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DAN A4 Build + 3950X

So finally most of my pain is over!

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I put together this build as my personal rig for traveling, I really want to fit an EVGA 3070 which should fit, but will be awaiting the normal GPU pricing to return.

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Managed to somehow fit 5 case fans in this, 2 of which are 120mm.

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I strongly suggest printing the DAN case spacer from thingiverse, on the CPU side, allows about an extra 15mm, I think this will also be needed for the GPU side for most 30xx cards.

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Dan Case A4

B450I GAMING PLUS AC WiFi AM4 Mini ITX

AMD Ryzen 9 3950X (16Core/32 Threads)

Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO 64GB (2x32GB) DDR4 3000

Palit NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 6GB

Corsair MP400 1TB M.2 PCIe

Samsung 4TB 860 SSD

Corsair SF Series SF600 SFX 600W Gold

AsusTek 92MM AIO + Noctua Fan

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Partial build photo.

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https://preview.redd.it/gp8h9k1mxnn61.jpg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=49bb6e3dd9bdce237a6dc0237b6f61f3b33e10c4

https://preview.redd.it/26b5mq1mxnn61.jpg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e0928caf1560ebec5e52c5b6ed9f5ca964bd1f53

I really wanted the extra USB A's on the front as it's super helpful.

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Stuff to revist:

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Custom power cables. (I feel this caused generally so much pain in my build, but I wasn't able to find a supplier easily in the UK)

Reprint spacer with a few extra mm to stop the slight gap.

extend power button cable.

replace higher quality rise.

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Idle Temps:

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https://preview.redd.it/jpqewuauxnn61.png?width=508&format=png&auto=webp&s=45938ec940d18697ec97419318abbdbfb98b00c6

Build Cost:

Stuff was generally from Amazon UK / Warehouse, OCuK and Scan.

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https://preview.redd.it/laxwjr020on61.png?width=420&format=png&auto=webp&s=8b4f57d45a0257d6359769edd003ead0f2e3ce3e

https://redd.it/m7c7su
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Custom loop in a jonsbo A4

So I just wanted some input on what you guys think about a single loop with a 240 mil radiator and a 5800x and 3080. Would that be to hot in a single loop with even a decent undervolt on the gpu?

https://redd.it/m7jb5m
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TU150 rear M.2 cooling question
https://redd.it/m7i7vl
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Black Ridge Compatibility w/ 120mm Fan Underneath

So I have an MSI B550i motherboard, and I am going to be moving from an SG13 to a Velka 7. I recently made the purchase of VLP RAM so I can put a 120mm fan under the heatsink because I want maximum airflow obviously, but will it work on my board? Has anyone tried it out? I definitely would have to take off the m.2 heatsink in the front, which is no problem, but I'm not sure if I would have to make any other changes.

Also, what boards do people know work with this configuration? In the case that I need to change motherboards, it would be good for me (and others) to know what does work.

On a different note, I would not mind changing this motherboard as I have had so many times where bluetooth capability just goes away, sometimes for a minute, other times for a day, which is obviously very annoying as I rely on bluetooth for my audio often.

https://redd.it/m7e0kg
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Smallest case for the EVGA 3060 XC?

I just got an EVGA 3060 XC and I'm keen to use it as a portable PCVR system with my Oculus. What is the smallest and most portable case that can fit the EVGA 3060 XC?

https://redd.it/m7la8i
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Help Buying Aklla a4v2 / Ghost S1 in UK

Hi could do with a little help finding a case like the Ghost S1 or Aklla a4v2 in the UK

I'm using a TU150 at the mo but would like to downsize a little more, so any other case ideas would be awesome just needs to fit an SFX PSU and a TUF 3080 ( WHEN i can get my hands on one)

i'm just finding it hard to find small ITX cases in the UK.

Also what would be a good low profile cooler for a 9700K ?

