Who else picked up "brother"?
I kinda am infected by the Desmond bug and my friends now ask me about why I keep saying "brother" all the time.
Has anyone else caught this habit too, even if briefly!?
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I kinda am infected by the Desmond bug and my friends now ask me about why I keep saying "brother" all the time.
Has anyone else caught this habit too, even if briefly!?
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Watching Bojack horseman and found this LOST reference and hurley's cameo too lol.
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Jacob, MIB, and the Allegory of the Cave
I finished the show a few days ago for the first time so obviously I've been thinking about it non-stop since then. One thing I've been fixating on is how it uses Plato's Allegory of the Cave.
Jacob and MIB represent the people inside the cave. Born on the island, raised on the island, told there's nothing else but the island until the MIB is greeted by the ghost of his birth mother who tells him the truth, and it's a painful truth, that there's so much more to the world than what's on the island. Eventually, the MIB decides to leave the island with the others and when their "mother" kills all the others, he kills her and Jacob kills him (or knocks him unconscious) and his body goes down the waterfall. It's important that Jacob has actually not ever seen the light first hand, only the reflection of the light off the back of the cave where the stream is running, and whether the MIB is alive or dead we don't know, but his body at least entered the chamber where the light was.
This doesn't follow the Allegory 1:1 and I think that's intentional and it asks a few pointed questions.
1) Will a human who came here from off the island choose to become the protector? This is directly tied to the debate that Jacob and the MIB have about humans. Will someone from off-island who wasn't raised with the same conditions that Jacob was raised with and given a real choice choose to become the protector of the island? Jacob picks his candidates, and the candidates rule themselves out either by dying or in Kate's example becoming a mother with someone off the island that they need to care for. And MIB tries to get them to kill each other indirectly and prove Jacob wrong (he can't kill the candidates personally, but he can create scenarios by which they die by choices they make or create tension by which they kill each other).
2) It reframes the roles that Jacob and the MIB play from pure good/evil to more nuanced. In the Cave Allegory, it's seen as a mistake to return and stay in the cave after seeing the outside. Jacob does see slices of humanity through his lighthouse but never seems to have any desire to live among them, meanwhile MIB learns about the outside world and lives with the outsiders for some time and wants to leave with them and is physically, essentially permanently, stopped by Jacob. This seems to undercut the show's own moral geometry by asking if the MIB had any right to seek the world across the sea and makes the MIB something of a tragic character turned villain and making Jacob something of a morally flawed protector who doesn't really even know exactly what he's protecting.
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I finished the show a few days ago for the first time so obviously I've been thinking about it non-stop since then. One thing I've been fixating on is how it uses Plato's Allegory of the Cave.
Jacob and MIB represent the people inside the cave. Born on the island, raised on the island, told there's nothing else but the island until the MIB is greeted by the ghost of his birth mother who tells him the truth, and it's a painful truth, that there's so much more to the world than what's on the island. Eventually, the MIB decides to leave the island with the others and when their "mother" kills all the others, he kills her and Jacob kills him (or knocks him unconscious) and his body goes down the waterfall. It's important that Jacob has actually not ever seen the light first hand, only the reflection of the light off the back of the cave where the stream is running, and whether the MIB is alive or dead we don't know, but his body at least entered the chamber where the light was.
This doesn't follow the Allegory 1:1 and I think that's intentional and it asks a few pointed questions.
1) Will a human who came here from off the island choose to become the protector? This is directly tied to the debate that Jacob and the MIB have about humans. Will someone from off-island who wasn't raised with the same conditions that Jacob was raised with and given a real choice choose to become the protector of the island? Jacob picks his candidates, and the candidates rule themselves out either by dying or in Kate's example becoming a mother with someone off the island that they need to care for. And MIB tries to get them to kill each other indirectly and prove Jacob wrong (he can't kill the candidates personally, but he can create scenarios by which they die by choices they make or create tension by which they kill each other).
2) It reframes the roles that Jacob and the MIB play from pure good/evil to more nuanced. In the Cave Allegory, it's seen as a mistake to return and stay in the cave after seeing the outside. Jacob does see slices of humanity through his lighthouse but never seems to have any desire to live among them, meanwhile MIB learns about the outside world and lives with the outsiders for some time and wants to leave with them and is physically, essentially permanently, stopped by Jacob. This seems to undercut the show's own moral geometry by asking if the MIB had any right to seek the world across the sea and makes the MIB something of a tragic character turned villain and making Jacob something of a morally flawed protector who doesn't really even know exactly what he's protecting.
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Season 6: I was wrong
Wow. I know I said season 5 was the start to the downfall of this show but I stand corrected. This final season held its own and cemented the series as one of the best for its era.
