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Hitler:
> ordered the complete destruction of Moscow and St. Petersburg
> called for colonizing the East with German settlements even "beyond the Urals"
> Russians are "fit for nothing but hard work under coercion"
> Ukrainians were "every bit as idle, disorganized, and nihilistically Asiatic as Greater Russians"
> Slavs only understood "the whip"
> praised Stalin as "one of the greatest living human beings"
> British colonial rule in India was the model for German occupation of Russia
> Wanted to keep Slavs uneducated so they would function as little more than donkeys for work
> Crimea to be fully colonized by Germans
All of this confirms what Hitler wrote in Mein Kampf and what was revealed in Table Talks.
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> ordered the complete destruction of Moscow and St. Petersburg
> called for colonizing the East with German settlements even "beyond the Urals"
> Russians are "fit for nothing but hard work under coercion"
> Ukrainians were "every bit as idle, disorganized, and nihilistically Asiatic as Greater Russians"
> Slavs only understood "the whip"
> praised Stalin as "one of the greatest living human beings"
> British colonial rule in India was the model for German occupation of Russia
> Wanted to keep Slavs uneducated so they would function as little more than donkeys for work
> Crimea to be fully colonized by Germans
All of this confirms what Hitler wrote in Mein Kampf and what was revealed in Table Talks.
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Even Rosenberg rebuked his fellow Nazis' overt anti-Slavicism, but only as an optical measure to further dupe the Ukrainians into thinking they had an ally against Stalin, when in fact their goal was the colonization of Ukraine for German exploitation.
> In mid-March Rosenberg sent Hitler a brief memorandum which, without mentioning names, was a sharp indictment of Kochโs policy. โ Certain personalitiesโ , he wrote,
have drawn the conclusion from [official policy] that they must drastically and publicly give vent wherever possible to such expressions as โ colonial people, who must be handled with the whip like the Negroesโ [or] โ Slavic peoples who must be kept as dumb as can be . . .โ It is precisely this attitude of disdain, repeatedly shown in public which has often had worse repercussions on the [populationโs] willingness to co-operate than all other measures.
Finally, Rosenberg expressed concern about the loyalty of the Ukrainian population, which, he had claimed only recently, was Germanyโs natural ally. Germany could think and plan whatever it wanted, his report to Hitler continued, โ but it is not the task of the German political representatives [on the spot] to proclaim measures which in the last analysis might drive the conquered population to despairโ.
> In mid-March Rosenberg sent Hitler a brief memorandum which, without mentioning names, was a sharp indictment of Kochโs policy. โ Certain personalitiesโ , he wrote,
have drawn the conclusion from [official policy] that they must drastically and publicly give vent wherever possible to such expressions as โ colonial people, who must be handled with the whip like the Negroesโ [or] โ Slavic peoples who must be kept as dumb as can be . . .โ It is precisely this attitude of disdain, repeatedly shown in public which has often had worse repercussions on the [populationโs] willingness to co-operate than all other measures.
Finally, Rosenberg expressed concern about the loyalty of the Ukrainian population, which, he had claimed only recently, was Germanyโs natural ally. Germany could think and plan whatever it wanted, his report to Hitler continued, โ but it is not the task of the German political representatives [on the spot] to proclaim measures which in the last analysis might drive the conquered population to despairโ.
Source: German rule in Russia, 1941-1945: a study of occupation policies, Alexander Dallin๐4
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How do the "Judeo-Bolshevism" proponents explain this guy: Vasily Blokhin.
"Blokhin was hand-picked for the position by Joseph Stalin in 1926 and led a company of executioners that performed and supervised numerous mass killings in the Soviet Union during Stalin's reign, mostly during the Great Purge and Eastern Front of World War II.[1] Blokhin is recorded as having executed tens of thousands of prisoners by his own hand, including his killing of about 7,000 Polish prisoners of war during the Katyn massacre in spring 1940, making him the most prolific official executioner in recorded world history."
Among the victims at Katyn were nearly a thousand Jews. A CIA report says this:
"Recent historical research shows that 700-900 of the victims were Polish Jews. 8 Ironically, the Germans knew this, and it complicated Goebbels' effort to portray the atrocity as a "Jewish-Bolshevik conspiracy"--a mainstay of the Nazi regime's anti-Semitic propaganda."
NYT:
"Because the 4,443 officers executed included many academicians, doctors, lawyers, etc., there were among them a disproportionate number of Jewish professionals."
So this Russian Gentile Blokhin carried out the murders at Katyn under the orders of Stalin and NKVD chief Lavrentiy Beria, neither Jewish.
The memorandum was signed by these names:
"Memorandum on NKVD letterhead from L. Beria to "Comrade Stalin" proposing to execute captured Polish officers, soldiers, and other prisoners by shooting. Stalin's handwritten signature appears on top, followed by signatures of Politburo members K. Voroshilov, V. Molotov, and A. Mikoyan. Signatures in left margin are M. Kalinin and L. Kaganovich, both favoring execution."
The only Jew on that list was Kaganovich, who said he didn't identify as Jewish, denounced Jews as "rebellious" and prone to anarchy and approved of Stalin's purges of specifically Jewish members of the regime during the battle with Trotsky.
That's not to say that many Jews weren't also involved in Soviet atrocities themselves (they formed a large segment of Soviet leadership in the earlier years of the regime), but it does show that this was not an exclusively Jewish affair and that the Jews involved in Bolshevism were not acting exclusively as Jews because they were willing to kill other Jews in the service of Stalin and Communism.
