Some alpha from Valueverse Alpha - backtest of investing in revenue tokens. We have many tools now to operate on top of our proprietary datasets
If you bought $1k of $AERO at 7th of April, lock and reinvest all yield -> you are +33% profits rn, even taking into account that token doesn't grow in value since then
If you didn't reinvest it is +61%
If you bought $1k of $AERO at 7th of April, lock and reinvest all yield -> you are +33% profits rn, even taking into account that token doesn't grow in value since then
If you didn't reinvest it is +61%
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If you are interested in nerdy stuff about tokens and value, it's exactly that
https://x.com/vasily_sumanov/status/2041971785202122857
https://x.com/vasily_sumanov/status/2041971785202122857
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Vasily Sumanov (@vasily_sumanov) on X
How I built my own system for token valuation
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Stacy Muur, big Defi KOLs made an overview of our token valuation approach
https://x.com/stacy_muur/status/2042897455671578757?s=20
https://x.com/stacy_muur/status/2042897455671578757?s=20
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Stacy Muur (@stacy_muur) on X
Key takeaways from @vasily_sumanov’s article on token valuation (gud article!):
→ Tokens aren’t stocks. They bundle governance, cashflows, access, staking, and discounts into one asset. Stock market ratios don’t capture any of this.
→ Every token can be…
→ Tokens aren’t stocks. They bundle governance, cashflows, access, staking, and discounts into one asset. Stock market ratios don’t capture any of this.
→ Every token can be…
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Some updates:
• We’re heading to Consensus 2026 in Miami to meet liquid funds, hedge funds, and VCs.
• A core Valueverse.ai product is almost done: token revenue & beyond analysis with TradFi-style metrics.
• We received all your requests for alpha access -> excited to hear your feedback soon. Stay tuned.
We also want to know why you are in this group or applied for Alpha:
• Signals?
• Portfolio strategies?
• Or simply understanding which tokens are more investable than others?
https://x.com/valueverse_ai/status/2049461865621684323?
• We’re heading to Consensus 2026 in Miami to meet liquid funds, hedge funds, and VCs.
• A core Valueverse.ai product is almost done: token revenue & beyond analysis with TradFi-style metrics.
• We received all your requests for alpha access -> excited to hear your feedback soon. Stay tuned.
We also want to know why you are in this group or applied for Alpha:
• Signals?
• Portfolio strategies?
• Or simply understanding which tokens are more investable than others?
https://x.com/valueverse_ai/status/2049461865621684323?
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Valueverse (@valueverse_ai) on X
Are liquid tokens still investable?
Let’s debate it at @consensus2026 Miami next week.
We've collected a proprietary dataset for this discussion.
DM @vasily_sumanov or reach out: hey@valuevers…
Let’s debate it at @consensus2026 Miami next week.
We've collected a proprietary dataset for this discussion.
DM @vasily_sumanov or reach out: hey@valuevers…
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Miami rocks
Bought coffee with $BTC (instantly, no fees, no L2). Just hardcore L1 BTC
https://x.com/vasily_sumanov/status/2051683687230833008?s=46
Bought coffee with $BTC (instantly, no fees, no L2). Just hardcore L1 BTC
https://x.com/vasily_sumanov/status/2051683687230833008?s=46
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I never aimed to create a “trading channel”
But, it seems that using Valueverse data to make money from token investments is the best PMF
10+ people <I met personally each of them in Miami> already work with our data to backtest investment strategies; +some whitelist applications came before my trip.
$AERO played out quite well. We made multiple articles about $AERO and have shown that it is undervalued a way before crypto twitter started to push this narrative.
We don’t provide investment advices, we provide stats that you cannot get otherwise.
Next, I want to dig into $VVV that made 15x since Dec 2025 despite all market crashes. My main purpose is check - was it possible to predict such growth from fundamentals or not. Let’s see.
What tokens you want to dig into? Maybe we can add more? We have 80 assets in pipeline but since we are not an “Investor Relations” project (meaning: projects don’t pay us to build metrics and shill them, we do all our data & models spending own resources and money ) so we need to select what is really important to build.
https://x.com/vasily_sumanov/status/2053175423518007745?s=46
But, it seems that using Valueverse data to make money from token investments is the best PMF
10+ people <I met personally each of them in Miami> already work with our data to backtest investment strategies; +some whitelist applications came before my trip.
$AERO played out quite well. We made multiple articles about $AERO and have shown that it is undervalued a way before crypto twitter started to push this narrative.
We don’t provide investment advices, we provide stats that you cannot get otherwise.
Next, I want to dig into $VVV that made 15x since Dec 2025 despite all market crashes. My main purpose is check - was it possible to predict such growth from fundamentals or not. Let’s see.
