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https://telegra.ph/The-Heroes-of-the-Iliad-as-Indo-European-Gods-A-Mythological-Rosetta-Stone-02-02
-Owen, The Sun Riders
@solarcult
The Heroes of the Iliad as Indo-European Gods: A Mythological Rosetta Stone
Part 1 of 9: Agamemnon
Part 1 of our in-depth series on the Iliad Heroes as Indo-European gods. Will the Greeks be vindicated?
https://telegra.ph/The-Heroes-of-the-Iliad-as-Indo-European-Gods-A-Mythological-Rosetta-Stone-02-02
-Owen, The Sun Riders
@solarcult
The Heroes of the Iliad as Indo-European Gods: A Mythological Rosetta Stone
Part 1 of 9: Agamemnon
Part 1 of our in-depth series on the Iliad Heroes as Indo-European gods. Will the Greeks be vindicated?
Telegraph
The Heroes of the Iliad as Indo-European Gods: A Mythological Rosetta Stone: Part 1 of 9
Agamemnon Comparing the Iliad to the other Indo-European epics, the Indian Mahabharata and the Irish Battle of Magh Tuireadh, we can see quickly that it is descended from the same tradition, the same material, but recast in a Greek form. This being plain…
Les héros de l'Iliade comme dieux indo-européens : une pierre de Rosette mythologique : Partie 2/9
Here is a French translation of the second part of O'Gravy's research series on the Indo-European archetypes found in the Iliad, enjoy.
-Matamoro, The Sun Riders
@solarcult
Here is a French translation of the second part of O'Gravy's research series on the Indo-European archetypes found in the Iliad, enjoy.
-Matamoro, The Sun Riders
@solarcult
Telegraph
Les héros de l'Iliade comme dieux indo-européens : une pierre de Rosette mythologique : Partie 2/9
Ménélas - Mitra (le Souverain Légitime) I Tout comme Mitra et Varuna forment un couple divin qui alternent comme souverains, Ménélas est le frère cadet d'Agamemnon, tous deux rois à part entière. Agamemnon est plus âgé que Ménélas, tout comme Varuna est le…
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https://telegra.ph/The-Iliad-Heroes-etc-Part-2-of-9-02-08
The Heroes of the Iliad as Indo-European Gods: A Mythological Rosetta Stone
Part 2 of 9: Menelaus
Part 2. This section is the linchpin of the series as Mitra is the linchpin of the divine society. Menelaus has hidden depths, and this is where you start to see the pattern.
-O’Gravy, The Sun Riders
“Just as Mitra and Varuna form a divine pair who alternate as sovereigns, so Menelaus is Agamemnon's younger brother, both kings in their own right.”
“When they face off, Menelaus throws his spear at Paris. It goes through his shield, but Paris is rescued by Aphrodite before he can be killed…Crucially, the Vedic Yudhishthira is known as one so skilled with a spear that he can throw it through solid stone as if it was paper, exactly as Lleu actually does.”
“Lleu Llaw Gyffes' myth is so identical in every part to the story of Menelaus that it begins to seem like it may have been a direct borrowing by the Welsh from the Iliad [...]”
The Heroes of the Iliad as Indo-European Gods: A Mythological Rosetta Stone
Part 2 of 9: Menelaus
Part 2. This section is the linchpin of the series as Mitra is the linchpin of the divine society. Menelaus has hidden depths, and this is where you start to see the pattern.
-O’Gravy, The Sun Riders
“Just as Mitra and Varuna form a divine pair who alternate as sovereigns, so Menelaus is Agamemnon's younger brother, both kings in their own right.”
“When they face off, Menelaus throws his spear at Paris. It goes through his shield, but Paris is rescued by Aphrodite before he can be killed…Crucially, the Vedic Yudhishthira is known as one so skilled with a spear that he can throw it through solid stone as if it was paper, exactly as Lleu actually does.”
“Lleu Llaw Gyffes' myth is so identical in every part to the story of Menelaus that it begins to seem like it may have been a direct borrowing by the Welsh from the Iliad [...]”
