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How to Hustle Your Way Into a Deal: Pokemon Go Edition
Earlier this month, Pokemon Go-maker @NianticLabs sold its games division to @scopely for $3.5B. ๐ฐ
@cyantist was one of the only angel investors in Niantic, and the story of how she got into the deal is WILD! ๐คฏ
She broke it down on E220 of the All-In Podcast:
-- Before Pokemon Go, Niantic had a game called Ingress
-- Ingress, like Pokemon Go, relied on AR and GPS to allow players to interact with the real world
-- Cyan started playing Ingress with her friends and noticed them doing weird stuff to advance in the game, like chartering helicopters and traveling all over
-- "I was like, why are these people spending so much time? And not only that, but why are they going around taking pictures of points of interest for Google? Like what is Google actually doing with this asset was my number one question."
-- "So I realized that Ingress was part of a bigger mapping plan."
-- "I went around telling everybody, 'If I had a chance to invest in anything, it would be Niantic.'"
-- At the time, Niantic was still part of Google
-- When Niantic spun out in late 2015, Cyan had no contacts at Google to hit up about an investment
-- Eventually, she connected with Niantic founder John Hanke through one of her portfolio founders
-- Then, she showed up to Niantic's office with "two badass engineers who were players"
-- "I figured I gotta show up with some value here."
-- "We sat on the front stairs and said, 'Please take our money.' He's like, 'I don't need you. I've got Nintendo, I've got Google.'"
-- "And we're like, 'No, you really need us.'"
-- Eventually, John Hanke took her investment, gave one of the engineers a job offer, and it all worked out!
That's how you hustle your way into a dream startup! ๐ช
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How to Hustle Your Way Into a Deal: Pokemon Go Edition
Earlier this month, Pokemon Go-maker @NianticLabs sold its games division to @scopely for $3.5B. ๐ฐ
@cyantist was one of the only angel investors in Niantic, and the story of how she got into the deal is WILD! ๐คฏ
She broke it down on E220 of the All-In Podcast:
-- Before Pokemon Go, Niantic had a game called Ingress
-- Ingress, like Pokemon Go, relied on AR and GPS to allow players to interact with the real world
-- Cyan started playing Ingress with her friends and noticed them doing weird stuff to advance in the game, like chartering helicopters and traveling all over
-- "I was like, why are these people spending so much time? And not only that, but why are they going around taking pictures of points of interest for Google? Like what is Google actually doing with this asset was my number one question."
-- "So I realized that Ingress was part of a bigger mapping plan."
-- "I went around telling everybody, 'If I had a chance to invest in anything, it would be Niantic.'"
-- At the time, Niantic was still part of Google
-- When Niantic spun out in late 2015, Cyan had no contacts at Google to hit up about an investment
-- Eventually, she connected with Niantic founder John Hanke through one of her portfolio founders
-- Then, she showed up to Niantic's office with "two badass engineers who were players"
-- "I figured I gotta show up with some value here."
-- "We sat on the front stairs and said, 'Please take our money.' He's like, 'I don't need you. I've got Nintendo, I've got Google.'"
-- "And we're like, 'No, you really need us.'"
-- Eventually, John Hanke took her investment, gave one of the engineers a job offer, and it all worked out!
That's how you hustle your way into a dream startup! ๐ช
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Futures are deep green ahead of another busy week in the markets.
Itโs officially the last full trading week of Q1 2025. https://t.co/Z8eGCf005e
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Futures are deep green ahead of another busy week in the markets.
Itโs officially the last full trading week of Q1 2025. https://t.co/Z8eGCf005e
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Retail traders have bought a net $8 BILLION of Tesla stock, $TSLA, in 2 weeks.
There has never been a 2-week inflow even HALF as large.
Retail is calling a bottom in Tesla. https://t.co/noBqvqK3uy
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Retail traders have bought a net $8 BILLION of Tesla stock, $TSLA, in 2 weeks.
There has never been a 2-week inflow even HALF as large.
Retail is calling a bottom in Tesla. https://t.co/noBqvqK3uy
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If you ever doubt why Warren Buffett is the greatest of all time.
The approx excess returns versus the S&P of top investors https://t.co/XpqQ4BXw8e
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If you ever doubt why Warren Buffett is the greatest of all time.
