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The Great DQ
The total number of disqualified candidates in the Legislative Council election under the National Security law is greater than the total number of people disqualified in the last 4 years under various other reasons. The pursuit of democracy has become a 'crime' in the eyes of the autocrats.
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When the Hong Kong SAR Government Disqualify 12 Pro-democracy Candidates, They Deny At Least 169,304 Votes from Hongkongers
https://t.me/guardiansofhongkong/24121
Joshua Wong Questions the Authorities' Larger Plan of Prosecution under the National Security Law In Disguise of Disqualifications
https://t.me/guardiansofhongkong/23890
5 Returning Officers from Hong Kong Electoral Affairs Commission Who Disqualified 12 Pro-democracy Candidates in LegCo Election
https://t.me/guardiansofhongkong/23855
The Great DQ
The total number of disqualified candidates in the Legislative Council election under the National Security law is greater than the total number of people disqualified in the last 4 years under various other reasons. The pursuit of democracy has become a 'crime' in the eyes of the autocrats.
Related reading:
When the Hong Kong SAR Government Disqualify 12 Pro-democracy Candidates, They Deny At Least 169,304 Votes from Hongkongers
https://t.me/guardiansofhongkong/24121
Joshua Wong Questions the Authorities' Larger Plan of Prosecution under the National Security Law In Disguise of Disqualifications
https://t.me/guardiansofhongkong/23890
5 Returning Officers from Hong Kong Electoral Affairs Commission Who Disqualified 12 Pro-democracy Candidates in LegCo Election
https://t.me/guardiansofhongkong/23855
#LegCo #DQ #NoElection #ProvisionalCouncil #BeijingIntervention
Pro-democracy Lawmakers Eddie Chu and Raymond Chan Lean on Leaving LegCo to Denounce Beijing's Political Arrangement
Source: Stand News #Aug18
Read Part 1:
https://t.me/guardiansofhongkong/24384
Part 2:
https://t.me/guardiansofhongkong/24385
Part 3:
https://t.me/guardiansofhongkong/24386
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Pro-democracy Lawmakers Eddie Chu and Raymond Chan Lean on Leaving LegCo to Denounce Beijing's Political Arrangement
Source: Stand News #Aug18
Read Part 1:
https://t.me/guardiansofhongkong/24384
Part 2:
https://t.me/guardiansofhongkong/24385
Part 3:
https://t.me/guardiansofhongkong/24386
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#LegCo #DQ #NoElection #ProvisionalCouncil #BeijingIntervention
Pro-democracy Lawmakers Eddie Chu and Raymond Chan Lean on Leaving LegCo to Denounce Beijing's Political Arrangement: Consensus Via Polls
Part 1/3
While the Hong Kong government, backed by Beijing, postponed the #LegCo Election for a year, it has sparked intense debate among citizens whether incumbent pro-democracy legislators should stay for an extension of the Sixth Legislative Council under the current "arrangement" approved by Beijing.
The Democracy Camp Caucus had released a statement on Monday, stating that the "majority" of legislators lean towards staying for the extension. But Raymond Chan of People Power and Eddie Chu of Council Front have made an opposite stance, advocating for the pro-democracy camp to boycott the upcoming "Provisional Legislative Council".
Chu had stated in an interview that he believes that the CCP intends to make the pro-democracy camp "painlessly accept their political appointments" while destroying the results of the pro-democracy primaries. He stated that this is the second time since 1997 for Hong Kong to have an appointed parliament, that as Beijing is changing Hong Kong society through the National Security Law and other laws, pro-democracy legislators have a single chance and the responsibility to make a strong political stance.
As to rumours regarding Chu's earlier supposed stance of staying, Chu declined to comment on the issue, while emphasising that he wished for there to be a "trustworthy platform" for the pro-democracy camp to decide whether to leave or stay.
Chan explained that leaving sends the message of opposing Chief Executive Carrie Lam's decision to delay the elections using the epidemic as an excuse and the NPC's decision, stating that, "The NPC represents Beijing's wishes, not the will of Hongkongers." He wished the pro-democracy camp could "come and go together", but stated that "it's okay if they can't manage it."
Chu and Chan met with journalists separately on Tuesday, accepting interviews to explain their stance. Chu stated the pro-democracy primaries were an important milestone, that for pro-democracy supporters, winners of the primaries "were supposed to enter the Legislative Council". He continued that as the spotlight fell upon the four disqualified councillors and their extension of service as Beijing announced their decision to extend the Sixth Legislative Council, "it made everyone ignore the heart of the problem: that this is a de facto appointment of service", stating that the pro-democracy camp's decision to accept the "appointment" would mean sabotaging the primaries results.
