AkhenOsiris
Everyone can exhale now...Steve Cohen says DeepSeek is bullish for AI.
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@Kantrowitz Good job there with the Judge. Not the process that matters, but the output, which is verifiable. Must be hard trying to get through all the others talking nonsense on TV ๐Ÿ˜‚
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RT @TechFundies: 3'd party contact leads tech practice on west coast for Accenture.

Supportive of ramp in AI proof-of-concepts w/ more success in IT / employee support desks followed by customer support.

Mentioned repeatedly that cost / AI query is a hurdle for adoption so supports view that decreasing cost will open up adoption / TAM.

Highlights
-Supports customers in communications, media, tech and fin svcs.

-Almost every customer is multi-cloud. Used to see AI workloads go to $GOOGL, enterprise to $MSFT and web/mobile to $AMZN. Now everything is landing everywhere.

-Customers focused on proof-of-concepts in 2024 mostly leveraging Azure / OpenAI. Saw uptick in usage of AMZN / GOOGL as well in 2H.

-At least 25% of these POCs moving into production in 2025.

-Saw very large uptick in software companies working on agentic solutions last qtr.

-One challenge for roll-outs has been that cost of AI is prohibitively expensive โ€“ lots of customer support volume adds up [Supportive of view that AI gets cheaper and opens up market].

-Low-hanging fruit has been IT and HR helpdesk support. Problem is tailor-made for GenAI.

-Can use $NOW Assist or build on your own by prompt engineering Azure OpenAI. If volumes very high and cost of $NOW expensive, somewhat better off attempting a homegrown solution. See 25-30% complete resolution of tickets.

-In IT / HR helpdesk, 100% agentic automation is happening w/ 30-35% of ticket volumes, copilot happening for 40% of tickets and rest is entirely humans.

-$CRM Agentforce also seeing POCs. Works well if you have medium ticket volume because pricing is very expensive. A customer issue that takes 3-5 conversations ends up costing $6-8 / ticket and is too high. Again, if volumes very high, then makes sense to try to prompt engineer on own. Expect 1/3 of POCs on employee help desk to convert to pilots.

-Have had reasonable success testing $CRM AgentForce for sales development rep โ€“ coaching, lead nurturing, follow-up all automated. Emerging area is marketing automation โ€“ campaign generation / execution across channels โ€“ not quite there yet and more of a copilot for now w/ human in the loop.

-On-premise builds are not easy. Fine tuning is expensive and requires totally different data center architecture focused on GPUs / cooling issues / etc. Better have a really good use case to pursue AI builds internally. Som of largest clients who are trying to do AI on-premise running into issues where their data centers simply arenโ€™t configured correctly.[ie just use cloud / packaged software]

-Starting to see ecosystem build abstraction so inference can go off $NVDA GPUs to $AMZN Inferentia or $AMD or whomever. Very little of this is in production.

-POCโ€™s are ramping quickly, conversion to production happening more slowly especially as customers move away from low-hanging fruit type use cases.
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10 months ago I shared my analysis on $MANH suggesting it was overvalued at $257๐Ÿ’ต

I suggested revisiting the stock at $179๐Ÿ’ต

Despite a strong run, $MANH just plummeted -23% post-Q4 earnings

As I stated in my analysis:

โ€œAs you can see, weโ€™d have to assume well above a 60x multiple in order for $MANH to have attractive return potential

While this could happen, this assumption leaves us with no margin of safety, especially considering that the multiple does not appear to be justified by the growth rate

In fact, in the last 10 years, $MANH multiple expanded by ~84% โ€” implying that multiple expansion has contributed heavily to its returns

While $MANH is a quality business that I hope to own at some point, I donโ€™t consider it anywhere near the buy zone today at $257.50๐Ÿ’ต

Instead, Iโ€™d start to get interested (*interested*) closer to 50x earnings or at $179๐Ÿ’ต โ€” 30% below todayโ€™s priceโ€