The approx excess returns versus the S&P of top investors https://t.co/XpqQ4BXw8e
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โ Dimitry Nakhla | Babylon Capitalยฎ
A quality valuation analysis on $AMZN ๐ง๐ฝโโ๏ธ
โขNTM P/OCF Ratio: 14.53x
โข5-Year Mean: 22.57x
โขNTM FCF Yield: 2.43%
โข5-Year Mean: 2.70%
As you can see, $AMZN appears to be slightly undervalued using P/OCF
Going forward, investors can expect to receive ~55% MORE in operating cash flow & ~10% LESS in FCF per share๐ง ***
Before we get into valuation, letโs take a look at why $AMZN is a quality business
BALANCE SHEETโ
โขCash & Equivalents: $101.20B
โขLong-Term Debt: $59.72B
$AMZN has an excellent balance sheet, an AA S&P Credit Rating & 48x FFO Interest Coverage Ratio
RETURN ON CAPITAL๐ / โ
โข2020: 11.6%
โข2021: 8.9%
โข2022: 4.2%
โข2023: 10.1%
โข2024: 15.5%
RETURN ON EQUITYโ
โข2020: 27.4%
โข2021: 28.8%
โข2022: (1.9%)
โข2023: 17.5%
โข2024: 24.3%
$AMZN has solid return metrics, highlighting the financial efficiency of the business
REVENUESโ
โข2019: $280.52B
โข2024: $637.96B
โขCAGR: 17.85%
FREE CASH FLOWโ
โข2019: $21.65B
โข2024: $38.22B
โขCAGR: 12.03%
NORMALIZED EPSโ
โข2019: $1.15
โข2024: $5.53
โขCAGR: 36.90%
SHARE BUYBACKSโ
โข2019 Shares Outstanding: 10.08B
โขLTM Shares Outstanding: 10.72B
MARGINS๐โก๏ธโ
โขLTM Gross Margins: 48.9%
โขLTM Operating Margins: 10.8%
โขLTM Net Income Margins: 9.3%
*Important for $AMZN to continue expanding margins & increase profitability
***NOW TO VALUATION ๐ง
As stated above, investors can expect to receive ~55% MORE in OCF & ~10% LESS in FCF per share
We're using P/OCF instead of P/E. Historical data reveals a stronger correlation between AMZN's share price and Operating Cash Flow (OCF)
Today, analysts anticipate aggressive OCF (per share) growth between 2025 - 2027:
2025E: $13.50 (25% YoY) *FY Dec
2026E: $16.77 (24% YoY)
2027E: $19.46 (16% YoY)
$AMZN has a decent track record of meeting analyst estimates ~2 years out, so letโs assume $AMZN ends 2027 with $19.46 in OCF per share & see its CAGR potential assuming different multiples (photos attached below also include these CAGR estimates):
18x P/OCF: $350.28๐ต โฆ ~23.2% CAGR
17x P/OCF: $330.82๐ต โฆ ~20.6% CAGR
16x P/OCF: $311.36๐ต โฆ ~18.1% CAGR
15x P/OCF: $291.88๐ต โฆ ~15.3% CAGR
14x P/OCF: $272.44๐ต โฆ ~12.5% CAGR
As you can see, $AMZN appears to have aggressive double-digit CAGR potential if we assume ~15x P/OCF, a multiple less than what itโs trading for today (a multiple it hasnโt traded for since 2010) & a multiple thatโs justified given its growth rate
Also check out $AMZN FCF growth estimates ๐
2025E: $50.46B (32% YoY)
2026E: $74.06B (47% YoY)
2027E: $108.96B (47% YoY)
AWS & Amazon Ads will continue to drive growth & profitability. In $AMZN FY 2024:
โ๏ธAWS revenue: $107.55B
๐Ads revenue: $56.21B
Combined, these segments generated $163.76B net revenue โฆ with ~37% Operating Income Margin
Today at 196๐ต $AMZN appears to be a strong consideration for investment
#stocks #investing
Data: TIKR
Graphs: FAST Graphs
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๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐โผ๏ธ: ๐๐ก๐ข๐ฌ ๐ข๐ฌ ๐๐๐ ๐๐ง๐ฏ๐๐ฌ๐ญ๐ฆ๐๐ง๐ญ ๐๐๐ฏ๐ข๐๐. ๐๐๐๐ฒ๐ฅ๐จ๐ง ๐๐๐ฉ๐ข๐ญ๐๐ฅยฎ ๐๐ง๐ ๐ข๐ญ๐ฌ ๐ซ๐๐ฉ๐ซ๐๐ฌ๐๐ง๐ญ๐๐ญ๐ข๐ฏ๐๐ฌ ๐ฆ๐๐ฒ ๐ก๐๐ฏ๐ ๐ฉ๐จ๐ฌ๐ข๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง๐ฌ ๐ข๐ง ๐ญ๐ก๐ ๐ฌ๐๐๐ฎ๐ซ๐ข๐ญ๐ข๐๐ฌ ๐๐ข๐ฌ๐๐ฎ๐ฌ๐ฌ๐๐ ๐ข๐ง ๐ญ๐ก๐ข๐ฌ ๐ญ๐ฐ๐๐๐ญ.