Christians often try to depict Bolshevism as "Jewish revenge on Christians" or something, but considering that the two most deadly protagonists of the Soviet Bolshevik killing machine were Stalin and Beria, both Georgian Gentiles with Orthodox Christian backgrounds, that thesis is severely flawed. The Jews involved in Bolshevism were evil, as were the Gentiles involved. It's too simplistic to blame this on one group of people.
"Blokhin was hand-picked for the position by Joseph Stalin in 1926 and led a company of executioners that performed and supervised numerous mass killings in the Soviet Union during Stalin's reign, mostly during the Great Purge and Eastern Front of World War II.[1] Blokhin is recorded as having executed tens of thousands of prisoners by his own hand, including his killing of about 7,000 Polish prisoners of war during the Katyn massacre in spring 1940, making him the most prolific official executioner in recorded world history."
Among the victims at Katyn were nearly a thousand Jews. A CIA report says this:
"Recent historical research shows that 700-900 of the victims were Polish Jews. 8 Ironically, the Germans knew this, and it complicated Goebbels' effort to portray the atrocity as a "Jewish-Bolshevik conspiracy"--a mainstay of the Nazi regime's anti-Semitic propaganda."
NYT:
"Because the 4,443 officers executed included many academicians, doctors, lawyers, etc., there were among them a disproportionate number of Jewish professionals."
So this Russian Gentile Blokhin carried out the murders at Katyn under the orders of Stalin and NKVD chief Lavrentiy Beria, neither Jewish.
The memorandum was signed by these names:
"Memorandum on NKVD letterhead from L. Beria to "Comrade Stalin" proposing to execute captured Polish officers, soldiers, and other prisoners by shooting. Stalin's handwritten signature appears on top, followed by signatures of Politburo members K. Voroshilov, V. Molotov, and A. Mikoyan. Signatures in left margin are M. Kalinin and L. Kaganovich, both favoring execution."
The only Jew on that list was Kaganovich, who said he didn't identify as Jewish, denounced Jews as "rebellious" and prone to anarchy and approved of Stalin's purges of specifically Jewish members of the regime during the battle with Trotsky.
