This is exacty the reason why we build Valueverse.
https://x.com/MikeIppolito_/status/2069069423642616030
You can alsways access app.valueverse.ai for correct revenues
https://x.com/MikeIppolito_/status/2069069423642616030
You can alsways access app.valueverse.ai for correct revenues
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Mippo πͺ (@MikeIppolito_) on X
At this point you should ignore crypto data you see on Twitter that doesn't come from Blockworks, Token Terminal, etc...
I hate to dunk, but had to say something here because:
1. Almost no revenβ¦
I hate to dunk, but had to say something here because:
1. Almost no revenβ¦
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Smart people realise how powerful Holder P/FCF is:
https://x.com/yashasedu/status/2069274096421232772?s=46
https://x.com/yashasedu/status/2069274096421232772?s=46
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YashasEdu (@YashasEdu) on X
Ngl @valueverse_ai' 30D Holder P/FCF screener is quietly one of the sharpest lenses in DeFi right now.
Lowest multiples (tightest cash flow to holders)π
β’ @pendle_fi: 4.2x
β’ @Pumpfun: 6.3x
β’ @AerodromeFi: 7.3x
β’ @AskVenice : 7.8x
These protocols donβtβ¦
Lowest multiples (tightest cash flow to holders)π
β’ @pendle_fi: 4.2x
β’ @Pumpfun: 6.3x
β’ @AerodromeFi: 7.3x
β’ @AskVenice : 7.8x
These protocols donβtβ¦
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Release: Yield Basis Protocol Financials
Live accounting for revenues & expenses:
β’ LP gains (v1/v2/v3) realized/unrealized + veYB fees
β’ $YB Emissions (Rewards, Curve Licensing)
https://x.com/valueverse_ai/status/2069842516736671818
Live accounting for revenues & expenses:
β’ LP gains (v1/v2/v3) realized/unrealized + veYB fees
β’ $YB Emissions (Rewards, Curve Licensing)
https://x.com/valueverse_ai/status/2069842516736671818
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Interesting observation:
Same trade, both assets: $1k/week, 130 weeks β $130k in.
$BTC β $101.5k (β$28.5k)
$AERO + veAERO fees β $326k
And only $47.6k of AERO's gain is price. $149k is yield.
You don't need price to go up if the asset pays you.
Thanks our user @lordjorx to finding this https://x.com/lordjorx/status/2069851550487298330
Same trade, both assets: $1k/week, 130 weeks β $130k in.
$BTC β $101.5k (β$28.5k)
$AERO + veAERO fees β $326k
And only $47.6k of AERO's gain is price. $149k is yield.
You don't need price to go up if the asset pays you.
Thanks our user @lordjorx to finding this https://x.com/lordjorx/status/2069851550487298330
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Jordi in Cryptoland (@lordjorx) on X
These backtests for yield-bearing assets are insane.
@valueverse_ai has a module that runs DCA backtests ($1,000/week) across four strategies for yield-bearing positions.
The numbers for @VelodromeFi vs @AerodromeFi are super interesting.
VELO, $1,000/weekβ¦
@valueverse_ai has a module that runs DCA backtests ($1,000/week) across four strategies for yield-bearing positions.
The numbers for @VelodromeFi vs @AerodromeFi are super interesting.
VELO, $1,000/weekβ¦
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Few tokens stay strong on this bear market.
$GOMINING is one of them: since March 1, the token has declined only from $0.30 to $0.28.
Looking at the last 18 months:
β’ Holders revenue: $14.2m distributed to veGOMINING (23% APY, ~6x 1Y Holder P/FCF)
β’ $72.8m of organic token demand from users purchasing and spending $GOMINING to reduce mining costs (over $10m saved)
β’ 58.9% of the supply locked in ve-tokenomics and 7.5% permanently burned
Valueverse data: https://gomining.valueverse.ai/
$GOMINING is one of them: since March 1, the token has declined only from $0.30 to $0.28.
