contributed to a better story, I think what a problem is some mysteries were not huge mysteries, but Lost introduced them as very big and because of that people started to imagine even more however that is the point of the show, you are meant to feel lost.
But I'll still say most of the mysteries had very good answers, some were like ooh ok, I expected more but fine, that is a valid criticism.
but the ghosts reveal?? that was a disgrace lol but that's an extreme example.
I'm actually more favourable to the last seasons of lost than the first three lol in talking about mysteries n stuff but
# Some of your craziest theories that you may have had about the show for the island, mother etc. can still fit into this show. That isn't gone forever.
And that's why I say show leaving some mysteries unsolved keeps the mythology alive, your fan theories can still be fit there which is so fun. So many shows have great endings because they try to avoid what they think Lost accidentally did, lost didn't do it though which is have a bad ending. It is TV's greatest mess though but also a beautiful one, **You do not think about puzzles that are completely solved, Do you?**
ABC's marketing team was also of no help constantly making up advertisements where there's lines like "I promise I'll tell you everything ", "all your answers are here"... Lost on ABC™. An Example - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD8mUUjyOQ0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD8mUUjyOQ0)
Damon Lindelof & Carlton Cuse during the airing of Lost, said about the mysteries of Lost and are accused of lying but most of these were to mislead people from guessing the actual plot and from avoiding spoiling the show.
In Lost you go from one big moment to slow moments instead of going from one big moment to another, it makes the big moments that much important and which is not seen much in modern era shows where some seasons feel like stepping stones and not a full season on their own.
And by trying to become like movies tv shows are losing the strengths of what makes tv special.
Like discussing what will happen next with friends or family, that is I think the one of biggest argument for a tv show, that is what makes tv different than any other art not just movies. It's exactly what made Dexter, Breaking Bad, The Sopranos, Game Of Thrones special.
Another thing are filler scenes, ok they don't progress the story but made the characters feel real, you see characters when they are angry, happy, you get bored with them too,ofc it's not that it can't be done in a streaming era show in few eps to get connected with a huge cast but it's much harder.
but Imagine if Lost had 12 episodes per season? Sure, plots and character counts are adjusted to fit longer/shorter seasons, but man I just would not give a living crap about people like Boone, Ana Lucia etc.
Everything would be made to feel smaller, more enclosed, more claustrophobic if it were super time-limited like a show like House of the Dragon is. I know Lost is unique with having the ensemble cast and all, but it feels like it has such a big scope with 121 episodes over 6 seasons, instead of 48 episodes over 6 seasons, like a streaming show might be. So much more time to breathe and flesh out literally EVERYTHING. I had moments where I loved Jack, Kate, Sawyer & There were moments where I hated them as well.
Lost is an original story that came and evolved within the medium of TV itself and was bound to it's limits like it couldn't have been an 18+ show on ABC and thankfully because we didn't need that in Lost, You can not separate Lost from it's identity of a TV show, the flashbacks, intro, mysteries, discussions, It can not be seperated from the medium and how Lost was told, Lost is inseparable from cable television in my opinion— if you remove the medium, you remove the thing itself.
Most other shows are masterpieces of storytelling that just happen to be on TV. Lost is a work that could only exist as television— it's identity collapses or heavily distorts if you try to move it elsewhere. Game of thrones is based of
But I'll still say most of the mysteries had very good answers, some were like ooh ok, I expected more but fine, that is a valid criticism.
but the ghosts reveal?? that was a disgrace lol but that's an extreme example.
I'm actually more favourable to the last seasons of lost than the first three lol in talking about mysteries n stuff but
# Some of your craziest theories that you may have had about the show for the island, mother etc. can still fit into this show. That isn't gone forever.
And that's why I say show leaving some mysteries unsolved keeps the mythology alive, your fan theories can still be fit there which is so fun. So many shows have great endings because they try to avoid what they think Lost accidentally did, lost didn't do it though which is have a bad ending. It is TV's greatest mess though but also a beautiful one, **You do not think about puzzles that are completely solved, Do you?**
ABC's marketing team was also of no help constantly making up advertisements where there's lines like "I promise I'll tell you everything ", "all your answers are here"... Lost on ABC™. An Example - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD8mUUjyOQ0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD8mUUjyOQ0)
Damon Lindelof & Carlton Cuse during the airing of Lost, said about the mysteries of Lost and are accused of lying but most of these were to mislead people from guessing the actual plot and from avoiding spoiling the show.
