If you are a Protestant and look at the veneration given to the Theotokos and think that it is in anyway comparable to the adoration owed to God alone; then your concern should be over a deficiency of worship on your part towards God, not an excess of veneration on our part towards the Blessed Virgin. We give hyperdulia to the Virgin Mary, dulia to the saints, and latria to God alone. Big difference you bunch of Heretics. The Holy Sacrifice of the Mass is the highest form of worship. You really can't claim to give God His due without it.
"๐๐๐๐ง๐ ๐๐จ ๐ฃ๐ค ๐ฅ๐ก๐๐๐ ๐๐ฃ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ฃ ๐๐๐จ๐๐๐จ๐ข ๐๐ค๐ง ๐๐ฃ ๐๐ฉ๐๐๐๐จ๐ฉ๐๐ ๐๐ค๐ฃ๐๐๐ฅ๐ฉ๐๐ค๐ฃ ๐ค๐ ๐ฉ๐๐ ๐๐ฃ๐๐ซ๐๐ง๐จ๐, ๐ฐ๐ณ ๐ง๐ฐ๐ณ ๐ข๐ฏ๐บ ๐ฐ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ๐ณ ๐ค๐ฐ๐ฏ๐ค๐ฆ๐ฑ๐ต๐ช๐ฐ๐ฏ ๐ฅ๐ฆ๐ณ๐ช๐ท๐ฆ๐ฅ ๐ต๐ฉ๐ณ๐ฐ๐ถ๐จ๐ฉ ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ ๐ข๐ฏ๐ข๐ญ๐บ๐ต๐ช๐ค๐ข๐ญ ๐ฑ๐ฐ๐ธ๐ฆ๐ณ๐ด ๐ฐ๐ง ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ ๐ฎ๐ช๐ฏ๐ฅ ... ๐๐ฆ ๐ฎ๐ถ๐ด๐ต ๐ฏ๐ฐ๐ต ๐ง๐ฐ๐ณ๐จ๐ฆ๐ต ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ ๐ธ๐ฐ๐ณ๐ฅ๐ด ๐ฐ๐ง ๐๐ฆ๐ฏ๐ต๐ช๐ญ๐ฆ: โ๐ผ๐ฃ ๐๐ง๐ง๐๐ก๐๐๐๐ค๐ช๐จ ๐๐ฉ๐๐ฉ๐ ๐๐จ ๐ฃ๐ค๐ฉ ๐ ๐๐ฉ๐๐ฉ๐ ๐๐ฉ ๐๐ก๐กโ ... ๐๐ถ๐ต ๐ฉ๐๐ ๐๐๐จ๐๐๐จ๐ฉ ๐๐ฉ๐๐ฉ๐ ๐๐จ ๐ฏ๐ฐ๐ต ๐ฐ๐ฏ๐ญ๐บ ๐ฑ๐ณ๐ฆ-๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ช๐ฏ๐ฆ๐ฏ๐ต๐ญ๐บ ๐ณ๐ฆ๐ญ๐ช๐จ๐ช๐ฐ๐ถ๐ด, ๐ช๐ต ๐ช๐ด, ๐ง๐ถ๐ณ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ๐ณ๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ณ๐ฆ, ๐ฅ๐๐ง๐ฉ๐๐๐ช๐ก๐๐ง๐ก๐ฎ ๐พ๐๐ฉ๐๐ค๐ก๐๐ ๐๐ฃ ๐ฉ๐๐ค๐ช๐๐๐ฉ ๐๐จ ๐ฌ๐๐ก๐ก ๐๐จ ๐๐ฃ ๐๐ญ๐ฅ๐๐ง๐๐๐ฃ๐๐ ... ๐๐ฏ๐ฅ, ๐ช๐ฏ ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ ๐ธ๐ฐ๐ณ๐ฅ๐ด ๐ฐ๐ง ๐๐ฆ๐ฏ๐ต๐ช๐ญ๐ฆ: โ๐๐ฉ๐ฆ ๐๐ต๐ข๐ญ๐ช๐ข๐ฏ ๐ฉ๐ข๐ด ๐ข๐ญ๐ธ๐ข๐บ๐ด ๐ฃ๐ฆ๐ฆ๐ฏ ๐๐ข๐ต๐ฉ๐ฐ๐ญ๐ช๐ค ๐ช๐ฏ ๐ฉ๐ช๐ด ๐ฑ๐ฉ๐ช๐ญ๐ฐ๐ด๐ฐ๐ฑ๐ฉ๐บ; ๐๐ข๐ต๐ฉ๐ฐ๐ญ๐ช๐ค๐ช๐ด๐ฎ ๐ฉ๐ข๐ด ๐ฃ๐ฆ๐ฆ๐ฏ ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ ๐ท๐ฆ๐ณ๐บ ๐ช๐ฏ๐ด๐ฑ๐ช๐ณ๐ข๐ต๐ช๐ฐ๐ฏ ๐ฐ๐ง ๐ฉ๐ช๐ด ๐ฑ๐ฉ๐ช๐ญ๐ฐ๐ด๐ฐ๐ฑ๐ฉ๐บ ๐ง๐ณ๐ฐ๐ฎ ๐๐ณ๐ถ๐ฏ๐ฐ ๐ข๐ฏ๐ฅ ๐๐ข๐ฎ๐ฑ๐ข๐ฏ๐ฆ๐ญ๐ญ๐ข, ๐ต๐ฐ ๐๐ช๐ค๐ฐ, ๐๐ฐ๐ด๐ฎ๐ช๐ฏ๐ช ๐ข๐ฏ๐ฅ ๐๐ช๐ฐ๐ฃ๐ฆ๐ณ๐ต๐ชโ ... ๐๐ฉ๐๐ก๐๐๐ฃ ๐๐๐จ๐๐๐จ๐ข, ๐ฉ๐๐๐ง๐๐๐ค๐ง๐, ๐ธ๐ฉ๐ช๐ค๐ฉ ๐ค๐ข๐ฏ๐ฏ๐ฐ๐ต ๐ข๐ฏ๐ฅ ๐ธ๐ช๐ญ๐ญ ๐ฏ๐ฐ๐ต ๐ณ๐ฆ๐ฑ๐ถ๐ฅ๐ช๐ข๐ต๐ฆ ๐ด๐ถ๐ค๐ฉ ๐ข ๐จ๐ญ๐ฐ๐ณ๐ช๐ฐ๐ถ๐ด ๐ฑ๐ข๐ด๐ต, ๐๐ค๐ก๐๐จ ๐ฉ๐๐๐ฉ ๐ฉ๐๐ ๐๐ง๐ค๐ฌ๐๐ฃ๐ ๐ฎ๐ค๐ช๐ฉ๐ ๐ค๐ ๐ฉ๐๐ ๐ก๐๐ฃ๐ ๐ข๐ช๐จ๐ฉ ๐ก๐๐๐ง๐ฃ ๐ฉ๐๐๐ฉ ๐๐ค๐ ๐๐ญ๐๐จ๐ฉ๐จ ๐๐ฃ๐ ๐ฉ๐๐๐ฉ ๐ฉ๐๐ ๐พ๐๐ฉ๐๐ค๐ก๐๐ ๐พ๐๐ช๐ง๐๐ ๐๐จ ๐๐๐จ ๐พ๐๐ช๐ง๐๐."
โ Mario Palmieri, ๐๐ฉ๐ฆ ๐๐ฉ๐ช๐ญ๐ฐ๐ด๐ฐ๐ฑ๐ฉ๐บ ๐ฐ๐ง ๐๐ข๐ด๐ค๐ช๐ด๐ฎ, ๐ค๐ฉ๐ข๐ฑ๐ต๐ฆ๐ณ 13 (1936)
โ Mario Palmieri, ๐๐ฉ๐ฆ ๐๐ฉ๐ช๐ญ๐ฐ๐ด๐ฐ๐ฑ๐ฉ๐บ ๐ฐ๐ง ๐๐ข๐ด๐ค๐ช๐ด๐ฎ, ๐ค๐ฉ๐ข๐ฑ๐ต๐ฆ๐ณ 13 (1936)
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Reminder, that by Christogenea standards, all these writers/writings are considered to be heretical:
โข The Didache (50-120 AD)
โข The Epistle of Barnabas (70-132 AD)
โข 2 Clement (95-140 AD)
โข Ignatius of Antioch (fl.98-117 AD)
โข The Shepherd of Hermas (100-160 AD)
โข Justin Martyr (c.100 AD - c.165 AD)
โข The Epistle of Mathetes to Diognetus (130-200 AD)
โข Irenaeus (c.130 AD - c.202 AD)
โข Athenagoras of Athens (c.133 AD - c.190 AD)
โข Theophilus of Antioch (fl.180-185 AD)
โข Clement of Alexandria (c.150 AD - c.215 AD)
โข Tertullian (c.155 AD - c.220 AD)
โข Melito of Sardis (fl.165-175 AD)
โข Hippolytus of Rome (c.170 AD - c.235 AD)
โข Origen of Alexandria (c.184 AD - c.253 AD)
โข Novatian (c.200 AD - 258 AD)
โข Cyprian of Carthage (c.210 AD - 258 AD)
โข Commodianus (fl.250 AD)
โข Methodius of Olympus (c.250 AD - c.311 AD)
But who needs these writers/writings when you have Pope Finck and his cardinals, surely they know more than all of these Ante-Nicene Christian writers/writings.