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Before Vladimir of the Kievan Rus adopted Christianity for he and his subjects, the East Slavs worshipped a pantheon of ancient Gods; Perun, "the Thunderer"; Svarog, the All-Father; Dazhbog, "the warming sun", and Veles, "the God of Cattle", amongst others.
Painting: The Temple of a Slavic God, V. Ivanov
Painting: The Temple of a Slavic God, V. Ivanov
Αρυολογία☀️ (The Indo-Europeans)
Before Vladimir of the Kievan Rus adopted Christianity for he and his subjects, the East Slavs worshipped a pantheon of ancient Gods; Perun, "the Thunderer"; Svarog, the All-Father; Dazhbog, "the warming sun", and Veles, "the God of Cattle", amongst others.…
Glad to see Aryology take an interest in Slavic paganism, however, I must correct them on one matter and also expand on my earlier post concerning Svarog (https://t.me/solarcult/416).
We know that Svarog is mentioned in the Hypathian Codex as Father of the Sun, Dazhbog, and that he introduced monogamy amongst people and gave them tools with which they were able to make metal weapons. This is the only preserved mention we have of him and it represents a Slavic translation of a story written by John Malalas, a Byzantine chronicler. In it, Malalas referred to the father as Hephaestus and to the son as Helios. Now, from Greek mythology we know that Hephaestus is not Father of the Sun, nor is he All Father, but he is the Blacksmith God and that is why Svarog's name was used in the Slavic translation, because he is the Blacksmith.
One more thing worth mentioning is that Malalas was writing Christian history, his chronicle begins with Adam. By including Greek deities in his chronicle, he explains them as past kings. This was a common theme amongst early Christians and it is called euhemerism.
- Daelendil, The Sun Riders
@solarcult
We know that Svarog is mentioned in the Hypathian Codex as Father of the Sun, Dazhbog, and that he introduced monogamy amongst people and gave them tools with which they were able to make metal weapons. This is the only preserved mention we have of him and it represents a Slavic translation of a story written by John Malalas, a Byzantine chronicler. In it, Malalas referred to the father as Hephaestus and to the son as Helios. Now, from Greek mythology we know that Hephaestus is not Father of the Sun, nor is he All Father, but he is the Blacksmith God and that is why Svarog's name was used in the Slavic translation, because he is the Blacksmith.
One more thing worth mentioning is that Malalas was writing Christian history, his chronicle begins with Adam. By including Greek deities in his chronicle, he explains them as past kings. This was a common theme amongst early Christians and it is called euhemerism.
- Daelendil, The Sun Riders
@solarcult
Did you ever see a robin weep?
When leaves begin to die?
-Hank Williams.
Death is what some would believe to be the end of the road, the final chapter of a story. The book laid to rest; I however beg to differ. Death is the vehicle of change and the great refresher, all things are born anew through death. The modern idea of death is a very solemn thing, and that is somewhat understandable. So many unknowns, a plethora of what-ifs. But does that mean death is a solemn occasion? There are differences in the afterlife beliefs between pantheons, so I won't appeal to that, but what I would like to raise a point about is much simpler: Do you revere your ancestors before you? Their accomplishments? Do you find their pictures hard to look away from? Their stories fascinating? When they died, their story did not end abruptly. They live on as the wheel turns. Trees die and saplings grow. But you'll never see a robin cry when leaves begin to die.
William, The Sun Riders
@solarcult
When leaves begin to die?
-Hank Williams.
Death is what some would believe to be the end of the road, the final chapter of a story. The book laid to rest; I however beg to differ. Death is the vehicle of change and the great refresher, all things are born anew through death. The modern idea of death is a very solemn thing, and that is somewhat understandable. So many unknowns, a plethora of what-ifs. But does that mean death is a solemn occasion? There are differences in the afterlife beliefs between pantheons, so I won't appeal to that, but what I would like to raise a point about is much simpler: Do you revere your ancestors before you? Their accomplishments? Do you find their pictures hard to look away from? Their stories fascinating? When they died, their story did not end abruptly. They live on as the wheel turns. Trees die and saplings grow. But you'll never see a robin cry when leaves begin to die.
