the simple answer is it will be orphaned and pruned and someone building something that requires and will find that they just have nothing
there is no effect on the network removing and pruning a zero sat transaction as if it never existed because it doesn't exist
Alice has no output she has no UTXO
it is a record that may or may not exist
it is a record that can be pruned or not
there is a section on pruning
if it is part of an existing unspent transaction as is noted above, then it will still be on chain
no token, no UTXO
and, as is also noted this is not a zero sat transaction
having a value recorded where there is a payment against a token is just a way of adding extra data which is allowable
the whole point here as you need to have a transaction involving a token or it is not a transaction
I really do not care if you hook a billion USD off the 0-sat thing. (NOT a TX)
If you are dumb enough not to pay for 1 sat - you can lose it
CSW
Jun 17, 2021
https://metanet-icu.slack.com/archives/C5131HKFX/p1623922315126000
https://t.me/CSW_Slack/2613
there is no effect on the network removing and pruning a zero sat transaction as if it never existed because it doesn't exist
Alice has no output she has no UTXO
it is a record that may or may not exist
it is a record that can be pruned or not
there is a section on pruning
if it is part of an existing unspent transaction as is noted above, then it will still be on chain
no token, no UTXO
and, as is also noted this is not a zero sat transaction
having a value recorded where there is a payment against a token is just a way of adding extra data which is allowable
the whole point here as you need to have a transaction involving a token or it is not a transaction
I really do not care if you hook a billion USD off the 0-sat thing. (NOT a TX)
If you are dumb enough not to pay for 1 sat - you can lose it
CSW
Jun 17, 2021
https://metanet-icu.slack.com/archives/C5131HKFX/p1623922315126000
https://t.me/CSW_Slack/2613
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CSW
Jun 17, 2021
https://metanet-icu.slack.com/archives/C5131HKFX/p1623922315126000
https://t.me/CSW_Slack/2613
Jun 17, 2021
https://metanet-icu.slack.com/archives/C5131HKFX/p1623922315126000
https://t.me/CSW_Slack/2613
I do not want to hear another word on this channel or any other channel on slack again about zero sat transactions
I don't want to hear anyone whining about this BS
I don't care whether you like that it is a locked protocol or not or that it's a transaction system and a commodity or not
I really don't give a care
I don't give a flying fuck
the simple matter is if you don't like point piss the fuck off
do you understand the end
by this I mean I will not put up with any more discussion
it's not up for debate
it's not a community protocol
it set in stone and if you don't like that don't make your bloody own and piss off
if another person mentions this they can get out of this channel never come back
by this I'm serious it ends
no more discussion of protocol it is set
I don't intend to discuss this point again
I created a set protocol that is fiixed in stone and am now over a decade later arguing this point still
I have a simple answer
don't like it...
Leave
end of discussion
@Joel Dalais (MetaNet)
I am completely serious on this.
If another person so much as mentioned this topic again or about changing the protocol again...
Kick them out of here permanently or I will lleave
CSW
Jun 17, 2021
https://metanet-icu.slack.com/archives/C5131HKFX/p1623957582183400
https://t.me/CSW_Slack/2616
I don't want to hear anyone whining about this BS
I don't care whether you like that it is a locked protocol or not or that it's a transaction system and a commodity or not
I really don't give a care
I don't give a flying fuck
the simple matter is if you don't like point piss the fuck off
do you understand the end
by this I mean I will not put up with any more discussion
it's not up for debate
it's not a community protocol
it set in stone and if you don't like that don't make your bloody own and piss off
if another person mentions this they can get out of this channel never come back
by this I'm serious it ends
no more discussion of protocol it is set
I don't intend to discuss this point again
I created a set protocol that is fiixed in stone and am now over a decade later arguing this point still
I have a simple answer
don't like it...
Leave
end of discussion
@Joel Dalais (MetaNet)
I am completely serious on this.
If another person so much as mentioned this topic again or about changing the protocol again...
Kick them out of here permanently or I will lleave
CSW
Jun 17, 2021
https://metanet-icu.slack.com/archives/C5131HKFX/p1623957582183400
https://t.me/CSW_Slack/2616
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CSW - Slack Channel
CSW
Jun 17, 2021
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https://t.me/CSW_Slack/2616
Jun 17, 2021
https://metanet-icu.slack.com/archives/C5131HKFX/p1623957582183400
https://t.me/CSW_Slack/2616
The definition of legal tender....
This is because of been asked this by a few of you are not going to keep typing it multiple times because doing exactly the same thing many times is rather insane
legal tender differs from currency
Legal tender is by definition the coins or banknotes that by law must be accepted if offered in payment of a debt.
