No Sat, no reason for keeping the entry

CSW
Jun 14, 2021
https://metanet-icu.slack.com/archives/C5131HKFX/p1623657639271900?thread_ts=1623657639.271900&cid=C5131HKFX

https://t.me/CSW_Slack/2593

CSW
Jun 14, 2021
https://metanet-icu.slack.com/archives/C5131HKFX/p1623673269281100?thread_ts=1623673269.281100&cid=C5131HKFX

https://t.me/CSW_Slack/2596

CSW
Jun 14, 2021
https://metanet-icu.slack.com/archives/C5131HKFX/p1623675296284400?thread_ts=1623675296.284400&cid=C5131HKFX

https://t.me/CSW_Slack/2597

CSW
Jun 14, 2021
https://metanet-icu.slack.com/archives/C5131HKFX/p1623679139297400?thread_ts=1623679139.297400&cid=C5131HKFX

https://t.me/CSW_Slack/2598

A UTXO is a coin.

token-based computiing is forty years old

it works

bitcoin is an incentive system

it is an economic system

accounting systems that are based on mere account ledgers are not

proof of work does not make something a security or not

Ethereum is an account based system

Ethereum is insecure and will never scale and will have problems because of the nature of the system

it decided to abandon the economic constructs that make bitcoin function

CSW
Jun 14, 2021
https://metanet-icu.slack.com/archives/C5131HKFX/p1623679139297400?thread_ts=1623679139.297400&cid=C5131HKFX

https://t.me/CSW_Slack/2598

CSW
Jun 15, 2021
https://metanet-icu.slack.com/archives/C5131HKFX/p1623737482363600?thread_ts=1623737482.363600&cid=C5131HKFX

https://t.me/CSW_Slack/2600

I recommend that people stop using the word infinity. Infinity doesn't exist. In mathematics when we talk about a process that tends towards infinity what we really meaning is that it's unbounded.

Approaches
It never is

The correct mathematical description is to say that 1/x Approaches infinity at the limit as x goes to 0

In effect, the function is undefined at x=0

Time extends
Matter never forms a point

The closer to bring a point, the longer it takes to change, the process diverges. It never approaches infinite

Black holes evaporate faster than they collapse

CSW
Jun 15, 2021
https://metanet-icu.slack.com/archives/C5131HKFX/p1623737482363600?thread_ts=1623737482.363600&cid=C5131HKFX

https://t.me/CSW_Slack/2600

CSW
Mar 15, 2020
https://metanet-icu.slack.com/archives/C5131HKFX/p1584263168429300?thread_ts=1584263168.429300&cid=C5131HKFX

https://t.me/CSW_Slack/2602

Bitcoin tokens are not keys.

Keys are not the property. If a key was the property in bitcoin, than after sending the tokens to the recipient you would retain value.

The tokens are exchanged, not the keys. Keys are supposed to link identity. If you do not have identity, you don't have a digital signature.

A negotiable instrument is the document

It is the property

To transfer it, you sign it over

In time, you end with a chain of signatures on the original document

No.
Tokens do not have signatures

Tokens have nothing at all to ever do with signatures.

The signature is on the (virtual) envelope.

The envelope holds tokens.

The tokens and envelopes are not the same.

The envelopes are registered. This is on a ledger (the blockchain) that all people can read.

The ledger records how many tokens are in each envelope at the time of registration.

You can move and exchange tokens without registration, but this can be risky as it allows the other person to commit fraud easily.

CSW
Mar 15, 2020
https://metanet-icu.slack.com/archives/C5131HKFX/p1584263168429300?thread_ts=1584263168.429300&cid=C5131HKFX

https://t.me/CSW_Slack/2602

CSW
Mar 17, 2020
https://metanet-icu.slack.com/archives/C5131HKFX/p1584451791060700?thread_ts=1584451791.060700&cid=C5131HKFX

https://t.me/CSW_Slack/2604

A private key must be unique to the individual or it cannot be associated with a digital signature

If you ever share the key, it is no longer valid to use in signing.