#stocks #investing

A sober valuation analysis on $MANH ๐Ÿง˜๐Ÿฝโ€โ™‚๏ธ

โ€ขNTM P/E Ratio: 70.66x
โ€ข5-Year Mean: 61.90x

โ€ขNTM FCF Yield: 1.63%
โ€ข5-Year Mean: 2.11%

As you can see, $MANH appears to be trading above fair value

Going forward, investors can receive ~12% LESS in earnings per share & ~23% LESS in FCF per share ๐Ÿง ***

Before we get into valuation, letโ€™s take a look at why $MANH is a quality business

BALANCE SHEETโœ…
โ€ขCash & Total Inv: $270.74M
โ€ขLong-Term Debt: $0

$MANH has a strong balance sheet

RETURN ON CAPITALโœ…
โ€ข2018: 91.0%
โ€ข2019: 66.3%
โ€ข2020: 46.2%
โ€ข2021: 49.1%
โ€ข2022: 63.4%
โ€ข2023: 69.4%

RETURN ON EQUITYโœ…
โ€ข2018: 65.0%
โ€ข2019: 59.3%
โ€ข2020: 48.3%
โ€ข2021: 47.1%
โ€ข2022: 54.0%
โ€ข2023: 69.9%

$MANH has solid return metrics, highlighting the financial efficiency of the business

REVENUESโœ…
โ€ข2013: $414.52M
โ€ข2023: $928.73M
โ€ขCAGR: 8.40%

FREE CASH FLOWโœ…
โ€ข2013: $84.65M
โ€ข2023: $241.49M
โ€ขCAGR: 11.05%

NORMALIZED EPSโœ…
โ€ข2013: $0.92
โ€ข2023: $3.74
โ€ขCAGR: 15.05%

SHARE BUYBACKSโœ…
โ€ข2014 Shares Outstanding: 75.84M
โ€ขLTM Shares Outstanding: 62.61M

By reducing its shares outstanding ~17.4%, $MANH increased its EPS by ~21.0% (assuming 0 growth)

MARGINSโœ…
โ€ขLTM Gross Margins: 53.6%
โ€ขLTM Operating Margins: 22.6%
โ€ขLTM Net Income Margins: 19.0%

***NOW TO VALUATION ๐Ÿง 

As stated above, investors can expect to receive ~12% LESS in EPS & ~23% LESS in FCF per share

Using Benjamin Grahamโ€™s 2G rule of thumb, $MANH has to grow earnings at a 35.33% CAGR over the next several years to justify its valuation

Today, analysts anticipate 2024 - 2026 EPS growth over the next few years to be less than the (35.33%) required growth rate:

2024E: $3.77 (0.7% YoY) *FY Dec
2025E: $4.36 (15.9% YoY)
2026E: $5.08 (16.4% YoY)

$MANH has a solid track record of meeting analyst estimates ~2 years out, but letโ€™s assume $MANH ends 2026 with $5.08 in EPS & see its CAGR potential assuming different multiples

60x P/E: $304.80๐Ÿ’ต โ€ฆ ~6.1% CAGR

57x P/E: $289.56๐Ÿ’ต โ€ฆ ~4.2% CAGR

54x P/E: $274.32๐Ÿ’ต โ€ฆ ~2.2% CAGR

As you can see, weโ€™d have to assume well above a 60x multiple in order for $MANH to have attractive return potential

While this could happen, this assumption leaves us with no margin of safety, especially considering that the multiple does not appear to be justified by the growth rate

In fact, in the last 10 years, $MANH multiple expanded by ~84% โ€” implying that multiple expansion has contributed heavily to its returns

While $MANH is a quality business that I hope to own at some point, I donโ€™t consider it anywhere near the buy zone today at $257.50๐Ÿ’ต

Instead, Iโ€™d start to get interested (*interested*) closer to 50x earnings or at $179๐Ÿ’ต โ€” 30% below todayโ€™s price