That is, if tended they cannot be rejected if you want to get paid.
not all bank notes and coins issued by a country are legal tender
for instance, you cannot force a bus driver to take a handful of pennies
money in a bank is not legal tender
a bank transfer is not legal tender even though it is done in the national currency
In the case of El Salvador, merchants CAN accept BTC or other means if they so choose
the law states that they can
to be legal tender it needs to say that they must
As the Bank of England states, this does not mean that you can make a shop contract with you and accept cash but rather that you cannot sue for recovery of some other methodology of payment
https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/knowledgebank/what-is-legal-tender
if a shop decides they don't want to take cash, and they tell you this at first, you are still obligated to pay if you only have cash and you lie to the shop saying that you have card
as the Bank of England states, even banknotes are not legal tender throughout the entire United Kingdom with Scotland for instance not taking bank of England banknotes and only accepting coins
all that the pulse of the Dorian government has said is pass a fluffy law that says merchants who already had the ability to accept payment in bitcoin can accept payment in bitcoin
in reality it is utterly meaningless
to quote the Bank of England
Legal tender has a narrow technical meaning which has no use in everyday life. It means that if you offer to fully pay off a debt to someone in legal tender, they can’t sue you for failing to repay.
remembering that you don't have a debt at a shop unless you have an account
when you make an offer to purchase goods at a store, it is not a debt
the transaction has not been completed and you don't have credit
it is only where you have credit and that you can be sued for non-payment that legal tender becomes involved in this exchange.
CSW
Jun 20, 2021 (14:08)
https://metanet-icu.slack.com/archives/C5131HKFX/p1624190496318100?thread_ts=1624190496.318100&cid=C5131HKFX
https://t.me/CSW_Slack/2619
This is because of been asked this by a few of you are not going to keep typing it multiple times because doing exactly the same thing many times is rather insane
legal tender differs from currency
Legal tender is by definition the coins or banknotes that by law must be accepted if offered in payment of a debt.
That is, if tended they cannot be rejected if you want to get paid.
not all bank notes and coins issued by a country are legal tender
for instance, you cannot force a bus driver to take a handful of pennies
money in a bank is not legal tender
a bank transfer is not legal tender even though it is done in the national currency
In the case of El Salvador, merchants CAN accept BTC or other means if they so choose
the law states that they can
to be legal tender it needs to say that they must
As the Bank of England states, this does not mean that you can make a shop contract with you and accept cash but rather that you cannot sue for recovery of some other methodology of payment
https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/knowledgebank/what-is-legal-tender
if a shop decides they don't want to take cash, and they tell you this at first, you are still obligated to pay if you only have cash and you lie to the shop saying that you have card
as the Bank of England states, even banknotes are not legal tender throughout the entire United Kingdom with Scotland for instance not taking bank of England banknotes and only accepting coins
all that the pulse of the Dorian government has said is pass a fluffy law that says merchants who already had the ability to accept payment in bitcoin can accept payment in bitcoin
in reality it is utterly meaningless
to quote the Bank of England
Legal tender has a narrow technical meaning which has no use in everyday life. It means that if you offer to fully pay off a debt to someone in legal tender, they can’t sue you for failing to repay.
remembering that you don't have a debt at a shop unless you have an account
when you make an offer to purchase goods at a store, it is not a debt
the transaction has not been completed and you don't have credit
it is only where you have credit and that you can be sued for non-payment that legal tender becomes involved in this exchange.
CSW
Jun 20, 2021 (14:08)
https://metanet-icu.slack.com/archives/C5131HKFX/p1624190496318100?thread_ts=1624190496.318100&cid=C5131HKFX
https://t.me/CSW_Slack/2619
www.bankofengland.co.uk
What is legal tender?
Many people are confused about this – it is more about settling debts than how you pay for things in shops
Popper, K. R. (2002).
The poverty of historicism. Psychology Press.
this is what I would give you as essential reading
https://www.amazon.com/Poverty-Historicism-Routledge-Classics-ebook-dp-B00AZ4UMF4/dp/B00AZ4UMF4/
CSW
Jun 18, 2021
https://metanet-icu.slack.com/archives/C5131HKFX/p1624034019279800?thread_ts=1624034019.279800&cid=C5131HKFX
https://t.me/CSW_Slack/2621
The poverty of historicism. Psychology Press.
this is what I would give you as essential reading
https://www.amazon.com/Poverty-Historicism-Routledge-Classics-ebook-dp-B00AZ4UMF4/dp/B00AZ4UMF4/
CSW
Jun 18, 2021
https://metanet-icu.slack.com/archives/C5131HKFX/p1624034019279800?thread_ts=1624034019.279800&cid=C5131HKFX
https://t.me/CSW_Slack/2621
Amazon
The Poverty of Historicism (Routledge Classics)
Quick questions about Merkle Tree in Bitcoin Blocks:
When TXes are put into blocks, is the Merkle Tree formed as a multi branch tree or is it formed as a linear branch sort of sequentially?
