited

CSW
Aug 23, 2021
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CSW
Aug 24, 2021
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https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/db7b8908-05c9-11ec-a644-d92df3a28bb3?shareToken=d509427e01e16a31c4434f7e70a8f22c

CSW
Aug 26, 2021
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CSW
Aug 30, 2021
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The really big thing that all the people who hate me don’t want to start asking is why Satoshi has not come out anonymously and signed a block or done something else that would discredit me if I am not Satoshi.

There is never any evidence or logical reason put forth. The entirety of the attacks against me are based on ad hominem and other logical fallacies. When I demonstrate errors in their arguments, we move into special pleading. They move the goalposts and avoids creating exceptions for when their claims are demonstrated to be false. When they talk about anything I’ve said, they make it into a strawman, which is a form of misrepresenting someone else’s argument to make it easier to attack.

They continually beg to create circular arguments about decentralisation that include an appeal to (false) authority based on the premise that Satoshi must be a cypherpunk. Yet, no evidence was ever presented that Satoshi is a cypherpunk. Rather, they make easily debunked claims and then create a fallacy of composition and division where the creative assumption that what is true about one part of bitcoin must apply to all parts of bitcoin. That is, there is a component used in digital signature algorithms that also applies to cryptography, so therefore, it must be encrypted. But, such an assumption is false. For example, hashing is also used in managing databases, as are digital signature algorithms without these being encrypted.

The attacks against me being Satoshi form no true Scotsman arguments. If you say that I did something, I can’t be at or can’t be something because that’s not what a true believer would do.

The ad hominem attack also leads to the genetic attack. In this, the crypto-anarchists claim that because I’m bad (in their worldview), my arguments must be bad (for everybody). Yet, there is a reason why the genetic fallacy is a logical fallacy. Whilst I am not the character they want to make me into, the source of an argument isn’t a valid attack against an argument. So, for example, to say but Hitler was a vegetarian, so, therefore, vegetarians are wrong is not a good argument. Even the argument of personal incredulity is irrelevant because just because you don’t understand something does not make it false.

Even the move to appeal to emotion is itself a fallacy. This, in part, is used with a Tu quoque so that they can neglect to make an argument at all.

So very simple for them, they can claim that Satoshi might be dead. But, that claim comes with counter-attacks. It assumes that Satoshi has no family, nobody who cared for him, and that person was an isolated individual who left no evidence or people in that individual’s life who could know anything about bitcoin. They will claim Hal Finney, but there’s a problem with Hal Finney that can be easily demonstrated in court. Hal Finney wasn’t able to post throughout much of 2010. This was when I was most active as Satoshi online publicly. At times when direct updates were being made, Hal Finney was in an NMRi machine which precludes using a computer, of course.

Another all sorts of other claims of this sort, and all of those are easy to be discredited. But before you even get there, the assumption has a logical contradiction. They are assuming that somebody such as Hal Finney that is creating an evidence trail that can be used in collecting improving the proof of evidence over time as its extended, would also want to lie to their family. And this is a key point. Hiding that level of involvement in creating bitcoin from your family and all of the motions of how it was created and what you own is in fact a form of lying.

CSW
Aug 30, 2021
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So the claim about Satoshi being hidden begs the question of why Satoshi doesn’t do anything if I’m not Satoshi. If you think about it momentarily, all Satoshi would need to do to discredit me under the code is law mantra is to start sending messages using the original bitcoin keys and prove that the PGP key wasn’t changed in 2011 and find some form of evidence linking it earlier. Show my claim that the Genesis block doesn’t have a key to be false, for instance.

The alternative claim could even be made that if Satoshi did exist and wasn’t me, Satoshi clearly supports what I’m doing. Of course, this will be cherry-picked and taken out of context because I am Satoshi, but this could be altered to read differently without the full phrase that I’m saying in the sentence.

So, if the claim being made by those who oppose me that I’m not Satoshi was, in fact, true, and the second claim that Satoshi also does not believe in having bitcoin under the law is also true; why doesn’t Satoshi or Satoshi’s family or Satoshi’s friends or somebody in Satoshi’s life come forth and simply state how I am doing wrong.

This is a question for them, and they go to court. But, you see, courts don’t work by social media. There is no proof of social media (PoSM) in an English court.

The claim that bitcoin can allow anonymity and that you can use taught to hide your transactions must itself be taken into account when we consider the claim that Satoshi is afraid of posting using the Genesis block (which doesn’t have a key, but they argue does) with a so-called signed message. If they are correct, logically, Satoshi (me) would be able to easily and completely anonymously send out a message discrediting me.
Why is there no message?

Ironically, they’re arguing that Satoshi isn’t me but supports what I’m doing. If you think about it logically for two minutes, you will start to understand that if I’m not Satoshi, then Satoshi completely supports me. You will come to understand that if I’m not Satoshi, Satoshi agrees with my using the courts to discredit the cypherpunk mantra that “code is law” and to redistribute BTC using a legal process.

Satoshi can sign is not something that works in court. To form a signature, you need to have an identity before creating a signature. So, Satoshi consigned doesn’t work in a court of law. To use a digital signature algorithm for signing requires that you prove that you have held the key and have identified prior to the time that you are starting to have first obtained it.