In Lost you go from one big moment to slow moments instead of going from one big moment to another, it makes the big moments that much important and which is not seen much in modern era shows where some seasons feel like stepping stones and not a full season on their own.
And by trying to become like movies tv shows are losing the strengths of what makes tv special.
Like discussing what will happen next with friends or family, that is I think the one of biggest argument for a tv show, that is what makes tv different than any other art not just movies. It's exactly what made Dexter, Breaking Bad, The Sopranos, Game Of Thrones special.
Another thing are filler scenes, ok they don't progress the story but made the characters feel real, you see characters when they are angry, happy, you get bored with them too,ofc it's not that it can't be done in a streaming era show in few eps to get connected with a huge cast but it's much harder.
but Imagine if Lost had 12 episodes per season? Sure, plots and character counts are adjusted to fit longer/shorter seasons, but man I just would not give a living crap about people like Boone, Ana Lucia etc.
Everything would be made to feel smaller, more enclosed, more claustrophobic if it were super time-limited like a show like House of the Dragon is. I know Lost is unique with having the ensemble cast and all, but it feels like it has such a big scope with 121 episodes over 6 seasons, instead of 48 episodes over 6 seasons, like a streaming show might be. So much more time to breathe and flesh out literally EVERYTHING. I had moments where I loved Jack, Kate, Sawyer & There were moments where I hated them as well.
Lost is an original story that came and evolved within the medium of TV itself and was bound to it's limits like it couldn't have been an 18+ show on ABC and thankfully because we didn't need that in Lost, You can not separate Lost from it's identity of a TV show, the flashbacks, intro, mysteries, discussions, It can not be seperated from the medium and how Lost was told, Lost is inseparable from cable television in my opinion— if you remove the medium, you remove the thing itself.
Most other shows are masterpieces of storytelling that just happen to be on TV. Lost is a work that could only exist as television— it's identity collapses or heavily distorts if you try to move it elsewhere. Game of thrones is based of
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s4 is the best so far
i absolutely devoured s4!!! it was amazing! so intensely packed with so much happening and the >!time travel!< that just blew me away!! absolutely loved it! s3 ending did really make me sad for a bit because how dissatisfying it was, but the entire s4 made up for it.
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i absolutely devoured s4!!! it was amazing! so intensely packed with so much happening and the >!time travel!< that just blew me away!! absolutely loved it! s3 ending did really make me sad for a bit because how dissatisfying it was, but the entire s4 made up for it.
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working theory - the island takes who it wants once their story is over
hi - first time watcher here and i have a working theory on the island. i just finished season 2 episode 10, so i know i'm still a bit early in the game, but it seems like >!the island takes who it wants when their internal conflict is finally over. so far, boone and shannon have died. !<
>!boone's character arc and main theme revolved around shannon and loving her, and feeling the need to be useful. once he let go of that with locke when he was tripping on drugs, he soon after died. !<
>!with shannon, once the desire to be needed and approved of without the fear of the person leaving, she died too.!<
i wonder if this is going to be a recurring theme, >!and it seems further backed up by the fact that kate and jack haven't gotten together yet. right now, her and sawyer are having their arc, and i have a feeling that sawyer will have to fulfill his arc with kate, die, and then it will be kate and jack's turn to have their own re-ignited love story, and that it will mean something more for the both of them. the more complex the characters, the longer their resolution will take before they die. !<
for another spoiler, i'm not sure if i had the show spoiled for myself ages ago (please do not confirm if this is true) >!but i feel like i remember something about them being dead the whole time? well my theory is that this is purgatory. now disclaimer, i'm not really familiar with the concept of purgatory since i'm not christian, but there is an element of faith and religion in this show that does primarily focus on the christianity side of things, so it's my understanding that purgatory is for the souls that are lost in between? so this further backs up my thought process that this is some sort of purgatory or in between state for all of the islanders. !<
i do also think that the focus on >!sawyer reading "a wrinkle in time" is an allusion to this fact, so i'm really interested to see where this goes!<
on a completely unrelated note, i just want to list out my favorite characters - although i have a lot of conflicting opinions on them, i generally like them (no particular order) -- jin, sun, locke, ana lucia, sawyer (sometimes), eko
and can i just say i don't really care for jack's back story. i know we're all supposed to like him but man it just feels so forced sometimes. same for kate. as much as i like her backstory, it just feels so forced with them.