CSW
Mar 17, 2020
https://metanet-icu.slack.com/archives/C5131HKFX/p1584451791060700?thread_ts=1584451791.060700&cid=C5131HKFX

https://t.me/CSW_Slack/2604

CSW
May 6, 2021
https://metanet-icu.slack.com/archives/C5131HKFX/p1588775667184100?thread_ts=1588775667.184100&cid=C5131HKFX

https://t.me/CSW_Slack/2606

You cannot get a chain of proof of work information and make an identity.

I wish people would stop this bull shit about code is law. There is no digital signature and no identity without people.

A key can be signed - by a register - with evidence of ID

Vote - horrible

Voting systems are complex

I designed some

CSW
May 6, 2021
https://metanet-icu.slack.com/archives/C5131HKFX/p1588775667184100?thread_ts=1588775667.184100&cid=C5131HKFX

https://t.me/CSW_Slack/2606

CSW
Jun 15, 2021
https://metanet-icu.slack.com/archives/C5131HKFX/p1623788130493200?thread_ts=1623788130.493200&cid=C5131HKFX

https://t.me/CSW_Slack/2608

People ask why I am Christian and believe.

Why ask God to be a part of your life? Why choose to think there is more....

Then, COPA comes along and you see your wishes and deepest desires answered...

You worry Bout people running and that the cases are difficult to get before a judge.

Then, by the grace of God and it has to be, there is no way that level of stupidly can exist outside of a miracle....

Natural law.

CSW
Jun 15, 2021
https://metanet-icu.slack.com/archives/C5131HKFX/p1623788130493200?thread_ts=1623788130.493200&cid=C5131HKFX

https://t.me/CSW_Slack/2608

CSW
Jun 17, 2021
https://metanet-icu.slack.com/archives/C5131HKFX/p1623913110111700?thread_ts=1623908701.108300&cid=C5131HKFX

https://t.me/CSW_Slack/2610

CSW
Jun 17, 2021
https://metanet-icu.slack.com/archives/C5131HKFX/p1623913295113600?thread_ts=1623913295.113600&cid=C5131HKFX

https://t.me/CSW_Slack/2612

CSW
Jun 17, 2021
https://metanet-icu.slack.com/archives/C5131HKFX/p1623922315126000

https://t.me/CSW_Slack/2613

the simple answer is it will be orphaned and pruned and someone building something that requires and will find that they just have nothing

there is no effect on the network removing and pruning a zero sat transaction as if it never existed because it doesn't exist

Alice has no output she has no UTXO

it is a record that may or may not exist

it is a record that can be pruned or not

there is a section on pruning

if it is part of an existing unspent transaction as is noted above, then it will still be on chain

no token, no UTXO

and, as is also noted this is not a zero sat transaction

having a value recorded where there is a payment against a token is just a way of adding extra data which is allowable

the whole point here as you need to have a transaction involving a token or it is not a transaction

I really do not care if you hook a billion USD off the 0-sat thing. (NOT a TX)

If you are dumb enough not to pay for 1 sat - you can lose it

CSW
Jun 17, 2021
https://metanet-icu.slack.com/archives/C5131HKFX/p1623922315126000

https://t.me/CSW_Slack/2613

CSW
Jun 17, 2021
https://metanet-icu.slack.com/archives/C5131HKFX/p1623957582183400

https://t.me/CSW_Slack/2616

I do not want to hear another word on this channel or any other channel on slack again about zero sat transactions

I don't want to hear anyone whining about this BS

I don't care whether you like that it is a locked protocol or not or that it's a transaction system and a commodity or not

I really don't give a care

I don't give a flying fuck

the simple matter is if you don't like point piss the fuck off

do you understand the end

by this I mean I will not put up with any more discussion

it's not up for debate

it's not a community protocol

it set in stone and if you don't like that don't make your bloody own and piss off

if another person mentions this they can get out of this channel never come back

by this I'm serious it ends

no more discussion of protocol it is set

I don't intend to discuss this point again

I created a set protocol that is fiixed in stone and am now over a decade later arguing this point still

I have a simple answer

don't like it...

Leave

end of discussion

@Joel Dalais (MetaNet)
I am completely serious on this.

If another person so much as mentioned this topic again or about changing the protocol again...

Kick them out of here permanently or I will lleave

CSW
Jun 17, 2021
https://metanet-icu.slack.com/archives/C5131HKFX/p1623957582183400

https://t.me/CSW_Slack/2616