What tokens you want to dig into? Maybe we can add more? We have 80 assets in pipeline but since we are not an “Investor Relations” project (meaning: projects don’t pay us to build metrics and shill them, we do all our data & models spending own resources and money ) so we need to select what is really important to build.
https://x.com/vasily_sumanov/status/2053175423518007745?s=46
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https://x.com/vasily_sumanov/status/2053592031033794943?s=20
Some alpha (possibly) coming.
The goal is to predict this next time.
Some alpha (possibly) coming.
The goal is to predict this next time.
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Vasily Sumanov (@vasily_sumanov) on X
@jesseproudman @KSimback @AskVenice $VVV price growth followed fundamentals.
Eff. MCap (the value of all staked $VVV) -> is highly correlated with token holder revenue growth.
According to our calculations, @AskVenice annualized $VVV holder revenue is ~$110M.
Eff. MCap (the value of all staked $VVV) -> is highly correlated with token holder revenue growth.
According to our calculations, @AskVenice annualized $VVV holder revenue is ~$110M.
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Just see it yourself
Eff.M.Cap (total price of all $VVV staked and receiving revenue) follows the revenue.
Now it seems overvalued (m.cap -> UP, rev -> declining)
Multiplier was 2.5-3.5x when the rally started, now it is 13.6x (30D).
It means that today $VVV is 4x more expensive in terms of future revenue price that it was in Dec-Jan (and 14x more expensive in terms of spot USD-per-token price)
Eff.M.Cap (total price of all $VVV staked and receiving revenue) follows the revenue.
Now it seems overvalued (m.cap -> UP, rev -> declining)
Multiplier was 2.5-3.5x when the rally started, now it is 13.6x (30D).
It means that today $VVV is 4x more expensive in terms of future revenue price that it was in Dec-Jan (and 14x more expensive in terms of spot USD-per-token price)
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Looks like the answer "Why you build Valueverse, how I can make money on this data?" finally finds an answer.
Thanks to the market.
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Midnight thought on the Selective Altseason thesis.
Three main pillars:
1. Decentralized "AI stocks": $VVV, $POD, Pearl, a few others; writing research on them now
Strategy: be early on fundamental plays, separate them from narrative-only "AI" noise.
2. Revenue-generating tokens the market forgot (welcome $RAIL, re-pricing today, $WALLET follows)
- Strategy: know the true tokenholder revenue & economics before broader attention arrives.
3. New projects with strong token revenue potential
Built on business models we already understand deeply.
$YB → improved ve-model built on the foundations of $CRV
$NEST → metaDEX playbook highly comparable to
$AERO
- Strategy: analyze what prices/valuations is possible through data of its historical reference:
TVL → protocol revenue → token revenue → revenue multipliers
For most of these strategies, public data is broken:
- Not "TVL" or "protocol revenue". That’s surface-level.
- The real edge is verified token-level attribution: actual token holder revenue, eligible market cap (not generic circulation), revenue pricing / multipliers, dilution, value capture mechanics
Without this, you're often analyzing fiction.
Just midnight thoughts. NFA.
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X posts:
• https://x.com/vasily_sumanov
• https://x.com/valueverse_ai/status/2058666160569434469
Thanks to the market.
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Midnight thought on the Selective Altseason thesis.
Three main pillars:
1. Decentralized "AI stocks": $VVV, $POD, Pearl, a few others; writing research on them now
Strategy: be early on fundamental plays, separate them from narrative-only "AI" noise.
2. Revenue-generating tokens the market forgot (welcome $RAIL, re-pricing today, $WALLET follows)
- Strategy: know the true tokenholder revenue & economics before broader attention arrives.
3. New projects with strong token revenue potential
Built on business models we already understand deeply.
$YB → improved ve-model built on the foundations of $CRV
$NEST → metaDEX playbook highly comparable to
$AERO
- Strategy: analyze what prices/valuations is possible through data of its historical reference:
TVL → protocol revenue → token revenue → revenue multipliers
For most of these strategies, public data is broken:
- Not "TVL" or "protocol revenue". That’s surface-level.
- The real edge is verified token-level attribution: actual token holder revenue, eligible market cap (not generic circulation), revenue pricing / multipliers, dilution, value capture mechanics
Without this, you're often analyzing fiction.
Just midnight thoughts. NFA.
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X posts:
• https://x.com/vasily_sumanov
• https://x.com/valueverse_ai/status/2058666160569434469
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$VVV - Search / X
The latest posts on $VVV. Read what people are saying and join the conversation.
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It's interesting that while $HYPE remains strong, it's ecosystem follows.
See $KNTQ, $NEST (this one is unique and is traded 5-6x since just recent times).
We explored NEST early.