That's not to say that many Jews weren't also involved in Soviet atrocities themselves (they formed a large segment of Soviet leadership in the earlier years of the regime), but it does show that this was not an exclusively Jewish affair and that the Jews involved in Bolshevism were not acting exclusively as Jews because they were willing to kill other Jews in the service of Stalin and Communism.
Christians often try to depict Bolshevism as "Jewish revenge on Christians" or something, but considering that the two most deadly protagonists of the Soviet Bolshevik killing machine were Stalin and Beria, both Georgian Gentiles with Orthodox Christian backgrounds, that thesis is severely flawed. The Jews involved in Bolshevism were evil, as were the Gentiles involved. It's too simplistic to blame this on one group of people.
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Not only did Benito Mussolini praise Joseph Stalin for becoming a fascist, but he explicitly expressed gratitude to Stalin for โrendering a commendable service to Fascism.โ
Mussolini believed that Stalin was the main pillar of destroying โinternationalismโ within Communism. (Internationalism is the main problem that Hitler had with Marxism/Communism, which is well written in Mein Kampf: โ๐๐ฉ๐ข๐ต ๐ฑ๐ญ๐ข๐ค๐ฆ๐ด ๐๐ถ๐ด๐ด๐ฐ๐ญ๐ช๐ฏ๐ช ๐ช๐ฏ ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ ๐ณ๐ข๐ฏ๐ฌ๐ด ๐ฐ๐ง ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ ๐ธ๐ฐ๐ณ๐ญ๐ฅ'๐ด ๐จ๐ณ๐ฆ๐ข๐ต ๐ฎ๐ฆ๐ฏ ๐ช๐ด ๐ฉ๐ช๐ด ๐ฅ๐ฆ๐ค๐ช๐ด๐ช๐ฐ๐ฏ ๐ฏ๐ฐ๐ต ๐ต๐ฐ ๐ด๐ฉ๐ข๐ณ๐ฆ ๐๐ต๐ข๐ญ๐บ ๐ธ๐ช๐ต๐ฉ ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ ๐๐ข๐ณ๐น๐ช๐ด๐ต๐ด ๐ฃ๐ถ๐ต ๐ต๐ฐ ๐ณ๐ฆ๐ฅ๐ฆ๐ฆ๐ฎ ๐ฉ๐ช๐ด ๐ค๐ฐ๐ถ๐ฏ๐ต๐ณ๐บ ๐ง๐ณ๐ฐ๐ฎ ๐๐ข๐ณ๐น๐ช๐ด๐ฎ ๐ฃ๐บ ๐ฅ๐ฆ๐ด๐ต๐ณ๐ฐ๐บ๐ช๐ฏ๐จ ๐ช๐ฏ๐ต๐ฆ๐ณ๐ฏ๐ข๐ต๐ช๐ฐ๐ฏ๐ข๐ญ๐ช๐ด๐ฎ.โ)
Here is what Mussolini had to say about Stalin
"๐๐ต๐ข๐ญ๐ช๐ฏ ๐ฅ๐ฐ๐ฆ๐ด ๐ฏ๐ฐ๐ต ๐ณ๐ฆ๐ด๐ฐ๐ณ๐ต ๐ต๐ฐ ๐ค๐ข๐ด๐ต๐ฐ๐ณ ๐ฐ๐ช๐ญ ๐ต๐ฐ ๐ฑ๐ถ๐ฏ๐ช๐ด๐ฉ ๐๐ฐ๐ฎ๐ฎ๐ถ๐ฏ๐ช๐ด๐ต ๐ญ๐ฆ๐ข๐ฅ๐ฆ๐ณ๐ด ๐ธ๐ฉ๐ฐ ๐ข๐ณ๐ฆ ๐ด๐ฐ ๐ด๐ต๐ถ๐ฑ๐ช๐ฅ ๐ฐ๐ณ ๐ค๐ณ๐ช๐ฎ๐ช๐ฏ๐ข๐ญ ๐ข๐ด ๐ด๐ต๐ช๐ญ๐ญ ๐ต๐ฐ ๐ฃ๐ฆ๐ญ๐ช๐ฆ๐ท๐ฆ ๐ช๐ฏ ๐๐ฐ๐ฎ๐ฎ๐ถ๐ฏ๐ช๐ด๐ฎ, ๐๐ต๐ข๐ญ๐ช๐ฏ ๐ช๐ด ๐ถ๐ฏ๐ข๐ฃ๐ญ๐ฆ ๐ต๐ฐ ๐ถ๐ฏ๐ฅ๐ฆ๐ณ๐ด๐ต๐ข๐ฏ๐ฅ ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ ๐ด๐ถ๐ฃ๐ต๐ญ๐ฆ ๐ช๐ณ๐ฐ๐ฏ๐บ ๐ช๐ฏ๐ท๐ฐ๐ญ๐ท๐ฆ๐ฅ ๐ช๐ฏ ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ ๐ญ๐ข๐น๐ข๐ต๐ช๐ท๐ฆ ๐ด๐บ๐ด๐ต๐ฆ๐ฎ ๐ฐ๐ง ๐ค๐ข๐ด๐ต๐ฐ๐ณ ๐ฐ๐ช๐ญ. ๐๐ฆ ๐ฎ๐ข๐ฌ๐ฆ๐ด ๐ข ๐ค๐ญ๐ฆ๐ข๐ฏ ๐ด๐ธ๐ฆ๐ฆ๐ฑ ๐ฃ๐บ ๐ฎ๐ฆ๐ข๐ฏ๐ด ๐ฐ๐ง ๐ด๐บ๐ด๐ต๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ด ๐ธ๐ฉ๐ช๐ค๐ฉ ๐ธ๐ฆ๐ณ๐ฆ ๐ฃ๐ฐ๐ณ๐ฏ ๐ช๐ฏ ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ ๐ด๐ต๐ฆ๐ฑ๐ฑ๐ฆ๐ด ๐ฐ๐ง ๐๐ฆ๐ฏ๐จ๐ฉ๐ช๐ด ๐๐ฉ๐ข๐ฏ ... ๐๐ต๐ข๐ญ๐ช๐ฏ ๐ณ๐ฆ๐ฏ๐ฅ๐ฆ๐ณ๐ด ๐ข ๐ค๐ฐ๐ฎ๐ฎ๐ฆ๐ฏ๐ฅ๐ข๐ฃ๐ญ๐ฆ ๐ด๐ฆ๐ณ๐ท๐ช๐ค๐ฆ ๐ต๐ฐ ๐๐ข๐ด๐ค๐ช๐ด๐ฎ.โ