#stocks #investing
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๐ƒ๐ˆ๐’๐‚๐‹๐Ž๐’๐”๐‘๐„โ€ผ๏ธ: ๐“๐ก๐ข๐ฌ ๐ข๐ฌ ๐๐Ž๐“ ๐ˆ๐ง๐ฏ๐ž๐ฌ๐ญ๐ฆ๐ž๐ง๐ญ ๐€๐๐ฏ๐ข๐œ๐ž. ๐๐š๐›๐ฒ๐ฅ๐จ๐ง ๏ฟฝ[...]
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โ Dimitry Nakhla | Babylon Capitalยฎ 10 months ago I shared my analysis on $MANH suggesting it was overvalued at $257๐Ÿ’ต I suggested revisiting the stock at $179๐Ÿ’ต Despite a strong run, $MANH just plummeted -23% post-Q4 earnings As I stated in my analysis: โ€ฆ
๏ฟฝ๐š๐ฉ๐ข๐ญ๐š๐ฅยฎ ๐š๐ง๐ ๐ข๐ญ๐ฌ ๐ซ๐ž๐ฉ๐ซ๐ž๐ฌ๐ž๐ง๐ญ๐š๐ญ๐ข๐ฏ๐ž๐ฌ ๐ฆ๐š๐ฒ ๐ก๐š๐ฏ๐ž ๐ฉ๐จ๐ฌ๐ข๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง๐ฌ ๐ข๐ง ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐ฌ๐ž๐œ๐ฎ๐ซ๐ข๐ญ๐ข๐ž๐ฌ ๐๐ข๐ฌ๐œ๐ฎ๐ฌ๐ฌ๐ž๐ ๐ข๐ง ๐ญ๐ก๐ข๐ฌ ๐ญ๐ฐ๐ž๐ž๐ญ.

๐“๐ก๐ž ๐ข๐ง๐Ÿ๐จ๐ซ๐ฆ๐š๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง ๐œ๐จ๐ง๐ญ๐š๐ข๐ง๐ž๐ ๐ข๐ง ๐ญ๐ก๐ข๐ฌ ๐ญ๐ฐ๐ž๐ž๐ญ ๐ข๐ฌ ๐ข๐ง๐ญ๐ž๐ง๐๐ž๐ ๐Ÿ๐จ๐ซ ๐ข๐ง๐Ÿ๐จ๐ซ๐ฆ๐š๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง๐š๐ฅ ๐ฉ๐ฎ๐ซ๐ฉ๐จ๐ฌ๐ž๐ฌ ๐จ๐ง๐ฅ๐ฒ ๐š๐ง๐ ๐ฌ๐ก๐จ๐ฎ๐ฅ๐ ๐ง๐จ๐ญ ๐›๐ž ๐œ๐จ๐ง๐ฌ๐ญ๐ซ๐ฎ๐ž๐ ๐š๐ฌ ๐ข๐ง๐ฏ๐ž๐ฌ๐ญ๐ฆ๐ž๐ง๐ญ ๐š๐๐ฏ๐ข๐œ๐ž ๐ญ๐จ ๐ฆ๐ž๐ž๐ญ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐ฌ๐ฉ๐ž๐œ๐ข๐Ÿ๐ข๐œ ๐ง๐ž๐ž๐๐ฌ ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐š๐ง๐ฒ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ข๐ฏ๐ข๐๐ฎ๐š๐ฅ ๐จ๐ซ ๐ฌ๐ข๐ญ๐ฎ๐š๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง. ๐๐š๐ฌ๐ญ ๐ฉ๐ž๐ซ๐Ÿ๐จ๐ซ๐ฆ๐š๐ง๐œ๐ž ๐ข๐ฌ ๐ง๐จ ๐ ๐ฎ๐š๐ซ๐š๐ง๐ญ๐ž๐ž ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐Ÿ๐ฎ๐ญ๐ฎ๐ซ๐ž ๐ซ๐ž๐ฌ๐ฎ๐ฅ๐ญ๐ฌ.