honorable mention to >!walt. i miss him hope he's ok... sigh, i'll be sad when something inevitably happens to him once more!<
edit: i remembered something else to back up this theory -- >!eko landing on the island and seeing that his brother was on the plane along with the whole internal conflict that led him here in the first place, is even more evidence to support my theory that there needs to be some resolution within themselves to lead them to the next place. !<
same thing with >!claire, she needs to fulfill that prophecy of her raising her kid before she is also able to move on. !<
another thing i think is important to be mentioned is the whole >!dharma/bunker thing. not sure what role that plays into it but it's something i think anyone can figure that out though!<
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hi - first time watcher here and i have a working theory on the island. i just finished season 2 episode 10, so i know i'm still a bit early in the game, but it seems like >!the island takes who it wants when their internal conflict is finally over. so far, boone and shannon have died. !<
>!boone's character arc and main theme revolved around shannon and loving her, and feeling the need to be useful. once he let go of that with locke when he was tripping on drugs, he soon after died. !<
>!with shannon, once the desire to be needed and approved of without the fear of the person leaving, she died too.!<
i wonder if this is going to be a recurring theme, >!and it seems further backed up by the fact that kate and jack haven't gotten together yet. right now, her and sawyer are having their arc, and i have a feeling that sawyer will have to fulfill his arc with kate, die, and then it will be kate and jack's turn to have their own re-ignited love story, and that it will mean something more for the both of them. the more complex the characters, the longer their resolution will take before they die. !<
for another spoiler, i'm not sure if i had the show spoiled for myself ages ago (please do not confirm if this is true) >!but i feel like i remember something about them being dead the whole time? well my theory is that this is purgatory. now disclaimer, i'm not really familiar with the concept of purgatory since i'm not christian, but there is an element of faith and religion in this show that does primarily focus on the christianity side of things, so it's my understanding that purgatory is for the souls that are lost in between? so this further backs up my thought process that this is some sort of purgatory or in between state for all of the islanders. !<
i do also think that the focus on >!sawyer reading "a wrinkle in time" is an allusion to this fact, so i'm really interested to see where this goes!<
on a completely unrelated note, i just want to list out my favorite characters - although i have a lot of conflicting opinions on them, i generally like them (no particular order) -- jin, sun, locke, ana lucia, sawyer (sometimes), eko
and can i just say i don't really care for jack's back story. i know we're all supposed to like him but man it just feels so forced sometimes. same for kate. as much as i like her backstory, it just feels so forced with them.
honorable mention to >!walt. i miss him hope he's ok... sigh, i'll be sad when something inevitably happens to him once more!<
edit: i remembered something else to back up this theory -- >!eko landing on the island and seeing that his brother was on the plane along with the whole internal conflict that led him here in the first place, is even more evidence to support my theory that there needs to be some resolution within themselves to lead them to the next place. !<
same thing with >!claire, she needs to fulfill that prophecy of her raising her kid before she is also able to move on. !<
another thing i think is important to be mentioned is the whole >!dharma/bunker thing. not sure what role that plays into it but it's something i think anyone can figure that out though!<
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Okay so I know I made another post about my 5th rewatch but I need to recalibrate about Michael's character.
(Possible spoilers for first time watchers warning) I finally appreciate Michael's character. He was always so annoying and I overlooked so much of his story and arch before. I'm only in season 1 of this rewatch but I'm already noticing so much of his character development, when before I just didn't see any of his actions until later seasons, before.
I mean, he's the only one that goes to stand up for Sun when Jin is being abusive, when Sun wears a bikini on the beach. He's already stood up to be a father and flew across the oceans to readopt his son who Susan's husband abandoned to him (derogatory) (also Susan is a complete asshole).
Michael has had a come to Jesus moment about how to relate to his son and changed his behavior towards Walt. They bonded over the letters in the box. He just wants to leave the island with his son; and once Walt gets taken after the raft, he'd do anything to get him back. The writers kinda did him bad by making his only lines "WALT!" and "MY BOY!"
I think people like me overlooked his story in the beginning and only judged him for his actions when he killed Ana Lucia and accidentally killed Libby in an act of cowardess and fear. I see him differently now. And I'm gonna watch from season 1 forward appreciating his story arc.
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(Possible spoilers for first time watchers warning) I finally appreciate Michael's character. He was always so annoying and I overlooked so much of his story and arch before. I'm only in season 1 of this rewatch but I'm already noticing so much of his character development, when before I just didn't see any of his actions until later seasons, before.