Thanks

https://redd.it/m7m1bv
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First SFF build getting a dual rad setup (5900x/RTX 3070) any tips?
https://redd.it/m7my9s
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Help regarding first time Build

I have been thinking to build an ITX build using CM NR200n case with 5950x and 3070 with MSI B550i Gaming edge WiFi mobo, I have been having hard time deciding about cooling, should I go with liquid cooling or air cooling, and which one?
Is 5950x + 3070 in a NR200N good choice for long term in terms of thermals.
My major purpose is of content creation ( 3d rendering + davinci Resolve) .
Please help !

https://redd.it/m7nnx1
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Flex ATX PSU for low powered 4bay NAS?

I'm currently getting the parts together to build a small 4 bay NAS that will go under my TV and work as a Plex media server. This means that the system needs to be as quiet as possible.

I'm looking at a 10liter case atm which supports flexatx PSUs. I've done a fair bit of research and it seems that every flex PSU out there is fairly loud. The most popular models (enhance, fsp and Silverstone) still seem to be fairly loud but most comments are related to using them along with a GPU in higher wattage consumption setups.

So my question is the following. Which flex ATX PSU would perform with minimal noise under very low wattage consumption (just a low end CPU and 4 HDDs)?

Wattage requirements for my setup will be minimal but from what I understand, something to be aware of is also the fan curve of these PSUs as it seems that sometimes fans operate regardless of wattage consumption.


I've had a thought of switching the fan of the PSU but if rather not go through the trouble of doing that.

https://redd.it/m7p3m2
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RCC-BIG2 | customizable case with traditional layout | supports 280mm AIOs and pretty big GPUs
https://www.reddit.com/gallery/m7ppzy

https://redd.it/m7ppzy
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Smallest case for Ryzen 3900x + low-tier GPU?

Hello,

Currently planning my first build. Mostly used for coding / calculating huge files.
I see a lot of examples where the GPU plays a big part as well but in my case it's not that important.
Currently available for me are:

- Dan A4

- Ncase M1


I might upgrade the GPU at some point but realistically I won't. Could I get away with the Dan with decent CPU temps or should I go for the Ncase? I'm also open for other cases available in Europe. (China cases are fine as well) :)

Thanks for reading!

https://redd.it/m7qv97
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First Full Loop: Project Aquarium

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https://preview.redd.it/t6t6fgcwtsn61.jpg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d2f085f8472263888f90851efa3d53b0fe9221f9

TLDR:Thicc Boi Stuffed

LONG ALBUM LONG ALBUM

(Hope this still counts as sff haha) Hey all, I am happy to share this build now that it is completes, as it was a lot of time planning I wasn’t quite sure it would work. A few years ago I needed to make a PC for work with a fast cpu. I was newb and made a basic Fractal tower and in doing so I realized there was so much unused space, especially when I removed the HD holders. The build also kicked off an obsession with keyboards, but that is a different post for a different sub… I always prefer things that are small/compact/organized and all that wasted space bugged me. A few years later, as I started to get more into the idea of PC gaming, a friend showed me r/sff and I fell in love. I wanted to make a really small PC that I could actually travel with and game on. That came in the form of the Dan A4. I love this case and it is perfect for having a powerful portable rig, but for intense games it could get a little loud, only made worse by the fact I had it sitting right on the desk next to me.

After binging so many Optimum Tech videos, I decided I wanted to watercool my work computer, and use what I learned to make a totally top end watercooled gaming rig. Ali convinced me I needed 4k silent ultra gaming in my life, desperately. Covid struck and it only made me want it more, since I was spending so much more time gaming and on discord. The quarantine gave me a lot of time to plan and look at builds. I saw u/SimplyFabio ans his dual rad T1 build ( Simply Fabio's build ) and thought it would be challenging, but possible. So I upgraded my work computer into the T1 with an aquanaut. I quickly realized it was just too small to cool the components I wanted to use for the gaming rig, even with dual rad. I would need a larger case and debated between the M1 and the NR 200, choosing the latter because it had room for larger top fans.

I put my work rig in a black NR200 and used it as a proof of concept for how things would fit in the gaming rig. Once it was done and worked well, I decided to go all in. I wanted to go nuts with this, since now I spend almost my entire day on my computer between work and discord with friends.