๐ˆ๐ง๐Ÿ๐จ๐ซ๐ฆ๐š๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง ๐œ๐จ๐ง๐ญ๐š๐ข๐ง๐ž๐ ๐ข๐ง ๐ญ๐ก๐ข๐ฌ ๐ญ๐ฐ๐ž๐ž๐ญ ๐ก๐š๐ฌ ๐›๐ž๐ž๐ง ๐จ๐›๐ญ๐š๐ข๐ง๐ž๐ ๐Ÿ๐ซ๐จ๐ฆ ๐ฌ๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ๐œ๐ž๐ฌ ๐›๐ž๐ฅ๐ข๐ž๐ฏ๐ž๐ ๐ญ๐จ ๐›๐ž ๐ซ๐ž๐ฅ๐ข๐š๐›๐ฅ๐ž, ๐›๐ฎ๐ญ ๐ข๐ฌ ๐ง๐จ๐ญ ๐ ๐ฎ๐š๐ซ๐š๐ง๐ญ๐ž๐ž๐ ๐š๐ฌ ๐ญ๐จ ๐œ๐จ๐ฆ๐ฉ๐ฅ๐ž๐ญ๐ž๐ง๐ž๐ฌ๐ฌ ๐จ๐ซ ๐š๐œ๐œ๐ฎ๐ซ๐š๐œ๐ฒ. - Dimitry Nakhla | Babylon Capitalยฎ tweet
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โ Dimitry Nakhla | Babylon Capitalยฎ
10 months ago I shared my analysis on $MANH suggesting it was overvalued at $257๐Ÿ’ต

I suggested revisiting the stock at $179๐Ÿ’ต

Despite a strong run, $MANH just plummeted -23% post-Q4 earnings ๐Ÿ“‰

As I stated in my analysis:

โ€œAs you can see, weโ€™d have to assume well above a 60x multiple in order for $MANH to have attractive return potential

While this could happen, this assumption leaves us with no margin of safety, especially considering that the multiple does not appear to be justified by the growth rate

In fact, in the last 10 years, $MANH multiple expanded by ~84% โ€” implying that multiple expansion has contributed heavily to its returns

While $MANH is a quality business that I hope to own at some point, I donโ€™t consider it anywhere near the buy zone today at $257.50๐Ÿ’ต

Instead, Iโ€™d start to get interested (*interested*) closer to 50x earnings or at $179๐Ÿ’ต โ€” 30% below todayโ€™s priceโ€

#stocks #investing

A sober valuation analysis on $MANH ๐Ÿง˜๐Ÿฝโ€โ™‚๏ธ

โ€ขNTM P/E Ratio: 70.66x
โ€ข5-Year Mean: 61.90x

โ€ขNTM FCF Yield: 1.63%
โ€ข5-Year Mean: 2.11%

As you can see, $MANH appears to be trading above fair value

Going forward, investors can receive ~12% LESS in earnings per share & ~23% LESS in FCF per share ๐Ÿง ***

Before we get into valuation, letโ€™s take a look at why $MANH is a quality business

BALANCE SHEETโœ…
โ€ขCash & Total Inv: $270.74M
โ€ขLong-Term Debt: $0

$MANH has a strong balance sheet

RETURN ON CAPITALโœ…
โ€ข2018: 91.0%
โ€ข2019: 66.3%
โ€ข2020: 46.2%
โ€ข2021: 49.1%
โ€ข2022: 63.4%
โ€ข2023: 69.4%

RETURN ON EQUITYโœ…
โ€ข2018: 65.0%
โ€ข2019: 59.3%
โ€ข2020: 48.3%
โ€ข2021: 47.1%
โ€ข2022: 54.0%
โ€ข2023: 69.9%

$MANH has solid return metrics, highlighting the financial efficiency of the business

REVENUESโœ…
โ€ข2013: $414.52M
โ€ข2023: $928.73M
โ€ขCAGR: 8.40%

FREE CASH FLOWโœ…
โ€ข2013: $84.65M
โ€ข2023: $241.49M
โ€ขCAGR: 11.05%

NORMALIZED EPSโœ…
โ€ข2013: $0.92
โ€ข2023: $3.74
โ€ขCAGR: 15.05%

SHARE BUYBACKSโœ…
โ€ข2014 Shares Outstanding: 75.84M
โ€ขLTM Shares Outstanding: 62.61M

By reducing its shares outstanding ~17.4%, $MANH increased its EPS by ~21.0% (assuming 0 growth)

MARGINSโœ…
โ€ขLTM Gross Margins: 53.6%
โ€ขLTM Operating Margins: 22.6%
โ€ขLTM Net Income Margins: 19.0%

