Marxists = communists with a class identity.
Fascists = communists with a national (civic) identity.
National Socialists = communists with an ethnic/racial identity.
They all want to abolish markets and establish a State-run economy, they just emphasize differently the other parts of their identity.
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Fascists = communists with a national (civic) identity.
National Socialists = communists with an ethnic/racial identity.
They all want to abolish markets and establish a State-run economy, they just emphasize differently the other parts of their identity.
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Fascist leaders admired FDR and his New Deal programs.
> The Nazi press enthusiastically hailed the early New Deal measures: America, like the Reich, had decisively broken with the "uninhibited frenzy of market speculation." The Nazi Party newspaper, the Völkischer Beobachter, "stressed 'Roosevelt's adoption of National Socialist strains of thought in his economic and social policies,' praising the president's style of leadership as being compatible with Hitler's own dictatorial Führerprinzip" (p. 190).
> Nor was Hitler himself lacking in praise for his American counterpart. He "told American ambassador William Dodd that he was 'in accord with the President in the view that the virtue of duty, readiness for sacrifice, and discipline should dominate the entire people. These moral demands which the President places before every individual citizen of the United States are also the quintessence of the German state philosophy, which finds its expression in the slogan "The Public Weal Transcends the Interest of the Individual"'" (pp. 19-20). A New Order in both countries had replaced an antiquated emphasis on rights.
> Mussolini, who did not allow his work as dictator to interrupt his prolific journalism, wrote a glowing review of Roosevelt's Looking Forward. He found "reminiscent of fascism … the principle that the state no longer leaves the economy to its own devices"; and, in another review, this time of Henry Wallace's New Frontiers, Il Duce found the Secretary of Agriculture's program similar to his own corporativism (pp. 23-24).
> Roosevelt never had much use for Hitler, but Mussolini was another matter. "'I don't mind telling you in confidence,' FDR remarked to a White House correspondent, 'that I am keeping in fairly close touch with that admirable Italian gentleman'" (p. 31). Rexford Tugwell, a leading adviser to the president, had difficulty containing his enthusiasm for Mussolini's program to modernize Italy: "It's the cleanest … most efficiently operating piece of social machinery I've ever seen. It makes me envious" (p. 32, quoting Tugwell).
https://mises.org/library/three-new-deals-why-nazis-and-fascists-loved-fdr
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> The Nazi press enthusiastically hailed the early New Deal measures: America, like the Reich, had decisively broken with the "uninhibited frenzy of market speculation." The Nazi Party newspaper, the Völkischer Beobachter, "stressed 'Roosevelt's adoption of National Socialist strains of thought in his economic and social policies,' praising the president's style of leadership as being compatible with Hitler's own dictatorial Führerprinzip" (p. 190).
> Nor was Hitler himself lacking in praise for his American counterpart. He "told American ambassador William Dodd that he was 'in accord with the President in the view that the virtue of duty, readiness for sacrifice, and discipline should dominate the entire people. These moral demands which the President places before every individual citizen of the United States are also the quintessence of the German state philosophy, which finds its expression in the slogan "The Public Weal Transcends the Interest of the Individual"'" (pp. 19-20). A New Order in both countries had replaced an antiquated emphasis on rights.
> Mussolini, who did not allow his work as dictator to interrupt his prolific journalism, wrote a glowing review of Roosevelt's Looking Forward. He found "reminiscent of fascism … the principle that the state no longer leaves the economy to its own devices"; and, in another review, this time of Henry Wallace's New Frontiers, Il Duce found the Secretary of Agriculture's program similar to his own corporativism (pp. 23-24).
> Roosevelt never had much use for Hitler, but Mussolini was another matter. "'I don't mind telling you in confidence,' FDR remarked to a White House correspondent, 'that I am keeping in fairly close touch with that admirable Italian gentleman'" (p. 31). Rexford Tugwell, a leading adviser to the president, had difficulty containing his enthusiasm for Mussolini's program to modernize Italy: "It's the cleanest … most efficiently operating piece of social machinery I've ever seen. It makes me envious" (p. 32, quoting Tugwell).
https://mises.org/library/three-new-deals-why-nazis-and-fascists-loved-fdr
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Three New Deals: Why the Nazis and Fascists Loved FDR
Critics of Roosevelt's New Deal often likened it to fascism. This was recognized to be true during the 1930s, by the New Deal's supporters as well as its opponents.
