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โ Dimitry Nakhla | Babylon Capitalยฎ
A sober valuation analysis on $VEEV ๐ง๐ฝโโ๏ธ
โขNTM P/E Ratio: 36.18x
โข1-Year Mean: 33.74x
โขNTM FCF Yield: 3.00%
โข1-Year Mean: 3.28%
As you can see, $VEEV appears to be trading near fair value
Going forward, investors can receive ~7% LESS in earnings per share & ~8% LESS in FCF per share ๐ง ***
Before we get into valuation, letโs take a look at why $VEEV is a great business
BALANCE SHEETโ
โขCash & Short-Term Inv: $4.89B
โขLong-Term Debt: $0
$VEEV has a great balance sheet) & an 18x FFO Interest Coverage
RETURN ON CAPITALโ / ๐
โข2019: 17.9%
โข2020: 16.6%
โข2021: 16.2%
โข2022: 17.0%
โข2023: 12.1%
โข2024: 9.1%
โขLTM: 11.3%
RETURN ON EQUITYโ
โข2019: 21.4%
โข2020: 20.7%
โข2021: 19.3%
โข2022: 16.5%
โข2023: 14.7%
โข2024: 12.6%
โขLTM: 13.2%
$VEEV has decent return metrics, highlighting the financial efficiency of the business
REVENUESโ
โข2019: $0.86B
โข2024: $2.36B
โขCAGR: 22.37%
FREE CASH FLOWโ
โข2019: $301.01M
โข2024: $885.14M
โขCAGR: 24.07%
NORMALIZED EPSโ
โข2019: $1.63
โข2024: $4.84
โขCAGR: 24.31%
SHARE BUYBACKSโ
โข2019 Shares Outstanding: 156.12M
โขLTM Shares Outstanding: 164.24M
MARGINSโ
โขLTM Gross Margins: 73.4%
โขLTM Operating Margins: 22.9%
โขLTM Net Income Margins: 23.9%
***NOW TO VALUATION ๐ง
As stated above, investors can expect to receive ~7% LESS in EPS & ~8% LESS in FCF per share
Using Benjamin Grahamโs 2G rule of thumb, $VEEV has to grow earnings at an 18.09% CAGR over the next several years to justify its valuation
Today, analysts anticipate 2026 - 2027 EPS growth over the next few years to be less than the (18.09%) required growth rate:
2025E: $6.24 (28.9% YoY) *FY Jan 2025
2026E: $6.82 (9.3% YoY)
2027E: $7.57 (11.0% YoY)
$VEEV has an excellent track record of meeting analyst estimates ~2 years out, so letโs assume $VEEV ends 2027 with $7.57 in EPS & see its CAGR potential assuming different multiples
38x P/E: $287.66๐ต โฆ ~9.9% CAGR
36x P/E: $272.52๐ต โฆ ~7.3% CAGR
34x P/E: $257.38๐ต โฆ ~4.5% CAGR
32x P/E: $242.24๐ต โฆ ~1.7% CAGR
As you can see, $VEEV appears to have attractive return potential IF we assume >38x earnings (a multiple not justified by its growth rate)
From 2016 - 2024, $VEEV delivered impressive EPS growth, with a 32.48% CAGR โฆ this is why it made sense for the businesses to trade for 40x - 60x during those years
As weโve recently seen, $VEEV has been re-rated (due to slowing growth) and it is still trading for a demanding valuation today
Today at $233๐ต $VEEV does not appear to be a good consideration for investment
Iโd start to get interested in $VEEV closer to $180๐ต (23% below todayโs price) where I can reasonably expect ~11% CAGR while assuming a 30x end multiple, ensuring some margin of safety
#stocks #investing
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๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐โผ๏ธ: ๐๐ก๐ข๐ฌ ๐ข๐ฌ ๐๐๐ ๐๐ง๐ฏ๐๐ฌ๐ญ๐ฆ๐๐ง๐ญ ๐๐๐ฏ๐ข๐๐. ๐๐๐๐ฒ๐ฅ๐จ๐ง ๐๐๐ฉ๐ข๐ญ๐๐ฅยฎ ๐๐ง๐ ๐ข๐ญ๐ฌ ๐ซ๐๐ฉ๐ซ๐๐ฌ๐๐ง๐ญ๐๐ญ๐ข๐ฏ๐๐ฌ ๐ฆ๐๐ฒ ๐ก๐๐ฏ๐ ๐ฉ๐จ๐ฌ๐ข๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง๐ฌ ๐ข๐ง ๐ญ๐ก๐ ๐ฌ๐๐๐ฎ๐ซ๐ข๐ญ๐ข๐๐ฌ ๐๐ข๐ฌ๐๐ฎ๐ฌ๐ฌ๐๐ ๐ข๐ง ๐ญ๐ก๐ข๐ฌ ๐ญ๐ฐ๐๐๐ญ.
