At the end of the war Hitler expelled both Himmler and Goering from the party as traitors.

> "Before my death, I expel former Reich Marshal Hermann Goering from the party and withdraw from him all the rights that were conferred on him by the decree of June 20, 1941 … In his place I appoint Admiral Doenitz as President of the Reich and Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces. Before my death, I expel the former Reichsfuehrer of the S.S. and the Minister of Interior Heinrich Himmler from the party and from all his state offices."

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CJB: "Both Hitler and Goebbels said that it didn't matter if the Russians won or the Germans won because either way socialism would win. At the end of the war Hitler said that the Eastern power had been the greater power so nature took its natural course and it was just that the German people be annihilated."

Wise: "National Socialism had nothing to do with Marxist Socialism... they were deadly enemies"

Very weak rebuttal there. He doesn't explain how they're so different just says they are and then goes on to equate Communism with "transgenderism and the gay movement" showing ignorance of what Communism really is: the collectivization of the means of production, which the Natsocs and Fascists did plenty of.

This is always the case with Hitlerists, they reveal a profound ignorance of the concepts they speak about. Communism = blue haired transgenders to them. So then what was Stalin who banned homosexuality? Not a communist? They try to redefine Communism as left-wing social positions undermining entirely its basis in left-wing economic policies which the Nazis shared as fellow socialists.

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The Nazis kept the Soviet collective farm model in place when they conquered Ukraine. Further proof they were not "saving" anyone from Bolshevism but perpetuating the same system.

The propaganda said this:

> "Before the invasion, the Nazis had professed very different intentions. They were going to "liberate" the Ukraine from the double yoke of Russia and Bolshevism. They were going to set up an independent Ukrainian state and restore the former landlords to their possessions."

But the reality was this:

> "Instead of the "Greater Ukraine" which the Nazis had promised to set up by uniting Ruthenia and Eastern Galicia with the Soviet Ukraine, the Ukrainians saw the former division of their national territory carried still further and apparently perpetuated. Eastern Galicia was incorporated into the Polish Gouvernement General; Ruthenia (Sub-Carpathia) remained in the hands of Hungary; part of the Black Sea coast, including Odessa, was promised, if not actually turned over, to the Rumanians; while the rest of the Soviet Ukraine, now called Reichskommissariat Ukraine, was placed under the jurisdiction of Erich Koch, Gauleiter and Governor of East Prussia. The dream of a united and independent Ukraine was gone."

> "Thus far the Germans have introduced only minor changes, for the sake of efficiency, in the agricultural system. Contrary to expectations, the collective farms have not been abolished, but their managers have been replaced with German commissars or former Ukrainian émigrés."

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Your average 4chan neo-nazi has no clue what Communism is. He thinks it's a transgender person with blue hair. No, it's the communalization of all land, property and private business into collective (state) control. He either doesn't know that, or he is trying to purposely redefine it as this other unrelated thing, in order to obscure the fact that he also believes in the communalization of all land, property and private business.... but within one ethnic or racial group. It's multi-racial vs racially exclusive socialism, that's all.

Chapter 14 of MK explicitly lays out Hitler's plan to conquer soil "by the sword" in "Russia and its borderlands":

"Therefore the only possibility that Germany had to conduct a sound territorial policy was to acquire new territory in Europe itself. Colonies cannot serve this purpose, since they aren't suited for large-scale European settlement. From the 19" century on, it was no longer possible to peacefully acquire such colonies. Therefore any attempt at such a colonial expansion would have meant an enormous military struggle. Thus it was more practical to undertake that military struggle for new territory in Europe, rather than to wage war for foreign acquisition."

> "Such a decision naturally demands the nation's undivided attention. A policy like this requires all available energy on the part of everyone concerned, and cannot be carried out by half- measures or hesitatingly. The political leadership of the German Reich should have been exclusively devoted to this goal. No step should have been taken other than one that served as a means to this end. It should have been clear that such a goal could only be reached by war; and this prospect should have been faced with calm and collected determination."

> "All alliances should have been envisioned and judged only from this standpoint. If new territory were to be acquired in Europe, it should have been mainly at Russia's expense. Once again, the new German Reich should have set out on the same road as was formerly traveled by the Teutonic Knights-this time to acquire soil for the German plow by means of the German sword, and thus provide the nation with its daily bread."