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Column from Falangist magazine, Spanish Fascism
The Right and Capital
Rightism wants to conserve the fatherland, wants to conserve unity, wants to conserve authority; but ignores the anguish of man, of the individual, of the fellow man, who doesnt have anything to eat.
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The right is the desire to maintain an economic organization even if its unjust.
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Liberal capitalism leads, neccesserally, into communism. Theres not a more sincere and deep way to avoid communism's arrival: Dismantle capitalism, have it dismantled by those who benefit from it, if they really want to stop the communist revolution from destroying the religious, spiritual and national values of tradition. If they want that, they shall help us dismantle capitalism and establish a new order.
José Antonio Primo de Rivera
The Right and Capital
Rightism wants to conserve the fatherland, wants to conserve unity, wants to conserve authority; but ignores the anguish of man, of the individual, of the fellow man, who doesnt have anything to eat.
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The right is the desire to maintain an economic organization even if its unjust.
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Liberal capitalism leads, neccesserally, into communism. Theres not a more sincere and deep way to avoid communism's arrival: Dismantle capitalism, have it dismantled by those who benefit from it, if they really want to stop the communist revolution from destroying the religious, spiritual and national values of tradition. If they want that, they shall help us dismantle capitalism and establish a new order.
José Antonio Primo de Rivera
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Column from Falangist magazine, Spanish Fascism The Right and Capital Rightism wants to conserve the fatherland, wants to conserve unity, wants to conserve authority; but ignores the anguish of man, of the individual, of the fellow man, who doesnt have anything…
This is the kind of schizo propaganda you get from fascists like Jose Antonio. What he's saying here is that to avoid communist revolution, right-wingers must cede to communist demands by "dismantling capitalism," aka embracing Communism.
He's trying to trick right-wingers into embracing Communism by adopting their social positions but selling them economic Communism via the backdoor. "The communist revolution will come if you don't embrace Communism now! To stop communism you must become a communist!"
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He's trying to trick right-wingers into embracing Communism by adopting their social positions but selling them economic Communism via the backdoor. "The communist revolution will come if you don't embrace Communism now! To stop communism you must become a communist!"
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Forwarded from Martinez Politics
Another zinger from a confused theorydork:
"Fascism is socialism... but that doesn't make it socialist"
So it's socialism but it's not socialist, but it is, but it's not, but it is. 🤥🤣
Another attempt to piss in my face and tell me it's raining. Who do these dorks think they're fooling with this tripe?
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"Fascism is socialism... but that doesn't make it socialist"
So it's socialism but it's not socialist, but it is, but it's not, but it is. 🤥🤣
Another attempt to piss in my face and tell me it's raining. Who do these dorks think they're fooling with this tripe?
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Mussolini was pro-Jewish and pro-Zionist.
An article in JTA explains:
> When Mussolini came into power, he at once realized the great asset the Jews constituted in the realms of culture, finance and politics and he exerted every effort not to antagonize the Jews. In the course of the interview between Mussolini and the Chief Rabbi of Rome, Professor Sacherdatti, which took place at that time, Mussolini declared, “Fascism has to contend with too many problems to desire to create more. For us Fascists there can be no antagonism to Jews.”
> Sporadic efforts to transplant anti-Semitism to Italy were made at the instigation of the German Hakenkreuzler and the Hungarian Awakening Magyars, as well as followers of the notorious Professor Cuza. But none of these efforts succeeded. A certain Prezioti, a fanatical nationalist, even attempted to organize a sort of anti-Semitic league and translated into Italian the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, but this man’s activities were soon brought to an end through the personal intervention of Mussolini.
> Of course the friendly attitude of the government to the Jews is due to some extent to the fact that a number of leading Jewish figures are close to Mussolini as his adherents and advisers. Among these must be mentioned especially a woman named Sarfatti, who founded the Fascist periodical “Jerarchia”; Olivetti, the president of the Society of Italian Industrialists, and Prof. Arcas, the economic theoretician and adviser of the Fascist government.