๐๐ก๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐จ๐ซ๐ฆ๐๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง ๐๐จ๐ง๐ญ๐๐ข๐ง๐๐ ๐ข๐ง ๐ญ๐ก๐ข๐ฌ ๐ญ๐ฐ๐๐๐ญ ๐ข๐ฌ ๐ข๐ง๐ญ๐๐ง๐๐๐ ๐๐จ๐ซ ๐ข๐ง๐๐จ๐ซ๐ฆ๐๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง๐๐ฅ ๐ฉ๐ฎ๐ซ๐ฉ๐จ๐ฌ๐๐ฌ ๐จ๐ง๐ฅ๐ฒ ๐๐ง๐ ๐ฌ๐ก๐จ๐ฎ๐ฅ๐ ๐ง๐จ๐ญ ๐๐ ๐๐จ๐ง๐ฌ๐ญ๐ซ๐ฎ๐๐ ๐๐ฌ ๐ข๐ง๐ฏ๐๐ฌ๐ญ๐ฆ๐๐ง๐ญ ๐๐๐ฏ๐ข๐๐ ๐ญ๐จ ๐ฆ๐๐๐ญ ๐ญ๐ก๐ ๐ฌ๐ฉ๐๐๐ข๐๐ข๐ ๐ง๐๐๐๐ฌ ๐จ๐ ๐๐ง๐ฒ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ข๐ฏ๐ข๐๐ฎ๐๐ฅ ๐จ๐ซ ๐ฌ๐ข๐ญ๐ฎ๐๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง. ๐๐๐ฌ๐ญ ๐ฉ๐๐ซ๐๐จ๐ซ๐ฆ๐๐ง๐๐ ๐ข๐ฌ ๐ง๐จ ๐ ๐ฎ๐๐ซ๐๐ง๐ญ๐๐ ๐จ๐ ๐๐ฎ๐ญ๐ฎ๐ซ๐ ๐ซ๐๐ฌ๐ฎ๐ฅ๐ญ๐ฌ.
๐๐ง๐๐จ๐ซ๐ฆ๐๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง ๐๐จ๐ง๐ญ๐๐ข๐ง๐๐ ๐ข๐ง ๐ญ๐ก๐ข๐ฌ ๐ญ๐ฐ๐๐๐ญ ๐ก๐๐ฌ ๐๐๐๐ง ๐จ๐๐ญ๐๐ข๐ง๐๐ ๐๐ซ๐จ๐ฆ ๐ฌ๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ๐๐๐ฌ ๐[...]
