Craziest Smoke Monster theories?
I just started my 6th rewatch. I didn’t get to watch as the show was airing on tv, so I don’t know any of the discourse at the time.
>!Before seeing the smoke monster for the first time, what were some of the crazy theories fans were coming up with based off the noises, the pilot getting shredded, etc.!<
Also any other crazy theories as the show was originally airing will be welcome as well
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I just started my 6th rewatch. I didn’t get to watch as the show was airing on tv, so I don’t know any of the discourse at the time.
>!Before seeing the smoke monster for the first time, what were some of the crazy theories fans were coming up with based off the noises, the pilot getting shredded, etc.!<
Also any other crazy theories as the show was originally airing will be welcome as well
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Songs in Pop Culture That Remind You of Lost.
I was just listening to a song by Talking Heads, "Heaven".
"There is a party. Everyone is there. Everyone will leave at exactly the same time.
When this party's over, it will start again. It won't be any different. It will be exactly the same. "
I don't know if anyone is familiar with that song, but it reminded me of the ending of Lost so much.
Are there any songs you've heard that reminds you of the show at all?
Nirvana "Scentless Apprentice" of course reminds me of Jack all drugged out but of course that's the actual song in the scene. Haha
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I was just listening to a song by Talking Heads, "Heaven".
"There is a party. Everyone is there. Everyone will leave at exactly the same time.
When this party's over, it will start again. It won't be any different. It will be exactly the same. "
I don't know if anyone is familiar with that song, but it reminded me of the ending of Lost so much.
Are there any songs you've heard that reminds you of the show at all?
Nirvana "Scentless Apprentice" of course reminds me of Jack all drugged out but of course that's the actual song in the scene. Haha
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a cynical take i’ve never voiced out loud. SPOILERS :)
i’ve seen lost fully through 10 times as of last month, and seasons 1-3 probably 5 more times due to all of the times i’ve started it with people that didn’t finish it.
in my 8th watch, it hit me: this show is fucking depressing. the TLDR is that two demigods bent on proving each other wrong manipulated a bunch of people and got them all killed.
locke found his destiny - which was the island’s pull on him, not just jacob’s - and was manipulated into choosing his own death rather than properly leading the island. it could have gone countless different ways - he could have had jack leave through the orchid, promising him that he would actually be able to leave and persuading him that he could send help for everyone else once he did. and it wasn’t even a meaningful death; ben killing him was stupid and sad. his death only meant anything because ben manipulated jack into thinking it did.
and then the real puppetmaster - the man in black - wore his body around to kill off jacob, and eventually, RIGHT after jack finally accepted his own “destiny,” he died. which would never have happened if locke hadn’t died. jack was a stubborn idiot and his bad choices directly led to the deaths of countless people he swore to protect, most of whom he showed no remorse over.
every character that died but managed to do anything meaningful in the show, their actions were only meaningful within the subplot of the jacob-MiB feud. they were literally all pawns that died for nothing.
juliet’s death was absurd, based on faraday’s wildly incorrect notion that the incident would solve all of their problems. she was wrong when she said “it worked;” it didn’t, she was just on the edge of death and seeing into her afterlife. she just died, plain and simple, and never got to leave the island, never got to see her sister or her baby, she just died. that’s it.
sun and jin… jin never even got to meet ji yeon. it’s just sad as shit.
LOST is just sad. it’s grief. it’s a bunch of people being coerced into finding meaning in things that had no meaning. the only thing that actually had meaning was their relationships that led to them being connected in the afterlife. but their lives were sad, pathetic, problematic, or otherwise just wasted. the whole show is sad as shit.
the obvious exception is hugo. he chose to be the island’s protector and he was the one person good enough to have been able to do it well. that’s the one saving grace of the entirety of the main narrative in my opinion.
anyways, rant over. LOST is my favorite show, and i doubt i’ve watched it half as many times as i will by the time i die. i feel less cynical now when i watch it, but certain moments always enrage me - most notably, jack calling the freighter, and locke dying. stupid shit.