See $KNTQ, $NEST (this one is unique and is traded 5-6x since just recent times).
We explored NEST early.
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📍First feedback on the MVP of Accrual is in.
If you would like to be in the first wave of testing the product, reach out to us. If you’ve already signed up for a preview, an email with access info from team@valueverse.ai should be waiting in your inbox.
https://x.com/lordjorx/status/2064151491624268149?s=20
If you would like to be in the first wave of testing the product, reach out to us. If you’ve already signed up for a preview, an email with access info from team@valueverse.ai should be waiting in your inbox.
https://x.com/lordjorx/status/2064151491624268149?s=20
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Jordi in Cryptoland (@lordjorx) on X
Will crypto ever value DeFi on cash flows?
I've been digging through @valueverse_ai data recently, and two metrics changed how I look at DeFi valuations.
> The first is Effective Market Cap.
Many DeFi tokens have emission schedules that dilute supply for…
I've been digging through @valueverse_ai data recently, and two metrics changed how I look at DeFi valuations.
> The first is Effective Market Cap.
Many DeFi tokens have emission schedules that dilute supply for…
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Some alpha: these tokens will be added next to Valueverse
$NEST $ABX $DRV
All fundamental assets with cashflows. Check our first view on that:
https://x.com/valueverse_ai/status/2064424060692340848
$NEST $ABX $DRV
All fundamental assets with cashflows. Check our first view on that:
https://x.com/valueverse_ai/status/2064424060692340848
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Valueverse (@valueverse_ai) on X
Valueverse: Aborean, Nest, and Derive added to Listing Roadmap
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The recent Grayscale report on digital assets valuation highlighted: top-tier market participants recognize tokens as investable asset class that could be analysed via equity-style lens.
In our recent report, we provide additional considerations how to make this analysis more precise: https://x.com/vasily_sumanov/status/2067984839458824454
• Revenue ≠ Holder Cash Flow in most cases. Since protocol revenue often doesn't accrue directly to token holders, identifying holder-captured cash flows is essential for accurate valuation.
• Revenue Eligibility criterias. Staking, locking, and governance requirements often create revenue-eligible and non-eligible subclasses of supply.
• Dilution adjustment. Accounting emissions and unlocks is important piece of analysis to calculate real holders economics
The purpose of this article is not to challenge Grayscale's framework, but rather to expand on it by discussing several important factors that can help investors better evaluate cash-flow-generating crypto assets.
In our recent report, we provide additional considerations how to make this analysis more precise: https://x.com/vasily_sumanov/status/2067984839458824454
• Revenue ≠ Holder Cash Flow in most cases. Since protocol revenue often doesn't accrue directly to token holders, identifying holder-captured cash flows is essential for accurate valuation.
• Revenue Eligibility criterias. Staking, locking, and governance requirements often create revenue-eligible and non-eligible subclasses of supply.
• Dilution adjustment. Accounting emissions and unlocks is important piece of analysis to calculate real holders economics
The purpose of this article is not to challenge Grayscale's framework, but rather to expand on it by discussing several important factors that can help investors better evaluate cash-flow-generating crypto assets.
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Vasily Sumanov (@vasily_sumanov) on X
What institutions miss when valuing tokens
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This is exacty the reason why we build Valueverse.
https://x.com/MikeIppolito_/status/2069069423642616030
You can alsways access app.valueverse.ai for correct revenues
https://x.com/MikeIppolito_/status/2069069423642616030
You can alsways access app.valueverse.ai for correct revenues
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Mippo 🟪 (@MikeIppolito_) on X
At this point you should ignore crypto data you see on Twitter that doesn't come from Blockworks, Token Terminal, etc...
I hate to dunk, but had to say something here because:
1. Almost no reven…
I hate to dunk, but had to say something here because:
1. Almost no reven…
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Smart people realise how powerful Holder P/FCF is:
https://x.com/yashasedu/status/2069274096421232772?s=46
https://x.com/yashasedu/status/2069274096421232772?s=46
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YashasEdu (@YashasEdu) on X
Ngl @valueverse_ai' 30D Holder P/FCF screener is quietly one of the sharpest lenses in DeFi right now.
Lowest multiples (tightest cash flow to holders)👇
• @pendle_fi: 4.2x
• @Pumpfun: 6.3x
• @AerodromeFi: 7.3x
• @AskVenice : 7.8x
These protocols don’t…
Lowest multiples (tightest cash flow to holders)👇
• @pendle_fi: 4.2x
• @Pumpfun: 6.3x
• @AerodromeFi: 7.3x
• @AskVenice : 7.8x
These protocols don’t…
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Release: Yield Basis Protocol Financials
Live accounting for revenues & expenses:
• LP gains (v1/v2/v3) realized/unrealized + veYB fees
• $YB Emissions (Rewards, Curve Licensing)
https://x.com/valueverse_ai/status/2069842516736671818
Live accounting for revenues & expenses:
• LP gains (v1/v2/v3) realized/unrealized + veYB fees
• $YB Emissions (Rewards, Curve Licensing)
https://x.com/valueverse_ai/status/2069842516736671818
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Interesting observation:
Same trade, both assets: $1k/week, 130 weeks → $130k in.
