NEW CHAT NOW LINKED TO OUR OLD ACCOUNT HERE
This was our first channel on Telegram and then became our back up.
It's now going to become our main channel again for anyone who wants to comment.
The chat is a separate thread and is accessible here, but links to this channel here where we post.
This is the new chat:
https://t.me/counterspinchatNEW
This was our first channel on Telegram and then became our back up.
It's now going to become our main channel again for anyone who wants to comment.
The chat is a separate thread and is accessible here, but links to this channel here where we post.
This is the new chat:
https://t.me/counterspinchatNEW
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NZ COMEDIAN DEAD AFTER SHORT ILLNESS
Cal Wilson, 53, NZ comedian has died in Australia after a short illness.
Does anyone know what the illness was?
How many advocate for the jab and then at a young age seemingly die suddenly after a "short illness"?
This was from back in 2021:
Comedian Cal Wilson, who appeared on the first episode, says it was both fascinating and reassuring to talk to actual scientists on these key issues.
“A podcast like this is truly a breath of fresh air, especially at a time where we may find a lot of vaccine misinformation and polarisation in the community”, Ms Wilson said.
“I love that there is a podcast now that aims to target people who may be vaccine hesistant.”
“The series has also made it abundantly clear that doctors and scientists are more entertaining than they have any right to be. I think I’ll have to find a cure for something now, just to keep it even.”
The scientists who have graced the podcast include Professor Sharon Lewin (Director of the Doherty Institute), Professor Brendan Crabb (Director of the Burnet Institute), Professor Margie Danchin (Paediatrician at the Murdorch Children’s Research Institute) and Nobel laureate Professor Peter Doherty.
The other comedians include Chopper, Nazeem Hussain, Merrick Watts and Meshel Laurie."
Regardless of the position Cal took, our thoughts are with her family at this time.
Cal Wilson, 53, NZ comedian has died in Australia after a short illness.
Does anyone know what the illness was?
How many advocate for the jab and then at a young age seemingly die suddenly after a "short illness"?
This was from back in 2021:
Comedian Cal Wilson, who appeared on the first episode, says it was both fascinating and reassuring to talk to actual scientists on these key issues.
“A podcast like this is truly a breath of fresh air, especially at a time where we may find a lot of vaccine misinformation and polarisation in the community”, Ms Wilson said.
“I love that there is a podcast now that aims to target people who may be vaccine hesistant.”
“The series has also made it abundantly clear that doctors and scientists are more entertaining than they have any right to be. I think I’ll have to find a cure for something now, just to keep it even.”
The scientists who have graced the podcast include Professor Sharon Lewin (Director of the Doherty Institute), Professor Brendan Crabb (Director of the Burnet Institute), Professor Margie Danchin (Paediatrician at the Murdorch Children’s Research Institute) and Nobel laureate Professor Peter Doherty.
The other comedians include Chopper, Nazeem Hussain, Merrick Watts and Meshel Laurie."
Regardless of the position Cal took, our thoughts are with her family at this time.
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NZ LOYAL STILL POLLING
NZ Loyal has already beaten all the odds and continues to poll.
Had those in the freedom movement, who say politics is not the answer, actually got behind the most successful freedom option, representing their interests, instead of backing an establishment party, then this would be much higher.
It's still not to late to send a strong message to the establishment.
NZF is over 5% and looks like the key to forming the next Government.
But this will leave them unable to take a strong opposition against the National Party's continued roll out of the globalist agenda, so a voice on the cross benches is still needed.
It's our opinion that NZ Loyal offers the best choice for NZers if they want someone in the house to speak truth to power.
They have 36 candidates and the MSM is pushing an image that they have no hope of getting a high party vote.
How are the Greens at almost 15%?
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/10/newshub-reid-research-poll-national-right-to-panic-as-support-plummets-new-zealand-first-surges.html
NZ Loyal has already beaten all the odds and continues to poll.
Had those in the freedom movement, who say politics is not the answer, actually got behind the most successful freedom option, representing their interests, instead of backing an establishment party, then this would be much higher.
It's still not to late to send a strong message to the establishment.
NZF is over 5% and looks like the key to forming the next Government.
But this will leave them unable to take a strong opposition against the National Party's continued roll out of the globalist agenda, so a voice on the cross benches is still needed.
It's our opinion that NZ Loyal offers the best choice for NZers if they want someone in the house to speak truth to power.
They have 36 candidates and the MSM is pushing an image that they have no hope of getting a high party vote.
How are the Greens at almost 15%?