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i’ve seen lost fully through 10 times as of last month, and seasons 1-3 probably 5 more times due to all of the times i’ve started it with people that didn’t finish it.
in my 8th watch, it hit me: this show is fucking depressing. the TLDR is that two demigods bent on proving each other wrong manipulated a bunch of people and got them all killed.
locke found his destiny - which was the island’s pull on him, not just jacob’s - and was manipulated into choosing his own death rather than properly leading the island. it could have gone countless different ways - he could have had jack leave through the orchid, promising him that he would actually be able to leave and persuading him that he could send help for everyone else once he did. and it wasn’t even a meaningful death; ben killing him was stupid and sad. his death only meant anything because ben manipulated jack into thinking it did.
and then the real puppetmaster - the man in black - wore his body around to kill off jacob, and eventually, RIGHT after jack finally accepted his own “destiny,” he died. which would never have happened if locke hadn’t died. jack was a stubborn idiot and his bad choices directly led to the deaths of countless people he swore to protect, most of whom he showed no remorse over.
every character that died but managed to do anything meaningful in the show, their actions were only meaningful within the subplot of the jacob-MiB feud. they were literally all pawns that died for nothing.
juliet’s death was absurd, based on faraday’s wildly incorrect notion that the incident would solve all of their problems. she was wrong when she said “it worked;” it didn’t, she was just on the edge of death and seeing into her afterlife. she just died, plain and simple, and never got to leave the island, never got to see her sister or her baby, she just died. that’s it.
sun and jin… jin never even got to meet ji yeon. it’s just sad as shit.
LOST is just sad. it’s grief. it’s a bunch of people being coerced into finding meaning in things that had no meaning. the only thing that actually had meaning was their relationships that led to them being connected in the afterlife. but their lives were sad, pathetic, problematic, or otherwise just wasted. the whole show is sad as shit.
the obvious exception is hugo. he chose to be the island’s protector and he was the one person good enough to have been able to do it well. that’s the one saving grace of the entirety of the main narrative in my opinion.
anyways, rant over. LOST is my favorite show, and i doubt i’ve watched it half as many times as i will by the time i die. i feel less cynical now when i watch it, but certain moments always enrage me - most notably, jack calling the freighter, and locke dying. stupid shit.
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Deleted scene 'Desert Stash' - Second Ben
Just been watching the deleted scenes on one of the blu rays.
There is a deleted scene where after being transported to the desert Ben visits a stash of money and passports. Whilst visiting it he seems to look over to another version of himself lying on the floor. I wonder what the purpose of this would have been
Any thoughts?
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Just been watching the deleted scenes on one of the blu rays.
There is a deleted scene where after being transported to the desert Ben visits a stash of money and passports. Whilst visiting it he seems to look over to another version of himself lying on the floor. I wonder what the purpose of this would have been
Any thoughts?
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Episode Two of my hypothetical LOST Season 7 is done - “Because You Stayed”
Episode Two of my hypothetical LOST Season 7 is finished.
It’s been almost two weeks since I posted the premiere. I kept working on the season, and Episode One is still locked. If you missed that post and want the whole original premise/rules/whatever, it’s here.
I was a little bummed the first post mostly sank, because I’d hoped to get thoughts from similarly-minded people who have spent an unreasonable amount of time thinking about LOST. I also think I buried something important under way too much explanation the first time:
I don’t really want LOST to come back either.
I think “The End” is a perfect ending. I’m not campaigning for Disney to make Season 7, and if the show stayed untouched forever I would be more than fine with that.
I also don’t especially trust Hollywood to leave a beloved thing alone forever. That’s the hypothetical I’m playing with: if somebody eventually decides to bring LOST back whether I want them to or not, what would the best possible version of that look like to me? More specifically: what would it take for somebody whose first reaction is “please don’t fuck up LOST” to watch a revival and be pleasantly surprised that it was actually good? Because that’s essentially my own starting point.