๐๐ก๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐จ๐ซ๐ฆ๐๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง ๐๐จ๐ง๐ญ๐๐ข๐ง๐๐ ๐ข๐ง ๐ญ๐ก๐ข๐ฌ ๐ญ๐ฐ๐๐๐ญ ๐ข๐ฌ ๐ข๐ง๐ญ๐๐ง๐๐๐ ๐๐จ๐ซ ๐ข๐ง๐๐จ๐ซ๐ฆ๐๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง๐๐ฅ ๐ฉ๐ฎ๐ซ๐ฉ๐จ๐ฌ๐๐ฌ ๐จ๐ง๐ฅ๐ฒ ๐๐ง๐ ๐ฌ๐ก๐จ๐ฎ๐ฅ๐ ๐ง๐จ๐ญ ๐๐ ๐๐จ๐ง๐ฌ๐ญ๐ซ๐ฎ๐๐ ๐๐ฌ ๐ข๐ง๐ฏ๐๐ฌ๐ญ๐ฆ๐๐ง๐ญ ๐๐๐ฏ๐ข๐๐ ๐ญ๐จ ๐ฆ๐๐๐ญ ๐ญ๐ก๐ ๐ฌ๐ฉ๐๐๐ข๐๐ข๐ ๐ง๐๐๐๐ฌ ๐จ๐ ๐๐ง๐ฒ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ข๐ฏ๐ข๐๐ฎ๐๐ฅ ๐จ๐ซ ๐ฌ๐ข๐ญ๐ฎ๐๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง. ๐๐๐ฌ๐ญ ๐ฉ๐๐ซ๐๐จ๐ซ๐ฆ๐๐ง๐๐ ๐ข๐ฌ ๐ง๐จ ๐ ๐ฎ๐๐ซ๐๐ง๐ญ๐๐ ๐จ๐ ๐๐ฎ๐ญ๐ฎ๐ซ๐ ๐ซ๐๐ฌ๐ฎ๐ฅ๐ญ๐ฌ.
๐๐ง๐๐จ๐ซ๐ฆ๐๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง ๐๐จ๐ง๐ญ๐๐ข๐ง๐๐ ๐ข๐ง ๐ญ๐ก๐ข๐ฌ ๐ญ๐ฐ๐๐๐ญ ๐ก๐๐ฌ ๐๐๐๐ง ๐จ๐๐ญ๐๐ข๐ง๐๐ ๐๐ซ๐จ๐ฆ ๐ฌ๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ๐๐๐ฌ ๐๐๐ฅ๐ข๐๐ฏ๐๐ ๐ญ๐จ ๐๐ ๐ซ๐๐ฅ๐ข๐๐๐ฅ๐, ๐๐ฎ๐ญ ๐ข๐ฌ ๐ง๐จ๐ญ ๐ ๐ฎ๐๐ซ๐๐ง๐ญ๐๐๐ ๐๐ฌ ๐ญ๐จ ๐๐จ๐ฆ๐ฉ๐ฅ๐๐ญ๐๐ง๐๐ฌ๐ฌ ๐จ๐ซ ๐๐๐๐ฎ๐ซ๐๐๐ฒ.