Across the sea was an episode that really made everything click for me. The origin story of jacob and "the man in black" is what people seem to call him was tragic but necessary for the light to persevere. For the greater good the ends justify the means. The reveal at the end showing that the mother and tmib were the skeletons from s1 was tied together to perfection.
Moving on to the finale. Starting it off with how jack threw that superman punch was hilarious. The final fight between jack and tmib locke was
underwhelming but realistic considering hes mortal so i can appreciate it. All the alternate dimension scenes turning out to be purgatory was something i didnt see coming. Its a devestating reveal because you think that their plan in season 5 worked but it was all for naught. Juliets life ended when she struck that bomb. Jin never got to meet his daughter. The truth hits hard after jack and his fathers conversation. Him reuniting with all the plane crash survivors is so bittersweet. Thinking logically how are half of them going to heaven when they're murderers. Also for those who got to live after jack dies, did they really not find another partner that they go to heaven with the one from the island (kate, sawyer). Just a nitpick that i know is done for the fans but very reminiscint of the titanic. Overall i enjoyed the series and the the full circle moment of jack dying right where it all started.
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Wow. I know I said season 5 was the start to the downfall of this show but I stand corrected. This final season held its own and cemented the series as one of the best for its era.
Across the sea was an episode that really made everything click for me. The origin story of jacob and "the man in black" is what people seem to call him was tragic but necessary for the light to persevere. For the greater good the ends justify the means. The reveal at the end showing that the mother and tmib were the skeletons from s1 was tied together to perfection.
Moving on to the finale. Starting it off with how jack threw that superman punch was hilarious. The final fight between jack and tmib locke was
underwhelming but realistic considering hes mortal so i can appreciate it. All the alternate dimension scenes turning out to be purgatory was something i didnt see coming. Its a devestating reveal because you think that their plan in season 5 worked but it was all for naught. Juliets life ended when she struck that bomb. Jin never got to meet his daughter. The truth hits hard after jack and his fathers conversation. Him reuniting with all the plane crash survivors is so bittersweet. Thinking logically how are half of them going to heaven when they're murderers. Also for those who got to live after jack dies, did they really not find another partner that they go to heaven with the one from the island (kate, sawyer). Just a nitpick that i know is done for the fans but very reminiscint of the titanic. Overall i enjoyed the series and the the full circle moment of jack dying right where it all started.
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Was anyone else surprised by the reveal in…
Across the Sea when it was revealed the two skeletons Jack found in the cave were the Man in Black and his mother, and that he’d put the black rock (not a coincidence i’m sure!) in a pouch?
Haven’t seen the next episode yet, I’m posting this after having watched Across the Sea for the first time
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Across the Sea when it was revealed the two skeletons Jack found in the cave were the Man in Black and his mother, and that he’d put the black rock (not a coincidence i’m sure!) in a pouch?
Haven’t seen the next episode yet, I’m posting this after having watched Across the Sea for the first time
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Video from The Onion about Lost's final season.
In the run-up to the final season of LOST airing, The Onion posted a parody video report covering how the producers of the show were warning people who don't watch the show that their friends and family who do watch were going to become harder to live with. Damon and Carleton participated. The video is no longer on The Onion's YouTube channel, and I couldn't bring it up on the Wayback machine. Does anyone have a copy of it? Or a place where I can stream it?
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In the run-up to the final season of LOST airing, The Onion posted a parody video report covering how the producers of the show were warning people who don't watch the show that their friends and family who do watch were going to become harder to live with. Damon and Carleton participated. The video is no longer on The Onion's YouTube channel, and I couldn't bring it up on the Wayback machine. Does anyone have a copy of it? Or a place where I can stream it?
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Watching Chronologically LOST
I watch Lost every two years since it came out, and each time I find something new I missed before. Now I'm watching Chronologically LOST and it feels weird... I'm on Ep. 5. Yes it is Chronologically cut but characters are appear from nowhere 😅 anyway it is still fun to watch. Any tips while im watching this Chronologically LOST?
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I watch Lost every two years since it came out, and each time I find something new I missed before. Now I'm watching Chronologically LOST and it feels weird... I'm on Ep. 5. Yes it is Chronologically cut but characters are appear from nowhere 😅 anyway it is still fun to watch. Any tips while im watching this Chronologically LOST?
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What are each of the cast members best/most popular shows other than lost?
I recently just finished my first rewatch since the show first aired and I forgot just how much I loved everyone's performances. I have only seen Evangeline Lilly outside of the show, especially since I don't watch a lot of shows. I would like to know what people's thoughts are on other shows that the cast have been in
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I recently just finished my first rewatch since the show first aired and I forgot just how much I loved everyone's performances. I have only seen Evangeline Lilly outside of the show, especially since I don't watch a lot of shows. I would like to know what people's thoughts are on other shows that the cast have been in
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