So if anyone here says LOST should be left alone, I’m not trying to convince you you’re wrong. Those are pretty much the people I’m imagining reading/“watching” this thing.
I’m still going to keep writing it because I’ve spent a ridiculous amount of my life thinking about this show, I like writing, and brainstorming the season I’ve plotted out has been incredibly fun. There’s also something appealing to me about putting a genuinely new LOST thing into the world for other fans to poke at instead of having another argument about Kate or restating that they weren’t dead the whole time.
Anyway.
LOST - Season 7, Episode 2: “**Because You Stayed**”
Episode One was intentionally pretty big. Episode Two pulls inward - smaller, more character-focused, more jungle, a centric story, and generally something closer to the scale of early LOST.
The second this post is live, Episode Two is locked. If you read it, feel free to engage. You can love something, hate something, call bullshit on something, predict where I’m going, or point out something that looks like a mistake. Other than the possibility of any of you catching a typo, I won’t be going back and rewriting the posted episodes around the reaction.
I’m just going to keep making the season.
PDF:
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Episode Two of my hypothetical LOST Season 7 is finished.
It’s been almost two weeks since I posted the premiere. I kept working on the season, and Episode One is still locked. If you missed that post and want the whole original premise/rules/whatever, it’s here.
I was a little bummed the first post mostly sank, because I’d hoped to get thoughts from similarly-minded people who have spent an unreasonable amount of time thinking about LOST. I also think I buried something important under way too much explanation the first time:
I don’t really want LOST to come back either.
I think “The End” is a perfect ending. I’m not campaigning for Disney to make Season 7, and if the show stayed untouched forever I would be more than fine with that.
I also don’t especially trust Hollywood to leave a beloved thing alone forever. That’s the hypothetical I’m playing with: if somebody eventually decides to bring LOST back whether I want them to or not, what would the best possible version of that look like to me? More specifically: what would it take for somebody whose first reaction is “please don’t fuck up LOST” to watch a revival and be pleasantly surprised that it was actually good? Because that’s essentially my own starting point.
So if anyone here says LOST should be left alone, I’m not trying to convince you you’re wrong. Those are pretty much the people I’m imagining reading/“watching” this thing.
I’m still going to keep writing it because I’ve spent a ridiculous amount of my life thinking about this show, I like writing, and brainstorming the season I’ve plotted out has been incredibly fun. There’s also something appealing to me about putting a genuinely new LOST thing into the world for other fans to poke at instead of having another argument about Kate or restating that they weren’t dead the whole time.
Anyway.
LOST - Season 7, Episode 2: “**Because You Stayed**”
Episode One was intentionally pretty big. Episode Two pulls inward - smaller, more character-focused, more jungle, a centric story, and generally something closer to the scale of early LOST.
The second this post is live, Episode Two is locked. If you read it, feel free to engage. You can love something, hate something, call bullshit on something, predict where I’m going, or point out something that looks like a mistake. Other than the possibility of any of you catching a typo, I won’t be going back and rewriting the posted episodes around the reaction.
I’m just going to keep making the season.
PDF:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vFy7VRR4hS-r0LIL8Fu8YLyreO1xJrt4/view?usp=drivesdk
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Was pleasantly surprised to see this while reading The Flash/Green Lantern
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S4E4 eggtown
Just rewatched and noticed that when clocked gives Ben his breakfast he said they were the last eggs. Then he goes on to kill the chicken. So there could have been more eggs, right?
What does this tell us about Locke at this moment? Is he killing the chicken to provide for his group, trying to be a good leader? Is he showing that he’s so confident that the island won’t let them starve that he can kill the last chicken?
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Just rewatched and noticed that when clocked gives Ben his breakfast he said they were the last eggs. Then he goes on to kill the chicken. So there could have been more eggs, right?