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A sober valuation analysis on $VEEV ๐ง๐ฝโโ๏ธ
โขNTM P/E Ratio: 36.18x
โข1-Year Mean: 33.74x
โขNTM FCF Yield: 3.00%
โข1-Year Mean: 3.28%
As you can see, $VEEV appears to be trading near fair value
Going forward, investors can receive ~7% LESS in earnings per share & ~8% LESS in FCF per share ๐ง ***
Before we get into valuation, letโs take a look at why $VEEV is a great business
BALANCE SHEETโ
โขCash & Short-Term Inv: $4.89B
โขLong-Term Debt: $0
$VEEV has a great balance sheet) & an 18x FFO Interest Coverage
RETURN ON CAPITALโ / ๐
โข2019: 17.9%
โข2020: 16.6%
โข2021: 16.2%
โข2022: 17.0%
โข2023: 12.1%
โข2024: 9.1%
โขLTM: 11.3%
RETURN ON EQUITYโ
โข2019: 21.4%
โข2020: 20.7%
โข2021: 19.3%
โข2022: 16.5%
โข2023: 14.7%
โข2024: 12.6%
โขLTM: 13.2%
$VEEV has decent return metrics, highlighting the financial efficiency of the business
REVENUESโ
โข2019: $0.86B
โข2024: $2.36B
โขCAGR: 22.37%
FREE CASH FLOWโ
โข2019: $301.01M
โข2024: $885.14M
โขCAGR: 24.07%
NORMALIZED EPSโ
โข2019: $1.63
โข2024: $4.84
โขCAGR: 24.31%
SHARE BUYBACKSโ
โข2019 Shares Outstanding: 156.12M
โขLTM Shares Outstanding: 164.24M
MARGINSโ
โขLTM Gross Margins: 73.4%
โขLTM Operating Margins: 22.9%
โขLTM Net Income Margins: 23.9%
***NOW TO VALUATION ๐ง
As stated above, investors can expect to receive ~7% LESS in EPS & ~8% LESS in FCF per share
Using Benjamin Grahamโs 2G rule of thumb, $VEEV has to grow earnings at an 18.09% CAGR over the next several years to justify its valuation
Today, analysts anticipate 2026 - 2027 EPS growth over the next few years to be less than the (18.09%) required growth rate:
2025E: $6.24 (28.9% YoY) *FY Jan 2025
2026E: $6.82 (9.3% YoY)
2027E: $7.57 (11.0% YoY)
$VEEV has an excellent track record of meeting analyst estimates ~2 years out, so letโs assume $VEEV ends 2027 with $7.57 in EPS & see its CAGR potential assuming different multiples
38x P/E: $287.66๐ต โฆ ~9.9% CAGR
36x P/E: $272.52๐ต โฆ ~7.3% CAGR
34x P/E: $257.38๐ต โฆ ~4.5% CAGR
32x P/E: $242.24๐ต โฆ ~1.7% CAGR
As you can see, $VEEV appears to have attractive return potential IF we assume >38x earnings (a multiple not justified by its growth rate)
From 2016 - 2024, $VEEV delivered impressive EPS growth, with a 32.48% CAGR โฆ this is why it made sense for the businesses to trade for 40x - 60x during those years
As weโve recently seen, $VEEV has been re-rated (due to slowing growth) and it is still trading for a demanding valuation today
Today at $233๐ต $VEEV does not appear to be a good consideration for investment
Iโd start to get interested in $VEEV closer to $180๐ต (23% below todayโs price) where I can reasonably expect ~11% CAGR while assuming a 30x end multiple, ensuring some margin of safety
#stocks #investing
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๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐โผ๏ธ: ๐๐ก๐ข๐ฌ ๐ข๐ฌ ๐๐๐ ๐๐ง๐ฏ๐๐ฌ๐ญ๐ฆ๐๐ง๐ญ ๐๐๐ฏ๐ข๐๐. ๐๐๐๐ฒ๐ฅ๐จ๐ง ๐๐๐ฉ๐ข๐ญ๐๐ฅยฎ ๐๐ง๐ ๐ข๐ญ๐ฌ ๐ซ๐๐ฉ๐ซ๐๐ฌ๐๐ง๐ญ๐๐ญ๐ข๐ฏ๐๐ฌ ๐ฆ๐๐ฒ ๐ก๐๐ฏ๐ ๐ฉ๐จ๐ฌ๐ข๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง๐ฌ ๐ข๐ง ๐ญ๐ก๐ ๐ฌ๐๐๐ฎ๐ซ๐ข๐ญ๐ข๐๐ฌ ๐๐ข๐ฌ๐๐ฎ๐ฌ๐ฌ๐๐ ๐ข๐ง ๐ญ๐ก๐ข๐ฌ ๐ญ๐ฐ๐๐๐ญ.