Mussolini believed that Stalin was the main pillar of destroying โinternationalismโ within Communism. (Internationalism is the main problem that Hitler had with Marxism/Communism, which is well written in Mein Kampf: โ๐๐ฉ๐ข๐ต ๐ฑ๐ญ๐ข๐ค๐ฆ๐ด ๐๐ถ๐ด๐ด๐ฐ๐ญ๐ช๐ฏ๐ช ๐ช๐ฏ ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ ๐ณ๐ข๐ฏ๐ฌ๐ด ๐ฐ๐ง ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ ๐ธ๐ฐ๐ณ๐ญ๐ฅ'๐ด ๐จ๐ณ๐ฆ๐ข๐ต ๐ฎ๐ฆ๐ฏ ๐ช๐ด ๐ฉ๐ช๐ด ๐ฅ๐ฆ๐ค๐ช๐ด๐ช๐ฐ๐ฏ ๐ฏ๐ฐ๐ต ๐ต๐ฐ ๐ด๐ฉ๐ข๐ณ๐ฆ ๐๐ต๐ข๐ญ๐บ ๐ธ๐ช๐ต๐ฉ ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ ๐๐ข๐ณ๐น๐ช๐ด๐ต๐ด ๐ฃ๐ถ๐ต ๐ต๐ฐ ๐ณ๐ฆ๐ฅ๐ฆ๐ฆ๐ฎ ๐ฉ๐ช๐ด ๐ค๐ฐ๐ถ๐ฏ๐ต๐ณ๐บ ๐ง๐ณ๐ฐ๐ฎ ๐๐ข๐ณ๐น๐ช๐ด๐ฎ ๐ฃ๐บ ๐ฅ๐ฆ๐ด๐ต๐ณ๐ฐ๐บ๐ช๐ฏ๐จ ๐ช๐ฏ๐ต๐ฆ๐ณ๐ฏ๐ข๐ต๐ช๐ฐ๐ฏ๐ข๐ญ๐ช๐ด๐ฎ.โ)
Here is what Mussolini had to say about Stalin
"๐๐ต๐ข๐ญ๐ช๐ฏ ๐ฅ๐ฐ๐ฆ๐ด ๐ฏ๐ฐ๐ต ๐ณ๐ฆ๐ด๐ฐ๐ณ๐ต ๐ต๐ฐ ๐ค๐ข๐ด๐ต๐ฐ๐ณ ๐ฐ๐ช๐ญ ๐ต๐ฐ ๐ฑ๐ถ๐ฏ๐ช๐ด๐ฉ ๐๐ฐ๐ฎ๐ฎ๐ถ๐ฏ๐ช๐ด๐ต ๐ญ๐ฆ๐ข๐ฅ๐ฆ๐ณ๐ด ๐ธ๐ฉ๐ฐ ๐ข๐ณ๐ฆ ๐ด๐ฐ ๐ด๐ต๐ถ๐ฑ๐ช๐ฅ ๐ฐ๐ณ ๐ค๐ณ๐ช๐ฎ๐ช๐ฏ๐ข๐ญ ๐ข๐ด ๐ด๐ต๐ช๐ญ๐ญ ๐ต๐ฐ ๐ฃ๐ฆ๐ญ๐ช๐ฆ๐ท๐ฆ ๐ช๐ฏ ๐๐ฐ๐ฎ๐ฎ๐ถ๐ฏ๐ช๐ด๐ฎ, ๐๐ต๐ข๐ญ๐ช๐ฏ ๐ช๐ด ๐ถ๐ฏ๐ข๐ฃ๐ญ๐ฆ ๐ต๐ฐ ๐ถ๐ฏ๐ฅ๐ฆ๐ณ๐ด๐ต๐ข๐ฏ๐ฅ ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ ๐ด๐ถ๐ฃ๐ต๐ญ๐ฆ ๐ช๐ณ๐ฐ๐ฏ๐บ ๐ช๐ฏ๐ท๐ฐ๐ญ๐ท๐ฆ๐ฅ ๐ช๐ฏ ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ ๐ญ๐ข๐น๐ข๐ต๐ช๐ท๐ฆ ๐ด๐บ๐ด๐ต๐ฆ๐ฎ ๐ฐ๐ง ๐ค๐ข๐ด๐ต๐ฐ๐ณ ๐ฐ๐ช๐ญ. ๐๐ฆ ๐ฎ๐ข๐ฌ๐ฆ๐ด ๐ข ๐ค๐ญ๐ฆ๐ข๐ฏ ๐ด๐ธ๐ฆ๐ฆ๐ฑ ๐ฃ๐บ ๐ฎ๐ฆ๐ข๐ฏ๐ด ๐ฐ๐ง ๐ด๐บ๐ด๐ต๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ด ๐ธ๐ฉ๐ช๐ค๐ฉ ๐ธ๐ฆ๐ณ๐ฆ ๐ฃ๐ฐ๐ณ๐ฏ ๐ช๐ฏ ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ ๐ด๐ต๐ฆ๐ฑ๐ฑ๐ฆ๐ด ๐ฐ๐ง ๐๐ฆ๐ฏ๐จ๐ฉ๐ช๐ด ๐๐ฉ๐ข๐ฏ ... ๐๐ต๐ข๐ญ๐ช๐ฏ ๐ณ๐ฆ๐ฏ๐ฅ๐ฆ๐ณ๐ด ๐ข ๐ค๐ฐ๐ฎ๐ฎ๐ฆ๐ฏ๐ฅ๐ข๐ฃ๐ญ๐ฆ ๐ด๐ฆ๐ณ๐ท๐ช๐ค๐ฆ ๐ต๐ฐ ๐๐ข๐ด๐ค๐ช๐ด๐ฎ.โ
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The vast majority of Mediterranean Europeans online who identify themselves as NS or overly worship The Third Reich just for vibes get baffled when schizo Nordicists claim how they were โle real Ancient Romans and le real Ancient Greeks.โ The Nordic โKangingโ was largely done by NS intellectuals including key figures such as Hitler, Darrรฉ, Gunther, and Rosenberg. Hitler himself viewed the Ancient Greeks as the descendants of the Dorians who originated from the northern Germanic lands, which is a pseudoscientific myth that lacks credible evidence. Benito Mussolini, who believed that Mediterraneans are the legitimate descendants of the Great Roman Empire, himself called out how hyper Nordicism from NS Germany was overly delusional.
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Mussolini had his own version of Lebensraum: Spacio Vitale.
