Which Lost characters do you think are the most underrated and overrated by fans, IMO?
Name the characters you think the fanbase loves and puts on a pedestal for no real reason, and the ones who actually deserved more attention in the fandom but often fly under the radar. Share your takes — no insults or arguments like “he just annoys me, I can’t explain why.”
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Name the characters you think the fanbase loves and puts on a pedestal for no real reason, and the ones who actually deserved more attention in the fandom but often fly under the radar. Share your takes — no insults or arguments like “he just annoys me, I can’t explain why.”
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Airport thoughts
Maybe a stupid post but i still wanted to share it.
Something different then the ‘i hate or love Jack and i hate Anna Lucia’ posts.
A week ago i went on a vacation and while waiting at the gate and in the airplane i was scanning people for IF i the plane would crash on a island.
I was just there alone in my Lost vibe thinking all these strangers would get names. Who would be nice to hang out with, who are the assholes, beautiful people, etc.
Anybody ever had that or its just my crazy Lost mind?
I must say in real life it arent the characters like in a tv show. So many parents with children and couples etc, happy it didnt crash.
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Maybe a stupid post but i still wanted to share it.
Something different then the ‘i hate or love Jack and i hate Anna Lucia’ posts.
A week ago i went on a vacation and while waiting at the gate and in the airplane i was scanning people for IF i the plane would crash on a island.
I was just there alone in my Lost vibe thinking all these strangers would get names. Who would be nice to hang out with, who are the assholes, beautiful people, etc.
Anybody ever had that or its just my crazy Lost mind?
I must say in real life it arent the characters like in a tv show. So many parents with children and couples etc, happy it didnt crash.
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Let's talk about Locke's "destiny"
I just did a rewatch after a long break from the show. And man... I always forget about how tragic Locke's storyline is.
I know Locke has a lot of haters but I personally love his optimism and his faith. I wish he could've had more vindication and been alive to witness it.
Let me summarize:
Locke lives a life battling with his insignificance, arrives on the Island healed and now believes he has a purpose (he's right - he's a candidate brought there by Jacob).
But then gets everything about his role wrong.
He believes he's destined to lead, but that's mostly because of the time-loop (his conversation with Richard). He thinks the Island is guiding him, but it's the MIB.
He leaves on a mission, fails, and attempts suicide.
Then MIB uses Locke's own appearance to try to destroy the Island that Locke loved.
Lock is important but indirectly... it's Locke's actions and faith that ultimately turn Jack into the person who can save the Island. But Locke doesn't even get to witness Jack's "conversion".
Jack says: “I just wish I could’ve told him that while he was still alive.”
I'm mourning for my man Locke that he didn't get to play a better role. Feels unfair for a character who I really wanted to see succeed.
Anyways this show is awesome, and I'm also a big Jack fan and love the ending. Just mad respect for John Locke. He deserved better.
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I just did a rewatch after a long break from the show. And man... I always forget about how tragic Locke's storyline is.
I know Locke has a lot of haters but I personally love his optimism and his faith. I wish he could've had more vindication and been alive to witness it.
Let me summarize:
Locke lives a life battling with his insignificance, arrives on the Island healed and now believes he has a purpose (he's right - he's a candidate brought there by Jacob).
But then gets everything about his role wrong.
He believes he's destined to lead, but that's mostly because of the time-loop (his conversation with Richard). He thinks the Island is guiding him, but it's the MIB.
He leaves on a mission, fails, and attempts suicide.
Then MIB uses Locke's own appearance to try to destroy the Island that Locke loved.
Lock is important but indirectly... it's Locke's actions and faith that ultimately turn Jack into the person who can save the Island. But Locke doesn't even get to witness Jack's "conversion".
Jack says: “I just wish I could’ve told him that while he was still alive.”
I'm mourning for my man Locke that he didn't get to play a better role. Feels unfair for a character who I really wanted to see succeed.
Anyways this show is awesome, and I'm also a big Jack fan and love the ending. Just mad respect for John Locke. He deserved better.
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smoke monster... naked??
Just finished my first watch! I honestly loved this show. It was very silly at times, but it really was just such good TV. I love where characters grow and change over time and I have ever shifting opinions about them. This all leads to my silly (spoiler!!) question:
When the smoke monster switches between his smoke to human form... is he naked? Does he have to keep spare changes of clothing stashed around the island? When he changes forms, does everything on him shred like the Twilight-ish werewolf lore? In the end of s6, he walks out from behind a building after transitioning from smoke to man and iirc is wearing his backpack/knife along with his regular change of clothes. But how?? Did he deposit everything behind the building beforehand? Does the Island protect his modesty?