GOALS:

Total Silent 4k gaming
No gpu riser
No slim fans
dedicated cpu block (no pump-block combo)
Wanted easy, no-drain maintenance and ability to entirely take apart the computer without draining the loop.
Every part can be taken out, side rad, bottom rad, gpu, and the cpu block can be removed to access cpu. You do not have to drail the loop to remove any of these parts.
Wanted to incorporate an idea I had of offset rotary fittings to make using the qdcs really easy to use.
Truly a no compromise build.

Initially I was going to do EK gpu and cpu blocks, but in the process of acquiring the parts something horrible happened that I will forever regret. I discovered Optimus watercooling. I am a sucker for brands that are made in the usa, but when a brand is not only domestic but also pushing the limit in terms of engineering and uncompromising quality, it makes me fangirl. I love to see that spirit still alive in the USA. I was lucky they were making a gpu block for the gpu i wanted in my build: the EVGA 3090 ftw. That was just insane luck since i picked it up before learning about them as a company. Once I finally got my hands on their stuff, I was beyond impressed. The acrylic they use on the gpu block is so thick that it inspired the name aquarium, as it reminded me of the aquarium when i was a kid and how the thick glass changed objects as you looked through it. I sold the EK stuff as soon as I got all the Optimus stuff and the build was set.. Here is
First Full Loop: Project Aquarium

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https://preview.redd.it/t6t6fgcwtsn61.jpg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d2f085f8472263888f90851efa3d53b0fe9221f9

TLDR:Thicc Boi Stuffed

[LONG ALBUM](https://imgur.com/a/RWEqnBD) [LONG ALBUM](https://imgur.com/a/OEz0S1j)

(Hope this still counts as sff haha) Hey all, I am happy to share this build now that it is completes, as it was a lot of time planning I wasn’t quite sure it would work. A few years ago I needed to make a PC for work with a fast cpu. I was newb and made a basic Fractal tower and in doing so I realized there was so much unused space, especially when I removed the HD holders. The build also kicked off an obsession with keyboards, but that is a different post for a different sub… I always prefer things that are small/compact/organized and all that wasted space bugged me. A few years later, as I started to get more into the idea of PC gaming, a friend showed me [r/sff](https://www.reddit.com/r/sff/) and I fell in love. I wanted to make a really small PC that I could actually travel with and game on. That came in the form of the Dan A4. I love this case and it is perfect for having a powerful portable rig, but for intense games it could get a little loud, only made worse by the fact I had it sitting right on the desk next to me.

After binging so many Optimum Tech videos, I decided I wanted to watercool my work computer, and use what I learned to make a totally top end watercooled gaming rig. Ali convinced me I needed 4k silent ultra gaming in my life, desperately. Covid struck and it only made me want it more, since I was spending so much more time gaming and on discord. The quarantine gave me a lot of time to plan and look at builds. I saw [u/SimplyFabio](https://www.reddit.com/u/SimplyFabio/) ans his dual rad T1 build ( [Simply Fabio's build](https://www.reddit.com/r/FormD/comments/j6s400/formd_t1_with_2x240_radiators_nouvolo_aquanaut/) ) and thought it would be challenging, but possible. So I upgraded my work computer into the T1 with an aquanaut. I quickly realized it was just too small to cool the components I wanted to use for the gaming rig, even with dual rad. I would need a larger case and debated between the M1 and the NR 200, choosing the latter because it had room for larger top fans.

I put my work rig in a black NR200 and used it as a proof of concept for how things would fit in the gaming rig. Once it was done and worked well, I decided to go all in. I wanted to go nuts with this, since now I spend almost my entire day on my computer between work and discord with friends.

GOALS:

* Total Silent 4k gaming
* No gpu riser
* No slim fans
* dedicated cpu block (no pump-block combo)
* Wanted easy, no-drain maintenance and ability to entirely take apart the computer without draining the loop.
* Every part can be taken out, side rad, bottom rad, gpu, and the cpu block can be removed to access cpu. You do not have to drail the loop to remove any of these parts.
* Wanted to incorporate an idea I had of offset rotary fittings to make using the qdcs really easy to use.
* Truly a no compromise build.