I mean, he's the only one that goes to stand up for Sun when Jin is being abusive, when Sun wears a bikini on the beach. He's already stood up to be a father and flew across the oceans to readopt his son who Susan's husband abandoned to him (derogatory) (also Susan is a complete asshole).
Michael has had a come to Jesus moment about how to relate to his son and changed his behavior towards Walt. They bonded over the letters in the box. He just wants to leave the island with his son; and once Walt gets taken after the raft, he'd do anything to get him back. The writers kinda did him bad by making his only lines "WALT!" and "MY BOY!"
I think people like me overlooked his story in the beginning and only judged him for his actions when he killed Ana Lucia and accidentally killed Libby in an act of cowardess and fear. I see him differently now. And I'm gonna watch from season 1 forward appreciating his story arc.
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Why didn’t Ben leverage freeing Walt in exchange for Jack to operate in him?
Let’s say during season 2, Ben gets a cassette tape and is like “hi Jack I’m the leader of the others. I have cancer and I know you’re a surgeon. If you operate on me then Walt goes free.” Then he gives the cassette to Karl and has him take it to the castaways. Jack would almost certainly eventually do it, especially with pressure from Michael. Instead he manufactured, intentionally or unintentionally, the deaths of two people and the intentional kidnapping of four other people. Not to mention he made the traumatized father do all of this
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Let’s say during season 2, Ben gets a cassette tape and is like “hi Jack I’m the leader of the others. I have cancer and I know you’re a surgeon. If you operate on me then Walt goes free.” Then he gives the cassette to Karl and has him take it to the castaways. Jack would almost certainly eventually do it, especially with pressure from Michael. Instead he manufactured, intentionally or unintentionally, the deaths of two people and the intentional kidnapping of four other people. Not to mention he made the traumatized father do all of this
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Finished my second watch of Lost
I first watched this with my dad after graduation a few years ago, and I loved the show. I'm now married and got to introduce my husband to it. We just finished the last episode a few days ago and I'm obsessed again; trying to find more content lol. There's a lot I could say, but the most important is that Ben is simply the best character in the show, and arguably one of the best characters of his specific type written and acted out in tv history (the vague wording is to avoid giving spoilers of who he is for any new fans). I tend to love that kind of character in shows, and it's not easy to find ones that are so perfectly done, but I have a list and Ben is at the top.
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I first watched this with my dad after graduation a few years ago, and I loved the show. I'm now married and got to introduce my husband to it. We just finished the last episode a few days ago and I'm obsessed again; trying to find more content lol. There's a lot I could say, but the most important is that Ben is simply the best character in the show, and arguably one of the best characters of his specific type written and acted out in tv history (the vague wording is to avoid giving spoilers of who he is for any new fans). I tend to love that kind of character in shows, and it's not easy to find ones that are so perfectly done, but I have a list and Ben is at the top.
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its like 3 different shows
s1 to s3 feels like a survival show, and then some of s4 and most of s5 are like >!sci-fi time travel!< show.. and s6 turns into a >!horror series with the temple and evil takeovers!<.. only a few eps into season 6 and it all feels like I've been on a rollercoaster, watching 3 different shows..
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s1 to s3 feels like a survival show, and then some of s4 and most of s5 are like >!sci-fi time travel!< show.. and s6 turns into a >!horror series with the temple and evil takeovers!<.. only a few eps into season 6 and it all feels like I've been on a rollercoaster, watching 3 different shows..
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currently on season 3
watching on disney plus and it’s so frustrating because of all the ads i set a timer it literally played 4mins of the show and then 2 mins of ads just now 😬is there a better service to stream it from currently in the us. thanks
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watching on disney plus and it’s so frustrating because of all the ads i set a timer it literally played 4mins of the show and then 2 mins of ads just now 😬is there a better service to stream it from currently in the us. thanks
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Would Danielle do what Michael did to save Alex?
