Its all lies
Someone came into my life as an acquaintance. They were an MLM hustler. I barely knew them personally but I just got caught up and following their saga on Instagram because it was like is this real? I was just watching their life with the travel and workshops and just wondering how are they doing that? She goes to the most expensive gym in the area, a gym that I find too expensive after being a successful professional for 25 years 😂 and I'm one half of a dual income family. But there were some things that didn't add up like why do you live in this tiny ass apartment if you're so successful?? Anyway it got kind of boring so I stopped following her but then one day just randomly on my feed a reel came up from someone who was totally outing her as a scammer/ thief! She said this lady comes up with stories to borrow money, like thousands of dollars from people, and then doesn't pay it back. The second lady got her money back but after months and months of hounding her. The first lady would give her all these stories about frozen accounts and stolen credit cards and whatever else... It sounds like there's many many more people who have not been paid back.
Anyway I know people say MLM people lie on Instagram and just fake their lifestyle. I thought maybe they just exaggerate, stretch the truth a little. But literally it was ALL a lie. I guess the scammer is now filing for bankruptcy. Fucking bankruptcy! Not even not making money, but digging an incredible hole. They have no scruples they will just lie!
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Someone came into my life as an acquaintance. They were an MLM hustler. I barely knew them personally but I just got caught up and following their saga on Instagram because it was like is this real? I was just watching their life with the travel and workshops and just wondering how are they doing that? She goes to the most expensive gym in the area, a gym that I find too expensive after being a successful professional for 25 years 😂 and I'm one half of a dual income family. But there were some things that didn't add up like why do you live in this tiny ass apartment if you're so successful?? Anyway it got kind of boring so I stopped following her but then one day just randomly on my feed a reel came up from someone who was totally outing her as a scammer/ thief! She said this lady comes up with stories to borrow money, like thousands of dollars from people, and then doesn't pay it back. The second lady got her money back but after months and months of hounding her. The first lady would give her all these stories about frozen accounts and stolen credit cards and whatever else... It sounds like there's many many more people who have not been paid back.
Anyway I know people say MLM people lie on Instagram and just fake their lifestyle. I thought maybe they just exaggerate, stretch the truth a little. But literally it was ALL a lie. I guess the scammer is now filing for bankruptcy. Fucking bankruptcy! Not even not making money, but digging an incredible hole. They have no scruples they will just lie!
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Pest Control MLMs Gone Wild?
Recently I have seen so so many people (especially young men in their late teens to early twenties) sign up for a summer “intern” company called Bugs Be Gone (there are other companies I have run into as well, but this seems the most common at least in the midwest area). It’s a door to door sales company that sells pest control services. My mom’s friends son (18) just signed up for it and is moving to FLORIDA (THOUSANDS of miles away) to do this “internship”. My friend’s boyfriend (21) moved to Wisconsin to do the exact same one as well. My friend’s boyfriend said he doesn’t get paid at all unless he sells something. I was curious and I asked if I would be able to know how much he was making on each sale and it was $150. My friend thinks he’s making good money but 1-2 sales per week is such little money when you’re paying for living expenses in these new places. I asked my friend more about this and she told me her boyfriend got “scammed” and was told they would be paid hourly but once they got there it was only commission with free housing. She also said that he has to knock on every door and ignore no soliciting signs no matter what. My mom’s friend’s daughter’s boyfriend also did this and recommended it to her son (recruitment??) and said it was a “great opportunity”. Yesterday, a man came to our door (early 20s maybe?) and was trying to get us to purchase this service. He didn’t have a permit. We told him that he needed one and he yelled at us saying he didn’t need one (he does). All of this to say #1 watch out. And #2 has ANYONE else noticed this or has more information?? I can’t find anything online about it!
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Recently I have seen so so many people (especially young men in their late teens to early twenties) sign up for a summer “intern” company called Bugs Be Gone (there are other companies I have run into as well, but this seems the most common at least in the midwest area). It’s a door to door sales company that sells pest control services. My mom’s friends son (18) just signed up for it and is moving to FLORIDA (THOUSANDS of miles away) to do this “internship”. My friend’s boyfriend (21) moved to Wisconsin to do the exact same one as well. My friend’s boyfriend said he doesn’t get paid at all unless he sells something. I was curious and I asked if I would be able to know how much he was making on each sale and it was $150. My friend thinks he’s making good money but 1-2 sales per week is such little money when you’re paying for living expenses in these new places. I asked my friend more about this and she told me her boyfriend got “scammed” and was told they would be paid hourly but once they got there it was only commission with free housing. She also said that he has to knock on every door and ignore no soliciting signs no matter what. My mom’s friend’s daughter’s boyfriend also did this and recommended it to her son (recruitment??) and said it was a “great opportunity”. Yesterday, a man came to our door (early 20s maybe?) and was trying to get us to purchase this service. He didn’t have a permit. We told him that he needed one and he yelled at us saying he didn’t need one (he does). All of this to say #1 watch out. And #2 has ANYONE else noticed this or has more information?? I can’t find anything online about it!