> It is interesting to note that the official organ of the government and of the Fascist party, “Popolo d’Italia,” which is edited by Mussolini’s brother, never for a moment permitted any anti-Jewish outbursts in its columns. When Dr. Weizmann visited Rome some time ago the paper published an interview with him, written in a very friendly spirit towards Zionism.
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An article in JTA explains:
> When Mussolini came into power, he at once realized the great asset the Jews constituted in the realms of culture, finance and politics and he exerted every effort not to antagonize the Jews. In the course of the interview between Mussolini and the Chief Rabbi of Rome, Professor Sacherdatti, which took place at that time, Mussolini declared, “Fascism has to contend with too many problems to desire to create more. For us Fascists there can be no antagonism to Jews.”
> Sporadic efforts to transplant anti-Semitism to Italy were made at the instigation of the German Hakenkreuzler and the Hungarian Awakening Magyars, as well as followers of the notorious Professor Cuza. But none of these efforts succeeded. A certain Prezioti, a fanatical nationalist, even attempted to organize a sort of anti-Semitic league and translated into Italian the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, but this man’s activities were soon brought to an end through the personal intervention of Mussolini.
> Of course the friendly attitude of the government to the Jews is due to some extent to the fact that a number of leading Jewish figures are close to Mussolini as his adherents and advisers. Among these must be mentioned especially a woman named Sarfatti, who founded the Fascist periodical “Jerarchia”; Olivetti, the president of the Society of Italian Industrialists, and Prof. Arcas, the economic theoretician and adviser of the Fascist government.
> It is interesting to note that the official organ of the government and of the Fascist party, “Popolo d’Italia,” which is edited by Mussolini’s brother, never for a moment permitted any anti-Jewish outbursts in its columns. When Dr. Weizmann visited Rome some time ago the paper published an interview with him, written in a very friendly spirit towards Zionism.
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Fascists when they argue with Marxists:
"We're REAL socialists just like you! Stop denying us our right to be socialists like you!"
Fascists when they argue with anti-Marxists:
"But but we're NOTHING like the Marxists because we have a national identity!"
Fascists and Marxists are two sides of the same coin.
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"We're REAL socialists just like you! Stop denying us our right to be socialists like you!"
Fascists when they argue with anti-Marxists:
"But but we're NOTHING like the Marxists because we have a national identity!"
Fascists and Marxists are two sides of the same coin.
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Forwarded from Martinez Politics
Likewise, World War II was not a battle between ideological capitalists and communists, as some misinformed amateurs suggest. It was a battle between variants of socialists (FDR, Hitler, Mussolini & Stalin were all economic socialists to varying degrees). Churchill was the only somewhat free enterprise guy among this crowd. He was the black sheep. Like the Cold War, WWII was a battle between large States and their spheres of influence, not really ideology although some of that played into it or was used rhetorically and tactically, largely in the form of democracy vs autocracy which is not econ related. Or in the case of USSR using anti-fascist rhetoric & NS Germany using anti-Bolshevik rhetoric, even though both of them were economically leftist authoritarians with more in common than separated them. It was all tactical bullshit. But even then the players involved compromised on all these principles as you saw with Germany & USSR alliance in Molotov-Ribbentrop & then later the democratic powers aligning with the autocratic USSR to defeat a common foe. Realpolitik trumps ideology in these power games.
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Extensive Nazi-Communist overlap confirmed.
Article: The impressive numbers of German communists who joined the Nazi Party
> In his memoir, "Hitler aus nächster Nähe: Aufzeichnungen eines Vertrauten 1929-1932", written in 1946, Wagener - who never denied the nazi ideology - quoted a few words pronounced by Hitler in a speech before his coming to power, and that reveal his idea about the positioning of Nazism on the political map: "we National Socialists wish precisely to attract all socialists, even the Communists; we wish to win them over from their international camp to the national one."
> The KPD strategy was much less successful than the recruitment of communist militants by the NSDAP, especially from January 1933, when Hitler took over the Chancellery. In relation to the passage of militants from the KPD to the NSDAP, historian Timothy Scott Brown collected very interesting data in his book "Weimar Radicals: Nazis and Communists between Authenticity and Performance" (Berghahn, 2009), noting on page 136 that in what as regards the SA, "it is known that a significant part of the new recruits previously belonged to the KPD."