> "โAnother element of Mussoliniโs fascism was the idea of โspazio vitaleโ which translates to โvital spaceโ. It is the belief that Italy required more space to operate. It further related to fascism as, the territory that Mussolini identified was where the Roman Empire had previously controlled. This concept of โvital spaceโ relates to another important aspect of fascism โ racism superiority. While Mussolini did not necessarily support the racial policies and practise of Adolf Hitler and Nazi Germany, he did assert that some people were superior over others. For instance, he argued that it was justified for superior people to rule over inferior people. This is exemplified in a speech from 1920 that he gave, where he said:
โโWhen dealing with such a race as Slavicโinferior and barbarianโwe must not pursue the carrot, but the stick policy... We should not be afraid of new victims... The Italian border should run across the Brenner Pass, Monte Nevoso and the Dinaric Alps... I would say we can easily sacrifice 500,000 barbaric Slavs for 50,000 Italians...โ
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> "โAnother element of Mussoliniโs fascism was the idea of โspazio vitaleโ which translates to โvital spaceโ. It is the belief that Italy required more space to operate. It further related to fascism as, the territory that Mussolini identified was where the Roman Empire had previously controlled. This concept of โvital spaceโ relates to another important aspect of fascism โ racism superiority. While Mussolini did not necessarily support the racial policies and practise of Adolf Hitler and Nazi Germany, he did assert that some people were superior over others. For instance, he argued that it was justified for superior people to rule over inferior people. This is exemplified in a speech from 1920 that he gave, where he said:
โโWhen dealing with such a race as Slavicโinferior and barbarianโwe must not pursue the carrot, but the stick policy... We should not be afraid of new victims... The Italian border should run across the Brenner Pass, Monte Nevoso and the Dinaric Alps... I would say we can easily sacrifice 500,000 barbaric Slavs for 50,000 Italians...โ
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> But from May onwards, Goebbelsโs daily press instructions unfolded a hate campaign against Poland that made it seem as if the ethnic German inhabitants of the country, and above all of Danzig, were in constant, mortal and growing danger from violence meted out to them by Poles. โEthnic Germans flee from Polish terrorโ, screamed the headlines. โGerman houses broken into with axes - Terrorized by Poles for weeks - Hundreds of refugees are arrested by the Polesโ. Poles were allegedly murdering ethnic Germans, shooting at German passers-by in Danzig, and generally threatening to make their lives unbearable. Although the Polish governmentโs policy towards the ethnic German minority had been considerably less liberal and tolerant than that of its Czech counterpart, these stories were grotesque exaggerations if not pure invention. For their part, the Nazis who dominated the political scene in Danzig kept up the pressure by provoking the Poles and staging incidents for the German press to exploit, such as mounting violent attacks on Polish customs officers and spreading atrocity stories when the officers defended themselves.
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The Nazis killed between two and three million ethnic Poles during the occupation.
"To take Poland as one example: through mass murder, enslavement, ethnic cleansing, and a systematic attempt to destroy Polish ethnic identityโincluding the repression of education, literature, cultural life, and even the use of the Polish languageโthe Nazis made considerable progress in their goal of eliminating Poles as an ethnic group. During the reign of Hans Frankโs General Government, the Nazis murdered between two to three million ethnic Poles (as well as 90 percent of Polish Jewry, or three million Polish Jews), and ethnically cleansed or enslaved millions more."
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/the-second-world-war-was-not-stalins-war/
"To take Poland as one example: through mass murder, enslavement, ethnic cleansing, and a systematic attempt to destroy Polish ethnic identityโincluding the repression of education, literature, cultural life, and even the use of the Polish languageโthe Nazis made considerable progress in their goal of eliminating Poles as an ethnic group. During the reign of Hans Frankโs General Government, the Nazis murdered between two to three million ethnic Poles (as well as 90 percent of Polish Jewry, or three million Polish Jews), and ethnically cleansed or enslaved millions more."
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/the-second-world-war-was-not-stalins-war/
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The Second World War Was Not Stalinโs War
Sean McMeekin's new work is compelling, unorthodox, and wrong.
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There was no "genocide" or even "ethnic cleansing" of Germans in Poland before World War II.
There were however ethnic cleansing of Poles perpetrated by the Nazis when they invaded Poland.
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There were however ethnic cleansing of Poles perpetrated by the Nazis when they invaded Poland.
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โIn Poland we already have our first casualty,โ Goebbels reported gleefully in mid-May 1939. โEverything is taking its preordained path.โ
~ Volker Ullrich.
"Everything is taking its preordained path"
It is abundantly clear that the Nazis welcome these kinds of events because they provide them with a pretext and rationale for invading. However, there were no massacres before the invasion of Poland, as Goebbels himself makes no record of them in his Diaries; instead, he speaks gleefully and welcomingly about the "first casualty" in this entry. Furthermore, Hitler makes no mention of the persecution of the German people in his secret addresses as the only reason they had to invade.
"The Poles are stirring things up against us. The Fรผhrer welcomes this."
~ Joseph Goebbels, Diary entry on 2 May 1939.
"stirring things" had nothing to do with the atrocities; rather, Goebbels used it to describe Poland's unwillingness to cede territory to the Nazis and their cooperation with Britain.
~ Volker Ullrich.
"Everything is taking its preordained path"
It is abundantly clear that the Nazis welcome these kinds of events because they provide them with a pretext and rationale for invading. However, there were no massacres before the invasion of Poland, as Goebbels himself makes no record of them in his Diaries; instead, he speaks gleefully and welcomingly about the "first casualty" in this entry. Furthermore, Hitler makes no mention of the persecution of the German people in his secret addresses as the only reason they had to invade.
"The Poles are stirring things up against us. The Fรผhrer welcomes this."
~ Joseph Goebbels, Diary entry on 2 May 1939.
"stirring things" had nothing to do with the atrocities; rather, Goebbels used it to describe Poland's unwillingness to cede territory to the Nazis and their cooperation with Britain.
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> But from May [1939] onwards, Goebbelsโs daily press instructions unfolded a hate campaign against Poland that made it seem as if the ethnic German inhabitants of the country, and above all of Danzig, were in constant, mortal and growing danger from violence meted out to them by Poles. โEthnic Germans flee from Polish terrorโ, screamed the headlines. โGerman houses broken into with axes - Terrorized by Poles for weeks - Hundreds of refugees are arrested by the Polesโ. Poles were allegedly murdering ethnic Germans, shooting at German passers-by in Danzig, and generally threatening to make their lives unbearable. Although the Polish governmentโs policy towards the ethnic German minority had been considerably less liberal and tolerant than that of its Czech counterpart, these stories were grotesque exaggerations if not pure invention. For their part, the Nazis who dominated the political scene in Danzig kept up the pressure by provoking the Poles and staging incidents for the German press to exploit, such as mounting violent attacks on Polish customs officers and spreading atrocity stories when the officers defended themselves.