> "Therefore we National Socialists have purposely drawn a line through our pre-war conduct of foreign policy. We resume where we left off, six centuries ago. We put an end to the perpetual Germanic march towards the south and west of Europe, and turn our eyes towards the land of the East. We finally shut off the colonial—and trade-policy of pre-war times, and pass over to the land-policy of the future. But when we speak of new land and soil in Europe today, we must principally think of Russia and its subject border states."

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On the Nazis' vitriolic anti-Slavic sentiment:

> "Hitler's conception of the Aryan Herrenvolk ("Aryan master race") explicitly excluded the vast majority of Slavs, regarding the Slavs as having dangerous Jewish and Asiatic influences. Because of this, the Nazis declared Slavs to be Untermenschen (subhumans). Exceptions were made for a small percentage of Slavs who were seen by the Nazis to be descended from German settlers and therefore fit to be Germanised to be considered part of the Aryan master race. Hitler described Slavs as "a mass of born slaves who feel the need of a master". Hitler declared that because Slavs were subhumans that the Geneva Conventions were not applicable to them, and German soldiers in World War II were thus permitted to ignore the Geneva Conventions in regards to Slavs. Hitler called Slavs "a rabbit family" meaning they were intrinsically idle and disorganized."

> "Nazi Germany's propaganda minister Joseph Goebbels had media speak of Slavs as primitive animals who were from the Siberian tundra who were like a "dark wave of filth". The Nazi notion of Slavs being inferior non-Aryans was part of the agenda for creating Lebensraum ("living space") for Germans and other Germanic people in eastern Europe that was initiated during World War II under Generalplan Ost: millions of Germans and other Germanic settlers would be moved into conquered territories of Eastern Europe, while the original Slavic inhabitants were to be annihilated, removed, or enslaved."

> "Nazi Germany's ally the Independent State of Croatia rejected the common conception that Croats were primarily a Slavic people and claimed that Croats were primarily the descendents of the Germanic Goths. However the Nazi regime continued to classify Croats as a"subhuman" in spite of the alliance. Nazi Germany's policy changed towards Slavs in response to military manpower shortages, in which it accepted Slavs to serve in its armed forces within occupied territories, in spite of them being considered subhuman, as a pragmatic means to resolve such manpower shortages."

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When they deny Lebensraum, just point them to Chapter 14 of MK. It's all there.

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Bolsheviks cooperated so much with nazis that the british and the french literally planned to bomb the Soviet Union in 1940 because the Soviets were helping the nazis too much, giving them the much needed oil and signing friendship agreements (German-Soviet pact in 1939) hoping that it would cripple the soviet oil industry which was fueling the german side.

And then commies have the audacity of accusing others of being "fascists".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Pike

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> "Fascism began as a revision of Marxism by Marxists, a revision which developed in successive stages, so that these Marxists gradually stopped thinking of themselves as Marxists, and eventually stopped thinking of themselves as socialists. They never stopped thinking of themselves as anti-liberal revolutionaries." - "The Mystery of Fascism," David Ramsay Steele

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Jose Antonio on the Falange's aesthetics:

> blue shirt symbolizes the "proletariat"
> black and red flag mimics the "anarchist trade unions"
> hijacked the word "comrade" from the communists

So he essentially replicated and appropriated everything from the radical Marxist left. Because that's what he was.

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Fascists are thus crypto-communists who are using word tricks and sophistry to get you onside with Communism. Always been the case and still is today.

Fascists wanted the same socialist State system as the Marxists but without a bloody revolution and civil war like happened in Russia. So they chose to implement their socialism incrementally instead of all in one go.

> "Nonetheless, Mussolini remained dedicated to his heretical version of Marxism. According to English historian Paul Johnson, "Mussolini was a reluctant fascist because, underneath, he remained a Marxist, albeit a heretical one." Johnson also depicted fascism as "a Marxist heresy, indeed a modification of the Leninist heresy itself."

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Communists and fascists behave like street gangs fighting over turf.

> "The champions of communism and nationalistic socialism conducted themselves as ideological brothers, competing for power as though they were members of different organized-crime families. In essence, Communists and National Socialists, like many collectivists, behave like street gangs who compete for authority over territory and power, differing little from the rivalry found between the Bloods and the Crips, in the inner cities of America."

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