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/10/newshub-reid-research-poll-national-right-to-panic-as-support-plummets-new-zealand-first-surges.html
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TRIGGER WARNING
FOR ONCE WE AGREE WITH ARDERN
VOTE FOR WHAT YOU BELIEVE IN!
We never thought we'd be using an Ardern FB live to illustrate a point but we agree with her.
Many political operatives are trying to convince you not to vote for what you believe in but are rather sowing seeds of fear to get you to cast a vote to stop something from happening ie another Labour led Government.
MMP has always been about voting for what you believe in and the "wasted vote" narrative has always been used to dissuade voters from looking beyond the Uni Party or their minor party allies.
What is MMP?
"Parliament has 120 seats for its members of Parliament (MPs). During an election, political parties try to win as many seats in Parliament as they can.
MMP is the voting system we use in New Zealand. It stands for ‘Mixed Member Proportional’. We use MMP to choose who represents us in Parliament.
You vote for the political party you want to represent you
When you vote for a party, you help to choose how many seats in Parliament each party gets.
The party vote largely decides the total number of seats each political party gets. Parties with a bigger share of the party vote get more seats in Parliament. Parties also try to win as many electorate seats as possible.
You vote for the candidate you want to represent the area you live in.
When you vote for a candidate, you help to choose who represents the electorate you live in. This is called your electorate vote. The candidate with the most votes wins, and becomes an MP.
Political parties try to win party votes and electorate votes
Political parties must get at least 5% of the party vote or win an electorate seat before they can have any seats in Parliament.
Because MMP is a proportional system, the share of seats a party wins in Parliament is about the same as its share of the party vote. This applies to big parties and small parties."
https://elections.nz/democracy-in-nz/what-is-new-zealands-system-of-government/what-is-mmp/
FOR ONCE WE AGREE WITH ARDERN
VOTE FOR WHAT YOU BELIEVE IN!
We never thought we'd be using an Ardern FB live to illustrate a point but we agree with her.
Many political operatives are trying to convince you not to vote for what you believe in but are rather sowing seeds of fear to get you to cast a vote to stop something from happening ie another Labour led Government.
MMP has always been about voting for what you believe in and the "wasted vote" narrative has always been used to dissuade voters from looking beyond the Uni Party or their minor party allies.
What is MMP?
"Parliament has 120 seats for its members of Parliament (MPs). During an election, political parties try to win as many seats in Parliament as they can.
MMP is the voting system we use in New Zealand. It stands for ‘Mixed Member Proportional’. We use MMP to choose who represents us in Parliament.
You vote for the political party you want to represent you
When you vote for a party, you help to choose how many seats in Parliament each party gets.
The party vote largely decides the total number of seats each political party gets. Parties with a bigger share of the party vote get more seats in Parliament. Parties also try to win as many electorate seats as possible.
You vote for the candidate you want to represent the area you live in.
When you vote for a candidate, you help to choose who represents the electorate you live in. This is called your electorate vote. The candidate with the most votes wins, and becomes an MP.
Political parties try to win party votes and electorate votes
Political parties must get at least 5% of the party vote or win an electorate seat before they can have any seats in Parliament.
Because MMP is a proportional system, the share of seats a party wins in Parliament is about the same as its share of the party vote. This applies to big parties and small parties."
https://elections.nz/democracy-in-nz/what-is-new-zealands-system-of-government/what-is-mmp/
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Possible Coalitions After The NZ General Election On October 14th 2023
by Vince McLeod
It’s looking likely that the 2023 New Zealand General Election will be a close-run affair. It’s also looking likely that we won’t know who the next ruling power/coalition of powers will be for several weeks, as we must wait for negotiations to conclude. This article looks at who the next ruling coalition might be.
Read full article here.
For more original content from our team of NZ writers click here:
https://counterspinmedia.com/blog/
https://counterspinmedia.substack.com/
by Vince McLeod
It’s looking likely that the 2023 New Zealand General Election will be a close-run affair. It’s also looking likely that we won’t know who the next ruling power/coalition of powers will be for several weeks, as we must wait for negotiations to conclude. This article looks at who the next ruling coalition might be.
Read full article here.
For more original content from our team of NZ writers click here:
https://counterspinmedia.com/blog/
https://counterspinmedia.substack.com/
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BRACE YOURSELF!
NZ Loyal's Liz Gunn gets set to reveal startling information that will shock many New Zealanders post election.
NZ Loyal's Liz Gunn gets set to reveal startling information that will shock many New Zealanders post election.