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MLM has turned my friend into a POS. Worth continuing the friendship?
I recently found out that one of my friends joined (sc)amway and while I was supportive at first, he’s beginning to take a turn for the worse. Our friends and I (all in our 20s) found out about our friend’s involvement by accident one night. He let it slip he had his “own business” and when we questioned him about it he pulled up his website and we soon gathered he was in an mlm. Unfortunately our initial reaction was to lecture him on how he’s involved in a scheme and urge him to get out. At the time we didn’t realize truly how deep he was in with it.
He’s been traveling to see his mentor every weekend, often spending the night at his house for a few days at a time. Lately, I’ve even noticed how he’s neglecting his full time engineering job, often leaving early and taking PTO to get more involved. It seems like he’s also grown very close with his mentors family, even venturing to leave work early this friday to go to his sons birthday party.
Yesterday, he sent us an invite to a launch party for his business. As soon as he said his mentors were going to be there, I knew he was going to try to recruit us even though I ADAMANTLY stated that I didn’t support this and don’t want any involvement in it. Last night a few of our friends got together to discuss if we should even go to this party to support him and walked away deciding no. This was decided after we listened to one of our friends phone call with him.
During that phone call, he let our friend know he ‘didn’t give a fck what any of us had to think or say’ as well as alluded to us being stupid for not understanding how “wealthy” he was about to become. He tried to then recruit my friend who feigned interest just to gather more information. He kept alluding to there being more ways to make money in Amway, which after my research I think he might mean recruiting more people and becoming a mentor himself, though I’m not too sure. When my friend asked him to explain more he started to grow aggravated , insisting it was too complex for him to understand. That is when things took a turn. He launched into a “red pill” “blue pill” analogy insisting that my friend just HAD to take the pill. He then asked our friend about what his goals were and when my friend responded that he wanted to continue to pursue hobbies and eventually get a doctorate degree he said something to the effect of his goals being an incredible waste of time. The entire call he was being super aggressive.
This all has left me with a few questions. Should I continue this friendship? He also kept insinuating during the call that there are things “we don’t know” about Amway. What else could he be talking about other than recruiting people? The way he kept saying it made it seem like this big thing.
If anyone also has any recent insider info on Amway I’d appreciate it.
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I recently found out that one of my friends joined (sc)amway and while I was supportive at first, he’s beginning to take a turn for the worse. Our friends and I (all in our 20s) found out about our friend’s involvement by accident one night. He let it slip he had his “own business” and when we questioned him about it he pulled up his website and we soon gathered he was in an mlm. Unfortunately our initial reaction was to lecture him on how he’s involved in a scheme and urge him to get out. At the time we didn’t realize truly how deep he was in with it.
He’s been traveling to see his mentor every weekend, often spending the night at his house for a few days at a time. Lately, I’ve even noticed how he’s neglecting his full time engineering job, often leaving early and taking PTO to get more involved. It seems like he’s also grown very close with his mentors family, even venturing to leave work early this friday to go to his sons birthday party.
Yesterday, he sent us an invite to a launch party for his business. As soon as he said his mentors were going to be there, I knew he was going to try to recruit us even though I ADAMANTLY stated that I didn’t support this and don’t want any involvement in it. Last night a few of our friends got together to discuss if we should even go to this party to support him and walked away deciding no. This was decided after we listened to one of our friends phone call with him.
During that phone call, he let our friend know he ‘didn’t give a fck what any of us had to think or say’ as well as alluded to us being stupid for not understanding how “wealthy” he was about to become. He tried to then recruit my friend who feigned interest just to gather more information. He kept alluding to there being more ways to make money in Amway, which after my research I think he might mean recruiting more people and becoming a mentor himself, though I’m not too sure. When my friend asked him to explain more he started to grow aggravated , insisting it was too complex for him to understand. That is when things took a turn. He launched into a “red pill” “blue pill” analogy insisting that my friend just HAD to take the pill. He then asked our friend about what his goals were and when my friend responded that he wanted to continue to pursue hobbies and eventually get a doctorate degree he said something to the effect of his goals being an incredible waste of time. The entire call he was being super aggressive.
This all has left me with a few questions. Should I continue this friendship? He also kept insinuating during the call that there are things “we don’t know” about Amway. What else could he be talking about other than recruiting people? The way he kept saying it made it seem like this big thing.
If anyone also has any recent insider info on Amway I’d appreciate it.
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Need help convincing VitaHealth by Dr. Rodriguez is a scam
My dad joined VitaHealth very clearly fake program where you get a diagnosis from a single finger scan of very expensive vitamins and he is pretty lost in it, me my mom and my sister have all had conversations about it with him but he’s convinced this machine is real, https://vitalhealthglobal.com is the website. Looking for advice or information I can give him to show him that this is a scam. We have all had several arguments about it with him, but just using logic isn’t enough I’d like something more concrete to show him.