I mean like kill two innocent people and lead 4 others to get kidnapped in order to get Alex back
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I mean like kill two innocent people and lead 4 others to get kidnapped in order to get Alex back
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on season 6 and don't want it to be over
half way into s6 and alternate universe Desmond is collecting them all like Pokémon😭 the feeling of dread that comes once the series i get emotionally attached to is about to end, is setting in as i watch ep15 😭 i do not want it to end 😭 should have watched it slower 🫠
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half way into s6 and alternate universe Desmond is collecting them all like Pokémon😭 the feeling of dread that comes once the series i get emotionally attached to is about to end, is setting in as i watch ep15 😭 i do not want it to end 😭 should have watched it slower 🫠
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Just finished “Ab Aeterno” on a rewatch and its one of my favourite episode oat
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finished watching for the first time
and now the post series depression is here to eat me alive.. so many thoughts i cannot even gather thrm all.. but a few things for sure.. i LOVED Desmond! he has to be my favorite.. i was so annoyed by so many of them throughout the series but at the end just can't help but think how much they all grew in their character and I'll miss them all quite a lot.. i did not like jack till most of S6.. but then towards the end he kind of redeemed himself for me.. can't say the same about kate tho.. still not a fan.. i cannot believe how much i despised Ben when we started and how it turned around completely as i watched more and more of him.. i almost felt sad and pity for him.. i wish he moved on with the others too.. the ending was just bittersweet.. they got to be happy together only after dying.. that's just sad.. but atleast they were happy and together.. ah i miss it all already.. i will give myself some time before i decide its time for a rewatch..
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and now the post series depression is here to eat me alive.. so many thoughts i cannot even gather thrm all.. but a few things for sure.. i LOVED Desmond! he has to be my favorite.. i was so annoyed by so many of them throughout the series but at the end just can't help but think how much they all grew in their character and I'll miss them all quite a lot.. i did not like jack till most of S6.. but then towards the end he kind of redeemed himself for me.. can't say the same about kate tho.. still not a fan.. i cannot believe how much i despised Ben when we started and how it turned around completely as i watched more and more of him.. i almost felt sad and pity for him.. i wish he moved on with the others too.. the ending was just bittersweet.. they got to be happy together only after dying.. that's just sad.. but atleast they were happy and together.. ah i miss it all already.. i will give myself some time before i decide its time for a rewatch..
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Are there different edits for the season finales of Lost?
For context, I’ve been watching Lost along with a reactor since S3 to try a new experience. I overlay the episode video while putting the reactor’s audio and video in the corner, but I’ve started noticing some differences on the season finale.
For the record, I’m watching Lost on Disney+. I'm currently on the S5 finale, and I noticed a lot of cuts between my version and the reactor's version. I can't recall the specific differences in the S3 and S4 finales, but I noticed them because our streams were out of sync. I thought those parts weren't that important at the time.
However, while watching the first part of the S5 finale, I got really confused. In the reaction video, there’s a scene where Sawyer, Kate, and Juliet meet Bernard and Rose and ask where they've been for the past three years, ending with Rose explaining that they retired. There was also a flashback showing Locke and Jacob when Locke falls out of the window. Neither of these scenes showed up on Disney+. Why is this happening?
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For context, I’ve been watching Lost along with a reactor since S3 to try a new experience. I overlay the episode video while putting the reactor’s audio and video in the corner, but I’ve started noticing some differences on the season finale.
For the record, I’m watching Lost on Disney+. I'm currently on the S5 finale, and I noticed a lot of cuts between my version and the reactor's version. I can't recall the specific differences in the S3 and S4 finales, but I noticed them because our streams were out of sync. I thought those parts weren't that important at the time.
However, while watching the first part of the S5 finale, I got really confused. In the reaction video, there’s a scene where Sawyer, Kate, and Juliet meet Bernard and Rose and ask where they've been for the past three years, ending with Rose explaining that they retired. There was also a flashback showing Locke and Jacob when Locke falls out of the window. Neither of these scenes showed up on Disney+. Why is this happening?
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First intro between Jacob and the MIB
First off I just want to say that I love the actors they choose for their characters!!! They did a phenomenal job! Every time I rewatch and we see their meeting on the beach and MIB says to Jacob “do you have any idea how badly I want to kill you!?” First thought is HOLY SHIT!!!! This is intense!!!!Crazy right!? And my second thought is with the wrong actors or poor directing this scene could be so corny and lame or look like a joke! Anyone else ever think about it like that?
side bar I need to watch Bosch!!!!
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First off I just want to say that I love the actors they choose for their characters!!! They did a phenomenal job! Every time I rewatch and we see their meeting on the beach and MIB says to Jacob “do you have any idea how badly I want to kill you!?” First thought is HOLY SHIT!!!! This is intense!!!!Crazy right!? And my second thought is with the wrong actors or poor directing this scene could be so corny and lame or look like a joke! Anyone else ever think about it like that?
side bar I need to watch Bosch!!!!
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