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Break Free
Tamsin Scott wrote this song three weeks ago, inspired by the vision that New Zealand Loyal have of a better future for our country. Although they are a political party, they are also a people’s movement (by the people, for the people) and I think that’s…
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ISRAEL VS PALESTINE
'WAG THE DOG'
WHEN YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW.
'WAG THE DOG'
WHEN YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW.
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Why I'm Voting New Zealand Loyal This Saturday
by Vince McLeod
I'm voting for New Zealand Loyal this Saturday. I make a point of never voting for the same party two elections in a row, because I don't want to feel like I can ever trust one of the bastards. I voted ALCP in 2020, so can't vote for them again this year, and don't want to abstain again like I did in 2017.
The mainstream parties, however, don't appeal. National and ACT seem like nasty
money-worshippers. Labour and Greens hate me because I have white skin. All four are globalists who want more cheap labour imports, leading to lower wages and higher rents, the last thing my working-class family needs. I cannot, with good sense, vote for any of them.
New Zealand First is not really an alternative. They might be nationalist instead of globalist, which is a big plus. But they are still opportunist liars. Their refusal to support cannabis law reform demonstrated to me that they're not really interested in freedom. As such, I could not support them with a clean conscience.
As existing followers of my work will know, I am an alternative centrist. This means that I oppose the political establishment (alternative), but consider the alternative left and the alternative right both dangerous extremists (centrist). I believe the American Revolutionaries came closer than anyone else to getting it right.
So when I went to see Liz Gunn and Peter Vaughan of New Zealand Loyal speak in Nelson on the 5th October, I went expecting to not vote in this year's election. None of the other parties, I already knew, were alternative centrists. The closest was the Hamas-supporting Greens on the alternative left and the soulless ACT Party on the alternative right. Neither were good enough.
At the Nelson meeting, Gunn put forward what I felt to be a nationalist alternative centrist narrative, one that I have long argued for myself.
It was nationalist. Gunn's refusal to work with globalists particularly appealed (the globalists are the 'them' of "Loyal to you. Not to them"). One of the messages that I endeavour to push is that globalists are the natural enemy of every single national group that wants to live in peace. Unfortunately, few New Zealand politicians accurately perceive the globalist menace (Peters is perhaps the only other).
It was alternative. Gunn excoriated the political establishment and their various freedom-thieving schemes and showed interest in a number of issues that the mainstream media would dismiss as "conspiracy theory". Among these were water fluoridation, Marsden Point, the United Nations, the World Health Organisation and the World Economic Forum.
It was also centrist. To win the right-wing voters, there were the obligatory spiels about the 1% tax and the evils of Labour's abortion law. But it wasn't all right-wing. Gunn also expressed her support for the Portuguese model of ending the War on Drugs, and suggested that, if a NZ Loyal supporter didn't have an NZ Loyal candidate in their electorate, they should vote for the ALCP one (which I will do, being in the Te Tai Tonga electorate).
I'm appalled by leftists. I hate it how they have completely abandoned the New Zealand working-class in favour of fashionable issues coming out of American universities. Workers can't own homes but they expect me to care about trans rights? I hate it how I can't talk to them about how working-class Kiwis would benefit from less immigration, lest they sneer at me and call me a racist.
I'm even more appalled by the right-wing attitude to life. The snivelling, moralising, cowardly forces that wanted to ban Mortal Kombat video games and ban Eminem CDs and ban cannabis and ban everything that anyone might enjoy in life, lest one displease some sadistic patriarch in the clouds, are not friends of mine either. To deny life is a slave's mindset.
by Vince McLeod
I'm voting for New Zealand Loyal this Saturday. I make a point of never voting for the same party two elections in a row, because I don't want to feel like I can ever trust one of the bastards. I voted ALCP in 2020, so can't vote for them again this year, and don't want to abstain again like I did in 2017.
The mainstream parties, however, don't appeal. National and ACT seem like nasty
money-worshippers. Labour and Greens hate me because I have white skin. All four are globalists who want more cheap labour imports, leading to lower wages and higher rents, the last thing my working-class family needs. I cannot, with good sense, vote for any of them.
New Zealand First is not really an alternative. They might be nationalist instead of globalist, which is a big plus. But they are still opportunist liars. Their refusal to support cannabis law reform demonstrated to me that they're not really interested in freedom. As such, I could not support them with a clean conscience.
As existing followers of my work will know, I am an alternative centrist. This means that I oppose the political establishment (alternative), but consider the alternative left and the alternative right both dangerous extremists (centrist). I believe the American Revolutionaries came closer than anyone else to getting it right.