๐๐ก๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐จ๐ซ๐ฆ๐๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง ๐๐จ๐ง๐ญ๐๐ข๐ง๐๐ ๐ข๐ง ๐ญ๐ก๐ข๐ฌ ๐ญ๐ฐ๐๐๐ญ ๐ข๐ฌ ๐ข๐ง๐ญ๐๐ง๐๐๐ ๐๐จ๐ซ ๐ข๐ง๐๐จ๐ซ๐ฆ๐๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง๐๐ฅ ๐ฉ๐ฎ๐ซ๐ฉ๐จ๐ฌ๐๐ฌ ๐จ๐ง๐ฅ๐ฒ ๐๐ง๐ ๐ฌ๐ก๐จ๐ฎ๐ฅ๐ ๐ง๐จ๐ญ ๐๐ ๐๐จ๐ง๐ฌ๐ญ๐ซ๐ฎ๐๐ ๐๐ฌ ๐ข๐ง๐ฏ๐๐ฌ๐ญ๐ฆ๐๐ง๐ญ ๐๐๐ฏ๐ข๐๐ ๐ญ๐จ ๐ฆ๐๐๐ญ ๐ญ๐ก๐ ๐ฌ๐ฉ๐๐๐ข๐๐ข๐ ๐ง๐๐๐๐ฌ ๐จ๐ ๐๐ง๐ฒ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ข๐ฏ๐ข๐๐ฎ๐๐ฅ ๐จ๐ซ ๐ฌ๐ข๐ญ๐ฎ๐๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง. ๐๐๐ฌ๐ญ ๐ฉ๐๐ซ๐๐จ๐ซ๐ฆ๐๐ง๐๐ ๐ข๐ฌ ๐ง๐จ ๐ ๐ฎ๐๐ซ๐๐ง๐ญ๐๐ ๐จ๐ ๐๐ฎ๐ญ๐ฎ๐ซ๐ ๐ซ๐๐ฌ๐ฎ๐ฅ๐ญ๐ฌ.
๐๐ง๐๐จ๐ซ๐ฆ๐๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง ๐๐จ๐ง๐ญ๐๐ข๐ง๐๐ ๐ข๐ง ๐ญ๐ก๐ข๐ฌ ๐ญ๐ฐ๐๐๐ญ ๐ก๐๐ฌ ๐๐๐๐ง ๐จ๐๐ญ๐๐ข๐ง๐๐ ๐๐ซ๐จ๐ฆ ๐ฌ๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ๐๐๐ฌ ๐๐๐ฅ๐ข๐๐ฏ๐๐ ๐ญ๐จ ๐๐ ๐ซ๐๐ฅ๐ข๐๐๐ฅ๐, ๐๐ฎ๐ญ ๐ข๐ฌ ๐ง๐จ๐ญ ๐ ๐ฎ๐๐ซ๐๐ง๐ญ๐๐๐ ๐๐ฌ ๐ญ๐จ ๐๐จ๐ฆ๐ฉ๐ฅ๐๐ญ๐๐ง๐๐ฌ๐ฌ ๐จ๐ซ ๐๐๐๐ฎ๐ซ๐๐๐ฒ.
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โI guess when this happens โฆ โ $SMCI ๐๐
#stocks #investing https://t.co/RSalrvNmKt
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โI guess when this happens โฆ โ $SMCI ๐๐
#stocks #investing https://t.co/RSalrvNmKt
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RT @InsiderRadar: $OSCR is up 13% at open, an immediate response to this insider buy
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RT @InsiderRadar: $OSCR is up 13% at open, an immediate response to this insider buy
๐จ JUST IN: Massive New Insider Purchase
Joshua Kushner, a co-founder at $OSCR, just reported the purchase of ~$14.4M of the company's stock.
Kushner is also the founder of Thrive Capital, and is the brother of Jared Kushner (Donald Trump's son-in-law and fmr. advisor). https://t.co/uGiDd53OTZ - Insider Radartweet
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โ Quiver Quantitative
ANOTHER politician just disclosed a purchase of Tesla stock, made before the election.
Representative Morgan McGarvey just revealed that he bought up to $15K on October 25th.
$TSLA has now risen 22% since then. https://t.co/Syy8e6EAZU
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ANOTHER politician just disclosed a purchase of Tesla stock, made before the election.
Representative Morgan McGarvey just revealed that he bought up to $15K on October 25th.