Looking at the last 18 months:
β’ Holders revenue: $14.2m distributed to veGOMINING (23% APY, ~6x 1Y Holder P/FCF)
β’ $72.8m of organic token demand from users purchasing and spending $GOMINING to reduce mining costs (over $10m saved)
β’ 58.9% of the supply locked in ve-tokenomics and 7.5% permanently burned
Valueverse data: https://gomining.valueverse.ai/
GoMining Γ Valueverse
GoMining β Token Mechanics & Utility Dashboard
GoMining token economics dashboard β protocol revenue, discount mechanics, veGOMINING utility, and on-chain metrics.
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We just announced three new listings:
β’ f(x) Protocol $FXN
β’ Ramses $RAM
β’ StakeDAO $SDT
All these assets generate revenue for their holders. At Valueverse's Accrual (app.valueverse.ai) we will track:
β’ Holders revenue & revenue-eligible market cap
β’ P/FCF investment multiples
β’ Related metrics
Full article: https://x.com/valueverse_ai/status/2072014451465699788
β’ f(x) Protocol $FXN
β’ Ramses $RAM
β’ StakeDAO $SDT
All these assets generate revenue for their holders. At Valueverse's Accrual (app.valueverse.ai) we will track:
β’ Holders revenue & revenue-eligible market cap
β’ P/FCF investment multiples
β’ Related metrics
Full article: https://x.com/valueverse_ai/status/2072014451465699788
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An example what can be easily found with Valueverse engine:
Yield Basis supply insight:
- Over 10% of the theoretical
$YB supply is already locked (103M vs. 1B)
- veYB has absorbed 100% of all emitted $YB
Breakdown:
- Emissions: 42.0M (LPs) + 10.1M (Curve licensing) = 52.1m
- User locks (excluding team & investors): 61.0M YB
- Net absorption: +8.9M YB (61.0M locked vs. 52.1M emitted)
On top of that, another ~42M YB is locked by the team and investors.
Original tweet: https://x.com/valueverse_ai/status/2075185042184143242
Yield Basis supply insight:
- Over 10% of the theoretical
$YB supply is already locked (103M vs. 1B)
- veYB has absorbed 100% of all emitted $YB
Breakdown:
- Emissions: 42.0M (LPs) + 10.1M (Curve licensing) = 52.1m
- User locks (excluding team & investors): 61.0M YB
- Net absorption: +8.9M YB (61.0M locked vs. 52.1M emitted)
On top of that, another ~42M YB is locked by the team and investors.
Original tweet: https://x.com/valueverse_ai/status/2075185042184143242
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It looks like we can use P/FCF multiple as an additional indicator:
-> complementing classic technical analysis for mid-term trading and position management.
Market was pricing P/FCF even when this metric didn't exist and formed resistance and support zones not only around price levels, but around "what this token earns and how much it costs" levels as well.
From August 2025 to January 2026, approximately 5.5x acted as a valuation ceiling:
β’ 5.3x at $1.33
β’ 5.6x at $1.29
β’ 5.2x at $1.16
β’ 5.5x at $0.595
β’ 5.4x at $0.608
Different token prices, but almost the same valuation rejection.
Meanwhile, approximately 2.5x acted as support, reached at both $0.79 and $0.295.
Another interesting transition occurred around 3.3x: it initially behaved as resistance in May 2025, but later became supportβa classic resistance-to-support transition in fundamental valuation space.
Recently, the range appears to have rerated upward:
β’ New resistance: approximately 7.8β8.0x
β’ New support: approximately 3.5β3.9x
In implied veAERO annual yield terms, the old 2.5β5.5x range represented approximately 40%β18%, while the new 3.7β8.0x range represents approximately 27%β12.5%.
See yourself at https://app.valueverse.ai/tokens/aero
Original Tweet: https://x.com/vasily_sumanov/status/2077484295615402032
-> complementing classic technical analysis for mid-term trading and position management.
