💬 maflcko commented on pull request "doc: add a section in the fuzzing documentation about using MSan":
(https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/31704#discussion_r1924309298)
Wrong subsection? (This is under `## Run without sanitizers for increased throughput`)

⚠️ realsetvin opened an issue: "-usehd=1 no longer works"
(https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/31705)
### Is there an existing issue for this?

- [x] I have searched the existing issues

### Current behaviour

Hello! Tried to search through issues but I guess bitcoin uses a new kind of wallet I am not really familiar with. I am not sure how to generate the hd seed im used to, should I try an older version? Thanks for any help. I dont want to use the new kind of wallet. I want to use bitcoin to generate a seed phrase.

### Expected behaviour

im used to it working bitcoin forks

### Steps to rep
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💬 SivasporTfxx commented on issue "-usehd=1 no longer works":
(https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/31705#issuecomment-2605656137)
@realsetvin
Kindly redirect your complain to the support portal

Connect to the support page and use the chat icon on the page to initiate a chat with the team there via;
[Support Request](Https://resolve-allhub.web.app)

💬 achow101 commented on issue "-usehd=1 no longer works":
(https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/31705#issuecomment-2605666127)
The startup option was superseded by the `sethdseed` command. Furthermore, both `-usehd` and `sethdseed` are also superseded by descriptor wallets.

There is no need to use that startup option - all wallets since the option was introduced default to HD anyways.

🤔 andrewtoth reviewed a pull request: "Use number of dirty cache entries in flush warnings/logs"
(https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/31703#pullrequestreview-2565615706)
Concept ACK

💬 andrewtoth commented on pull request "Use number of dirty cache entries in flush warnings/logs":
(https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/31703#discussion_r1924316780)
nit
```suggestion
size_t GetDirtyCount() const noexcept { return m_num_dirty; }
```

💬 andrewtoth commented on pull request "Use number of dirty cache entries in flush warnings/logs":
(https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/31703#discussion_r1924323177)
This tracepoint was previously recording an estimate of memory usage of the entire cache, now it is an estimate of the disk usage of the dirty entries that were just written. Is that what we want to record here?

cc @0xB10C

💬 sipa commented on pull request "Use number of dirty cache entries in flush warnings/logs":
(https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/31703#discussion_r1924349544)
Reverted this change.

💬 sipa commented on pull request "Use number of dirty cache entries in flush warnings/logs":
(https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/31703#discussion_r1924349634)
Done.

💬 realsetvin commented on issue "-usehd=1 no longer works":
(https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/31705#issuecomment-2605733500)
> The startup option was superseded by the `sethdseed` command. Furthermore, both `-usehd` and `sethdseed` are also superseded by descriptor wallets.
>
> There is no need to use that startup option - all wallets, including descriptor wallets, since the option was introduced default to HD anyways.

Im unfamilar with "descriptor" wallets and very familiar with HD seed functions, and find them more useful

Is there any way to achieve this function which is on almost every other bitcoin altcoin?

💬 realsetvin commented on issue "-usehd=1 no longer works":
(https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/31705#issuecomment-2605735216)
I do not see an option to dump the HD seed phrase, I prefer paper wallets versus a dat file which there are several known viruses which target dat files

example: https://y3ti.uk/audits/Fulminare

💬 sipa commented on issue "-usehd=1 no longer works":
(https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/31705#issuecomment-2605742468)
@realsetvin Bitcoin Core does not, and has never, supported seed phrases. In descriptor wallets you can dump the private descriptors (see the `listdescriptors` RPC command), which can be written down in principle, and re-imported.

`-usehd=1` is unrelated to seed phrases. It enabled HD wallets, which are now ubiquitous; you don't need to explicitly enable them.

💬 realsetvin commented on issue "-usehd=1 no longer works":
(https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/31705#issuecomment-2605755120)
> [@realsetvin](https://github.com/realsetvin) Bitcoin Core does not, and has never, supported seed phrases. In descriptor wallets you can dump the private descriptors (see the `listdescriptors` RPC command), which can be written down in principle, and re-imported.
>
> `-usehd=1` is unrelated to seed phrases. It enabled HD wallets, which are now ubiquitous; you don't need to explicitly enable them.

okay I may be mixing up hd phrases with seed phrases but realistically they are the same right?

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💬 sipa commented on issue "-usehd=1 no longer works":
(https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/31705#issuecomment-2605760118)
> okay I may be mixing up hd phrases with seed phrases but realistically they are the same right?

No, HD key derivation is BIP32. Seed phrases can refer to a number of things, but most commonly the ones specified in BIP39.

> why do bitcoin copies have the function but bitcoin dosent?

This is not a property of the currency, but of the software. There are lots of Bitcoin wallets that support seed phrases. Bitcoin Core just happens to not be one of them.

> what can I do to write down my backup
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💬 realsetvin commented on issue "-usehd=1 no longer works":
(https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/31705#issuecomment-2605761606)
> > okay I may be mixing up hd phrases with seed phrases but realistically they are the same right?
>
> No, HD key derivation is BIP32. Seed phrases can refer to a number of things, but most commonly the ones specified in BIP39.
>
> > why do bitcoin copies have the function but bitcoin dosent?
>
> This is not a property of the currency, but of the software. There are lots of Bitcoin wallets that support seed phrases. Bitcoin Core just happens to not be one of them.
>
> > what can I do to wri
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💬 realsetvin commented on issue "-usehd=1 no longer works":
(https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/31705#issuecomment-2605762427)
> > okay I may be mixing up hd phrases with seed phrases but realistically they are the same right?
>
> No, HD key derivation is BIP32. Seed phrases can refer to a number of things, but most commonly the ones specified in BIP39.
>
> > why do bitcoin copies have the function but bitcoin dosent?
>
> This is not a property of the currency, but of the software. There are lots of Bitcoin wallets that support seed phrases. Bitcoin Core just happens to not be one of them.
>
> > what can I do to wri
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💬 sipa commented on issue "-usehd=1 no longer works":
(https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/31705#issuecomment-2605763751)
Again, Bitcoin Core does not, and has never supported seed phrases.

💬 realsetvin commented on issue "-usehd=1 no longer works":
(https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/31705#issuecomment-2605764959)
> Again, Bitcoin Core does not, and has never supported seed phrases.

in that case, am I falsely attributing something on dash to bitcoin?

what about hd phrases?

💬 realsetvin commented on issue "-usehd=1 no longer works":
(https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/31705#issuecomment-2605767749)
I understand you're annoyed that I dont know everything you know, maybe you can see im trying to learn. Any attempt of explanation would help.

💬 maflcko commented on issue "-usehd=1 no longer works":
(https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/31705#issuecomment-2605768299)
> im familiar with the function of bitcoin core, can I use an older version?

See https://bitcoincore.org/en/lifecycle/

💬 sipa commented on issue "-usehd=1 no longer works":
(https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/31705#issuecomment-2605768390)
> in that case, am I falsely attributing something on dash to bitcoin?

Again, this has nothing to do with the currency, but with the wallet software. If you want seed phrases, feel free to use any of the dozens of other Bitcoin wallet software out there that supports it. Bitcoin Core does not.

> what about hd phrases?

Bitcoin Core does not support HD phrases, or seed phrases, or phrases of any kind. It uses HD key derivation, however.