A quality valuation analysis on $AMZN ๐ง๐ฝโโ๏ธ
โขNTM P/OCF Ratio: 14.53x
โข5-Year Mean: 22.57x
โขNTM FCF Yield: 2.43%
โข5-Year Mean: 2.70%
As you can see, $AMZN appears to be slightly undervalued using P/OCF
Going forward, investors can expect to receive ~55% MORE in operating cash flow & ~10% LESS in FCF per share๐ง ***
Before we get into valuation, letโs take a look at why $AMZN is a quality business
BALANCE SHEETโ
โขCash & Equivalents: $101.20B
โขLong-Term Debt: $59.72B
$AMZN has an excellent balance sheet, an AA S&P Credit Rating & 48x FFO Interest Coverage Ratio
RETURN ON CAPITAL๐ / โ
โข2020: 11.6%
โข2021: 8.9%
โข2022: 4.2%
โข2023: 10.1%
โข2024: 15.5%
RETURN ON EQUITYโ
โข2020: 27.4%
โข2021: 28.8%
โข2022: (1.9%)
โข2023: 17.5%
โข2024: 24.3%
$AMZN has solid return metrics, highlighting the financial efficiency of the business
REVENUESโ
โข2019: $280.52B
โข2024: $637.96B
โขCAGR: 17.85%
FREE CASH FLOWโ
โข2019: $21.65B
โข2024: $38.22B
โขCAGR: 12.03%
NORMALIZED EPSโ
โข2019: $1.15
โข2024: $5.53
โขCAGR: 36.90%
SHARE BUYBACKSโ
โข2019 Shares Outstanding: 10.08B
โขLTM Shares Outstanding: 10.72B
MARGINS๐โก๏ธโ
โขLTM Gross Margins: 48.9%
โขLTM Operating Margins: 10.8%
โขLTM Net Income Margins: 9.3%
*Important for $AMZN to continue expanding margins & increase profitability
***NOW TO VALUATION ๐ง
As stated above, investors can expect to receive ~55% MORE in OCF & ~10% LESS in FCF per share
We're using P/OCF instead of P/E. Historical data reveals a stronger correlation between AMZN's share price and Operating Cash Flow (OCF)
Today, analysts anticipate aggressive OCF (per share) growth between 2025 - 2027:
2025E: $13.50 (25% YoY) *FY Dec
2026E: $16.77 (24% YoY)
2027E: $19.46 (16% YoY)
$AMZN has a decent track record of meeting analyst estimates ~2 years out, so letโs assume $AMZN ends 2027 with $19.46 in OCF per share & see its CAGR potential assuming different multiples (photos attached below also include these CAGR estimates):
18x P/OCF: $350.28๐ต โฆ ~23.2% CAGR
17x P/OCF: $330.82๐ต โฆ ~20.6% CAGR
16x P/OCF: $311.36๐ต โฆ ~18.1% CAGR
15x P/OCF: $291.88๐ต โฆ ~15.3% CAGR
14x P/OCF: $272.44๐ต โฆ ~12.5% CAGR
As you can see, $AMZN appears to have aggressive double-digit CAGR potential if we assume ~15x P/OCF, a multiple less than what itโs trading for today (a multiple it hasnโt traded for since 2010) & a multiple thatโs justified given its growth rate
Also check out $AMZN FCF growth estimates ๐
2025E: $50.46B (32% YoY)
2026E: $74.06B (47% YoY)
2027E: $108.96B (47% YoY)
AWS & Amazon Ads will continue to drive growth & profitability. In $AMZN FY 2024:
โ๏ธAWS revenue: $107.55B
๐Ads revenue: $56.21B
Combined, these segments generated $163.76B net revenue โฆ with ~37% Operating Income Margin
Today at 196๐ต $AMZN appears to be a strong consideration for investment
#stocks #investing
Data: TIKR
Graphs: FAST Graphs
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๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐โผ๏ธ: ๐๐ก๐ข๐ฌ ๐ข๐ฌ ๐๐๐ ๐๐ง๐ฏ๐๐ฌ๐ญ๐ฆ๐๐ง๐ญ ๐๐๐ฏ๐ข๐๐. ๐๐๐๐ฒ๐ฅ๐จ๐ง ๐๐๐ฉ๐ข๐ญ๐๐ฅยฎ ๐๐ง๐ ๐ข๐ญ๐ฌ ๐ซ๐๐ฉ๐ซ๐๐ฌ๐๐ง๐ญ๐๐ญ๐ข๐ฏ๐๐ฌ ๐ฆ๐๐ฒ ๐ก๐๐ฏ๐ ๐ฉ๐จ๐ฌ๐ข๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง๐ฌ ๐ข๐ง ๐ญ๐ก๐ ๐ฌ๐๐๐ฎ๐ซ๐ข๐ญ๐ข๐๐ฌ ๐๐ข๐ฌ๐๐ฎ๐ฌ๐ฌ๐๐ ๐ข๐ง ๐ญ๐ก๐ข๐ฌ ๐ญ๐ฐ๐๐๐ญ.