William, The Sun Riders
@solarcult
https://telegra.ph/Leshy-Personal-Experience-05-01
Leshy: Personal Experience
In this post I share with you my first personal experience with Leshy, his wrath and blessing.
-Daelendil, The Sun Riders
@solarcult
Leshy: Personal Experience
In this post I share with you my first personal experience with Leshy, his wrath and blessing.
-Daelendil, The Sun Riders
@solarcult
Forwarded from Αρυολογία☀️ (The Indo-Europeans)
Example of the Glagolitic Script initially used to write Old Church Slavonic, c. 862 CE.
The Valknut (a name not historically attested) is a rare symbol appearing on a few runestones, both examples I'm aware of are on Gotland.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T%C3%A4ngelg%C3%A5rda_stone
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stora_Hammars_stones
Not a symbol I've thought much about, but a friend of mine gave me his thoughts on it recently.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T%C3%A4ngelg%C3%A5rda_stone
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stora_Hammars_stones
Not a symbol I've thought much about, but a friend of mine gave me his thoughts on it recently.
The Valknut, an interpretation by Bartacus, a colleague of The Sun Riders.
Every part of reality has three components, time has past, present and future, volume has depth, length and height, the universe has space, time and matter, the human has body, soul and spirit etc. The cosmology of the ancient Germanics had nine worlds, so three times three. These parts can't be separated, they are fixed together. There is no way to break this tripartite system. That's why the triangles are locked in each other. They can never be unbound. There are three triangles, so with nine angles. This numerology is very based and should be considered when valuing the symbol. The symbol has been interpreted to have symbolized the linking of the fallen warriors to Wotan, they are bound in this way. I think that the triangles have been chosen purposefully, and the number of three triangles too. Everything is made out of three things, and these things are also made out of three things. The germanic components of the soul are linked in the same way. The heroic part, the spiritedness, the part that drives us to a warriors death, it is linked to the other two parts, reason and appetite, in platonic terminology.
Every part of reality has three components, time has past, present and future, volume has depth, length and height, the universe has space, time and matter, the human has body, soul and spirit etc. The cosmology of the ancient Germanics had nine worlds, so three times three. These parts can't be separated, they are fixed together. There is no way to break this tripartite system. That's why the triangles are locked in each other. They can never be unbound. There are three triangles, so with nine angles. This numerology is very based and should be considered when valuing the symbol. The symbol has been interpreted to have symbolized the linking of the fallen warriors to Wotan, they are bound in this way. I think that the triangles have been chosen purposefully, and the number of three triangles too. Everything is made out of three things, and these things are also made out of three things. The germanic components of the soul are linked in the same way. The heroic part, the spiritedness, the part that drives us to a warriors death, it is linked to the other two parts, reason and appetite, in platonic terminology.
Additional Valknuts:
1. Bedpost on the Oseberg ship, famous Viking age burial, Norway (~900 CE)
2. Lid or cutting board, also from the Oseberg ship
3. Nene River Ring, generally believed to be Anglo-Saxon, although this is contested. (700-900 CE)
https://www.artefactology.wordpress.com/2015/04/21/nene-river-ring-and-valknut/amp/
https://artefactology.wordpress.com/2016/06/12/nene-river-ring-a-symbol-of-religious-dichotomy/amp/
-Hariwulfaz, The Sun Riders
@solarcult
1. Bedpost on the Oseberg ship, famous Viking age burial, Norway (~900 CE)
2. Lid or cutting board, also from the Oseberg ship
3. Nene River Ring, generally believed to be Anglo-Saxon, although this is contested. (700-900 CE)
https://www.artefactology.wordpress.com/2015/04/21/nene-river-ring-and-valknut/amp/
https://artefactology.wordpress.com/2016/06/12/nene-river-ring-a-symbol-of-religious-dichotomy/amp/
-Hariwulfaz, The Sun Riders
@solarcult
https://telegra.ph/Les-h%C3%A9ros-de-lIliade-comme-dieux-indo-europ%C3%A9ens--une-pierre-de-Rosette-mythologique--Partie-39-04-30
Matamoro's French translation of part 3 of O'Gravy's series that investigates the Iliad.
