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Who died?

In late season 7, when the small band of men go north of the wall to try to capture one of the dead to bring back to Westeros to show Cersei, several men were killed by the hoard of the dead after the men were marooned on the rocks surrounded by ice. The ones I could identify were Jon, The Hound, Jorah, Gendry, Tormund, Beric, and Thoros. I thought all of them made it out.

After the ice melted and before Dani arrived on her dragon, 1-3 of the men were killed by the dead. Were they random nobodies, or had they been introduced in previous seasons? Maybe one was Thoros. I rewound it several times and can’t make them out. It’s been bothering me, so I’d appreciate it if someone could enlighten me.

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Casual here, can anyone explain detaily why the final is so bad?

I finished the show a bit ago, I went completely blind and I LOVED it. I didn't enjoy last 2 seasons as much as other ones but I didn't hate them. I had some problems with it but they were not that big.

Before I start watching, I was excited to see season 8. Only and only to see how bad it was. I heard of how bad the GoT final is a million times from internet, friends, family and all that. My expectations were so low that I thought maybe all of the show was just Bran's nightmare.

But when I watched the final, tbh I wasn't that mad. Yes, everything was rushed and there were many logical mistakes. But if it's just those , I don't think it deserves that much hate. I googled what's wrong with the final but everyone was saying a few same stuff, so I decided to come to the final destination, Reddit.

Like I said, I'm a casual. I don't understand much about TV shows or movies. I'm really curious so can someone explain me details about the stuff and scenes that were sh*t?

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Brandon Stark/Three Eyed Raven evolution

Why do you think beginning in Season 7 of the series that Brandon Stark became an emotionless bore?

I don’t know if it’s bad acting (doubtful) or what or why this is, Having not read the books is this melancholy disposition present within the books as well?

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Cersei as Regent

My understanding of the title of Regent is a temporary position in usually 2 circumstances
A: there is no leader of a nation so one is appointed till an official one is selected
Or in how it is with Joffery,The next in line is to young and they rule in thier stead
But....Cersei does none of that

Joffery Cleary has all the power and final say,Cersei just ....is there
So when they constantly mention how Cersei is to be listened and respected as Queen Regent I'm confused as she litterly doesn't do any of what that role is

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My version of the ending

So I know if I thought of it, a lot of you probably have as well. However I just really want to share how i would’ve ended season 8 and was wondering if you agree or how yall wouldve ended it.

- First thing, The battle of the against the Night King. Changes i would make include: Jon and the night king have a final battle, Jon ultimately loses and Bran uses his warg powers to control the dragon and defeat the night king. This would make the two characters involved with the night king the most actually be the ones to defeat him, and actually give Bran something to do. I think everything else was fine, hiding in the crypt was kinda ridiculous but it wasn’t to bad, that’s my biggest change about that.

-Jaime: Either he dies in the battle against the night king army, or I always liked the idea of Arya actually continuing her assasin plot, and her killing jaime during this battle. somehow word gets to cersei and she’s led into depression, making her want to jump the same way tommen did, not wanting to live without jaime, and arya stops her and kills her, or she has now idea and arya comes in wearing jaime’s face and kills her. i think the second option or a slight mix of the two would be awesome.

Dany: After Cersei surrenders (either from depression from jaime or arya killing her) Dany does start to go crazy from the madness and wants to burn kings landing, a reborn from the ashes thing, but instead Jon stops her, convinces her that this isn’t the way. Dany is convinced by Jon. Dany goes on to take her rule at kings landing, and im stuck between either them getting married and Dany keeps the throne, and happily ever after. What are y’all thoughts?

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For all the hate Season 7 now gets, the shows own fans collectively have it as the 2nd highest rated season.

I've mentioned this before but pretty much every time I see any Game of Thrones content on social media, it's always flooded with comments about how the last two seasons sucked. I understand the final season (Although I personally don't think it's as bad as people say but I do hate how it ended) but I can't understand why so many people say that about season 7 because while there were some issues with it at the time, I don't recall that being the prevailing sentiment back when it aired.


Here is how each seasons is rated on IMDB:

Season 1: 8.97 (465k votes)

Season 2: 8.81 (389k votes)

Season 3: 8.93 (462k votes)

Season 4: 9.24 (505k votes)

Season 5: 8.69 (464k votes)

Season 6: 8.98 (804k votes)

Season 7: 9.02 (460k votes)

Season 8: 6.4 (1.17m votes)

So from best to worst: S4, S7, S6, S1, S3, S2, S5, S8.


S7's worst rated episode is the opener "Dragon stone" which is 8.5 but every season has at least one episode with that rating or lower with the exception of Season 4 (Which is my favorite season and IMO arguably one of the best seasons of television ever made) and it also has a top 5 rated episode in "Spoils of War" (9.7).

I really enjoyed it. I get it was a bit rushed and the travel speeds were goody but it had a ton of moments that had me glued to my screen:

- Arya as Walder Frey poisoning his men.

- Bran making it to The Night's Watch

- Dany finally reaching Westeros

- Dany with Varys and Melisandre and then Olenna

- Sam meeting Jorah and healing him

- Greyworm + Missandei

- Arya seeing Hot Pie and Nymeria again

- Euron attacking Theon (I'm Theon's biggest hater)

- Jon seeing Tyrion again and meeting Dany

- The Sands getting killed

- Unsullied attacking Casterly Rock

- Jamie and Olenna

- Every second of Spoils of War

- Dany and Jorah reunited

- Tyrion and Jamie reunited

- Davos finding Gendry + him meeting Jon

I know a lot of people call a bunch of this "fan service" but I found the majority of it really entertaining and I really don't believe people if they say they didn't. Even when they all linked up to go beyond the wall and when everyone collided in King's Landing.

As I've said before, I'm convinced the average fan of the show has had their memory jaded by the final season because how so many fans can say a season that the shows own fans have over a 9.0 sucks is puzzling 👍



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Brann's dilemma

Just watched a reel and Brann says to Sansa, "I can never be Lord of Winterfell, I'm the three eye Raven"

He then accepts King of the 6 kingdoms with his infamous, "why do you think I came all this way?" Drivel.

Make it make it sense because it seems like BS to me!

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Game of Thrones Ending Idea

I'm watching GoT again after a long time in the background and finally getting into the horrendous final season. What really bothered me is how quickly/early they got rid of the Night King. If I were to make this show again I would have changed up so the series would have a final grand battle.

To me the whole point of the GoT was meaningless as the army of the dead would have taken them all out. I would have preferred had they got ready for the final battle and lined up at Winterfell nobody would have showed up. They would have been standing all night and no white walkers. They find out later that they went around them south to kings landing area etc since they were NOT prepared for them down there.

It just feels like the long night was only a threat to the North and not all of Westeros or even Essos. Why would anyone else in this fantasy world really care if it won't even reach them. It should be an epic threat which brought blizzard wherever it goes.

Upon hearing this the whole Winterfell team is racing down there to stop the night army. The last 3 episodes could have been epic battles with John Snow taking out the night king. Dany could have died saving John. John could have become the reluctant King as everyone else was taken out.

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