What does this tell us about Locke at this moment? Is he killing the chicken to provide for his group, trying to be a good leader? Is he showing that he’s so confident that the island won’t let them starve that he can kill the last chicken?
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Not Penny's Podcast New Episodes!
After some time away (life always finds a way, huh?) Rebecca and I are back!! If you're new, Rebecca and I host Not Penny's Podcast, a LOST rewatch podcast with a twist: One of us is a devoted Lostie, and the other is watching for the very first time!
Show is on just about every major podcast platform (Apple, Amazon Music, Pocketcasts), as well as Youtube (Audio only. We don't produce video content)!
We always welcome comments and feedback, but please don't post spoilers. We are currently coming to the end of Season 1, and are getting to a regular weekly schedule. We typically record 1-2 episodes per show, but reserve premieres/finales and standout episodes for solo shows.
Come and join us!
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0YwjsOWKS16irn1URqAE0j?si=ccca5689d56345f6
Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/not-pennys-podcast/id1869430481
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@notpennyspodcast
Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/05f00f21-8522-4660-9d69-aaaddcf4c6d7/not-penny's-podcast
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After some time away (life always finds a way, huh?) Rebecca and I are back!! If you're new, Rebecca and I host Not Penny's Podcast, a LOST rewatch podcast with a twist: One of us is a devoted Lostie, and the other is watching for the very first time!
Show is on just about every major podcast platform (Apple, Amazon Music, Pocketcasts), as well as Youtube (Audio only. We don't produce video content)!
We always welcome comments and feedback, but please don't post spoilers. We are currently coming to the end of Season 1, and are getting to a regular weekly schedule. We typically record 1-2 episodes per show, but reserve premieres/finales and standout episodes for solo shows.
Come and join us!
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0YwjsOWKS16irn1URqAE0j?si=ccca5689d56345f6
Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/not-pennys-podcast/id1869430481
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@notpennyspodcast
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Not Penny's Podcast
Podcast · Not Penny’s Podcast · Welcome to Not Penny's Podcast, a rewatch podcast of the hit ABC show, "LOST", but with a twist. Your host, Michael, is a diehard Lostie, but his co-host, Rebecca, has never watched it! Come along with us as we got back to…
Episodes that hit you hardest?
Lost is such an awesome show! Every time I rewatch it, I relate to another character depending on what position in life I'm at. What are some of the episodes that hit you the hardest and really made you think about life? For me, it has to be "Greatest Hits" when Charlie was listing the most significant and happy moments in life. I think it's the episode before "Through the Looking Glass" parts 1 and 2.
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Lost is such an awesome show! Every time I rewatch it, I relate to another character depending on what position in life I'm at. What are some of the episodes that hit you the hardest and really made you think about life? For me, it has to be "Greatest Hits" when Charlie was listing the most significant and happy moments in life. I think it's the episode before "Through the Looking Glass" parts 1 and 2.
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Just finished! (spoilers)
Hey everyone. My girlfriend and I just finished Lost for the first time and I wanted to hop in here to share my thoughts immediately after the finale! I’ve longed to interact with this reddit community since we started a few months ago but I have purposely refused to enter until we were done. Here goes!
My favorite character: Desmond. His entire arc of getting to the island and then navigating the afterlife to get everyone back together was done so well. Especially with his connection to the Island, him being the first one to recognize that this “life” was off was great. High honorable mention to John Locke, Sawyer, and Jin. Loved them all as well.
The best character: Jack. Every memory and experience on the island felt like it revolved around Jack, even when it was other character arcs or events. The show starting with him and then ending in the exact same way was amazing. His emotional and unrational decision making had us frustrated at times but it felt like the design of a flawed but pretty perfect character.
My least favorite character: Not necessarily sure I have one to pick but I really wasn’t a huge fan of Charlie. His flashback with Claire and Kate in the afterlife was incredibly emotional but to put it simply, he annoyed me. However, him telling Desmond “Not Pennys Boat” was so unbelievably good that it redeemed him for me. I wasn’t a huge fan of Michael either. Meh.