@solarcult
Matamoro's French translation of part 3 of O'Gravy's series that investigates the Iliad.
@solarcult
Telegraph
Les héros de l'Iliade comme dieux indo-européens : une pierre de Rosette mythologique : Partie 3/9
Ajax - Vayu (Le Seigneur des Vents) Ajax télamonien, comme on l'a vu ailleurs, semble être le pendant évident du puissant Seigneur des Vents, Vayu, et de son incarnation, Bhima. Le lien le plus immédiat est la taille et la force d'Ajax et de Bhima. Ajax est…
Forwarded from ☀️The Sun Riders☀️
https://telegra.ph/The-Heroes-of-the-Iliad-as-Indo-European-Gods-A-Mythological-Rosetta-Stone-Part-3-of-9-02-09
The Heroes of the Iliad as Indo-European Gods: A Mythological Rosetta Stone
Part 3 of 9: Ajax
In this part we find the Lord of Wind in the hero Ajax, always the largest and strongest god as he is the god of the life-breath.
- O’Gravy, The Sun Riders
“Ajax is known to be so powerful and courageous that when it comes time to draw lots to face Hector in single combat, Ajax steps forward and all the Achaeans pray that he will be chosen, and only Diomedes or Agamemnon may suffice if it is not him. He is chosen and greets the news with joy, and thus we get the formalized bout between the two bafflingly powerful heroes in which Ajax fights Hector to a draw and they exchange gifts...”
The Heroes of the Iliad as Indo-European Gods: A Mythological Rosetta Stone
Part 3 of 9: Ajax
In this part we find the Lord of Wind in the hero Ajax, always the largest and strongest god as he is the god of the life-breath.
- O’Gravy, The Sun Riders
“Ajax is known to be so powerful and courageous that when it comes time to draw lots to face Hector in single combat, Ajax steps forward and all the Achaeans pray that he will be chosen, and only Diomedes or Agamemnon may suffice if it is not him. He is chosen and greets the news with joy, and thus we get the formalized bout between the two bafflingly powerful heroes in which Ajax fights Hector to a draw and they exchange gifts...”
https://telegra.ph/Les-h%C3%A9ros-de-lIliade-comme-dieux-indo-europ%C3%A9ens--une-pierre-de-Rosette-mythologique--Partie-49-04-30
Part 4/9 of O'Gravy's Iliad series in french, English to follow.
@solarcult
Part 4/9 of O'Gravy's Iliad series in french, English to follow.
@solarcult
Telegraph
Les héros de l'Iliade comme dieux indo-européens : une pierre de Rosette mythologique : Partie 4/9
Achilles - Indra (Le Tonnant) Le principal exemple utilisé par Dumezil pour démontrer qu'Arjuna est l'incarnation d'Indra (en plus du fait qu'il soit le "fils spirituel" d'Indra) est que pendant la bataille entre Indra et Surya, le char de Surya perd sa roue…
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https://telegra.ph/The-Heroes-of-the-Iliad-as-Indo-European-Gods-A-Mythological-Rosetta-Stone-Part-4-of-9-02-12
The Heroes of the Iliad as Indo-European Gods: A Mythological Rosetta Stone
Part 4 of 9: Achilles
The Thunderer is the warrior god of Skill, and around him circles the question of Dharma, Virtue, Honor.
- O’Gravy, The Sun Riders
“...both Arjuna and Achilles are famous for their mourning over another warrior's death, a warrior who is beloved by and tied closely to them. For Achilles this is Patroclus, Achilles' comrade from youth, but for Arjuna it is actually his son, Abhimanyu. The general parallel has been noted before, but it can actually be seen that this is not merely a vague similarity, but that the same story is here being told.”
The Heroes of the Iliad as Indo-European Gods: A Mythological Rosetta Stone
Part 4 of 9: Achilles
The Thunderer is the warrior god of Skill, and around him circles the question of Dharma, Virtue, Honor.