Chu stated that Beijing is "altering" Hong Kong society after the establishment of the National Security Law, arresting Jimmy Lai and Agnes Chow, while giving the Legislative Council preferential treatment, "as if they are welcoming us in open arms", making him more vigilant, as the Legislative Council is one of the few places the pro-democracy camp could publicly protest the government's political decision.
Continue Reading
Part 2:
https://t.me/guardiansofhongkong/24385
Part 3:
https://t.me/guardiansofhongkong/24386
Source: Stand News #Aug18
#EddieChu #RayChan
Pro-democracy Lawmakers Eddie Chu and Raymond Chan Lean on Leaving LegCo to Denounce Beijing's Political Arrangement: Consensus Via Polls
Part 1/3
While the Hong Kong government, backed by Beijing, postponed the #LegCo Election for a year, it has sparked intense debate among citizens whether incumbent pro-democracy legislators should stay for an extension of the Sixth Legislative Council under the current "arrangement" approved by Beijing.
The Democracy Camp Caucus had released a statement on Monday, stating that the "majority" of legislators lean towards staying for the extension. But Raymond Chan of People Power and Eddie Chu of Council Front have made an opposite stance, advocating for the pro-democracy camp to boycott the upcoming "Provisional Legislative Council".
Chu had stated in an interview that he believes that the CCP intends to make the pro-democracy camp "painlessly accept their political appointments" while destroying the results of the pro-democracy primaries. He stated that this is the second time since 1997 for Hong Kong to have an appointed parliament, that as Beijing is changing Hong Kong society through the National Security Law and other laws, pro-democracy legislators have a single chance and the responsibility to make a strong political stance.
As to rumours regarding Chu's earlier supposed stance of staying, Chu declined to comment on the issue, while emphasising that he wished for there to be a "trustworthy platform" for the pro-democracy camp to decide whether to leave or stay.
Chan explained that leaving sends the message of opposing Chief Executive Carrie Lam's decision to delay the elections using the epidemic as an excuse and the NPC's decision, stating that, "The NPC represents Beijing's wishes, not the will of Hongkongers." He wished the pro-democracy camp could "come and go together", but stated that "it's okay if they can't manage it."
Chu and Chan met with journalists separately on Tuesday, accepting interviews to explain their stance. Chu stated the pro-democracy primaries were an important milestone, that for pro-democracy supporters, winners of the primaries "were supposed to enter the Legislative Council". He continued that as the spotlight fell upon the four disqualified councillors and their extension of service as Beijing announced their decision to extend the Sixth Legislative Council, "it made everyone ignore the heart of the problem: that this is a de facto appointment of service", stating that the pro-democracy camp's decision to accept the "appointment" would mean sabotaging the primaries results.
Chu stated that Beijing is "altering" Hong Kong society after the establishment of the National Security Law, arresting Jimmy Lai and Agnes Chow, while giving the Legislative Council preferential treatment, "as if they are welcoming us in open arms", making him more vigilant, as the Legislative Council is one of the few places the pro-democracy camp could publicly protest the government's political decision.
Continue Reading
Part 2:
https://t.me/guardiansofhongkong/24385
Part 3:
https://t.me/guardiansofhongkong/24386
Source: Stand News #Aug18
#EddieChu #RayChan
#LegCo #DQ #NoElection #ProvisionalCouncil #BeijingIntervention
Pro-democracy Lawmakers Eddie Chu and Raymond Chan Lean on Leaving LegCo to Denounce Beijing's Political Arrangement
Part 2/3
Eddie Chu: Actively Attempting to Initiate Discussions
There had been recent rumours regarding pro-democracy lawmaker Eddie Chu's earlier stance of staying in the Legislative Council.
Chu denied the rumours twice during the interview, emphasising his efforts at initiating discussions on all sides and establishing a trustworthy platform for deciding the pro-democracy camp's place in the Legislative Council, stating that his previous stances "isn't important".
Chu emphasised that he was not attempting to sabotage the unity of the pro-democracy camp, instead stating that Beijing's decision to "appoint" the Legislative Council was the true sabotager.
He called for pro-democracy legislators and legislative candidates that won the primaries to form a "working platform" in the following two weeks for them to explain their stance, and to hold a trustworthy poll "to show the public opinion for all to see". He stated that this could make the pro-democracy legislators' actions have legitimacy whether or not they decide to leave or stay while undoing the CCP's sabotage.