โข The Didache (50-120 AD)
โข The Epistle of Barnabas (70-132 AD)
โข 2 Clement (95-140 AD)
โข Ignatius of Antioch (fl.98-117 AD)
โข The Shepherd of Hermas (100-160 AD)
โข Justin Martyr (c.100 AD - c.165 AD)
โข The Epistle of Mathetes to Diognetus (130-200 AD)
โข Irenaeus (c.130 AD - c.202 AD)
โข Athenagoras of Athens (c.133 AD - c.190 AD)
โข Theophilus of Antioch (fl.180-185 AD)
โข Clement of Alexandria (c.150 AD - c.215 AD)
โข Tertullian (c.155 AD - c.220 AD)
โข Melito of Sardis (fl.165-175 AD)
โข Hippolytus of Rome (c.170 AD - c.235 AD)
โข Origen of Alexandria (c.184 AD - c.253 AD)
โข Novatian (c.200 AD - 258 AD)
โข Cyprian of Carthage (c.210 AD - 258 AD)
โข Commodianus (fl.250 AD)
โข Methodius of Olympus (c.250 AD - c.311 AD)
But who needs these writers/writings when you have Pope Finck and his cardinals, surely they know more than all of these Ante-Nicene Christian writers/writings.
Your "Bible" was literally compiled by a king who was a faggot. The Catholic Church already had Bibles compiled prior to the Protestant Revolt. Cope harder.
The admins at https://t.me/ChristAlone83 are a bunch of weak-ass Baptists who block anyone who calls out their nonsense.
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Latria, from greek ฮปฮฑฯฯฮตฮฏฮฑ, "adoration".
Dulia, from greek ฮดฮฟฯ ฮปฮตฮนฮฌ, "honor". The prefix hyper- denotes a greater magnitude of the succeeding term.
Additionally, the veneration due to Saint Joseph is also called "protodulia": above the regular saints, below Mary.
Dulia, from greek ฮดฮฟฯ ฮปฮตฮนฮฌ, "honor". The prefix hyper- denotes a greater magnitude of the succeeding term.
Additionally, the veneration due to Saint Joseph is also called "protodulia": above the regular saints, below Mary.
Forwarded from Mundum et Deum
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By far one of the dumbest things I have ever heard in my entire life, and being about as bad as reading through segments of the Talmud itself, the "Serpent Seed" doctrine is one of the most idiotic, most asinine, and absurd takes of all time, where someone with even severe brain-damage, with an IQ being sub-zero, and intoxicated, could never make up such a moronic doctrine. There is too much to rip and tear, and in order to be concise with, we will have to restrict ourselves to the fundamentals:
I. There is nothing to indicate that Cain and Abel were twins, and the idea of Cain being a child of Satan is absurd within itself.
i. Genesis 4 makes it clear Cain's father is Adam, and with CI's logic, Adam is Satan.
ii. Cain was conceived after Genesis 3, so the Fruit could not be Eve begetting a child with Satan.
iii. Esau and Jacob were twins, and the Scriptures make it clear they were so. This is important since if both Cain and Abel were twins, the Scriptures would have stated it so.
iv. The closest thing a child of Satan would be a Nephilim, but Genesis 6 makes it clear that the Nephilim abominations came about well after Cain killed Abel. If Cain was a Nephilim or Satan somehow altered Cain's very essence in the womb, all assuming the Nephilim are angel-human abominations, then it would be jarring for Scripture to not state this.
II. Genesis 3:15 clearly refers to Mary, and I already covered this in the Assumption posts earlier. Besides that, I will cite several Bible verses from the King James Bible in order to put into perspective how come this is so:
Isaiah 7:14 KJV
Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign: Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.
Luke 1:42-28 KJV
42 And she spake out with a loud voice, and said, Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb.
43 And whence is this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?
44 For, lo, as soon as the voice of thy salutation sounded in mine ears, the babe leaped in my womb for joy.
45 And blessed is she that believed: for there shall be a performance of those things which were told her from the Lord.
46 And Mary said, My soul doth magnify the Lord,
47 And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour.
48 For he hath regarded the low estate of his handmaiden: for, behold, from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.