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Magda Goebbels said Joseph was a monstrous criminal in her last letter to a friend:
"We have demanded monstrous things from the German people, treated other nations with pitiless cruelty. For this the victors will exact their full revenge...we can't let them think we are cowards. Everybody else has the right to live. We haven't got this rightโwe have forfeited it. I make myself responsible. I belonged. I believed in Hitler and for long enough in Joseph Goebbels...Suppose I remain alive, I should immediately be arrested and interrogated about Joseph. If I tell the truth I must reveal what sort of man he wasโmust describe all that happened behind the scenes. Then any respectable person would turn from me in disgust. It would be equally impossible to do the oppositeโthat is to defend what he has done, to justify him to his enemies, to speak up for him out of true conviction...That would go against my conscience. So you see, Ello, it would be quite impossible for me to go on living. We will take the children with us, they are too good, too lovely for the world which lies ahead. In the days to come Joseph will be regarded as one of the greatest criminals that Germany has ever produced. His children would hear that said daily, people would torment them, despise and humiliate them. They would have to bear the burden of his sins and vengeance would be wreaked on them."
"We have demanded monstrous things from the German people, treated other nations with pitiless cruelty. For this the victors will exact their full revenge...we can't let them think we are cowards. Everybody else has the right to live. We haven't got this rightโwe have forfeited it. I make myself responsible. I belonged. I believed in Hitler and for long enough in Joseph Goebbels...Suppose I remain alive, I should immediately be arrested and interrogated about Joseph. If I tell the truth I must reveal what sort of man he wasโmust describe all that happened behind the scenes. Then any respectable person would turn from me in disgust. It would be equally impossible to do the oppositeโthat is to defend what he has done, to justify him to his enemies, to speak up for him out of true conviction...That would go against my conscience. So you see, Ello, it would be quite impossible for me to go on living. We will take the children with us, they are too good, too lovely for the world which lies ahead. In the days to come Joseph will be regarded as one of the greatest criminals that Germany has ever produced. His children would hear that said daily, people would torment them, despise and humiliate them. They would have to bear the burden of his sins and vengeance would be wreaked on them."
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Nazi intended to establish a socialist state to replace the socialist Bolshevik regime.
Source: Source: THE ORGINS OF THE FINAL SOLUTION, Christopher Browning
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Source: Monologe im Fรผhrerhauptquartier 1941โ1944: Die Aufzeichnungen Heinrich Heims, ed. Werner Jochmann
> "We [i.e. Germans] want to settle the south of Ukraine, the Crimea in particular, exclusively German. It is no trouble for me to push the population there [i.e. population in south of Ukraine] elsewhere."
> "The [Eastern] region must lose the character of the Asiatic steppe and become Europeanised! To this end, we are now building the great transport routes to the southern tip of the Crimea, to the Caucasus; the German cities are lined up along these transport routes, like a string of pearls, and around them lies the German settlement. We will have the two or three million people we need for this sooner than we think; WE WILL TAKE THEM FROM GERMANY, THE SCANDINAVIAN COUNTRIES, THE WESTERN COUNTRIES AND AMERICA. I will probably not live to see it, but in twenty years the [Eastern] area [which was previously occupied by Slavs] will already contain 20 million [Germanic] people. In three hundred years it will be a flourishing park landscape of unusual beauty!
The natives [i.e. Ukrainians]? We will proceed to sift them. We'll put the destructive Jew out altogether. The impression I had in the Belorussian region was better than that in the Ukraine. We won't go into the Russian cities, they must die out completely. We don't need to feel any remorse. We don't live ourselves into the role of nanny, we have no obligation to the people at all. Reform the home, catch the lice, German teachers, newspapers? No! We'd rather set up a radio station that depends on us, and for the rest they should only know the road signs so that they don't run into our cars! By freedom these people mean that they only have to wash themselves every festival. If we come with soft soap, we won't get any sympathy. We have to completely retrain ourselves. There is only one task: to carry out a GERMANISATION BY BRINGING IN THE GERMANS AND TO REGARD THE NATIVES AS INDIANS. If these people had triumphed over us, God have mercy! Hatred? No, we don't know that; we only act out of consideration. But they act out of the inferiority complex of the inferior; they smell the superior and connect hatred with the inferiority complex. Intelligence? We have so much of it here that we only have difficulties with it! Anyone from Europe who is of good will can take part in the work of settlement."
> "The German farmer has the urge to get on, he thinks of his children; but a Ukrainian farmer will not act according to the imperative of duty."
> "The Slavic peoples, on the other hand, are not destined for a life of their own. They know that, and we must not persuade them that they can do the same. We created the Baltic countries and Ukraine in 1918. But today we have no interest in the continued existence of the Eastern Baltic states and a free Ukraine [i.e independent Ukraine]. Rechristianisation would be the biggest mistake, because that would be reorganisation. I am also not in favour of a university in Kiev. We better not teach them to read. They don't love us at all if we torture them with schools; it would be wrong even to put them on a locomotive. We also have no reason to start redistributing the land. But the natives will live far better in the future than they do now. We will find in them the people to work the soil that we are lacking today."
> "We [i.e. Germans] want to settle the south of Ukraine, the Crimea in particular, exclusively German. It is no trouble for me to push the population there [i.e. population in south of Ukraine] elsewhere."
