The Nazis merely used the Ukrainian nationalists as cannon fodder to help them fight the Soviets and then discarded them in the trash when their usefulness expired. Hitler intended to colonize Ukrainian land for Lebensraum.

> "Bandera was in occupied Poland when on June 30, 1941, his comrades proclaimed an independent Ukrainian state in Nazi-occupied Lviv — and the Germans banned him from traveling to Ukraine. Adolf Hitler rejected the idea of Ukrainian independence, and Bandera was arrested and imprisoned in Sachsenhausen concentration camp until 1944. The OUN-B continued to fight for independence in Ukraine with the help of its military arm, the Ukrainian Insurgent Army. The Nazis and the Soviets persecuted and killed OUN-B fighters. After the war, Bandera lived in Munich until he was killed in 1959 by a KGB agent using cyanide." - Source

> ""Eight days after Germany's invasion of the USSR, on 30 June 1941, the OUN-B proclaimed the establishment of Ukrainian State in Lviv, with Yaroslav Stetsko as premier. In response to the declaration, OUN-B leaders and associates were arrested and imprisoned by the Gestapo (ca.1500 persons).[79] Many OUN-B members were killed outright or perished in jails and concentration camps (both of Bandera's brothers were eventually murdered at Auschwitz). On 18 September 1941 Bandera and Stetsko were sent to Sachsenhausen concentration camp in "Zellenbau Bunker", where they were kept until September 1944." - Source

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Debunking hoax quotes from Churchill.

Not a defense of Churchill but these quotes they throw out there are mostly fake.

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Nazi Germany called the Ukrainian nationalist OUN a "tool of Jewish Bolshevism" and arrested their leaders to deny them an independent state.

The real "tool of Jewish Bolshevism" was Hitler who was himself a Bolshevik who admired Stalin, collaborated with Stalin and attended the funeral of Jewish Bolshevik Kurt Eisner and worked for the short-lived communist enclave the Bavarian Soviet Republic.

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It makes no sense for Ukrainians to be Natsocs because Hitler despised Slavs and explicitly opposed Ukrainian state-hood because he wanted to colonize their lands for German racial expansion. He appointed Erich Koch to rule over the occupied Ukrainian territories during the war. According to David Irving, Koch's duty was to:

"squeeze every ton of grain and every slave labourer he could out of the region"

And that Hitler:

"angrily told Zeitzler that to let the Ukrainians set up their own government would be tantamount to throwing away the Nazis' entire war aim"

Koch apparently said this:
"If I find a Ukrainian fit to sit at my table I must shoot him!"

https://t.me/redideologies/111

Founders of the DAP, precursor to the NSDAP, Drexler and Harrer were not Nordic looking at all.

The Nordicism of the party was rooted more in fantasy and mysticism than reality.

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The similarities between Soviet Socialism and National Socialism are undeniable.

NS = Germanic in-group Communism.

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Most neo-nazis have never read Mein Kampf all the way through. They're meme-nazis who watched the amateur TGSNT and believed every word of it. They don't even know the most basic facts about the ideology they profess.

Hitler had a deep hatred for the Noble Pre-Christian Germans.

From: Greeks, Romans, Germans How the Nazis Usurped Europe’s Classical Past, Johann Chapoutot

>Hitler found the unrestrained celebration of Germanentum on the part of Himmler and the SS to be so irritating. Indeed, he displayed a vicious wit in making fun of their Germanophilia, which he ridiculed in both public and private, chiding them for their love of crude, retrograde folklore that glorified a group of primitive idiots. In one of his public speeches, dripping with sarcasm, he declared he had no desire to take up “a bearskin to retrace the path of Germanic migrations”: “We are National Socialists, and we have nothing in common with this Völkisch idea . . . nor with petit-bourgeois Völkisch kitsch, or with heavy beards and long hair. We have all cut our hair quite short.” Long hair equaled savagery; the shaved heads of the Romans and the SA equaled civilization
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Hitler thus echoed, in private as in public, the most humiliating prejudices about the early Germans
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Hitler completely discounted the reactionary views of the SS, which attempted to resurrect Germanic cults, customs, and traditions, following Himmler’s lead. Not only were these cults and traditions culturally the equivalent of the Maoris’ gris-gris, but they had naturally disappeared over time because they were destined to perish: “It seems to me that nothing would be more foolish than to re-establish the worship of Wotan. Our old mythology had ceased to be viable when Christianity implanted itself. Nothing dies unless it is moribund. . . . It’s not desirable that the whole of humanity should be stultified.”

