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It Takes a Village - False Rape Accusations

This is a comment I read online some time ago. It got me thinking about how false rape allegations are more about our social misandry than they are about one lying female. It speaks to how a woman whose lying about being raped needs the help of a lot of people to destroy a man's life. Think about the false allegations you've read about in this thread. How often the guy talks about how people he thought were friends, and in some cases, family members, believed a false allegation against him. This is society attacking a man, more than just one woman attacking a man.

Having said that, I think this quote exaggerates this collusion a bit. You don't need THIS much collusion. But this is nitpicking by me. This quote catches the essence of this lie is not just a lie, it is a conspiracy. Here's the quote.

"you are underestimating women, my friend. You said "women lie about BEING RAPED". It is far worse than that. It takes a lot more lying women than just the one in the alleged victim role to make a false accusation stick long enough to secure a conviction.

You need your lying post-trauma counsellor to lie about the alleged victim's symptoms and about the science behind those symptoms. You also need your colluding lying women friends and family members to lie on behalf of the alleged victim, and last but not least you need a lying lawyer, a lying journalist and a lying police official. The latter three needn't be women. Being greedy is enough qualification for them.

Summarised: you need One to lie about BEING RAPED, and a shitload of others lying ABOUT HER RAPE and a few more that lie ABOUT THE NATURE OF RAPE IN GENERAL. A few "professors" and other Elizabeth Sheehy's spring to mind. THAT, my friend, is a FACT. You are dealing with a fucking industry!!

You men are too fond of simple binaries: one versus one. Patton versus Rommel, Wellington versus Waterloo, Lee Van Cleef versus Charlie Bronson, Julius Caesar versus Vercingetorix ... . Yeah. Right. Livia versus Agrippina involved two and a half Roman Legions, a bunch of crooked lawyers and two handfuls of high-ranking aristocratic fuck buddies. You are underestimating women, pal."

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Ever just get tired of listening to women talk/complain?

So much of their babble reminds me of a mother complaining.

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false rape accusations that destroyed lifes

my friend thinks its not that life ruining if you still can get a job so like are there any examples of lifes being ruined cause of an accusation?

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Women unable to do the bare minimum in a relationship.

Listen, I think part of the problem with modern relationships is that there are no expectations for women.

But I don't think my expectations are unreasonable.

I want a woman that's honest with me, obviously beautiful, I'd like for her to cook, and she needs to own at least a 21-foot fishing boat with dual outboard motors.

And listen ladies, I'm talking about the bare minimum here.

If I'm out fishing and I'm on the ocean, what happens if one of my motors breaks down?

I've got to call the Coast Guard?!

They're going to be hours! No way am I waiting for that!

I need to have at least dual outboard motors!

And ladies, I get that a boat is expensive, but this is the bare minimum.

Get a second job! Listen, I have options. You better bring your game if you want me by your side.

You have to come to terms with the fact that I am the prize.

Drizzle, drizzle.

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A Man’s Right To Have A Say Without Moderation by Feminists

Here’s the hot take: if a woman gets to decide whether to keep a pregnancy or not, then men should have the same right to choose if they want to be a father.

Why is this even controversial? If you didn’t agree to be a parent, why should you be forced to pay for a kid for 18+ years? Men getting financially tied to a child they didn’t want is the exact opposite of choice.

The conversation shouldn’t just be about abortion—it should go back to family planning and actual rights for both people involved. Men and women both have skin in the game, and both should get a say.

This isn’t about being lazy or avoiding responsibility—it’s about fairness and consent in reproduction. If society acknowledges a woman’s bodily autonomy, it’s only logical that a man should get autonomy over his wallet, life, and choices too.

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MRA in New Zealand

Are there any fellow MRA-sympathizing men/women here in Aotearoa? I know it's quite a mainstreamly-feministic-ish country (I mean publically), but how many of us are here? Let's get acquainted!:)

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Dear women of the subreddit/female MRAs: based on your experiences of interacting with other women, how common is it for women to have compassion towards male suffering?

I ask because it doesn't seem very common on the surface, but I wonder whether that's because women don't want to be called pick-me's or become an outcast. In reality, do you think a substantial proportion of women are compassionate towards men's issues and male suffering?


If men want to give their perspective, that's of course welcomed as well. I was just asking women in the title because maybe they'd have a different understand since they're women themselves.

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Serious advice for men: Don't date broke women

An observation, along with some advice. I've heard a lot of guys mention that men don't care about how much money their potential girlfriends and wives make when choosing a partner, and they mention it almost like it's a brag. I understand the virtue of placing humanity and raw attraction over money and socioeconomic class, but I really think more men need to start caring.