Initially I was going to do EK gpu and cpu blocks, but in the process of acquiring the parts something horrible happened that I will forever regret. I discovered Optimus watercooling. I am a sucker for brands that are made in the usa, but when a brand is not only domestic but also pushing the limit in terms of engineering and uncompromising quality, it makes me fangirl. I love to see that spirit still alive in the USA. I was lucky they were making a gpu block for the gpu i wanted in my build: the EVGA 3090 ftw. That was just insane luck since i picked it up before learning about them as a company. Once I finally got my hands on their stuff, I was beyond impressed. The acrylic they use on the gpu block is so thick that it inspired the name aquarium, as it reminded me of the aquarium when i was a kid and how the thick glass changed objects as you looked through it. I sold the EK stuff as soon as I got all the Optimus stuff and the build was set.. Here is
a list of parts and why I chose them:

* Asus X570 Impact- love their bios and seem reliable. Buildzoid's review was uncharacteristically effusive with his YT review. Modded with better fujipoly thermal pads for better chipset temps
* 5950x for flexing
* EVGA 3090 ftw3 ultra- I ALWAYS get evga gpus, best customer service of any brand imo
* Samsung 980 mostly just because i trust the brand name
* HW labs 280 GTX and 240 GTS: Amazing performance from what i have read, but don't have much to compare against. I am more impressed with the paint. Nearly automotive quality.
* Optimus blocks and compression/barb fittings everywhere I could use them. I am obsessed.
* Koolance angle fittings/qdcs. I think these guys are slept on because they don't do rgb stuff, but man I am impressed with Koolance stuff. Also, they are designed in USA and made in Korea!
* Noctua fans obvs
* Aquacomputer Quadro for fan and pump control

Unfortunately the only way to fit the optimus block in this case with a rad beneath it is to use an xspc TX240 and slim fans. I wanted to avoid doing that and one day it occurred to me that the recession in the bottom panel might match the rounded shape of the 240gts. This would also let me show off the nice color hw labs did on the rad which would otherwise not be seen. I liked the idea so I drilled 2 holes for the water and mounted the rad externally. This allowed me to use full size fans and have some breathing room below the gpu. I was able to get some 3D printed feet (thanks to [u/coyg04](https://www.reddit.com/u/coyg04/)) to get everything to fit nice. I even cut out the bottom dust filter to fit in the bottom rad, and can be easily taken in and out.

I knew I wanted to use a 280 rad on the side panel, but wasn't sure if I could fit the thick GTX or only the GTS. Thankfully with a bit of modding and some luck I was able to make the GTX fit. There are so many tight tolerances in the build, the gpu block to side panel, the side rad fans almost hit the MB sodimm m2 holder and also the iceman in port. Everything is pretty tight in there, but def nothing rubbing or putting undue pressure on anything else. It definitely all fits, amazingly

**RESULTS:**

After lots of coffee, a few mental breakdowns, 2 very late nights, and extremely sore fingers: the build is done and I am soooo happy. The temps are great: 1.5 hours of cinebench r23 run and Heaven saw coolant temps never above 44 and cpu/gpu never above 73/51 with the cpu running CTR 2 which gave me a nice uplift in cinebench. Ambient is 22. Temps were even better after a long gaming session playing Apex at ultra settings. Idle temps just a few degrees over ambient for the coolant, with the cpu idling around 31-33 and the gpu idling around 21-24. My best cinbench r23 score after installing ctr 2 was 28698 multi and 1623 single. Also, because the side rad fans are so close to the motherboard, the temps on the m2, chipset, and all the other motherboard components are really good. I never tried the motherboard with the stock thermal pads because I heard horror stories about bad temps and pads looking like goop. I swapped in fujipoly and now the chipset never goes above 64 under intense load, and idle at 35ish which I think is decent for x570. I just love this machine and I have to say thank s to lot of people, since I am aa dope and needed lots of help:

* [r/sff](https://www.reddit.com/r/sff/) for starting this whole mess...
* [u/NavicNick](https://www.reddit.com/u/NavicNick/): Smarter and nicer people are rarely found on this earth. Navic is the man for all things FormD T1. He was a great help in making me realize this build from the t1 all the way to the NR
* [u/Losercard](https://www.reddit.com/u/Losercard/): This man is a mad genius. I found him because he did amazing work making mods for the Dan case, and his custom cables are second to NONE. I have used them in all my builds and no amount of tugging, bending, folding etc has caused any to break. Amazing guy, and his work really made the build possible doing this with stock cables would be a nightmare.
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[u/coyg04](https://www.reddit.com/u/coyg04/) Nick was so great for working with me on making the feet for the case just right. If you need anything 3d printed, hit this dude up. He does a great job and is super nice/ helpful. [His Store](https://www.etsy.com/shop/NickelCityRobotics?ref=simple-shop-header-name&listing_id=935983227)
* [u/Matteo\_CoolerMaster](https://www.reddit.com/u/Matteo_CoolerMaster/) Matteo and his team made the NR200, and imo they deserve endless praise for doing such a great job with the case, and offering it at a fair price. Thank you to everyone at CM who worked on it, job well done.
* Optimus: Optimus got me most excited about this hole build, I am in love with their products and their no compromise approach. I hope they keep up the great work. ( if they are reading this please dm me i have 2 questions)
* Koolance: Koolance makes amazing stuff and this build would have been a lot harder without some of their fittings and their qdcs. Def sticking with them for weird angled fittings and adapters/ spacers in my future builds
* Optimum tech: Such great SFF/computer content on youtube. If you haven't watched his vids you should check it out, seems like such a great guy. I hope he would like this build if he saw it.

Keep your eyes peeled for a dual 280 in the future with better tube routing. I learned a lot in making this build and got some ideas along the way. Stay tinkering friends :)

https://redd.it/m7scp1
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Recently finished v2 of my vintage Sony radio hotrod build
https://www.reddit.com/gallery/m7teex

https://redd.it/m7teex
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Arctic Freezer 34e sports Duo Doesn’t Fit in NR200.
https://www.reddit.com/gallery/m7um9j

https://redd.it/m7um9j
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N-Case M1 owners post your 3090 temps and cooling setup.

I’ll start:
ASUS TUF 3090 + 5950x + Corsair 240m AIO with noctua fans + noctua rear exhaust fan.

Idle 54c
Max 69c

https://redd.it/m7wgpx
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Surprising results with 645LT as a janky U9S

In all its tiny glory

So I was initially going to post this as a bit of a joke showing off my janky 645LT doing its best U9S impression, but it has actually produced some really good results, and wanted to see if anyone has had a similar experience.

I was initially trying to find a stopgap for my C26 build that had a 240mm aio bottom-mounted under my 6800XT. While the max temps on the 5800X with the 240 were a little better than the current set up (maxed at around 70C v 75C currently in a stress test), the exhaust from the rad was making the GPU climb above 80C and was a bit worrying. I replaced the AIO with the 92mm version with two NF A9s set to exhaust (intake performed worse than both and made a bunch of turbulence noise) and have been getting idle temps in the high 20s and in-game temps in the low 60s.

I'm really taken aback on how well the tiny guy compares to the 240, like a few degrees worse under load and a solid 10c lower at idle. I was going to get a silver arrow 130, but I may just end up sticking with his little gem. Curious if anyone else has tried this in an Ncase or something and if the results were at all similar.

https://redd.it/m7vc1d
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3 months & 10-15 iterations later, my dual radiator Sunmilo T03 [11.5L] is complete! 5600X + 3070 [Captioned album]
https://www.reddit.com/gallery/m7ydjd

https://redd.it/m7ydjd
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SFF Case to watercool an ASUS 3080 TUF

Does anyone know what the smallest case I can get to do a dual rad loop with an ASUS 3080 Tuf and a 5900x? I currently have everything built in the NCASE M1 but it looks like it is just a bit too narrow to watercool that card in .

https://redd.it/m7ydif
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