Question that doesn't REALLY matter or affect the lore but I read shifter books (🤷🏼♀️) and I can't stop thinking about this.
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Just finished my first watch! I honestly loved this show. It was very silly at times, but it really was just such good TV. I love where characters grow and change over time and I have ever shifting opinions about them. This all leads to my silly (spoiler!!) question:
When the smoke monster switches between his smoke to human form... is he naked? Does he have to keep spare changes of clothing stashed around the island? When he changes forms, does everything on him shred like the Twilight-ish werewolf lore? In the end of s6, he walks out from behind a building after transitioning from smoke to man and iirc is wearing his backpack/knife along with his regular change of clothes. But how?? Did he deposit everything behind the building beforehand? Does the Island protect his modesty?
Question that doesn't REALLY matter or affect the lore but I read shifter books (🤷🏼♀️) and I can't stop thinking about this.
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I just finished!!!
Oh my God, this is the best series ever, perfect from beginning to end!
How will I live without it now? I have to watch it again!!!
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Oh my God, this is the best series ever, perfect from beginning to end!
How will I live without it now? I have to watch it again!!!
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Lost box set $50 on iTunes (matching all time low price)
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Weird little detail
It’s weird that Christian gives Ana Lucia the name “Sarah”, right? I’ve seen the show so many times and this is the first time I’ve noticed that.
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It’s weird that Christian gives Ana Lucia the name “Sarah”, right? I’ve seen the show so many times and this is the first time I’ve noticed that.
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Who else picked up "brother"?
I kinda am infected by the Desmond bug and my friends now ask me about why I keep saying "brother" all the time.
Has anyone else caught this habit too, even if briefly!?
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I kinda am infected by the Desmond bug and my friends now ask me about why I keep saying "brother" all the time.
Has anyone else caught this habit too, even if briefly!?
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Watching Bojack horseman and found this LOST reference and hurley's cameo too lol.
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Jacob, MIB, and the Allegory of the Cave
I finished the show a few days ago for the first time so obviously I've been thinking about it non-stop since then. One thing I've been fixating on is how it uses Plato's Allegory of the Cave.
Jacob and MIB represent the people inside the cave. Born on the island, raised on the island, told there's nothing else but the island until the MIB is greeted by the ghost of his birth mother who tells him the truth, and it's a painful truth, that there's so much more to the world than what's on the island. Eventually, the MIB decides to leave the island with the others and when their "mother" kills all the others, he kills her and Jacob kills him (or knocks him unconscious) and his body goes down the waterfall. It's important that Jacob has actually not ever seen the light first hand, only the reflection of the light off the back of the cave where the stream is running, and whether the MIB is alive or dead we don't know, but his body at least entered the chamber where the light was.
This doesn't follow the Allegory 1:1 and I think that's intentional and it asks a few pointed questions.
1) Will a human who came here from off the island choose to become the protector? This is directly tied to the debate that Jacob and the MIB have about humans. Will someone from off-island who wasn't raised with the same conditions that Jacob was raised with and given a real choice choose to become the protector of the island? Jacob picks his candidates, and the candidates rule themselves out either by dying or in Kate's example becoming a mother with someone off the island that they need to care for. And MIB tries to get them to kill each other indirectly and prove Jacob wrong (he can't kill the candidates personally, but he can create scenarios by which they die by choices they make or create tension by which they kill each other).
2) It reframes the roles that Jacob and the MIB play from pure good/evil to more nuanced. In the Cave Allegory, it's seen as a mistake to return and stay in the cave after seeing the outside. Jacob does see slices of humanity through his lighthouse but never seems to have any desire to live among them, meanwhile MIB learns about the outside world and lives with the outsiders for some time and wants to leave with them and is physically, essentially permanently, stopped by Jacob. This seems to undercut the show's own moral geometry by asking if the MIB had any right to seek the world across the sea and makes the MIB something of a tragic character turned villain and making Jacob something of a morally flawed protector who doesn't really even know exactly what he's protecting.
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I finished the show a few days ago for the first time so obviously I've been thinking about it non-stop since then. One thing I've been fixating on is how it uses Plato's Allegory of the Cave.
Jacob and MIB represent the people inside the cave. Born on the island, raised on the island, told there's nothing else but the island until the MIB is greeted by the ghost of his birth mother who tells him the truth, and it's a painful truth, that there's so much more to the world than what's on the island. Eventually, the MIB decides to leave the island with the others and when their "mother" kills all the others, he kills her and Jacob kills him (or knocks him unconscious) and his body goes down the waterfall. It's important that Jacob has actually not ever seen the light first hand, only the reflection of the light off the back of the cave where the stream is running, and whether the MIB is alive or dead we don't know, but his body at least entered the chamber where the light was.
