Last 200 years of US immigration

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Vitalik dumping memes, like always

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Annoyingly-long Vivek post that’s getting him torn to shreds

Have put off even responding to it at all, because it’s so full of nonsense

Alright here we go

(1) “Our American culture has venerated mediocrity over excellence for way too long (at least since the 90s and likely longer). A culture that celebrates the prom queen over the math olympiad champ, or the jock over the valedictorian, will not produce the best engineers.”

= The hoes aren’t throwing themselves at the engineers

Bro. No country has its hoes throwing themselves at the engineers for engineering sake

Maybe if you had been born in India, instead of Ohio, you’d realize this

Now if you’re talking about what bros prize in other bros… it’s simply not true

Must be talking about the hoes not bros

(2) “A culture that venerates Cory from “Boy Meets World,” or Zach & Slater over Screech in “Saved by the Bell,” or ‘Stefan’ over Steve Urkel in “Family Matters,” will not produce the best engineers.”

= I believe American TV is a documentary on American reality

Most retarded error in the book

Usually only foreigners with no IRL non-tourist experience in US thinking the TV is the reality

…But you were born in Ohio

Bro have you seen Bollywood?

Is anyone dumb enough to believe that Bollywood is a documentary of Indian reality?

(3) “I know *multiple* sets of immigrant parents in the 90s who actively limited how much their kids could watch those TV shows precisely because they promoted mediocrity”

= Only immigrant families restrict their children’s TV watching

Bro, you really think that’s immigrant-specific?

(5) “Most normal American parents look skeptically at “those kinds of parents.” More normal American kids view such “those kinds of kids” with scorn.”

= ???

Bro, tf you talking about?

(6) “This can be our Sputnik moment. We’ve awaken from slumber before & we can do it again.”

= …You mean ensuring that those employed employed in the next space race are ~100% “white” people?

Vivek, bro, your whole role was to be the “smart” dude

None of these arguments are even smart, at all, let alone any good

So much more wrong with this

Bro what were you thinking

Will point out though — The percentage of people genetically predisposed to becoming any type of serious engineer is something like 1-in-2000

IN NO NATURAL POPULATION IN THE WORLD is being an engineer 1-in-2 “normal”

Not in the US, not in India, not in Israel

NO WHERE

Being engineering-capable is far more naturally rare than those who surround themselves with a high engineers each day realize.

1-in-2000, not 1-in-2, or even 1-in-10

Maybe a small fraction of a percent, at most, if you really stretch the definition of engineer

Nothing “normal” about being a serious engineer at all. It’s extremely abnormal at the natural population level.

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American engineers leaving the tech entirely because it’s wildly underpaid versus far easier, far less painful work

— And this is despite that tech turned into a trillion dollar industry

Why is it so wildly underpaid?

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Not even actually true that US students are falling behind in STEM

Even more surprisingly, not even true that international students are the cause of US students being ahead in STEM

It’s in the genes and always has been

…unless the genes get drastically changed

Demographics is destiny

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Vivek really did not think out his argument

Vivek, bro, your role was to be the smart guy

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So his arguments weren’t smart

Let’s see if they at least had some kind of emotional appeal?

Oh

No, no they did not

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Asian, Indian tech culture always been about zero-sum memorization of already solved problems,

Extreme obedience to school authorities

Extremely high grades

US tech culture always been about dropping out of school,

Defying authorities and classic credentials,

Creating new things long before any school could have a chance to teach them, because you’re literally inventing whole new fields

Radically different, in the most fundamental ways

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