But since Chu had expressed his stance on boycotting the "Provisional Legislative Council", and several pro-democratic parties' supposed stance of staying, debates sparked as to their decisions, with opinions for boycotting the extension of the Legislative Council bombarding pro-democratic legislators. Sunny Cheung, seen by many to be an ally of Chu, stated that "If the pan-democracy camp continues to be stubborn, they would be the ones who sabotage the democracy movement,"; simultaneously in Chu's declaratory article, he stated that was the pro-democracy camp to ignore the lack of public authorisation and chose to stay, they would reduce to "political retainers of the CCP who lack dignity".
When confronted with the possibility of the condemning damaging the prospects of reaching a consensus, Chu compared the situation during the primaries. "Condemnations are common," stating that while emotional attacks are meaningless, politicians should not be afraid of "such squabblings", as "many more negatives would arise" if people avoided discussions.
Despite his current stance, Chu believed that staying has its advantages, but stated that some Hongkongers had coursed away from full parliamentary resistance from last year, "Don't think that you can block one evil law at a time. When the situation becomes dire enough, people won't care, or may even welcome even worse situations."
Continue Reading Part 3:
https://t.me/guardiansofhongkong/24386
Source: Stand News #Aug18
#EddieChu #RayChan
Pro-democracy Lawmakers Eddie Chu and Raymond Chan Lean on Leaving LegCo to Denounce Beijing's Political Arrangement
Part 2/3
Eddie Chu: Actively Attempting to Initiate Discussions
There had been recent rumours regarding pro-democracy lawmaker Eddie Chu's earlier stance of staying in the Legislative Council.
Chu denied the rumours twice during the interview, emphasising his efforts at initiating discussions on all sides and establishing a trustworthy platform for deciding the pro-democracy camp's place in the Legislative Council, stating that his previous stances "isn't important".
Chu emphasised that he was not attempting to sabotage the unity of the pro-democracy camp, instead stating that Beijing's decision to "appoint" the Legislative Council was the true sabotager.
He called for pro-democracy legislators and legislative candidates that won the primaries to form a "working platform" in the following two weeks for them to explain their stance, and to hold a trustworthy poll "to show the public opinion for all to see". He stated that this could make the pro-democracy legislators' actions have legitimacy whether or not they decide to leave or stay while undoing the CCP's sabotage.
But since Chu had expressed his stance on boycotting the "Provisional Legislative Council", and several pro-democratic parties' supposed stance of staying, debates sparked as to their decisions, with opinions for boycotting the extension of the Legislative Council bombarding pro-democratic legislators. Sunny Cheung, seen by many to be an ally of Chu, stated that "If the pan-democracy camp continues to be stubborn, they would be the ones who sabotage the democracy movement,"; simultaneously in Chu's declaratory article, he stated that was the pro-democracy camp to ignore the lack of public authorisation and chose to stay, they would reduce to "political retainers of the CCP who lack dignity".
When confronted with the possibility of the condemning damaging the prospects of reaching a consensus, Chu compared the situation during the primaries. "Condemnations are common," stating that while emotional attacks are meaningless, politicians should not be afraid of "such squabblings", as "many more negatives would arise" if people avoided discussions.
Despite his current stance, Chu believed that staying has its advantages, but stated that some Hongkongers had coursed away from full parliamentary resistance from last year, "Don't think that you can block one evil law at a time. When the situation becomes dire enough, people won't care, or may even welcome even worse situations."
Continue Reading Part 3:
https://t.me/guardiansofhongkong/24386
Source: Stand News #Aug18
#EddieChu #RayChan
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Pro-democracy Lawmakers Eddie Chu and Raymond Chan Lean on Leaving LegCo to Denounce Beijing's Political Arrangement
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Wishing Legislators Would Prove Their Decisions With Action, Raymond…
#LegCo #DQ #NoElection #ProvisionalCouncil #BeijingIntervention
Pro-democracy Lawmakers Eddie Chu and Raymond Chan Lean on Leaving LegCo to Denounce Beijing's Political Arrangement
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Wishing Legislators Would Prove Their Decisions With Action, Raymond Chan: "Hadn't Done Their Best Last Year."
Pro-democracy lawmaker Raymond Chan, of People Power, agreed that the pro-democracy camp should decide with a referendum or a poll, stating that legislators should not stay without public authorisation.
"Although a lack of elections means a lack of public authorisation, they should only be allowed to stay if the public supports their decision." He continued that although he and
Pro-democracy lawmaker
Eddie Chu had suggested random polls around Hong Kong, not many people within the pro-democracy camp found interest with the suggestion.