$BTC → $101.5k (−$28.5k)
$AERO + veAERO fees → $326k
And only $47.6k of AERO's gain is price. $149k is yield.
You don't need price to go up if the asset pays you.
Thanks our user @lordjorx to finding this https://x.com/lordjorx/status/2069851550487298330
Same trade, both assets: $1k/week, 130 weeks → $130k in.
$BTC → $101.5k (−$28.5k)
$AERO + veAERO fees → $326k
And only $47.6k of AERO's gain is price. $149k is yield.
You don't need price to go up if the asset pays you.
Thanks our user @lordjorx to finding this https://x.com/lordjorx/status/2069851550487298330
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Jordi in Cryptoland (@lordjorx) on X
These backtests for yield-bearing assets are insane.
@valueverse_ai has a module that runs DCA backtests ($1,000/week) across four strategies for yield-bearing positions.
The numbers for @VelodromeFi vs @AerodromeFi are super interesting.
VELO, $1,000/week…
@valueverse_ai has a module that runs DCA backtests ($1,000/week) across four strategies for yield-bearing positions.
The numbers for @VelodromeFi vs @AerodromeFi are super interesting.
VELO, $1,000/week…
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Few tokens stay strong on this bear market.
$GOMINING is one of them: since March 1, the token has declined only from $0.30 to $0.28.
Looking at the last 18 months:
• Holders revenue: $14.2m distributed to veGOMINING (23% APY, ~6x 1Y Holder P/FCF)
• $72.8m of organic token demand from users purchasing and spending $GOMINING to reduce mining costs (over $10m saved)
• 58.9% of the supply locked in ve-tokenomics and 7.5% permanently burned
Valueverse data: https://gomining.valueverse.ai/
$GOMINING is one of them: since March 1, the token has declined only from $0.30 to $0.28.
Looking at the last 18 months:
• Holders revenue: $14.2m distributed to veGOMINING (23% APY, ~6x 1Y Holder P/FCF)
• $72.8m of organic token demand from users purchasing and spending $GOMINING to reduce mining costs (over $10m saved)
• 58.9% of the supply locked in ve-tokenomics and 7.5% permanently burned
Valueverse data: https://gomining.valueverse.ai/
GoMining × Valueverse
GoMining — Token Mechanics & Utility Dashboard
GoMining token economics dashboard — protocol revenue, discount mechanics, veGOMINING utility, and on-chain metrics.
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We just announced three new listings:
• f(x) Protocol $FXN
• Ramses $RAM
• StakeDAO $SDT
All these assets generate revenue for their holders. At Valueverse's Accrual (app.valueverse.ai) we will track:
• Holders revenue & revenue-eligible market cap
• P/FCF investment multiples
• Related metrics
Full article: https://x.com/valueverse_ai/status/2072014451465699788
• f(x) Protocol $FXN
• Ramses $RAM
• StakeDAO $SDT
All these assets generate revenue for their holders. At Valueverse's Accrual (app.valueverse.ai) we will track:
• Holders revenue & revenue-eligible market cap
• P/FCF investment multiples
• Related metrics
Full article: https://x.com/valueverse_ai/status/2072014451465699788
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An example what can be easily found with Valueverse engine:
Yield Basis supply insight:
- Over 10% of the theoretical
$YB supply is already locked (103M vs. 1B)
- veYB has absorbed 100% of all emitted $YB
Breakdown:
- Emissions: 42.0M (LPs) + 10.1M (Curve licensing) = 52.1m
- User locks (excluding team & investors): 61.0M YB
- Net absorption: +8.9M YB (61.0M locked vs. 52.1M emitted)
On top of that, another ~42M YB is locked by the team and investors.
Original tweet: https://x.com/valueverse_ai/status/2075185042184143242
Yield Basis supply insight:
- Over 10% of the theoretical
$YB supply is already locked (103M vs. 1B)
- veYB has absorbed 100% of all emitted $YB
Breakdown:
- Emissions: 42.0M (LPs) + 10.1M (Curve licensing) = 52.1m
- User locks (excluding team & investors): 61.0M YB
- Net absorption: +8.9M YB (61.0M locked vs. 52.1M emitted)
On top of that, another ~42M YB is locked by the team and investors.
Original tweet: https://x.com/valueverse_ai/status/2075185042184143242
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