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My dad joined VitaHealth very clearly fake program where you get a diagnosis from a single finger scan of very expensive vitamins and he is pretty lost in it, me my mom and my sister have all had conversations about it with him but he’s convinced this machine is real, https://vitalhealthglobal.com is the website. Looking for advice or information I can give him to show him that this is a scam. We have all had several arguments about it with him, but just using logic isn’t enough I’d like something more concrete to show him.
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my experience with mlm
Hi, I'm a uni student currently studying in my first year and I major in Information Systems. I got to know about mlm in my 2nd semester through a stranger on Facebook, he referred me to an "experienced upper level" to help me as I talk to him about my issues of losing motivation in my personal and study life. As time went by, I get to receive the support from the "upper levels & their environment" to overcome some of my struggles, and I felt that helped me improve my personality in some way.
note: ppl in this environment split out into many levels just like the scheme, every time i went out to seek guidance, it's not always the same one so i called "they" instead of a specific one.
After like 2 or 3 months, they gave me a choice to "thrive and build my foundation to achieve financial freedom" as a step to complete my bucket list. That's how I know about mlm, or network marketing as they say. There are no product pitches, less brainwashing lectures than I expected in a pyramid scheme. They also stated that their environment aims to achieve financial freedom, as a shared goal, prioritizes human over finance, stuff like that, except me (I didn't tell them, felt like an imposter at this point)
Skip to present, they are now suggesting me to build a "system" for myself for many reasons, such as: helping me look at myself better, relocate myself and my goals better, shaping me and improve my soft skills blah blah blah,... I feel like they're trying to FOMO'd me and getting me to lure more ppl to be involved in this "opportunity" thing, ex: "if u don't have foundation early, u wont be able to survive and improve urself ahh thing". For me, I don't like rushing, I have ADHD and am scared of talking to people, I want to try and improve, but I also do not want my acquaintances and relatives to be involved in this for many reasons, that's not me. I am involved because I just want to clarify my life choices, not getting money and spending time to prepare for a perfect me in god knows how long. I had a fever dream, in that dream I questioned myself if I go all in into mlm, will I actually lose myself, the answer I came up with was maybe.
Should I treat mlm and building networking systems as an opportunity to thrive and treat uni as a responsibility, or treat mlm as a side gig and focus on improving my everything in uni? I really really appreciated the people in the environment, and it's kinda awkward if I ditched after they helped me and introduced me into mlm. Thank you for reading my bullshit and sorry for bad grammar.
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Hi, I'm a uni student currently studying in my first year and I major in Information Systems. I got to know about mlm in my 2nd semester through a stranger on Facebook, he referred me to an "experienced upper level" to help me as I talk to him about my issues of losing motivation in my personal and study life. As time went by, I get to receive the support from the "upper levels & their environment" to overcome some of my struggles, and I felt that helped me improve my personality in some way.
note: ppl in this environment split out into many levels just like the scheme, every time i went out to seek guidance, it's not always the same one so i called "they" instead of a specific one.
After like 2 or 3 months, they gave me a choice to "thrive and build my foundation to achieve financial freedom" as a step to complete my bucket list. That's how I know about mlm, or network marketing as they say. There are no product pitches, less brainwashing lectures than I expected in a pyramid scheme. They also stated that their environment aims to achieve financial freedom, as a shared goal, prioritizes human over finance, stuff like that, except me (I didn't tell them, felt like an imposter at this point)
Skip to present, they are now suggesting me to build a "system" for myself for many reasons, such as: helping me look at myself better, relocate myself and my goals better, shaping me and improve my soft skills blah blah blah,... I feel like they're trying to FOMO'd me and getting me to lure more ppl to be involved in this "opportunity" thing, ex: "if u don't have foundation early, u wont be able to survive and improve urself ahh thing". For me, I don't like rushing, I have ADHD and am scared of talking to people, I want to try and improve, but I also do not want my acquaintances and relatives to be involved in this for many reasons, that's not me. I am involved because I just want to clarify my life choices, not getting money and spending time to prepare for a perfect me in god knows how long. I had a fever dream, in that dream I questioned myself if I go all in into mlm, will I actually lose myself, the answer I came up with was maybe.
Should I treat mlm and building networking systems as an opportunity to thrive and treat uni as a responsibility, or treat mlm as a side gig and focus on improving my everything in uni? I really really appreciated the people in the environment, and it's kinda awkward if I ditched after they helped me and introduced me into mlm. Thank you for reading my bullshit and sorry for bad grammar.
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What was the strangest part of the culture in MLM to you?
The whole “no negativity“ thing to a degree, I live in a country where the weather is very unpredictable and changes aggressively, and even acknowledging that “its raining” was seem as being negative and you’d be belittled for it.
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The whole “no negativity“ thing to a degree, I live in a country where the weather is very unpredictable and changes aggressively, and even acknowledging that “its raining” was seem as being negative and you’d be belittled for it.
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My parents haven’t been in Amway for YEARS. My dad still talks highly about it 💀
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From the antiMLM community on Reddit: My parents haven’t been in Amway for YEARS. My dad still talks highly about it 💀
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