Best character development: Sawyer. His constant progression as a character was masterfully done. Them opening back up the emotional side that he tried to suppress for so long cause of his trauma was incredible. Also his connection with Juliet and then having their flashes together in the hospital had the floodgates opening up. Perfect.
Favorite moment: The End. I’d heard that the finale was a bit subjective (thanks dad) but never had any spoilers. I could not be more satisfied. The characters returning to each other in the afterlife, especially the ones we lost during the show, was emotional and beautiful. Had me crying but smiling. I loved it.
Some of my other favorite moments off the top of my head include:
The light turning on in the hatch while John was over it. Audible gasp.
Michael typing on the computer and Walt responding “dad?”
Sayid reuniting with Shannon in the afterlife. Especially with him losing her so early into their relationship. Good to see Boone again too!
Ethan “not being on the manifest” was such a incredible.
The initial Jacob reveal and then all the flashbacks of him meeting everyone.
The first flash back in time and then seeing the original Dharma village up and running.
Jin and Sun reuniting on the beach after Sun comes back.
Every time we had a flash forward event and somehow someway Ben was there in the shadows.
So many more but those are my big booms.
Overall, it was the best TV show I’ve ever watched. We was so attached to (almost) every character and the thought put into the development of their arcs. Continuity eggs throughout every season were so well done. The uniqueness of it was unlike any show I’ve ever watched. What do I do now?!
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Hey everyone. My girlfriend and I just finished Lost for the first time and I wanted to hop in here to share my thoughts immediately after the finale! I’ve longed to interact with this reddit community since we started a few months ago but I have purposely refused to enter until we were done. Here goes!
My favorite character: Desmond. His entire arc of getting to the island and then navigating the afterlife to get everyone back together was done so well. Especially with his connection to the Island, him being the first one to recognize that this “life” was off was great. High honorable mention to John Locke, Sawyer, and Jin. Loved them all as well.
The best character: Jack. Every memory and experience on the island felt like it revolved around Jack, even when it was other character arcs or events. The show starting with him and then ending in the exact same way was amazing. His emotional and unrational decision making had us frustrated at times but it felt like the design of a flawed but pretty perfect character.
My least favorite character: Not necessarily sure I have one to pick but I really wasn’t a huge fan of Charlie. His flashback with Claire and Kate in the afterlife was incredibly emotional but to put it simply, he annoyed me. However, him telling Desmond “Not Pennys Boat” was so unbelievably good that it redeemed him for me. I wasn’t a huge fan of Michael either. Meh.
Best character development: Sawyer. His constant progression as a character was masterfully done. Them opening back up the emotional side that he tried to suppress for so long cause of his trauma was incredible. Also his connection with Juliet and then having their flashes together in the hospital had the floodgates opening up. Perfect.
Favorite moment: The End. I’d heard that the finale was a bit subjective (thanks dad) but never had any spoilers. I could not be more satisfied. The characters returning to each other in the afterlife, especially the ones we lost during the show, was emotional and beautiful. Had me crying but smiling. I loved it.
Some of my other favorite moments off the top of my head include:
The light turning on in the hatch while John was over it. Audible gasp.
Michael typing on the computer and Walt responding “dad?”
Sayid reuniting with Shannon in the afterlife. Especially with him losing her so early into their relationship. Good to see Boone again too!
Ethan “not being on the manifest” was such a incredible.
The initial Jacob reveal and then all the flashbacks of him meeting everyone.
The first flash back in time and then seeing the original Dharma village up and running.
Jin and Sun reuniting on the beach after Sun comes back.
Every time we had a flash forward event and somehow someway Ben was there in the shadows.
So many more but those are my big booms.
Overall, it was the best TV show I’ve ever watched. We was so attached to (almost) every character and the thought put into the development of their arcs. Continuity eggs throughout every season were so well done. The uniqueness of it was unlike any show I’ve ever watched. What do I do now?!
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