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Rosenberg admits at Nuremberg the plan for Ukraine and the East in general: acquisition of their land for German settlement/expansion and exploitation of their labor. He says that while in Germany top officials publicly declared their contempt of the "inferior" Eastern Slavs, it was unwise to publicly declare such things in the East to not agitate their subjects.
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MR. DODD: All right, I accept your interpretation; we won't have any trouble about that. Now, will you please look at this document? This is a memorandum found in your files, for your information.
ROSENBERG: Yes.
MR. DODD: You set out there, in the second paragraph, what you call the aim of German politics, notably in the Ukraine, as having been laid down by the Fuehrer. They are, you say, exploitation and mobilization of raw materials, a German settlement in certain regions, no artificial education of the population towards intellectualism, but the preservation of their labor strength; apart from that, an extensive unconcern with the interior affairs.
Then, moving down a little bit-because I don't think it is necessary to read all of it, much of it has been referred to in another document-we come down to the 12th line from the bottom of that paragraph. Beginning at the 14th line:
"After continuous observation of the state of affairs in the Occupied Eastern Territories, I am convinced that German politics may have their own, possibly contemptuous opinion of the qualities of the conquered peoples, but that it is not the mission of German political representatives to proclaim measures and opinions which could eventually reduce the conquered peoples to dull despair instead of promoting the desired utilization of manpower to capacity."
Then, in the next paragraph, you say:
"If at home we had to announce our aims to the whole nation most openly and aggressively, in contrast to the others, the political leaders in the East must remain silent where German policy calls for necessary harshness. They must remain silent as to any derogatory opinions which they may form about the conquered peoples. Yes, a clever German policy may in certain circumstances do more in the German interest through alleviations which do not affect policy and certain humane concessions, than through open, inconsiderate brutality."
Were you honestly expressing your views when you wrote that memorandum on the 16th of March 1942?
ROSENBERG: This document is correct.
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MR. DODD: All right, I accept your interpretation; we won't have any trouble about that. Now, will you please look at this document? This is a memorandum found in your files, for your information.
ROSENBERG: Yes.
MR. DODD: You set out there, in the second paragraph, what you call the aim of German politics, notably in the Ukraine, as having been laid down by the Fuehrer. They are, you say, exploitation and mobilization of raw materials, a German settlement in certain regions, no artificial education of the population towards intellectualism, but the preservation of their labor strength; apart from that, an extensive unconcern with the interior affairs.
Then, moving down a little bit-because I don't think it is necessary to read all of it, much of it has been referred to in another document-we come down to the 12th line from the bottom of that paragraph. Beginning at the 14th line:
"After continuous observation of the state of affairs in the Occupied Eastern Territories, I am convinced that German politics may have their own, possibly contemptuous opinion of the qualities of the conquered peoples, but that it is not the mission of German political representatives to proclaim measures and opinions which could eventually reduce the conquered peoples to dull despair instead of promoting the desired utilization of manpower to capacity."
Then, in the next paragraph, you say:
"If at home we had to announce our aims to the whole nation most openly and aggressively, in contrast to the others, the political leaders in the East must remain silent where German policy calls for necessary harshness. They must remain silent as to any derogatory opinions which they may form about the conquered peoples. Yes, a clever German policy may in certain circumstances do more in the German interest through alleviations which do not affect policy and certain humane concessions, than through open, inconsiderate brutality."
Were you honestly expressing your views when you wrote that memorandum on the 16th of March 1942?
ROSENBERG: This document is correct.
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The Nazis kept the Soviet collective farm model in place when they conquered Ukraine. Further proof they were not "saving" anyone from Bolshevism but perpetuating the same system.
The propaganda said this:
> "Before the invasion, the Nazis had professed very different intentions. They were going to "liberate" the Ukraine from the double yoke of Russia and Bolshevism. They were going to set up an independent Ukrainian state and restore the former landlords to their possessions."
But the reality was this:
> "Instead of the "Greater Ukraine" which the Nazis had promised to set up by uniting Ruthenia and Eastern Galicia with the Soviet Ukraine, the Ukrainians saw the former division of their national territory carried still further and apparently perpetuated. Eastern Galicia was incorporated into the Polish Gouvernement General; Ruthenia (Sub-Carpathia) remained in the hands of Hungary; part of the Black Sea coast, including Odessa, was promised, if not actually turned over, to the Rumanians; while the rest of the Soviet Ukraine, now called Reichskommissariat Ukraine, was placed under the jurisdiction of Erich Koch, Gauleiter and Governor of East Prussia. The dream of a united and independent Ukraine was gone."