This doesn't follow the Allegory 1:1 and I think that's intentional and it asks a few pointed questions.
1) Will a human who came here from off the island choose to become the protector? This is directly tied to the debate that Jacob and the MIB have about humans. Will someone from off-island who wasn't raised with the same conditions that Jacob was raised with and given a real choice choose to become the protector of the island? Jacob picks his candidates, and the candidates rule themselves out either by dying or in Kate's example becoming a mother with someone off the island that they need to care for. And MIB tries to get them to kill each other indirectly and prove Jacob wrong (he can't kill the candidates personally, but he can create scenarios by which they die by choices they make or create tension by which they kill each other).
2) It reframes the roles that Jacob and the MIB play from pure good/evil to more nuanced. In the Cave Allegory, it's seen as a mistake to return and stay in the cave after seeing the outside. Jacob does see slices of humanity through his lighthouse but never seems to have any desire to live among them, meanwhile MIB learns about the outside world and lives with the outsiders for some time and wants to leave with them and is physically, essentially permanently, stopped by Jacob. This seems to undercut the show's own moral geometry by asking if the MIB had any right to seek the world across the sea and makes the MIB something of a tragic character turned villain and making Jacob something of a morally flawed protector who doesn't really even know exactly what he's protecting.
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Season 6: I was wrong
Wow. I know I said season 5 was the start to the downfall of this show but I stand corrected. This final season held its own and cemented the series as one of the best for its era.
Across the sea was an episode that really made everything click for me. The origin story of jacob and "the man in black" is what people seem to call him was tragic but necessary for the light to persevere. For the greater good the ends justify the means. The reveal at the end showing that the mother and tmib were the skeletons from s1 was tied together to perfection.
Moving on to the finale. Starting it off with how jack threw that superman punch was hilarious. The final fight between jack and tmib locke was
underwhelming but realistic considering hes mortal so i can appreciate it. All the alternate dimension scenes turning out to be purgatory was something i didnt see coming. Its a devestating reveal because you think that their plan in season 5 worked but it was all for naught. Juliets life ended when she struck that bomb. Jin never got to meet his daughter. The truth hits hard after jack and his fathers conversation. Him reuniting with all the plane crash survivors is so bittersweet. Thinking logically how are half of them going to heaven when they're murderers. Also for those who got to live after jack dies, did they really not find another partner that they go to heaven with the one from the island (kate, sawyer). Just a nitpick that i know is done for the fans but very reminiscint of the titanic. Overall i enjoyed the series and the the full circle moment of jack dying right where it all started.
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Wow. I know I said season 5 was the start to the downfall of this show but I stand corrected. This final season held its own and cemented the series as one of the best for its era.
Across the sea was an episode that really made everything click for me. The origin story of jacob and "the man in black" is what people seem to call him was tragic but necessary for the light to persevere. For the greater good the ends justify the means. The reveal at the end showing that the mother and tmib were the skeletons from s1 was tied together to perfection.
Moving on to the finale. Starting it off with how jack threw that superman punch was hilarious. The final fight between jack and tmib locke was
underwhelming but realistic considering hes mortal so i can appreciate it. All the alternate dimension scenes turning out to be purgatory was something i didnt see coming. Its a devestating reveal because you think that their plan in season 5 worked but it was all for naught. Juliets life ended when she struck that bomb. Jin never got to meet his daughter. The truth hits hard after jack and his fathers conversation. Him reuniting with all the plane crash survivors is so bittersweet. Thinking logically how are half of them going to heaven when they're murderers. Also for those who got to live after jack dies, did they really not find another partner that they go to heaven with the one from the island (kate, sawyer). Just a nitpick that i know is done for the fans but very reminiscint of the titanic. Overall i enjoyed the series and the the full circle moment of jack dying right where it all started.
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Was anyone else surprised by the reveal in…
Across the Sea when it was revealed the two skeletons Jack found in the cave were the Man in Black and his mother, and that he’d put the black rock (not a coincidence i’m sure!) in a pouch?
Haven’t seen the next episode yet, I’m posting this after having watched Across the Sea for the first time
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Across the Sea when it was revealed the two skeletons Jack found in the cave were the Man in Black and his mother, and that he’d put the black rock (not a coincidence i’m sure!) in a pouch?
Haven’t seen the next episode yet, I’m posting this after having watched Across the Sea for the first time
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