That aside, disregarding Mary being the Woman that Satan has total war with, CI fails to comprehend how the Jews are Israelites. In light of this, how come it took thousands of years for the Israelites to not only come, but in order that the Jews specifically would come about to be at "total war with the Aryan race" is not only comical, but it also lacks Biblical basis. Also considering that it was foretold that Jesus would be rejected by Israel, and how the Samaritans already apostatized well before the advent of Christ, the amount of details off the mark is astronomical.
By far one of the dumbest things I have ever heard in my entire life, and being about as bad as reading through segments of the Talmud itself, the "Serpent Seed" doctrine is one of the most idiotic, most asinine, and absurd takes of all time, where someone with even severe brain-damage, with an IQ being sub-zero, and intoxicated, could never make up such a moronic doctrine. There is too much to rip and tear, and in order to be concise with, we will have to restrict ourselves to the fundamentals:
I. There is nothing to indicate that Cain and Abel were twins, and the idea of Cain being a child of Satan is absurd within itself.
i. Genesis 4 makes it clear Cain's father is Adam, and with CI's logic, Adam is Satan.
ii. Cain was conceived after Genesis 3, so the Fruit could not be Eve begetting a child with Satan.
iii. Esau and Jacob were twins, and the Scriptures make it clear they were so. This is important since if both Cain and Abel were twins, the Scriptures would have stated it so.
iv. The closest thing a child of Satan would be a Nephilim, but Genesis 6 makes it clear that the Nephilim abominations came about well after Cain killed Abel. If Cain was a Nephilim or Satan somehow altered Cain's very essence in the womb, all assuming the Nephilim are angel-human abominations, then it would be jarring for Scripture to not state this.
II. Genesis 3:15 clearly refers to Mary, and I already covered this in the Assumption posts earlier. Besides that, I will cite several Bible verses from the King James Bible in order to put into perspective how come this is so:
Isaiah 7:14 KJV
Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign: Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.
Luke 1:42-28 KJV
42 And she spake out with a loud voice, and said, Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb.
43 And whence is this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?
44 For, lo, as soon as the voice of thy salutation sounded in mine ears, the babe leaped in my womb for joy.
45 And blessed is she that believed: for there shall be a performance of those things which were told her from the Lord.
46 And Mary said, My soul doth magnify the Lord,
47 And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour.
48 For he hath regarded the low estate of his handmaiden: for, behold, from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.
That aside, disregarding Mary being the Woman that Satan has total war with, CI fails to comprehend how the Jews are Israelites. In light of this, how come it took thousands of years for the Israelites to not only come, but in order that the Jews specifically would come about to be at "total war with the Aryan race" is not only comical, but it also lacks Biblical basis. Also considering that it was foretold that Jesus would be rejected by Israel, and how the Samaritans already apostatized well before the advent of Christ, the amount of details off the mark is astronomical.
1: No Catholic or Orthodox Christian has ever considered Mary to be God or ever made such a claim. So stop insinuating that we do.
2: We likewise have never considered Mary to be the Mediator, we instead call her an intercessor, meaning that she and others in Heaven as illustrated by Revelation 8:3-4 offer up the prayers of those on Earth up to God.
"And another angel came, and stood before the altar, having a golden censer; and there was given to him much incense, that he should offer of the prayers of all saints upon the golden altar, which is before the throne of God. And the smoke of the incense of the prayers of the saints ascended up before God from the hand of the angel."
3: Luke 1:47 does not contradict Mary's sinlessness, it simply points out that Mary was protected from sin by God. The Greek translation for "Graced One" literally means blameless and thus free from sin. The angel declared her to be "full of grace", thus without sin.
4: Another ridiculous assertion given the previously stated verses from Revelation clearly show that those in Heaven do indeed care for us to offer up our prayers to God.
5: To pray means to implore, to ask. You evidently do not know the difference between prayer and worship and you instead conflate the two. We pray to her in order to ask for her intercession as the Marriage at Bethany illustrates when she asked Jesus to make the water into wine.
Conclusion, stop lying about Catholic doctrine and consider the fact that your hesitancy to run to Mary stems from a lack of true worship of God on your part.
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2: We likewise have never considered Mary to be the Mediator, we instead call her an intercessor, meaning that she and others in Heaven as illustrated by Revelation 8:3-4 offer up the prayers of those on Earth up to God.
"And another angel came, and stood before the altar, having a golden censer; and there was given to him much incense, that he should offer of the prayers of all saints upon the golden altar, which is before the throne of God. And the smoke of the incense of the prayers of the saints ascended up before God from the hand of the angel."