***NOW TO VALUATION ๐Ÿง 

As stated above, investors can expect to receive ~12% LESS in EPS & ~23% LESS in FCF per share

Using Benjamin Grahamโ€™s 2G rule of thumb, $MANH has to grow earnings at a 35.33% CAGR over the next several years to justify its valuation

Today, analysts anticipate 2024 - 2026 EPS growth over the next few years to be less than the (35.33%) required growth rate:

2024E: $3.77 (0.7% YoY) *FY Dec
2025E: $4.36 (15.9% YoY)
2026E: $5.08 (16.4% YoY)

$MANH has a solid track record of meeting analyst estimates ~2 years out, but letโ€™s assume $MANH ends 2026 with $5.08 in EPS & see its CAGR potential assuming different multiples

60x P/E: $304.80๐Ÿ’ต โ€ฆ ~6.1% CAGR

57x P/E: $289.56๐Ÿ’ต โ€ฆ ~4.2% CAGR

54x P/E: $274.32๐Ÿ’ต โ€ฆ ~2.2% CAGR

As you can see, weโ€™d have to assume well above a 60x multiple in order for $MANH to have attractive return potential

While this could happen, this assumption leaves us with no margin of safety, especially considering that the multiple does not appear to be justified by the growth rate

In fact, in the last 10 years, $MANH multiple expanded by ~84% โ€” implying that multiple expansion has contributed heavily to its returns

While $MANH is a quality business that I hope to own at some point, I donโ€™t consider it anywhere near the buy zone today at $257.50๐Ÿ’ต

Instead, Iโ€™d start to get interested (*interested*) closer to 50x earnings or at $179๐Ÿ’ต โ€” 30% below todayโ€™s price

#stocks #investing
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๐ƒ๐ˆ๐’๐‚๐‹๐Ž๐’๐”๐‘๐„โ€ผ๏ธ: ๐“๐ก๐ข๐ฌ ๐ข๐ฌ ๐๐Ž๐“ ๐ˆ๐ง๐ฏ๐ž๐ฌ๐ญ๐ฆ๐ž๐ง๐ญ ๐€๐๐ฏ๐ข๐œ๐ž. ๐๐š๐›๐ฒ๐ฅ๐จ๏ฟฝ[...]
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โ Dimitry Nakhla | Babylon Capitalยฎ 10 months ago I shared my analysis on $MANH suggesting it was overvalued at $257๐Ÿ’ต I suggested revisiting the stock at $179๐Ÿ’ต Despite a strong run, $MANH just plummeted -23% post-Q4 earnings ๐Ÿ“‰ As I stated in my analysis:โ€ฆ
๏ฟฝ ๐‚๐š๐ฉ๐ข๐ญ๐š๐ฅยฎ ๐š๐ง๐ ๐ข๐ญ๐ฌ ๐ซ๐ž๐ฉ๐ซ๐ž๐ฌ๐ž๐ง๐ญ๐š๐ญ๐ข๐ฏ๐ž๐ฌ ๐ฆ๐š๐ฒ ๐ก๐š๐ฏ๐ž ๐ฉ๐จ๐ฌ๐ข๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง๐ฌ ๐ข๐ง ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐ฌ๐ž๐œ๐ฎ๐ซ๐ข๐ญ๐ข๐ž๐ฌ ๐๐ข๐ฌ๐œ๐ฎ๐ฌ๐ฌ๐ž๐ ๐ข๐ง ๐ญ๐ก๐ข๐ฌ ๐ญ๐ฐ๐ž๐ž๐ญ.