That is, in 2008, I would have needed to legally notarise a document categorically proving my identity to be able to sign using one of the early keys now. Possession doesn’t give you the ability to assume identity. Moreover, a digital signature algorithm doesn’t create a digital signature until after the key is registered. Moreover, even if the key is registered you can only create a digital signature after the time that it was first registered.

The most significant thing to remember is that the case is not being tried on Twitter or other social media; it is tried in a court of law. Logic and not social media claims matter.

like copyright, and other person can go to court and contest ownership

@B They say Satoshi could be dead, but as I said, this comes with counterarguments in itself. Satoshi must then be an unknown individual without family.

Satoshi must be completely secretive and have no evidence. There cannot be any computers. There cannot be any other information that Satoshi left. You are not thinking this through adequately when you make that statement. Remember, this will be in a court of law. It is no good simply saying that anymore. If Satoshi died, there would be computers and other records.

CSW
Aug 30, 2021
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You start getting into a ridiculous situation. You start saying that Satoshi was this loner that never had any interaction with people. Even going down that rabbit hole lead you to problems.

You cannot trace a digital signature algorithm by its use. If Satoshi isn’t me he would still know this.
Not that you might be able to but you cannot it is impossible it is infeasible it is undoable.

I truly don't care about the diehards

they will be removed from every form of social media they get to use right now

after a court case, if Twitter doesn't actively start removing these people... That won't be a Twitter

TOR etc

There are many ways of sending to the Blockchain that remain completely anonymous and private.

So, that isn't an option. You could for instance email through a seeries of emailers over TOR

So, you're making the claim that Satoshi doesn't have the capability to do this when making that claim.

That in itself discredit your other claims that that person has ever Satoshi.

so you have aagain introduced a contradiction

CSW
Aug 30, 2021
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"....they make easily debunked claims and then create a fallacy of composition and division where the creative assumption that what is true about one part of bitcoin must apply to all parts of bitcoin. That is, there is a component used in digital signature algorithms that also applies to cryptography, so therefore, it must be encrypted. But, such an assumption is false. For example, hashing is also used in managing databases, as are digital signature algorithms without these being encrypted."

https://telegra.ph/Why-Satoshi-has-not-come-out-anonymously-By-CSW-08-30

Why Satoshi has not come out anonymously?. By CSW
Aug 30, 2021
https://ramonquesada.com/bestofcraig/why-satoshi-has-not-come-out-anonymously-by-csw/

https://t.me/CSW_Slack/2935

Today's myth busting lesson. You cannot gain security by hashing a file.
CSW
Nov 14, 2019
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CSW
Aug 30, 2021
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Bitcoin is not decentralised because it has a peer network for miners. It is not decentralised because lots of people can do this. Rather, what made bitcoin into a decentralised system of exchange was the fact that you could do SPV and IP to IP transactions.

Decentralised and without intermediaries means that Alice and Bob can communicate directly. For example, Alice can exchange a transaction with Bob, and Bob can send the transaction to be registered. That is how you make a decentralised system. The nodes form a distributed intermediary, but they are not decentralised or involved in creating a decentralised exchange. It is rather the direct transmission from Alice to Bob without the nodes that makes a Blockchain decentralised.

Whilst the nodes form a peer-to-peer network; this has nothing to do with what people tout as decentralisation.

P2P is not an intermediary as cash.

It is as a large (AML) value exchange

CSW
Aug 30, 2021
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CSW
Aug 30, 2021
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Treating people with different skin colours differently is merely a way of ensuring that these groups of people stay poor.

There is very little stopping a talented or intelligent individual from starting their own business in any Western country today. You do not need to raise a lot of capital to be a programmer; you need skills as a programmer. There is nothing at all (other than talent) stopping you from creating an app on one of the app stores and selling it.

Enterpreaunerial skills are not taught in school but need to be learned through experience. This is trial and error. People from Africa come to the United States and create companies and products. Nothing stops people in the United States of any skin colour from doing this. Most importantly, when you release an App nobody even knows what your skin colour is.

Apple do not care about your skin colour. Samsung do not care about your skin colour. Google do not care about your skin colour. None of these companies know what your religion or race is when you create an app. The only reason you don’t achieve is because you don’t try.

Indigenous people in the Pacific Islands now have the opportunity to create and sell products that Americans will use. If people keep using this blame based socialist BS, they will stay poor. If they don’t want to be poor, they have the opportunity to do something.

Movements like black lives matters are insidious cancers designed to promote socialism. They keep people poor.

Rather than teaching people that they have opportunities to develop alternative methodologies and processes and form companies, they say you are a victim and teach people to be victims.

If you care about poverty or people in need, you need to stop promoting these lies that we need to blame people for the past and start teaching people to enable themselves and have dignity and embrace competition and capitalism because that is how you get ahead.

If you want to see social mobility through this world, stop creating a world of blame games and stopping part of those. Stop allowing people to be victims and teach them to take control of their lives.

In a world that has no concept of what race or skin colour, or religion you are, the problem is now up to you to solve. Nothing stops you from making a business other than your own actions.

CSW
Aug 30, 2021
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CSW
Sep 1, 2021
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