> "Thus far the Germans have introduced only minor changes, for the sake of efficiency, in the agricultural system. Contrary to expectations, the collective farms have not been abolished, but their managers have been replaced with German commissars or former Ukrainian émigrés."
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The propaganda said this:
> "Before the invasion, the Nazis had professed very different intentions. They were going to "liberate" the Ukraine from the double yoke of Russia and Bolshevism. They were going to set up an independent Ukrainian state and restore the former landlords to their possessions."
But the reality was this:
> "Instead of the "Greater Ukraine" which the Nazis had promised to set up by uniting Ruthenia and Eastern Galicia with the Soviet Ukraine, the Ukrainians saw the former division of their national territory carried still further and apparently perpetuated. Eastern Galicia was incorporated into the Polish Gouvernement General; Ruthenia (Sub-Carpathia) remained in the hands of Hungary; part of the Black Sea coast, including Odessa, was promised, if not actually turned over, to the Rumanians; while the rest of the Soviet Ukraine, now called Reichskommissariat Ukraine, was placed under the jurisdiction of Erich Koch, Gauleiter and Governor of East Prussia. The dream of a united and independent Ukraine was gone."
> "Thus far the Germans have introduced only minor changes, for the sake of efficiency, in the agricultural system. Contrary to expectations, the collective farms have not been abolished, but their managers have been replaced with German commissars or former Ukrainian émigrés."
Source
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British fascist Oswald Mosley was a member of the socialist Fabian Society, an MP for the socialist Labour Party, and said of himself: "I am not, and have never been, a man of the right. My position was on the left and is now in the center of politics."
He was also friends with FDR.
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He was also friends with FDR.
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Leon Degrelle was a traitor to Belgium. A quisling collaborator with the German occupation authorities who then was a key figure recruiting cannon fodder for Hitler's war of expansion in the East.
In what world is a "nationalist" some guy who betrays his country to foreign occupiers?
Like communists, fascists are not loyal to nation, they're loyal to whichever foreign power most closely resembles their political views.
In what world is a "nationalist" some guy who betrays his country to foreign occupiers?
Like communists, fascists are not loyal to nation, they're loyal to whichever foreign power most closely resembles their political views.
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Forwarded from Martinez Politics
"We're not communists...we just want to socialize the means of production while being racist"
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Hitler defends the burning of nuns and priests in Spain during the civil war, claiming that "they (Reds) are doing what they have to."
~ Alfred Rosenberg, Diary Entry on November 22, 1936
The Führer spoke wonderfully [at Gau Amtleiter conference at Vogelsang Castle] - and clearly at the end: monarchy and churches had failed. Everywhere: in Russia, in Germany, in Spain. Yes, in their opposition to racial hygiene they had bred inferiority. If these animals are now burning priests in Spain, they are doing what they have to. But that they became like this is the fault of the powers that ruled Spain: the monarchy and the church. Once upon a time, Christianity was a common sentiment. However, it had been brought in from outside and then disintegrated into many denominations. It had also become associated with scientific dogmas, which in themselves had nothing to do with religion. As science progressed, the Church was faced with the question of correcting itself or sticking to the dogma. It chose the latter with the result that many fell away from it. Today it resists racial knowledge, but we will not depart from it. “All the churches, all Christianity,” said the Führer, “is incapable of fighting Bolshevism, a new world outlook must do that.”
~ Alfred Rosenberg, Diary Entry on November 22, 1936
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"Personally, I believe that in the long run — and this brings me back to the Slavs — that in the long run, the Slavic peoples will not be able to create a culture, a culture that leads further forward. There will always be individual great dictators and great leaders, military leaders, as we know them in history; whether they were called Attila — whose real name we do not know at all — or whether they were called Genghis Khan, or Tamerlan (Timur), or whether they were Magyar kings, or whether it was once a Mr. Lenin or a Mr. Stalin; These are isolated occurrences where, through a happy pairing, a happy encounter — unfortunate for us Europeans, of course — components came together that made it possible to lead. But the moment such a phenomenon is over, the Slav instantly becomes what he always was: a people who cannot control themselves, eternally scheming."
— Heinrich Himmler.
— Heinrich Himmler.
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"We emphasize the term “socialist” because many speak only of a “national” revolution. Dubious, but also wrong. It was not only nationalism that led to the breakthrough. We are proud that German socialism also triumphed. Unfortunately, there are still people among us today who emphasize the word “national” too strongly and who do not want to know anything about the second part of our worldview, which shows that they have also failed to understand the first part. Those who do not want to recognize a German socialism do not have the right to call themselves national. Only he who emphasizes German socialism is truly national." - Hermann Goering, Nationalism & Socialism, 1933
Nazis were hardcore economic socialists.