Most women want to oppose traditional gender roles, but a certain type of woman stops opposing them the moment that duties typically shouldered by men come up. Avoid this type of woman. In fact, avoid all women who are strongly invested in the idea of any duty men toward them that they would never reciprocate, including "trad" types, they are delusional parasites. We're at a point of civilizational advancement where there are enough educational and economic opportunities for women for them to not depend financially on men. Anyone who refuses to adapt to that reality is not a reasonable person. You shouldn't date them, or embody their beliefs yourself.

Women who have their shit together don't have to stake their future on the belief in male financial duty toward them. They can see you for your humanity because they are grown-up enough to realize that your financial prosperity comes from your job and not your boyfriend. Have you ever noticed what all those girls who think first dates need to be over $100 to be a "real date" tend to have in common? They're usually broke. They might dress fancy, but the girls obsessing about the amount of money men spend on dates are usually financially dependent on men, in heavy credit card debt, and financially unstable. Women with a 401k aren't sitting around with their friends squawking about how cheap a guy was on a simple first date.

Women who are willing to pay for dates are a green flag. Almost every girl and woman I've ever dated since I was in high school has been willing to pay for dates at least some of the time. My first girlfriend was excited to use the money from her first job to take me to a concert. The upper-class girl I dated my in college paid for every single date for the first two months of our relationship simply because she understood it was stupid for a young girl with a trust fund to expect a 19 year old with a part-time job to pay for everything just because he was a guy and she was a girl.

I avoid women who see dating as a route to economic gain, and the results have been great. The only woman I dated who fixated on how much I spent on dates and insisted that I plan out and pay for absolutely everything was emotionally abusive. When we broke up she started dating a man who was 56 years old (we were both 21) and got abused herself, followed by two hasty marriages to military guys that lead to hasty divorces, then a third marriage and divorce to a much older single dad who also divorced her. She is now 33 years old and three times divorced, and I am happily married to a woman I've been with for seven years.

My exes who were willing to take me out? They're all in great relationships. My high school girlfriend who would take me out with money from her part-time job married the very next guy she dated and they're happy with kids, 16 years later. My rich trust-fund college girlfriend? She's now a highly paid aircraft engineer, and happily married to a guy she started dating in her mid-20s. Her husband is a wildlife tour guide who makes less money than her but she doesn't give a shit because he has qualities that she loves (adventurous spirit, humor, kindness, joyfulness) and they're financially fine. My other exes who didn't chase men for money are all doing great too. Either married or in long-term relationships, pursing careers for money and romantic relationships for meaning (and not the other way around). As for others in my life, I see the same pattern. My friend who married a lawyer is happy with his relationship and loved by his wife, my friend who married a dropout who couldn't keep a job for more than a year gets nagged and
financially drained by her.

As for me? I lost my job a few weeks after I started dating the woman who is now my wife, and it had zero negative impact on her feelings toward me. Why? Because she understood that I needed some time to get back on my feet. While I was looking for a new job we still went on dates, either cheap dates planned by me. I think I knew then that she was special, because the fact that I needed to save money and not spend it on expensive dates didn't make me less attractive to her. We laughed at each other's jokes, had enough interests in common to enjoy things together but enough diverging interests to have our own space, and the sex was great. Money wasn't on her mind.

Her mature self-responsibility also bled into the rest of her relationship ethos and made her a better girlfriend (and later wife) all around. She is fair. She knows when to apologize instead of starting a fight to make sure she is always "right". She has never used any of the insecurities or emotional vulnerabilities I've revealed to her against me. She's there for me just as much as I'm there for her. She doesn't demand anything that she wouldn't be willing to return. The sex is still great. She will initiate it just as often as I do, and is just as proactively physical during sex as I am.

I know I'm just drawing from my own life and a statistically non-conclusive sample size of people that I know, but I'm noticing a pretty strong pattern here. Stop believing the women who claim that it's normal for them to never pay for anything, never listen to your wants and needs, and never need to give their man emotional support. It's not normal. Women who can and do pull their weight are out there, you just need to avoid broke girls like the plague.

Don't try to attract women by signaling superficial wealth and luxury, you might as well bleed in front of a shark. Don't indulge Cinderella fantasies about "saving" a girl who will be eternally grateful to you for economically elevating her, she won't be grateful, she may even see you as an ATM machine and not as a human. Don't assume that focusing on your finances and career will improve your dating prospects; if all you have to offer is money, all you will attract is women who want your money. Don't entertain women who think cheap first dates aren't "real dates". Don't date women who aren't employed, or at least getting education/job training. Don't date women who don't have a plan for their career. Don't date women who've never paid their own bills before. Most of all? Don't talk to girls who can somehow afford expensive clothes and accessories but can't afford a car or their own Uber ride to meet you.