> "The [Eastern] region must lose the character of the Asiatic steppe and become Europeanised! To this end, we are now building the great transport routes to the southern tip of the Crimea, to the Caucasus; the German cities are lined up along these transport routes, like a string of pearls, and around them lies the German settlement. We will have the two or three million people we need for this sooner than we think; WE WILL TAKE THEM FROM GERMANY, THE SCANDINAVIAN COUNTRIES, THE WESTERN COUNTRIES AND AMERICA. I will probably not live to see it, but in twenty years the [Eastern] area [which was previously occupied by Slavs] will already contain 20 million [Germanic] people. In three hundred years it will be a flourishing park landscape of unusual beauty!
The natives [i.e. Ukrainians]? We will proceed to sift them. We'll put the destructive Jew out altogether. The impression I had in the Belorussian region was better than that in the Ukraine. We won't go into the Russian cities, they must die out completely. We don't need to feel any remorse. We don't live ourselves into the role of nanny, we have no obligation to the people at all. Reform the home, catch the lice, German teachers, newspapers? No! We'd rather set up a radio station that depends on us, and for the rest they should only know the road signs so that they don't run into our cars! By freedom these people mean that they only have to wash themselves every festival. If we come with soft soap, we won't get any sympathy. We have to completely retrain ourselves. There is only one task: to carry out a GERMANISATION BY BRINGING IN THE GERMANS AND TO REGARD THE NATIVES AS INDIANS. If these people had triumphed over us, God have mercy! Hatred? No, we don't know that; we only act out of consideration. But they act out of the inferiority complex of the inferior; they smell the superior and connect hatred with the inferiority complex. Intelligence? We have so much of it here that we only have difficulties with it! Anyone from Europe who is of good will can take part in the work of settlement."
> "The German farmer has the urge to get on, he thinks of his children; but a Ukrainian farmer will not act according to the imperative of duty."
> "The Slavic peoples, on the other hand, are not destined for a life of their own. They know that, and we must not persuade them that they can do the same. We created the Baltic countries and Ukraine in 1918. But today we have no interest in the continued existence of the Eastern Baltic states and a free Ukraine [i.e independent Ukraine]. Rechristianisation would be the biggest mistake, because that would be reorganisation. I am also not in favour of a university in Kiev. We better not teach them to read. They don't love us at all if we torture them with schools; it would be wrong even to put them on a locomotive. We also have no reason to start redistributing the land. But the natives will live far better in the future than they do now. We will find in them the people to work the soil that we are lacking today."
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The nazis sought to hide the inflationary side effects of their high spending fiscal policy with price stops. They also fudged the numbers on unemployment to suit propaganda needs.
> "Other economic policies included the self-sufficiency policies of "autarky" which levied high tariffs on agricultural goods and other imports, central planning and the nationalization of key industries, which included banking, steel production, shipbuilding, transportation, education, and more. The results were mixed. Unemployment was enormously reduced through government stimulation policies and fudging on the official numbers-failing to count Jews, opponents, refugees, women who got marriage allowances, and other minorities, while upping the amount of jobs by counting those in labor-service camps, army recruits, and Nazi party apparatchiks. According to Dan P. Silverman in Hitler's Economy, "Unemployment was reduced in Germany from 34 percent or about 6 million people, in January 1933, to 14 percent, or 2.5 million people, in January 1936." This is a good drop in joblessness, but nothing close to what some have argued was full employment. Additionally, real wages had declined by approximately 25% between 1933 and 1938."
> "A host of economic side effects surfaced. After suspending what remain of the gold standard, Nazi Germany pressured its central bank to keep interest rates low and government budget deficits high, causing the economy to overheat and triggering higher prices. By November 1936, the Nazi regime issued a price stop decree that prohibited increases in prices and wages. Despite the fact that more waves of inflation continued to occur, prices were still kept artificially low."
Source: Killing History
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> "Other economic policies included the self-sufficiency policies of "autarky" which levied high tariffs on agricultural goods and other imports, central planning and the nationalization of key industries, which included banking, steel production, shipbuilding, transportation, education, and more. The results were mixed. Unemployment was enormously reduced through government stimulation policies and fudging on the official numbers-failing to count Jews, opponents, refugees, women who got marriage allowances, and other minorities, while upping the amount of jobs by counting those in labor-service camps, army recruits, and Nazi party apparatchiks. According to Dan P. Silverman in Hitler's Economy, "Unemployment was reduced in Germany from 34 percent or about 6 million people, in January 1933, to 14 percent, or 2.5 million people, in January 1936." This is a good drop in joblessness, but nothing close to what some have argued was full employment. Additionally, real wages had declined by approximately 25% between 1933 and 1938."
> "A host of economic side effects surfaced. After suspending what remain of the gold standard, Nazi Germany pressured its central bank to keep interest rates low and government budget deficits high, causing the economy to overheat and triggering higher prices. By November 1936, the Nazi regime issued a price stop decree that prohibited increases in prices and wages. Despite the fact that more waves of inflation continued to occur, prices were still kept artificially low."
Source: Killing History
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This source makes it clear that the Germans did not plan to replace the Soviet state with a "nationalist" one, in fact they explicitly state here that they wanted to avoid that because a nationalist resurgent Russia could threaten German hegemony in the future. They said their aim was to install a socialist puppet state dependent on them, in other words the same damn thing as before.