Binary tree
no, the miner will not be able to make a linear path
no a linear path is a shit idea
please stop trying to change my protocol
I keep saying this, set in stone
there are reasons for every aspect of bitcoin that I have spent many years developing
no I haven't had time to explain every little bit of it to everyone
no it is not more efficient to change
no a linear path will not work
yes, a linear path increases the amount of computation exponentially
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_logarithm
the verification of a linear path requires for any entries that you require verification of [(n-1)/2]+1 subsequent entries
every single time you want to do something
no not a binary logarithm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_tree#:~:text=In%20computer%20science%2C%20a%20binary,child%20and%20the%20right%20child.&text=It%20is%20also%20possible%20to,is%20an%20ordered%2C%20rooted%20tree
the Merkle tree is a full binary tree and is also known as a complete binary tree
verification at scale is many times more efficient
what do you mean by three steps away
you don't need to make the proof you need to path
this is bites of information
Try 4,000,000,000,000 TX in a block
10,000,000,000 a second x 3600 at the extreme is required in time
Think on that
Jun 22, 2021
https://metanet-icu.slack.com/archives/C5131HKFX/p1624354285373300?thread_ts=1624354285.373300&cid=C5131HKFX
https://t.me/CSW_Slack/2623
https://t.me/CSW_Slack/2625
When TXes are put into blocks, is the Merkle Tree formed as a multi branch tree or is it formed as a linear branch sort of sequentially?
Binary tree
no, the miner will not be able to make a linear path
no a linear path is a shit idea
please stop trying to change my protocol
I keep saying this, set in stone
there are reasons for every aspect of bitcoin that I have spent many years developing
no I haven't had time to explain every little bit of it to everyone
no it is not more efficient to change
no a linear path will not work
yes, a linear path increases the amount of computation exponentially
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_logarithm
the verification of a linear path requires for any entries that you require verification of [(n-1)/2]+1 subsequent entries
every single time you want to do something
no not a binary logarithm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_tree#:~:text=In%20computer%20science%2C%20a%20binary,child%20and%20the%20right%20child.&text=It%20is%20also%20possible%20to,is%20an%20ordered%2C%20rooted%20tree
the Merkle tree is a full binary tree and is also known as a complete binary tree
verification at scale is many times more efficient
what do you mean by three steps away
you don't need to make the proof you need to path
this is bites of information
Try 4,000,000,000,000 TX in a block
10,000,000,000 a second x 3600 at the extreme is required in time
Think on that
Jun 22, 2021
https://metanet-icu.slack.com/archives/C5131HKFX/p1624354285373300?thread_ts=1624354285.373300&cid=C5131HKFX
https://t.me/CSW_Slack/2623
https://t.me/CSW_Slack/2625
Wikipedia
Binary logarithm
mathematical function
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TechCrunch
No, NFTs aren’t copyrights
When artists sell their digitally minted artwork as a non-fungible token, they usually aren’t selling the underlying copyright — but there are overlaps.
WO2017145009A1.pdf
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INTERNATIONAL APPLICATION PUBLISHED UNDER THE PATENT COOPERATION TREATY (PCT)
(19) World Intellectual Property
Organization
International Bureau
31 August 2017
(19) World Intellectual Property
Organization
International Bureau
31 August 2017
I do not support diversity or multiculturalism.
I support national sovereignty and separate paths that compete.
This has nothing to do with colour as race DOES NOT EXIST.
Culture matters, when people come to the USA, UK etc, they leave their Culture.
Mixing food is not like blocks of non integrated people.
CSW
Jun 24, 2021
https://metanet-icu.slack.com/archives/C5131HKFX/p1624532489059700?thread_ts=1624532489.059700&cid=C5131HKFX
I support national sovereignty and separate paths that compete.
This has nothing to do with colour as race DOES NOT EXIST.
Culture matters, when people come to the USA, UK etc, they leave their Culture.
Mixing food is not like blocks of non integrated people.
CSW
Jun 24, 2021
https://metanet-icu.slack.com/archives/C5131HKFX/p1624532489059700?thread_ts=1624532489.059700&cid=C5131HKFX