Talk about micro-managing. They told hotels whether or not they could serve jam for breakfast. I don't even think the Soviets were this autistic.

> "Despite the wage controls, private consumption had to rise as unemployment decreased.38 As this began to occur, representatives from the Labor Front voiced their concern that workers were unhappy that price increases in consumer goods were not met with wage increases. In 1936 the problem worried the Nazis enough that they created the Office for Price Formation, which audited consumer businesses and told them what to charge for their products.39 Oversight was so strict that the Reich even regulated whether certain hotels could give jam with breakfast.40 Naturally, the Nazis granted more profitable price structures to companies that produced more rearmament goods.41 Harsh punishments for evading the Nazis regulations, including execution, prevented the formation of large black markets. The Office for Price Formation is yet another example of how the Nazis manipulated the free market to encourage businesses to reduce their production of luxury goods and instead focus on goods necessary for autarky."

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National Socialists and Fascists can't be against Bolshevism because they all want the same thing: communalization of all property and people. They go about doing this with different methods but pursue the same end goal.

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TGSNT Debunked https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_9vf64XXJ0

At the end of the war Hitler expelled both Himmler and Goering from the party as traitors.

> "Before my death, I expel former Reich Marshal Hermann Goering from the party and withdraw from him all the rights that were conferred on him by the decree of June 20, 1941 … In his place I appoint Admiral Doenitz as President of the Reich and Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces. Before my death, I expel the former Reichsfuehrer of the S.S. and the Minister of Interior Heinrich Himmler from the party and from all his state offices."

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CJB: "Both Hitler and Goebbels said that it didn't matter if the Russians won or the Germans won because either way socialism would win. At the end of the war Hitler said that the Eastern power had been the greater power so nature took its natural course and it was just that the German people be annihilated."

Wise: "National Socialism had nothing to do with Marxist Socialism... they were deadly enemies"

Very weak rebuttal there. He doesn't explain how they're so different just says they are and then goes on to equate Communism with "transgenderism and the gay movement" showing ignorance of what Communism really is: the collectivization of the means of production, which the Natsocs and Fascists did plenty of.

This is always the case with Hitlerists, they reveal a profound ignorance of the concepts they speak about. Communism = blue haired transgenders to them. So then what was Stalin who banned homosexuality? Not a communist? They try to redefine Communism as left-wing social positions undermining entirely its basis in left-wing economic policies which the Nazis shared as fellow socialists.

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The Nazis kept the Soviet collective farm model in place when they conquered Ukraine. Further proof they were not "saving" anyone from Bolshevism but perpetuating the same system.

The propaganda said this:

> "Before the invasion, the Nazis had professed very different intentions. They were going to "liberate" the Ukraine from the double yoke of Russia and Bolshevism. They were going to set up an independent Ukrainian state and restore the former landlords to their possessions."

But the reality was this:

> "Instead of the "Greater Ukraine" which the Nazis had promised to set up by uniting Ruthenia and Eastern Galicia with the Soviet Ukraine, the Ukrainians saw the former division of their national territory carried still further and apparently perpetuated. Eastern Galicia was incorporated into the Polish Gouvernement General; Ruthenia (Sub-Carpathia) remained in the hands of Hungary; part of the Black Sea coast, including Odessa, was promised, if not actually turned over, to the Rumanians; while the rest of the Soviet Ukraine, now called Reichskommissariat Ukraine, was placed under the jurisdiction of Erich Koch, Gauleiter and Governor of East Prussia. The dream of a united and independent Ukraine was gone."

> "Thus far the Germans have introduced only minor changes, for the sake of efficiency, in the agricultural system. Contrary to expectations, the collective farms have not been abolished, but their managers have been replaced with German commissars or former Ukrainian émigrés."

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Your average 4chan neo-nazi has no clue what Communism is. He thinks it's a transgender person with blue hair. No, it's the communalization of all land, property and private business into collective (state) control. He either doesn't know that, or he is trying to purposely redefine it as this other unrelated thing, in order to obscure the fact that he also believes in the communalization of all land, property and private business.... but within one ethnic or racial group. It's multi-racial vs racially exclusive socialism, that's all.