> Scott exposes the estimates collected by Rudolf Diels, first head of the Gestapo -the political police of the Third Reich-, in his memoirs, "Lucifer Ante Portas: Von Severing bis Heydrich" (1950), pointing out that in Berlin 70% of the new recruits to the SA from January 1933 were former Communists. The most striking fact of those indicated by Diels is that in some cases, entire Rot Front units moved to the SA. According to Sven Reichardt ("Faschistische Kampfbünde. Gewalt und Gemeinschaft im italienischen Squadrismus und in der deutschen SA", Cologne, 2002), the social democrat Albert Grzesinski, head of the Berlin Police between 1930 and 1932, pointed out that 30% of the members of the SA in Berlin were ex-communists as early as 1932.
> In his book, Timothy Scott Brown also quotes the estimates of a subordinate of Diels in the Gestapo, whom he quotes as Gisevius ... noting that at least a third of the members of the SA as of 1933 were former communists. These militants were known by their companions as nazi rindersteak (Nazi beef steaks), considering them brown on the outside - in reference to the color of the SA uniform shirt - and red on the inside.
> The paradox of the German case is that many members of the KPD, the largest communist party after the Soviet at that time, ended up going from anti-fascism to nazism without major problems. A few years later, in 1939, the Nazis and Soviets ended up allying themselves to invade Poland
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Article: The impressive numbers of German communists who joined the Nazi Party
> In his memoir, "Hitler aus nächster Nähe: Aufzeichnungen eines Vertrauten 1929-1932", written in 1946, Wagener - who never denied the nazi ideology - quoted a few words pronounced by Hitler in a speech before his coming to power, and that reveal his idea about the positioning of Nazism on the political map: "we National Socialists wish precisely to attract all socialists, even the Communists; we wish to win them over from their international camp to the national one."
> The KPD strategy was much less successful than the recruitment of communist militants by the NSDAP, especially from January 1933, when Hitler took over the Chancellery. In relation to the passage of militants from the KPD to the NSDAP, historian Timothy Scott Brown collected very interesting data in his book "Weimar Radicals: Nazis and Communists between Authenticity and Performance" (Berghahn, 2009), noting on page 136 that in what as regards the SA, "it is known that a significant part of the new recruits previously belonged to the KPD."
> Scott exposes the estimates collected by Rudolf Diels, first head of the Gestapo -the political police of the Third Reich-, in his memoirs, "Lucifer Ante Portas: Von Severing bis Heydrich" (1950), pointing out that in Berlin 70% of the new recruits to the SA from January 1933 were former Communists. The most striking fact of those indicated by Diels is that in some cases, entire Rot Front units moved to the SA. According to Sven Reichardt ("Faschistische Kampfbünde. Gewalt und Gemeinschaft im italienischen Squadrismus und in der deutschen SA", Cologne, 2002), the social democrat Albert Grzesinski, head of the Berlin Police between 1930 and 1932, pointed out that 30% of the members of the SA in Berlin were ex-communists as early as 1932.
> In his book, Timothy Scott Brown also quotes the estimates of a subordinate of Diels in the Gestapo, whom he quotes as Gisevius ... noting that at least a third of the members of the SA as of 1933 were former communists. These militants were known by their companions as nazi rindersteak (Nazi beef steaks), considering them brown on the outside - in reference to the color of the SA uniform shirt - and red on the inside.
> The paradox of the German case is that many members of the KPD, the largest communist party after the Soviet at that time, ended up going from anti-fascism to nazism without major problems. A few years later, in 1939, the Nazis and Soviets ended up allying themselves to invade Poland
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The impressive numbers of German communists who joined the Nazi Party
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Beefsteak Nazism = Red Fascism/National Bolshevism.
Communism with a "national identity".
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Communism with a "national identity".
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Syndicalism and Communism are the same thing. They both aim at the abolition of free enterprise and collective worker control of the means of production.
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Forwarded from Martinez Politics
Communism is not a belief that "all cultures are equal".
It is the view that "the workers shall collectively control the means of production". The first thing would be an add-on to that, but it's not essential to being a communist. Those beliefs tend to go together but not always.