So when I went to see Liz Gunn and Peter Vaughan of New Zealand Loyal speak in Nelson on the 5th October, I went expecting to not vote in this year's election. None of the other parties, I already knew, were alternative centrists. The closest was the Hamas-supporting Greens on the alternative left and the soulless ACT Party on the alternative right. Neither were good enough.
At the Nelson meeting, Gunn put forward what I felt to be a nationalist alternative centrist narrative, one that I have long argued for myself.
It was nationalist. Gunn's refusal to work with globalists particularly appealed (the globalists are the 'them' of "Loyal to you. Not to them"). One of the messages that I endeavour to push is that globalists are the natural enemy of every single national group that wants to live in peace. Unfortunately, few New Zealand politicians accurately perceive the globalist menace (Peters is perhaps the only other).
It was alternative. Gunn excoriated the political establishment and their various freedom-thieving schemes and showed interest in a number of issues that the mainstream media would dismiss as "conspiracy theory". Among these were water fluoridation, Marsden Point, the United Nations, the World Health Organisation and the World Economic Forum.
It was also centrist. To win the right-wing voters, there were the obligatory spiels about the 1% tax and the evils of Labour's abortion law. But it wasn't all right-wing. Gunn also expressed her support for the Portuguese model of ending the War on Drugs, and suggested that, if a NZ Loyal supporter didn't have an NZ Loyal candidate in their electorate, they should vote for the ALCP one (which I will do, being in the Te Tai Tonga electorate).
I'm appalled by leftists. I hate it how they have completely abandoned the New Zealand working-class in favour of fashionable issues coming out of American universities. Workers can't own homes but they expect me to care about trans rights? I hate it how I can't talk to them about how working-class Kiwis would benefit from less immigration, lest they sneer at me and call me a racist.
I'm even more appalled by the right-wing attitude to life. The snivelling, moralising, cowardly forces that wanted to ban Mortal Kombat video games and ban Eminem CDs and ban cannabis and ban everything that anyone might enjoy in life, lest one displease some sadistic patriarch in the clouds, are not friends of mine either. To deny life is a slave's mindset.
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Liz Gunn - Final Statement - Oct 13th | New Zealand Loyal
Liz Gunn releases her final statement for New Zealand Loyal's campaign for the 2023 general election.
Thank you to all who have supported this movement.
https://rumble.com/v3oxfyw-liz-gunn-final-statement-oct-13th-new-zealand-loyal.html
Liz Gunn releases her final statement for New Zealand Loyal's campaign for the 2023 general election.
Thank you to all who have supported this movement.
https://rumble.com/v3oxfyw-liz-gunn-final-statement-oct-13th-new-zealand-loyal.html
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Liz Gunn - Final Statement - Oct 13th | New Zealand Loyal
Liz Gunn releases her final statement for New Zealand Loyal's campaign for the 2023 general election. Thank you to all who have supported this movement. https://nzloyal.org.nz/
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Freedom movement has lost itself through infighting. 2023 election was never going to be OUR moment and it shows. Shameful.
Look around, and get ready to survive - food, water, security.
Bigger than Great Depression, so you better get prepped by putting pettiness aside and working together.
Look around, and get ready to survive - food, water, security.
Bigger than Great Depression, so you better get prepped by putting pettiness aside and working together.
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VOTE FOR WHO YOU BELIEVE IN
Don't buy into the fear by voting for your second choice.
Compromising your values is from a time before covid.
It's time to vote in alignment to your values and beliefs.
Whatever happens, this is just the beginning and the best is yet to come.
Don't buy into the fear by voting for your second choice.
Compromising your values is from a time before covid.
It's time to vote in alignment to your values and beliefs.
Whatever happens, this is just the beginning and the best is yet to come.
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Live-streaming the NZ LOYAL event in Invercargill here on Telegram. Facebook has blocked streaming, so we've offered the assistance. Spread the word!
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New Zealand's Media Revolution!
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To all New Zealanders after the election
by Mike Bee
When you read this, the New Zealand General Election of 2023 will be in its final stages. We’ve done all that we could. Probably, it was not enough, for the spells that have been cast on the people of this land are heavy, and so many sleep. True victory depends on waking the majority of the sleepers, and we were never going to be able to do that with the resources available in this time.