Nazis were hardcore economic socialists.
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Forwarded from Red Ideologies
Goebbels' Marxism on full display here.
"greedy love of wealth, excluding thereby 17 million German proletarians"
"Seventeen million people see class struggle as their only hope"
"we don't have the moral right to complain against proletarian class struggle.. [until we] thoroughly destroy the bourgeois class state and replace it with a new socialist structure"
In typical sneaky Goebbels fashion he employs bafflegab to confuse the reader. He says he's "against the idea of class struggle" and then affirms class struggle in the very next sentences, calling for Marxist class warfare against the state, the wealthy, etc.
Goebbels was a crypto-Marxist who hid his Marxism behind a veneer of ethno-centrism.
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"greedy love of wealth, excluding thereby 17 million German proletarians"
"Seventeen million people see class struggle as their only hope"
"we don't have the moral right to complain against proletarian class struggle.. [until we] thoroughly destroy the bourgeois class state and replace it with a new socialist structure"
In typical sneaky Goebbels fashion he employs bafflegab to confuse the reader. He says he's "against the idea of class struggle" and then affirms class struggle in the very next sentences, calling for Marxist class warfare against the state, the wealthy, etc.
Goebbels was a crypto-Marxist who hid his Marxism behind a veneer of ethno-centrism.
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Alfred Rosenberg said the following:
"Mixing Nordics with Eastern Europeans is very harmful"
"The sources of NORDIC strength must be brought alive again"
"Germans have 'greater breadth of mind' than Czechs"
"Nordic Europe will be the watchword of the future along with a German central Europe... Germany will be the central power of the continent"
All Nordicism, relegating non-"Nordics" to subservient status under Germanics.
"Mixing Nordics with Eastern Europeans is very harmful"
"The sources of NORDIC strength must be brought alive again"
"Germans have 'greater breadth of mind' than Czechs"
"Nordic Europe will be the watchword of the future along with a German central Europe... Germany will be the central power of the continent"
All Nordicism, relegating non-"Nordics" to subservient status under Germanics.
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“Stalin does not want war. His demands are natural and reasonable. They concern areas which were formerly Russian…the Finns should have accepted his proposals—then they would have avoided all the war and destruction.”
—Adolf Hitler
So Hitler approved of Stalin's invasion of Finland and blamed Finland for not ceding to Stalin's demands.
Red Bolsheviks together forever!☠️ ☠️
—Adolf Hitler
So Hitler approved of Stalin's invasion of Finland and blamed Finland for not ceding to Stalin's demands.
Red Bolsheviks together forever!
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Avi Yemeni actually poses a good question to fake pro-White Tom Sewell: How many White people did Hitler kill?
Tens of millions.
Sewell copes with this fact by inventing the fiction that Hitler fought for "White living space". If that were so, why did he murder other White people to get this living space? Wouldn't he just encourage Germans to mix with these other White people and live in harmony? That's not what he did.
No, it was about GERMANIC living space, not "White". He's playing games with words to confuse the audience about what Hitler truly represented: Germanic supremacy, NOT White unity.
P.S. Lenin wasn't a Jew, nor was Stalin, and Stalin signed a deal with Hitler (Molotov-Ribbentrop) which debunks the "Jews controlled USSR" during WW2 myth.
Tens of millions.
Sewell copes with this fact by inventing the fiction that Hitler fought for "White living space". If that were so, why did he murder other White people to get this living space? Wouldn't he just encourage Germans to mix with these other White people and live in harmony? That's not what he did.
No, it was about GERMANIC living space, not "White". He's playing games with words to confuse the audience about what Hitler truly represented: Germanic supremacy, NOT White unity.
P.S. Lenin wasn't a Jew, nor was Stalin, and Stalin signed a deal with Hitler (Molotov-Ribbentrop) which debunks the "Jews controlled USSR" during WW2 myth.
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"No no no we're not communists, we hate communism!!... btw we're totally against CAPITALISM and support SOCIALISM though!"
These natsucks are such shapeshifting schizos. Their ideology has fucked their brains with all the bafflegab.
These natsucks are such shapeshifting schizos. Their ideology has fucked their brains with all the bafflegab.
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Forwarded from Debunking Zoomer Historian
The information that Zoomer historian deliberately omits from his "The Complete Life of Pope Pius XII" video.