TL;DR: Every man I know who married or long-term dated a financially stable and educated woman is in a happy relationship and every woman I know who never expected men to pay their bills and pay for every date went on to be in happy marriages. Every woman I know who chased men for money ended up with a sour love life, and every man I know who stayed with broke and entitled women ended up with nightmare relationships to emotional/financial parasites. DON'T DATE BROKE WOMEN.

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Men are, for practical purposes, their own "out-group".

What I mean is that if men generally have an out-group bias, their support and compassion is directed away from 'the male bloc'. In effect, men become other men's out-group when it comes to really crucial things like support, compassion, advocacy and so on.


Note: I know this doesn't apply to all men and in every single circumstance but this is overall the case.

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On my first day at the job as an after school counselor the women employees began to make sexual comments about the dads picking up their kids.

I couldn’t help but think how much trouble I d be in if I said the same things. I work with all women and they were saying the dad’s name was the same as a condominium brand and they’d like to take him in back and bust that condom.

Not only was it weird for me to hear. It also made me think of how quickly I’d be died if I said that about a mother.

They also had no fear saying it together and laughing on my first day there. There’s no repercussion even when our boss heard.

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Deconstructing Femininity

Hey, I came to an epiphany last night about feminism, masculinity, and femininity.

Feminism states verbatim that its goal is to tear down patriarchy by deconstructing masculinity. And feminism also claims to want strict gender equality. But seems reluctant to hold the same blowtorch to traditional femininity, like an old faded wedding dress they no longer fit into but like to take out of the closet and hold up to the mirror and pretend they are young again. I think feminism may recognize the damage psychology tells us this endless criticism of gender identity has caused for men, but I’m assuming not considering they are continuing that onslaught on male identity unabated.

So I think we need to help feminism deconstruct femininity and give them a gentle push off that cliff because I think a key factor in the current tension in society is that one gender identity is under constant criticism and the other is completely free from criticism. Feminism would describe this as men being less tethered to traditional masculinity because feminism deconstructed/destroyed it for us, (gee thanks!) and I think we should help them free women from traditional femininity and cut that tether such that it can never be remade.

The pillars of virtue within traditional femininity as I see them are:
- Motherhood
- Beauty
- Empathy
- Goodness

Motherhood can be reunderstood within a world of overpopulation and ecological destruction as an existentially gluttonous and narcissistic act, gobbling up all of the resources and sacrificing the future of the planet just so the feminine can make more copies of themselves.

Feminine beauty can similarly be recontextualized within a world where we know the lengths the feminine routinely go to in an effort to enhance their beauty. They use anti-aging skin creams on their faces which are made from the private parts of baby boys bodies.

Empathy is often weaponized. When you are told how you feel, or told that your feelings are due to misunderstandings, or that feminine feelings are somehow more valid, you are experiencing the antisocial side of feminine empathy. It is not a virtue to be able to read others emotions when that information is used to control and abuse.

The concept of WAW comes from the feminine relational morality which really just asks the basic question “is everyone happy? And if not, are the right people happy?” This tends to work well in small groups and completely falls apart at scale. It is a low functioning people pleasing form of morality that should be widely understood as genuinely inferior to universal rules.

My understanding from feminism is that to deconstruct (destroy) a thing you only need to criticize it endlessly. Because by criticizing it repeatedly you reduce it to something worthy of constant criticism and inherently degrade it in the eyes of others. If it is something we consider sacred, like masculine stoicism or feminine motherhood, endless criticism wipes that sacred varnish off and makes it mundane, and killable.

So I invite you all to join me in this quest to find and compile the best legitimate criticisms of traditional femininity with regard to its actual value to humanity, and try to strip away all sentimentality. We need to develop a script we can repeat at scale that will articulately question the value of traditional femininity. Let’s burn that dress!

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My Problem With "Benevolent Sexism" and "Male Privilege"

I took a Social Psychology class this semester (I have to take a psych course for my degree) and I learned a new term, "Benevolent Sexism"- the idea that things that positive traits and actions are sexist. I've noticed things that benefit women are framed negatively, ex: a man paying for her meal as sexist, framing the privilege as secondary to the sexism while focusing on men's privileges while ignoring the costs. ex: men get higher pay than women (ignoring the disproportionately high male workplace deaths) It's just a way to keep the oppressor/oppressed narrative.

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