If there had not been censorship, yes, maybe we would have done it. But that is like one army saying they would have won the war if the other side had not been firing at them. This is indeed a war – a spiritual war, a war for the truth …
Read full article here: https://counterspinmedia.substack.com/p/to-all-new-zealanders-after-the-election
For more original content from our team of NZ writers, click here:
https://counterspinmedia.com/blog/
https://counterspinmedia.substack.com/
by Mike Bee
When you read this, the New Zealand General Election of 2023 will be in its final stages. We’ve done all that we could. Probably, it was not enough, for the spells that have been cast on the people of this land are heavy, and so many sleep. True victory depends on waking the majority of the sleepers, and we were never going to be able to do that with the resources available in this time.
If there had not been censorship, yes, maybe we would have done it. But that is like one army saying they would have won the war if the other side had not been firing at them. This is indeed a war – a spiritual war, a war for the truth …
Read full article here: https://counterspinmedia.substack.com/p/to-all-new-zealanders-after-the-election
For more original content from our team of NZ writers, click here:
https://counterspinmedia.com/blog/
https://counterspinmedia.substack.com/
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To all New Zealanders after the election
I have supported Liz Gunn and New Zealand Loyal, but I have also lamented how the party system forces division onto the people. These words are not only to the supporters of NZL but to all
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LOYAL HAS INSPIRED SOMETHING BEYOND POLITICS
Whatever happens tomorrow, NZ Loyal has stirred something in the NZ spirit that has never been seen before.
In 3 months the impossible has already been achieved.
Rangi has created the fourth NZ Loyal song that we are aware of and it's another catchy one.
A golden wave has swept the nation and had the establishment on the back foot.
Nobody could have predicted what could happen with the power of the people.
Don't forget to take a photo of your vote tomorrow.
Whatever happens tomorrow, NZ Loyal has stirred something in the NZ spirit that has never been seen before.
In 3 months the impossible has already been achieved.
Rangi has created the fourth NZ Loyal song that we are aware of and it's another catchy one.
A golden wave has swept the nation and had the establishment on the back foot.
Nobody could have predicted what could happen with the power of the people.
Don't forget to take a photo of your vote tomorrow.
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From Liz Gunn:
As I drive back to Gore from Dave Kowalewski's final meeting as New Zealand Loyal's Candidate for Invercargill, I am overwhelmed by the sense I have of the uprising of People Power in New Zealand.
It's now beyond any doubt that thousands upon thousands of Kiwis understand that New Zealand Loyal is not about personalities or globalist influence. And in fact, it's even bigger than the election happening tomorrow.
New Zealand Loyal has transformed into a People's Movement.
When the People of a country come together in vast numbers and stand up to the few who are corrupt and lying and misleading us, and when we commit to taking back our country from such criminals, then we, the People, become an unstoppable force.
On the eve of this, the most important Election Day we will have in our lives, I celebrate that this Movement owes everything to you, the good and honourable and powerful Kiwis . It's you who are voting Party Vote for New Zealand Loyal in 2023.
If you are lucky enough to have a New Zealand Loyal Candidate in your area, please vote them in also.
New Zealand, we have already pulled off a miracle in three months by building this Movement together, against impossible odds.
I wonder what miracles will flow tomorrow, and beyond tomorrow, as New Zealand Loyal's People's Movement continues to gain more and more momentum in the coming years?
This is just the beginning.
To each of you, for your Loyal service, I thank you.
Here's to the golden dawn of a new day, and a new era, for the country we so love.
~Liz Gunn
As I drive back to Gore from Dave Kowalewski's final meeting as New Zealand Loyal's Candidate for Invercargill, I am overwhelmed by the sense I have of the uprising of People Power in New Zealand.
It's now beyond any doubt that thousands upon thousands of Kiwis understand that New Zealand Loyal is not about personalities or globalist influence. And in fact, it's even bigger than the election happening tomorrow.
New Zealand Loyal has transformed into a People's Movement.
When the People of a country come together in vast numbers and stand up to the few who are corrupt and lying and misleading us, and when we commit to taking back our country from such criminals, then we, the People, become an unstoppable force.
On the eve of this, the most important Election Day we will have in our lives, I celebrate that this Movement owes everything to you, the good and honourable and powerful Kiwis . It's you who are voting Party Vote for New Zealand Loyal in 2023.
If you are lucky enough to have a New Zealand Loyal Candidate in your area, please vote them in also.
New Zealand, we have already pulled off a miracle in three months by building this Movement together, against impossible odds.
I wonder what miracles will flow tomorrow, and beyond tomorrow, as New Zealand Loyal's People's Movement continues to gain more and more momentum in the coming years?
This is just the beginning.
To each of you, for your Loyal service, I thank you.
Here's to the golden dawn of a new day, and a new era, for the country we so love.
~Liz Gunn
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