๐๐ก๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐จ๐ซ๐ฆ๐๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง ๐๐จ๐ง๐ญ๐๐ข๐ง๐๐ ๐ข๐ง ๐ญ๐ก๐ข๐ฌ ๐ญ๐ฐ๐๐๐ญ ๐ข๐ฌ ๐ข๐ง๐ญ๐๐ง๐๐๐ ๐๐จ๐ซ ๐ข๐ง๐๐จ๐ซ๐ฆ๐๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง๐๐ฅ ๐ฉ๐ฎ๐ซ๐ฉ๐จ๐ฌ๐๐ฌ ๐จ๐ง๐ฅ๐ฒ ๐๐ง๐ ๐ฌ๐ก๐จ๐ฎ๐ฅ๐ ๐ง๐จ๐ญ ๐๐ ๐๐จ๐ง๐ฌ๐ญ๐ซ๐ฎ๐๐ ๐๐ฌ ๐ข๐ง๐ฏ๐๐ฌ๐ญ๐ฆ๐๐ง๐ญ ๐๐๐ฏ๐ข๐๐ ๐ญ๐จ ๐ฆ๐๐๐ญ ๐ญ๐ก๐ ๐ฌ๐ฉ๐๐๐ข๐๐ข๐ ๐ง๐๐๐๐ฌ ๐จ๐ ๐๐ง๐ฒ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ข๐ฏ๐ข๐๐ฎ๐๐ฅ ๐จ๐ซ ๐ฌ๐ข๐ญ๐ฎ๐๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง. ๐๐๐ฌ๐ญ ๐ฉ๐๐ซ๐๐จ๐ซ๐ฆ๐๐ง๐๐ ๐ข๐ฌ ๐ง๐จ ๐ ๐ฎ๐๐ซ๐๐ง๐ญ๐๐ ๐จ๐ ๐๐ฎ๐ญ๐ฎ๐ซ๐ ๐ซ๐๐ฌ๐ฎ๐ฅ๐ญ๐ฌ.
๐๐ง๐๐จ๐ซ๐ฆ๐๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง ๐๐จ๐ง๐ญ๐๐ข๐ง๐๐ ๐ข๐ง ๐ญ๐ก๐ข๐ฌ ๐ญ๐ฐ๐๐๐ญ ๐ก๐๐ฌ ๐๐๐๐ง ๐จ๐๐ญ๐๐ข๐ง๐๐ ๐๐ซ๐จ๐ฆ ๐ฌ๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ๐๐๐ฌ ๐[...]
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โ Dimitry Nakhla | Babylon Capitalยฎ A quality valuation analysis on $AMZN ๐ง๐ฝโโ๏ธ โขNTM P/OCF Ratio: 14.53x โข5-Year Mean: 22.57x โขNTM FCF Yield: 2.43% โข5-Year Mean: 2.70% As you can see, $AMZN appears to be slightly undervalued using P/OCF Going forwardโฆ
๐๐ฅ๐ข๐๐ฏ๐๐ ๐ญ๐จ ๐๐ ๐ซ๐๐ฅ๐ข๐๐๐ฅ๐, ๐๐ฎ๐ญ ๐ข๐ฌ ๐ง๐จ๐ญ ๐ ๐ฎ๐๐ซ๐๐ง๐ญ๐๐๐ ๐๐ฌ ๐ญ๐จ ๐๐จ๐ฆ๐ฉ๐ฅ๐๐ญ๐๐ง๐๐ฌ๐ฌ ๐จ๐ซ ๐๐๐๐ฎ๐ซ๐๐๐ฒ.
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A breakdown of $ASML's revenue per geographic region ๐๐ https://t.co/sgqM3niUcd
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A breakdown of $ASML's revenue per geographic region ๐๐ https://t.co/sgqM3niUcd
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BREAKING: The S&P 500 opens sharply higher, adding over +$1.2 TRILLION of market cap over the last 2 sessions. https://t.co/1w4h5kfd8m
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BREAKING: The S&P 500 opens sharply higher, adding over +$1.2 TRILLION of market cap over the last 2 sessions. https://t.co/1w4h5kfd8m
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