To say otherwise is a lie. I generally see fascists positing that first false made-up definition in an attempt to distance themselves from communists who they have immense similarities with. They will twist themselves into rhetorical knots trying to distinguish themselves from communists and Marxists but it's all schizo wordplay and trickery.
You can be a communist and also be anti-Semitic, racist, anti-gay or whatever. None of those views are essential or non-essential to Communism. Even Karl Marx had anti-Semitic attitudes. Does that make the godfather of Communism not a real communist?
It is the view that "the workers shall collectively control the means of production". The first thing would be an add-on to that, but it's not essential to being a communist. Those beliefs tend to go together but not always.
To say otherwise is a lie. I generally see fascists positing that first false made-up definition in an attempt to distance themselves from communists who they have immense similarities with. They will twist themselves into rhetorical knots trying to distinguish themselves from communists and Marxists but it's all schizo wordplay and trickery.
You can be a communist and also be anti-Semitic, racist, anti-gay or whatever. None of those views are essential or non-essential to Communism. Even Karl Marx had anti-Semitic attitudes. Does that make the godfather of Communism not a real communist?
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Forwarded from Exposing Hitler as Zionist
"I have learned a great deal from Marxism" he once remarked, "as I do not hesitate to admit". He was proud of a knowledge of Marxist texts acquired in his student days before the First World War and later in a Bavarian prison, in 1924, after the failure of the Munich putsch.
-Adolf Hitler quote
https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/hitler-and-the-socialist-dream-1186455.html
-Adolf Hitler quote
https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/hitler-and-the-socialist-dream-1186455.html
The Independent
Hitler and the socialist dream
He declared that 'national socialism was based on Marx' Socialists have always disowned him. But a new book insists that he was, at heart, a left-winger
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Forwarded from Martinez Politics
Hitler's National Socialism is more correctly identified as international Germanic racialism. It is not traditional nationalism because it sought to erase borders between states if there were people of Germanic racial descent living there (hence the annexations of Austria, parts of Czechoslovakia and Poland, & later the invasion of Russia to colonize some of its lands for racial expansion). It was more a form of ethnic empire-building than nationalism.
Putin is often called a nationalist by uneducated types who equate a flag and pseudo patriotism with nationalism. Putin's foreign policy and his own statements on the matter clearly prove he is not a traditional nationalist; he is an expansionist Eurasianist who believes he has the right to do away with borders and entire nation-states (like Ukraine) if they have any amount of ethnic-cultural Russians living there (or even if they don't, he will just Russify the new subjects). Unlike Hitler's imperialism, Putin's is not based on racial descent but on cultural or linguistic grounds as he considers the 300 different ethnic groups currently living in Russia equally Russians because they speak the language. It is a cultural variation of Hitler's Lebensraum.
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Putin is often called a nationalist by uneducated types who equate a flag and pseudo patriotism with nationalism. Putin's foreign policy and his own statements on the matter clearly prove he is not a traditional nationalist; he is an expansionist Eurasianist who believes he has the right to do away with borders and entire nation-states (like Ukraine) if they have any amount of ethnic-cultural Russians living there (or even if they don't, he will just Russify the new subjects). Unlike Hitler's imperialism, Putin's is not based on racial descent but on cultural or linguistic grounds as he considers the 300 different ethnic groups currently living in Russia equally Russians because they speak the language. It is a cultural variation of Hitler's Lebensraum.
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Forwarded from Martinez Politics
What fascists oppose about modern communists is not their socialism but their anti-racism, and what modern communists oppose about modern fascists is not their socialism but their racialism. But if you take away the racialism and anti-racialism on either side, they agree that the workers must be collectively put in charge of the economy.
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In a 1943 speech Hitler called for the abolition of economic classes.
"All the more so after the war, the German National Socialist state, which pursued this goal from the beginning, will tirelessly work for the realization of a program that will ultimately lead to a complete elimination of class differences and to the creation of a true socialist community." - Adolf Hitler's Speech for the Heroes' Memorial Day (1943)
How is this not Marxism?
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"All the more so after the war, the German National Socialist state, which pursued this goal from the beginning, will tirelessly work for the realization of a program that will ultimately lead to a complete elimination of class differences and to the creation of a true socialist community." - Adolf Hitler's Speech for the Heroes' Memorial Day (1943)
How is this not Marxism?
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