Market was pricing P/FCF even when this metric didn't exist and formed resistance and support zones not only around price levels, but around "what this token earns and how much it costs" levels as well.
From August 2025 to January 2026, approximately 5.5x acted as a valuation ceiling:
β’ 5.3x at $1.33
β’ 5.6x at $1.29
β’ 5.2x at $1.16
β’ 5.5x at $0.595
β’ 5.4x at $0.608
Different token prices, but almost the same valuation rejection.
Meanwhile, approximately 2.5x acted as support, reached at both $0.79 and $0.295.
Another interesting transition occurred around 3.3x: it initially behaved as resistance in May 2025, but later became supportβa classic resistance-to-support transition in fundamental valuation space.
Recently, the range appears to have rerated upward:
β’ New resistance: approximately 7.8β8.0x
β’ New support: approximately 3.5β3.9x
In implied veAERO annual yield terms, the old 2.5β5.5x range represented approximately 40%β18%, while the new 3.7β8.0x range represents approximately 27%β12.5%.
See yourself at https://app.valueverse.ai/tokens/aero
Original Tweet: https://x.com/vasily_sumanov/status/2077484295615402032
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Token Value Changes (17 JUL vs 17 JUNE)
Biggest gainer: $YB, Biggest loser: $UNI
βοΈ Gainers:
Token P/FCF 30D Change
$YB 5.7x - 80.4%
$AERO 6.0x - 8.1%
$VELO 7.2x - 12.5%
π Losers
Token P/FCF 30D Change
$AAVE 33.0x + 26.5%
$WELL 41.1x + 33.0%
$VVV 10.0x + 33.9%
$HYDX 10.3x + 34.6%
$UNI 60.5x +39.5%
β’ GAINERS (-%%) means future revenue became cheaper ($1 of token value captures more revenue for holder than before)
β’ LOSERS (+%%) means future revenue became more expensive ($1 of token value captures less revenue for holder than before)
Note: $AEROSTRAT (12.6x, +36.1%) excluded due to <1m mcap, $PUMP excluded due to technical reasons
Biggest gainer: $YB, Biggest loser: $UNI
Token P/FCF 30D Change
$YB 5.7x - 80.4%
$AERO 6.0x - 8.1%
$VELO 7.2x - 12.5%
Token P/FCF 30D Change
$AAVE 33.0x + 26.5%
$WELL 41.1x + 33.0%
$VVV 10.0x + 33.9%
$HYDX 10.3x + 34.6%
$UNI 60.5x +39.5%
β’ GAINERS (-%%) means future revenue became cheaper ($1 of token value captures more revenue for holder than before)
β’ LOSERS (+%%) means future revenue became more expensive ($1 of token value captures less revenue for holder than before)
Note: $AEROSTRAT (12.6x, +36.1%) excluded due to <1m mcap, $PUMP excluded due to technical reasons
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For $HYPE lovers: don't forget that 32% of Holders' Revenue is subsidy delivered to validators, so we have
β’ 65% of buybacks: 0.65*1.1 = ~$715m
β’ 32% of staking incentives 0.32*1.1 = $352m
So while $715m of $HYPE are bought back, $352m or ~50% are added to circulation, meaning that EFFECTIVE buyback rate (net) is 715-352 = $363m only(!)
https://app.valueverse.ai/tokens/hype
β’ 65% of buybacks: 0.65*1.1 = ~$715m
β’ 32% of staking incentives 0.32*1.1 = $352m
So while $715m of $HYPE are bought back, $352m or ~50% are added to circulation, meaning that EFFECTIVE buyback rate (net) is 715-352 = $363m only(!)
https://app.valueverse.ai/tokens/hype
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What happens if we value $HYPE against the supply that is actually exposed to its fundamentals?
β’ Not just the liquid float
On this basis: buybacks are priced at roughly >150Γ annual revenue.
The logic is simple:
β’ buybacks and burns should be measured against the entire supply they enrich.
β’ Locked tokens benefit from supply reduction just as much as liquid tokens do.