Zoomer historian uses sources cited in his video, like Frank Coppa's The Life and Pontificate of Pope Pius XII and John Cornwell's Hitler's Pope and David Kertzer's
The Pope at War
Pope Pius XII is portrayed by Zoomerhistorian as being pro-Nazi and never admits that Catholic institutions were mistreated in Nazi Germany.
ZH even claims @38:59 "for months Allied propaganda had claimed that the Germans were persecuting Catholics and the papacy yet when they arrived in the city Robert Murphy America's Chief Diplomat reported back to Washington quote so far no evidence has been obtained in Rome of Oppression and persecution of Roman Catholic Church "
This was not the case, as evidenced by the following quotes from the same source, "The Pope at War - David Kertzer".
> After welcoming von Hessen, the pope took out a copy of the letter he had sent Hitler shortly after his election as pope two months earlier. He read it aloud to the prince, then read Hitler’s reply.
“I have been very considerate, and the Reich Chancellor’s reply was very kind,” said the pope on finishing his reading. “But the situation has since deteriorated.” By way of example, he cited the closing of Catholic schools and seminaries, the publication of books attacking the church and the papacy, and the slashing of state funds benefiting the church in Austria. He told the prince he was eager to reach an agreement with the Reich and was ready to compromise insofar as his conscience allowed, “but for that to happen, there must before anything else be a truce…. I am certain that if peace between church and state is restored, everyone will be pleased. The German people are united in their love for the Fatherland. Once we have peace, the Catholics will be loyal, more than anyone else.”
~ The Pope at War (David Kertzer)
>"the pope acknowledged, the results of his efforts had thus far been disappointing. The religious situation in Germany hadn’t changed, although there were some bright spots, as the treatment of the church in the German press had improved. None of this was to say he had any faith in Hitler. That faith had long been undermined by the Führer’s failure to observe the terms of the concordat that the pope himself, then the Vatican secretary of state, had negotiated shortly after Hitler came to power."
~ The Pope at War - David Kertzer
> "Von Hessen asked if the pope was willing to put the church’s commitment to stay out of politics in writing.
The problem, replied Pius XII, evading the question, was to be clear what was meant by “politics.” Religious education of the young, for example, should not be considered political."
~ The Pope at War - David Kertzer
Zoomer historian uses sources cited in his video, like Frank Coppa's The Life and Pontificate of Pope Pius XII and John Cornwell's Hitler's Pope and David Kertzer's
The Pope at War
Pope Pius XII is portrayed by Zoomerhistorian as being pro-Nazi and never admits that Catholic institutions were mistreated in Nazi Germany.
ZH even claims @38:59 "for months Allied propaganda had claimed that the Germans were persecuting Catholics and the papacy yet when they arrived in the city Robert Murphy America's Chief Diplomat reported back to Washington quote so far no evidence has been obtained in Rome of Oppression and persecution of Roman Catholic Church "
This was not the case, as evidenced by the following quotes from the same source, "The Pope at War - David Kertzer".
> After welcoming von Hessen, the pope took out a copy of the letter he had sent Hitler shortly after his election as pope two months earlier. He read it aloud to the prince, then read Hitler’s reply.
“I have been very considerate, and the Reich Chancellor’s reply was very kind,” said the pope on finishing his reading. “But the situation has since deteriorated.” By way of example, he cited the closing of Catholic schools and seminaries, the publication of books attacking the church and the papacy, and the slashing of state funds benefiting the church in Austria. He told the prince he was eager to reach an agreement with the Reich and was ready to compromise insofar as his conscience allowed, “but for that to happen, there must before anything else be a truce…. I am certain that if peace between church and state is restored, everyone will be pleased. The German people are united in their love for the Fatherland. Once we have peace, the Catholics will be loyal, more than anyone else.”
~ The Pope at War (David Kertzer)
>"the pope acknowledged, the results of his efforts had thus far been disappointing. The religious situation in Germany hadn’t changed, although there were some bright spots, as the treatment of the church in the German press had improved. None of this was to say he had any faith in Hitler. That faith had long been undermined by the Führer’s failure to observe the terms of the concordat that the pope himself, then the Vatican secretary of state, had negotiated shortly after Hitler came to power."
~ The Pope at War - David Kertzer
> "Von Hessen asked if the pope was willing to put the church’s commitment to stay out of politics in writing.
The problem, replied Pius XII, evading the question, was to be clear what was meant by “politics.” Religious education of the young, for example, should not be considered political."
~ The Pope at War - David Kertzer
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The Complete Life of Pope Pius XII
Pope Pius XII has been described as 'Hitler's Pope' by many and as the complete opposite by others. He has been called a traditionalist and he has been called a modernist. But where did Pope Pius XII really stand during the act of European suicide that was…
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