3: Luke 1:47 does not contradict Mary's sinlessness, it simply points out that Mary was protected from sin by God. The Greek translation for "Graced One" literally means blameless and thus free from sin. The angel declared her to be "full of grace", thus without sin.
4: Another ridiculous assertion given the previously stated verses from Revelation clearly show that those in Heaven do indeed care for us to offer up our prayers to God.
5: To pray means to implore, to ask. You evidently do not know the difference between prayer and worship and you instead conflate the two. We pray to her in order to ask for her intercession as the Marriage at Bethany illustrates when she asked Jesus to make the water into wine.
Conclusion, stop lying about Catholic doctrine and consider the fact that your hesitancy to run to Mary stems from a lack of true worship of God on your part.
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No Bible loving person can fail to be moved by Maryโs God-centred love; but at the same time, no Bible reader could ever fall into the trap of turning Jesusโ mother into a quasi-Saviour like figure to whom we must pray and intercede earnestly (and throughโฆ
Maryโs title of mediatrix arises from her cooperation in the Incarnation and in the Redemption of mankind. Through her โyesโ (Lk 1:38), she became the Theotokos (God-bearer), and, as the โNew Eve,โ she is โthe Mother of all living.โ
Irenaeus (A.D. 120โ200) wrote, โAs by a virgin the human race had been bound to death, by a virgin it is saved, the balance being preserved, a virginโs disobedience by a virginโs obedienceโ (Against Heresies, 3, 22, 19). Eve made the Fall possible, but Adam effected it; Mary made our Redemption possible (by consenting to bring the Savior into the world), but Jesus effected it.
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God permitted the Redemption of mankind to depend on the free-will decision of a human being. Whether or not we would have a mediator was dependent on Maryโs โyes.โ Had there been no โyesโ from Mary, there would have been no mediator. Thus the graces that come through Jesus may be said to come to us, in a secondary way, via Maryโnot as the origin of the graces, but as a conduit. The Catholic Church always has taught that Jesus Christ alone redeemed mankind (neither Mary nor any other creature had the power to do so), and ultimately only through him are salvation and grace obtained.
Even we are mediators, in a lesser sense. The word mediator means someone who is a go-between. In 1 Timothy 2:5, which refers to Jesus as the โone mediator,โ the Greek word for โoneโ is heis, which means โfirstโ or โprimaryโ and does not denote something exclusive. In fact, we are all mediators when we pray for one another. As members of the Mystical Body of Christ, we all share in Christโs role as mediator, but our efforts at being go-betweens โworkโ only because of what he has done.
Our mediating in no way diminishes the role of Christ as mediator; in fact, it glorifies the Father, because it is through Jesus that we can approach with confidence the throne of grace (Heb 4:14-16). How much more does Jesus give his mother Mary the privilege to be a participant in the distribution of grace!
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Irenaeus (A.D. 120โ200) wrote, โAs by a virgin the human race had been bound to death, by a virgin it is saved, the balance being preserved, a virginโs disobedience by a virginโs obedienceโ (Against Heresies, 3, 22, 19). Eve made the Fall possible, but Adam effected it; Mary made our Redemption possible (by consenting to bring the Savior into the world), but Jesus effected it.
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God permitted the Redemption of mankind to depend on the free-will decision of a human being. Whether or not we would have a mediator was dependent on Maryโs โyes.โ Had there been no โyesโ from Mary, there would have been no mediator. Thus the graces that come through Jesus may be said to come to us, in a secondary way, via Maryโnot as the origin of the graces, but as a conduit. The Catholic Church always has taught that Jesus Christ alone redeemed mankind (neither Mary nor any other creature had the power to do so), and ultimately only through him are salvation and grace obtained.
Even we are mediators, in a lesser sense. The word mediator means someone who is a go-between. In 1 Timothy 2:5, which refers to Jesus as the โone mediator,โ the Greek word for โoneโ is heis, which means โfirstโ or โprimaryโ and does not denote something exclusive. In fact, we are all mediators when we pray for one another. As members of the Mystical Body of Christ, we all share in Christโs role as mediator, but our efforts at being go-betweens โworkโ only because of what he has done.
Our mediating in no way diminishes the role of Christ as mediator; in fact, it glorifies the Father, because it is through Jesus that we can approach with confidence the throne of grace (Heb 4:14-16). How much more does Jesus give his mother Mary the privilege to be a participant in the distribution of grace!
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Seraphim is Catholic (confirmed)
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๐ณ๐๐ Wth Seraphim finally renounces the CI heresy and converts to Catholicism?