When confronted with the dilemma of whether those who choose to stay could use to "Provisional Legislative Council"s power well", Chan expressed his concern, as he "[doesn't] know whether they are up to the task". He stated that he did not believe in denigrations from some members of the public, such as accusations that claimed "greediness" as the reason behind their stay. But he stated that those who lean towards staying should prove their decisions with actions, not repeating mantras such as "fight 'til the end".
Chan emphasised that he had no intention of leaving people out to die or state that "only by fighting or landing in prison would it justify their purpose". But he recalled that some legislators had not "did their best" during their term, "even the pro-Beijing camp has better attendance, more speeches, and more votes." He agreed with Wu Chi-wai, chairman of the Democratic Party's opinion that having the opposition in the parliament could delay new "evil laws", but continued to emphasise the importance of proving their decisions with action, saying that, "If you're sitting there only to give speeches and vote "objection" or "abstain", I don't believe that supporters would accept this."
Addressing the fear of losing the right to speak once legislators leave the Legislative Council, Chan stated that it depends on the people for the resistance to survive, that people could have very high recognition despite not being in the Legislative Council, such as some YouTubers or key opinion leaders. He continued that no matter when people suggest a mass resignation would there be opinions against the decision, believing that staying in the Legislative Council has its advantages.
Chan also called for pro-democracy camp members who lean towards staying to listen to public opinion before making their decision or risk a more intense emotional backlash, stating that, "People would respect you or feel disappointed if you leave when they have voted for you to stay; but if you stubbornly refuse to leave when the people called for it, you attract hatred."
Source: Stand News #Aug18
#EddieChu #RayChan
Read the 3-part Series on Democracy Front's Debates on Whether Incumbent Pro-dem Lawmakers shall Serve in Extended Term Under Beijing's LegCo Arrangement:
Part 1:
https://t.me/guardiansofhongkong/24384
Part 2:
https://t.me/guardiansofhongkong/24385
Part 3:
https://t.me/guardiansofhongkong/24386
Pro-democracy Lawmakers Eddie Chu and Raymond Chan Lean on Leaving LegCo to Denounce Beijing's Political Arrangement
Part 3/3
Wishing Legislators Would Prove Their Decisions With Action, Raymond Chan: "Hadn't Done Their Best Last Year."
Pro-democracy lawmaker Raymond Chan, of People Power, agreed that the pro-democracy camp should decide with a referendum or a poll, stating that legislators should not stay without public authorisation.
"Although a lack of elections means a lack of public authorisation, they should only be allowed to stay if the public supports their decision." He continued that although he and
Pro-democracy lawmaker
Eddie Chu had suggested random polls around Hong Kong, not many people within the pro-democracy camp found interest with the suggestion.
When confronted with the dilemma of whether those who choose to stay could use to "Provisional Legislative Council"s power well", Chan expressed his concern, as he "[doesn't] know whether they are up to the task". He stated that he did not believe in denigrations from some members of the public, such as accusations that claimed "greediness" as the reason behind their stay. But he stated that those who lean towards staying should prove their decisions with actions, not repeating mantras such as "fight 'til the end".
Chan emphasised that he had no intention of leaving people out to die or state that "only by fighting or landing in prison would it justify their purpose". But he recalled that some legislators had not "did their best" during their term, "even the pro-Beijing camp has better attendance, more speeches, and more votes." He agreed with Wu Chi-wai, chairman of the Democratic Party's opinion that having the opposition in the parliament could delay new "evil laws", but continued to emphasise the importance of proving their decisions with action, saying that, "If you're sitting there only to give speeches and vote "objection" or "abstain", I don't believe that supporters would accept this."
Addressing the fear of losing the right to speak once legislators leave the Legislative Council, Chan stated that it depends on the people for the resistance to survive, that people could have very high recognition despite not being in the Legislative Council, such as some YouTubers or key opinion leaders. He continued that no matter when people suggest a mass resignation would there be opinions against the decision, believing that staying in the Legislative Council has its advantages.
Chan also called for pro-democracy camp members who lean towards staying to listen to public opinion before making their decision or risk a more intense emotional backlash, stating that, "People would respect you or feel disappointed if you leave when they have voted for you to stay; but if you stubbornly refuse to leave when the people called for it, you attract hatred."
Source: Stand News #Aug18
#EddieChu #RayChan
Read the 3-part Series on Democracy Front's Debates on Whether Incumbent Pro-dem Lawmakers shall Serve in Extended Term Under Beijing's LegCo Arrangement:
Part 1:
https://t.me/guardiansofhongkong/24384
Part 2:
https://t.me/guardiansofhongkong/24385
Part 3:
https://t.me/guardiansofhongkong/24386