๐“๐ก๐ž ๐ข๐ง๐Ÿ๐จ๐ซ๐ฆ๐š๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง ๐œ๐จ๐ง๐ญ๐š๐ข๐ง๐ž๐ ๐ข๐ง ๐ญ๐ก๐ข๐ฌ ๐ญ๐ฐ๐ž๐ž๐ญ ๐ข๐ฌ ๐ข๐ง๐ญ๐ž๐ง๐๐ž๐ ๐Ÿ๐จ๐ซ ๐ข๐ง๐Ÿ๐จ๐ซ๐ฆ๐š๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง๐š๐ฅ ๐ฉ๐ฎ๐ซ๐ฉ๐จ๐ฌ๐ž๐ฌ ๐จ๐ง๐ฅ๐ฒ ๐š๐ง๐ ๐ฌ๐ก๐จ๐ฎ๐ฅ๐ ๐ง๐จ๐ญ ๐›๐ž ๐œ๐จ๐ง๐ฌ๐ญ๐ซ๐ฎ๐ž๐ ๐š๐ฌ ๐ข๐ง๐ฏ๐ž๐ฌ๐ญ๐ฆ๐ž๐ง๐ญ ๐š๐๐ฏ๐ข๐œ๐ž ๐ญ๐จ ๐ฆ๐ž๐ž๐ญ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐ฌ๐ฉ๐ž๐œ๐ข๐Ÿ๐ข๐œ ๐ง๐ž๐ž๐๐ฌ ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐š๐ง๐ฒ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ข๐ฏ๐ข๐๐ฎ๐š๐ฅ ๐จ๐ซ ๐ฌ๐ข๐ญ๐ฎ๐š๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง. ๐๐š๐ฌ๐ญ ๐ฉ๐ž๐ซ๐Ÿ๐จ๐ซ๐ฆ๐š๐ง๐œ๐ž ๐ข๐ฌ ๐ง๐จ ๐ ๐ฎ๐š๐ซ๐š๐ง๐ญ๐ž๐ž ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐Ÿ๐ฎ๐ญ๐ฎ๐ซ๐ž ๐ซ๐ž๐ฌ๐ฎ๐ฅ๐ญ๐ฌ.

๐ˆ๐ง๐Ÿ๐จ๐ซ๐ฆ๐š๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง ๐œ๐จ๐ง๐ญ๐š๐ข๐ง๐ž๐ ๐ข๐ง ๐ญ๐ก๐ข๐ฌ ๐ญ๐ฐ๐ž๐ž๐ญ ๐ก๐š๐ฌ ๐›๐ž๐ž๐ง ๐จ๐›๐ญ๐š๐ข๐ง๐ž๐ ๐Ÿ๐ซ๐จ๐ฆ ๐ฌ๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ๐œ๐ž๐ฌ ๐›๐ž๐ฅ๐ข๐ž๐ฏ๐ž๐ ๐ญ๐จ ๐›๐ž ๐ซ๐ž๐ฅ๐ข๐š๐›๐ฅ๐ž, ๐›๐ฎ๐ญ ๐ข๐ฌ ๐ง๐จ๐ญ ๐ ๐ฎ๐š๐ซ๐š๐ง๐ญ๐ž๐ž๐ ๐š๐ฌ ๐ญ๐จ ๐œ๐จ๐ฆ๐ฉ๐ฅ๐ž๐ญ๐ž๐ง๐ž๐ฌ๐ฌ ๐จ๐ซ ๐š๐œ๐œ๐ฎ๐ซ๐š๐œ๐ฒ. - Dimitry Nakhla | Babylon Capitalยฎ tweet
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โ Dimitry Nakhla | Babylon Capitalยฎ
This weekโ€™s reading material ๐Ÿ“–

โ€œInformed by successful, evolutionary strategies, Prasad outlines his counterintuitive principles for a long-term gain.

He provides three mantras of investing:

1. Avoid big risks;
2. Buy high-quality at a fair price;
3. And be very lazy.โ€ https://t.co/zxVkLjgojl
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๐Ÿ’Š $MRK Merck Boosts Buyback & Declares Q2 2025 Dividend!

๐Ÿ”น Adds $10 Billion to its stock repurchase plan (4% of its $246.5B market cap) ๐Ÿ“ˆ
๐Ÿ”น No expiration date, follows a similar 2018 $10 billion buyback boost
๐Ÿ”น $2.9B still available under prior programs
๐Ÿ”น 2024: Repurchased $817 million (7 million shares) of its common stock under the prior program till September
๐Ÿ”น2023: $8.8B returned to shareholders ($7.4B dividends, $1.3B buybacks) โ€“ leaning more on dividends than repurchases๐Ÿ’ฐ

https://t.co/jbgkKGyk1U
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