Illiquidity affects the ability to sell, not the amount of value accrued.
β’ Not just the liquid float
On this basis: buybacks are priced at roughly >150Γ annual revenue.
The logic is simple:
β’ buybacks and burns should be measured against the entire supply they enrich.
β’ Locked tokens benefit from supply reduction just as much as liquid tokens do.
Illiquidity affects the ability to sell, not the amount of value accrued.
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We prepare big release with methodology update and lot of new data
v2 is coming
v2 is coming
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Pareto Rule for data is 99-1:
- 1% of onchain data helps you to make money (with proper interpretation)
- 99% of it doesnβt lead to valuable decisions but everyone tries to build it.
Our business is 1%. Others can spend time for 99%
@okhlopkov do you agree with that?
- 1% of onchain data helps you to make money (with proper interpretation)
- 99% of it doesnβt lead to valuable decisions but everyone tries to build it.
Our business is 1%. Others can spend time for 99%
@okhlopkov do you agree with that?
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Getting insights on tokens while cooking up Valueverse v2π
$NEST revenue performed so well lately:
- Now it's yielding $79/year avg per 10k locked NEST(last epoch annualized)
- Revenue captured since launch: $19 per 10k NEST locked
- P/FCF multipliers: x1.38 (7D), x5.73 (365D or annualizing all existing revenue data since launch).
Will summarize all new stuff that is coming into some articleπ§
$NEST revenue performed so well lately:
- Now it's yielding $79/year avg per 10k locked NEST(last epoch annualized)
- Revenue captured since launch: $19 per 10k NEST locked
- P/FCF multipliers: x1.38 (7D), x5.73 (365D or annualizing all existing revenue data since launch).
Will summarize all new stuff that is coming into some articleπ§
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Everything we need:
βThe healthy token economics are finally emergingβ
βThe healthy token economics are finally emergingβ
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Forwarded from Shoal Research Hub
Crypto Is Transitioning From a Venture Market to a Liquid Asset Market
> Most infra has been built, most chains we need exist.
> There is less need for massive vc rounds for infra slop + most funding is now focused on the app layer.
> Crypto is transitioning from a VC-dominated infra buildout to a liquid market era
> Where revenue-generating app-layer protocols are rewarded, mega-funds are no longer needed, and healthy token economics are finally emerging.
Source: https://x.com/ceterispar1bus/status/2092990793665348095
> Most infra has been built, most chains we need exist.
> There is less need for massive vc rounds for infra slop + most funding is now focused on the app layer.
> Crypto is transitioning from a VC-dominated infra buildout to a liquid market era
> Where revenue-generating app-layer protocols are rewarded, mega-funds are no longer needed, and healthy token economics are finally emerging.
Source: https://x.com/ceterispar1bus/status/2092990793665348095
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ceteris (@ceterispar1bus) on X
crypto is going through its venture --> liquid transition as an investible asset class.
most infra has been built, most chains we need exist. there is less of a need for massive vc rounds for infβ¦
most infra has been built, most chains we need exist. there is less of a need for massive vc rounds for infβ¦
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Buying liquid tokens in most cases has much better risk-rewardβ¦
then buying something illiquid (for years) from the team that one day will βsunsetβ the protocol since they spent your money on their experiments and decided to do another thing
Now you just need to pick liquid winners and early alpha; this is the edge now
then buying something illiquid (for years) from the team that one day will βsunsetβ the protocol since they spent your money on their experiments and decided to do another thing
Now you just need to pick liquid winners and early alpha; this is the edge now
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We closely track what is going on Robinhood and it is not about memes
Itβs about revenue generating assets such as $PONS and $UP that made 2021-style altseason rally.
A lot of interesting stuff & fresh liquidity is there so we will cover it up for you
Itβs about revenue generating assets such as $PONS and $UP that made 2021-style altseason rally.
A lot of interesting stuff & fresh liquidity is there so we will cover it up for you
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