$TSLA has now risen 22% since then. https://t.co/Syy8e6EAZU
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โ App Economy Insights
$DIS Disney Q4 FY24 (ending in Sept):
โข Revenue +6% Y/Y to $22.6B ($80M beat).
โข Non-GAAP EPS $1.14 ($0.03 beat).
Segment operating margin:
๐ฟ Entertainment: 10% (+7pp Y/Y).
๐ Sports: 24% (-1pp Y/Y).
๐ฐ Experience: 20% (-2pp Y/Y).
FY25 EPS growth high single digit. https://t.co/hBi5LU2Jx1
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$DIS Disney Q4 FY24 (ending in Sept):
โข Revenue +6% Y/Y to $22.6B ($80M beat).
โข Non-GAAP EPS $1.14 ($0.03 beat).
Segment operating margin:
๐ฟ Entertainment: 10% (+7pp Y/Y).
๐ Sports: 24% (-1pp Y/Y).
๐ฐ Experience: 20% (-2pp Y/Y).
FY25 EPS growth high single digit. https://t.co/hBi5LU2Jx1
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โ Stock Analysis Compilation
Maran Partners on Clarus $CLAR US
Thesis: With a large cash balance, zero debt, and undervalued strong brands, Clarus presents an asymmetric investment opportunity, trading at a deep discount despite significant hidden private market value
(Extract from their Q3 letter) https://t.co/0U2QO7iWbz
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Maran Partners on Clarus $CLAR US
Thesis: With a large cash balance, zero debt, and undervalued strong brands, Clarus presents an asymmetric investment opportunity, trading at a deep discount despite significant hidden private market value
(Extract from their Q3 letter) https://t.co/0U2QO7iWbz
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โ Startup Archive
Mark Zuckerberg: โYou canโt 80/20 everythingโ
When Facebook first launched, a userโs profile included things like the dorm they lived in and the courses they were taking.
Paul Graham asks Mark if he thinks Facebook wouldโve worked without these features, to which Mark replies:
โI remember this early debate that Dustin [Moskovitz] and I had where we had to do some manual work for every school that we released Facebook at. To do that, we went through and parsed the course catalogs at the schools to make sure that the data was clean.โ
Dustin argued that it would be easier to launch new schools if they didnโt parse these catalogs, while Mark thought this would be an unacceptable drop in quality.
โWe just had this really long debate about what quality meant for us and the community that we wanted to establish and the culture. In retrospect, maybe it wouldnโt have made a huge difference in how things played out. But it definitely set this tone where thereโs a lot of clean data on Facebook, you can rely on it, it feels like a college-specific thingโwhich was valuable early on for setting the culture.โ
Mark then offers the following advice to the YC Startup School audience:
โIn the projects you work on, you will have a lot of similar questions. Thereโs the famous 80/20 rule where you get 80% of the benefit by doing 20% of the work, but you canโt just 80/20 everything. There have to be certain things that you are just the best at and that you go way further than anyone else on to establish this quality bar and have your product be the best thing thatโs out there.โ
Video source: @ycombinator (2012)
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Mark Zuckerberg: โYou canโt 80/20 everythingโ
When Facebook first launched, a userโs profile included things like the dorm they lived in and the courses they were taking.
Paul Graham asks Mark if he thinks Facebook wouldโve worked without these features, to which Mark replies:
โI remember this early debate that Dustin [Moskovitz] and I had where we had to do some manual work for every school that we released Facebook at. To do that, we went through and parsed the course catalogs at the schools to make sure that the data was clean.โ
Dustin argued that it would be easier to launch new schools if they didnโt parse these catalogs, while Mark thought this would be an unacceptable drop in quality.
โWe just had this really long debate about what quality meant for us and the community that we wanted to establish and the culture. In retrospect, maybe it wouldnโt have made a huge difference in how things played out. But it definitely set this tone where thereโs a lot of clean data on Facebook, you can rely on it, it feels like a college-specific thingโwhich was valuable early on for setting the culture.โ
Mark then offers the following advice to the YC Startup School audience:
โIn the projects you work on, you will have a lot of similar questions. Thereโs the famous 80/20 rule where you get 80% of the benefit by doing 20% of the work, but you canโt just 80/20 everything. There have to be certain things that you are just the best at and that you go way further than anyone else on to establish this quality bar and have your product be the best thing thatโs out there.โ
Video source: @ycombinator (2012)
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