- O’Gravy, The Sun Riders
“...both Arjuna and Achilles are famous for their mourning over another warrior's death, a warrior who is beloved by and tied closely to them. For Achilles this is Patroclus, Achilles' comrade from youth, but for Arjuna it is actually his son, Abhimanyu. The general parallel has been noted before, but it can actually be seen that this is not merely a vague similarity, but that the same story is here being told.”
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The Roman God Mars—of war, soldiers & farmers—was second only to Jupiter and an aspect of the Archaic Triad.
His role corresponds to the Second Function of the Indo-European tripartite societal system.
His name's origin is uncertain. Latin Mārs is found poetically in Old Latin ("Māvors", "Māvortis"), and some scholars believe the name comes from Etruscan Maris ("Mariś'). Mars was originally a Thunder God, or "Striking God" (from PIE *(s)tenh₂-), and thus a thematic reflex of the Proto-Indo-European striking God Perkwunos ("*perkwunos").
His role corresponds to the Second Function of the Indo-European tripartite societal system.
His name's origin is uncertain. Latin Mārs is found poetically in Old Latin ("Māvors", "Māvortis"), and some scholars believe the name comes from Etruscan Maris ("Mariś'). Mars was originally a Thunder God, or "Striking God" (from PIE *(s)tenh₂-), and thus a thematic reflex of the Proto-Indo-European striking God Perkwunos ("*perkwunos").
enos Lases iuvate
enos Lases iuvate
enos Lases iuvate
neve lue rue Marmar sins incurrere in pleoris
neve lue rue Marmar sins incurrere in pleoris
neve lue rue Marmar sins incurrere in pleoris
satur fu, fere Mars, limen sali, sta berber
satur fu, fere Mars, limen sali, sta berber
satur fu, fere Mars, limen sali, sta berber
semunis alterni advocapit conctos
semunis alterni advocapit conctos
semunis alterni advocapit conctos
enos Marmor iuvato
enos Marmor iuvato
enos Marmor iuvato
triumpe triumpe triumpe triumpe triumpe.
Translation:
Lares help us,
Lares help us,
Lares help us,
do not allow Mars to fall on many.
do not allow Mars to fall on many.
do not allow Mars to fall on many.
Be full, cruel Mars. Jump over the threshold. Stay there.
Be full, cruel Mars. Jump over the threshold. Stay there.
Be full, cruel Mars. Jump over the threshold. Stay there.
Invoke in turn all the seed gods.
Invoke in turn all the seed gods.
Invoke in turn all the seed gods.
Help us Mars.
Help us Mars.
Help us Mars.
Triumph, triumph, triumph, triumph, triumph.
From the Carmen Arvale, an important chant to Mars
Ave Mārs!
An important concept in all of our pantheons, regardless of what Indo-European tradition you follow.
-Owen, The Sun Riders
@solarcult
enos Lases iuvate
enos Lases iuvate
neve lue rue Marmar sins incurrere in pleoris
neve lue rue Marmar sins incurrere in pleoris
neve lue rue Marmar sins incurrere in pleoris
satur fu, fere Mars, limen sali, sta berber
satur fu, fere Mars, limen sali, sta berber
satur fu, fere Mars, limen sali, sta berber
semunis alterni advocapit conctos
semunis alterni advocapit conctos
semunis alterni advocapit conctos
enos Marmor iuvato
enos Marmor iuvato
enos Marmor iuvato
triumpe triumpe triumpe triumpe triumpe.
Translation:
Lares help us,
Lares help us,
Lares help us,
do not allow Mars to fall on many.
do not allow Mars to fall on many.
do not allow Mars to fall on many.
Be full, cruel Mars. Jump over the threshold. Stay there.
Be full, cruel Mars. Jump over the threshold. Stay there.
Be full, cruel Mars. Jump over the threshold. Stay there.
Invoke in turn all the seed gods.
Invoke in turn all the seed gods.
Invoke in turn all the seed gods.
Help us Mars.
Help us Mars.
Help us Mars.
Triumph, triumph, triumph, triumph, triumph.
From the Carmen Arvale, an important chant to Mars
Ave Mārs!
An important concept in all of our pantheons, regardless of what Indo-European tradition you follow.
-Owen, The Sun Riders
@solarcult