"In late February 1941 General Georg Thomas, head of the War Economy and Armaments Office (Wehrwirtschafts- und Rรผstungsamt) submitted plans for the economic utilization of the conquered territories. Gรถring relayed Hitler's response on February 26. The Fรผhrer was in full agreement on the economic issues; Thomas was in fact appointed Gรถring's coordinator for a unified economic policy on conquered Soviet territory. Gรถring also passed on Hitler's view that in order to pacify and secure these territories for maximum exploitation, one would have to destroy communism, and that required "taking care of the Bolshevik leadership as soon as possible" (zunรคchst schnell die bolschemisti- schen Fรผhrer zu erledigen)."
"Alfred Jodl, chief of staff of the OKW, met with Hitler on March 3 to discuss the military's initial draft plan for the occupation of the Soviet Union. Hitler emphatically set out the principles upon which the plan had to be revised. This imminent campaign is more than just a battle of weapons; it also entails a conflict between two worldviews.... The Jewish-Bolshevik intelligentsia, the "suppressor" of these peoples until now, must be removed.... Moreover, we must avoid under all circumstances that in place of a Bolshevik now a nationalist Russia is allowed to emerge, which as history proves will in the end again be hostile to Germany. It is our task to construct as quickly as possible with a minimum of German military power socialist state forms that are dependent upon us. These tasks are so difficult that one can not burden the army with them."
"On March 30, 1941, Hitler addressed a gathering of some 200 military officers for two and a half hours. The signals Hitler had given to Jodl, Wagner, and Halder about the nature of the Russian campaign were now made clear to a much wider circle. Halder took extensive notes on the fateful speech: Clash of two ideologies. Crushing denunciation of Bolshevism, identified with asocial criminality. Communism is an enormous danger for our future. A communist is no comrade before or after the battle. This is a war of destruction. If we do not grasp this, we shall still beat the enemy, but 30 years later we shall again have to fight the communist foe. We do not wage war to preserve the enemy. . . .
War Against Russia. Extermination of the Bolshevist Commissars and the communist intelligentsia. The new states must be socialist, but without a new intellectual class of their own. A primitive socialist intelligentsia is all that is needed. We must fight against the poison of disintegration. This is no job for the military courts. The individual troop commanders must know the issues at stake. They must be leaders in this fight. The troops must fight back with the methods with which they are attacked. Commissars and GPU [Soviet political police] men are criminals and must be dealt with as such. This need not mean that the troops shall get out of hand. Rather, the commander must give orders that express the common feelings of his men. This will be very different from the war in the west. In the east, harshness today means lenience in the future. Commanders must make the sacrifice of overcoming their personal scruples."
Source: THE ORGINS OF THE FINAL SOLUTION, Christopher Browning
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"In late February 1941 General Georg Thomas, head of the War Economy and Armaments Office (Wehrwirtschafts- und Rรผstungsamt) submitted plans for the economic utilization of the conquered territories. Gรถring relayed Hitler's response on February 26. The Fรผhrer was in full agreement on the economic issues; Thomas was in fact appointed Gรถring's coordinator for a unified economic policy on conquered Soviet territory. Gรถring also passed on Hitler's view that in order to pacify and secure these territories for maximum exploitation, one would have to destroy communism, and that required "taking care of the Bolshevik leadership as soon as possible" (zunรคchst schnell die bolschemisti- schen Fรผhrer zu erledigen)."
"Alfred Jodl, chief of staff of the OKW, met with Hitler on March 3 to discuss the military's initial draft plan for the occupation of the Soviet Union. Hitler emphatically set out the principles upon which the plan had to be revised. This imminent campaign is more than just a battle of weapons; it also entails a conflict between two worldviews.... The Jewish-Bolshevik intelligentsia, the "suppressor" of these peoples until now, must be removed.... Moreover, we must avoid under all circumstances that in place of a Bolshevik now a nationalist Russia is allowed to emerge, which as history proves will in the end again be hostile to Germany. It is our task to construct as quickly as possible with a minimum of German military power socialist state forms that are dependent upon us. These tasks are so difficult that one can not burden the army with them."
"On March 30, 1941, Hitler addressed a gathering of some 200 military officers for two and a half hours. The signals Hitler had given to Jodl, Wagner, and Halder about the nature of the Russian campaign were now made clear to a much wider circle. Halder took extensive notes on the fateful speech: Clash of two ideologies. Crushing denunciation of Bolshevism, identified with asocial criminality. Communism is an enormous danger for our future. A communist is no comrade before or after the battle. This is a war of destruction. If we do not grasp this, we shall still beat the enemy, but 30 years later we shall again have to fight the communist foe. We do not wage war to preserve the enemy. . . .
War Against Russia. Extermination of the Bolshevist Commissars and the communist intelligentsia. The new states must be socialist, but without a new intellectual class of their own. A primitive socialist intelligentsia is all that is needed. We must fight against the poison of disintegration. This is no job for the military courts. The individual troop commanders must know the issues at stake. They must be leaders in this fight. The troops must fight back with the methods with which they are attacked. Commissars and GPU [Soviet political police] men are criminals and must be dealt with as such. This need not mean that the troops shall get out of hand. Rather, the commander must give orders that express the common feelings of his men. This will be very different from the war in the west. In the east, harshness today means lenience in the future. Commanders must make the sacrifice of overcoming their personal scruples."
Source: THE ORGINS OF THE FINAL SOLUTION, Christopher Browning
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"So it is perhaps no surprise to us that the leaders who shouted the loudest about marriage, family and women's roles failed to uphold their own rules. Almost all of the Nazi leaders chased women, cheated on their wives, and engaged in illicit relationships, including producing illegitimate children."
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