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"Diana says she likes crime novels. Let's give her policing."
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Yes. She doesn't need to look any further than her own government if she's interested in crime. She could ask Keir Starmer what he did to stop Jimmy Saville preying on defenceless children in hospitals for a start.
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There has been some chatter about making use of the armed forces, in relation to the instances of violent disorder in the UK at the moment.
This is called MACA--military aid to the civil authorities--and it is certainly not a given.
From JDP02:
"Military aid to the civil authorities
(MACA)
Military operations conducted in the UK and Crown Dependencies involving the employment of Defence resources as
requested by a government department or civil authority. This is subject to Defence
ministerial approval, either prior to, or at the time of an event."
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https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/6384a153e90e0778a511ab69/20221128-JDP_02_Web.pdf
This is called MACA--military aid to the civil authorities--and it is certainly not a given.
From JDP02:
"Military aid to the civil authorities
(MACA)
Military operations conducted in the UK and Crown Dependencies involving the employment of Defence resources as
requested by a government department or civil authority. This is subject to Defence
ministerial approval, either prior to, or at the time of an event."
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https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/6384a153e90e0778a511ab69/20221128-JDP_02_Web.pdf
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In some ways, this is hard to watch, because it exposes the gaping void between the quality and depth of debate in years gone by and the idiotic paddling in the shallows that we see today. However, listening to Powell and Miller talking is riveting, partly because of the number of very well considered points they make, but mostly because they are able to avoid falling out with one another.
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Enoch Powell & Jonathan Miller Debate Issues Around UK Immigration | The Dick Cavett Show
Broadcast from London, British politician Enoch Powell and British director and author Jonathan Miller debate issues around UK immigration including comparing the impacts of an ageing population to those of immigration. Featuring Dick Cavett.
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This was posted by Clare yesterday and I will respond below it.
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I just want to jump in here on the arrest of the person for posting an inaccurate tweet.
The attached is, imho, very badly written. As far as I know, and unless there has been a radical change in law in the last few days, it is not a criminal offence to post inaccurate information due to not checking it's veracity.
The law states the following :-
It is an offence to a) intentionally stir racial hatred; b) knowingly publish false information intending to cause non-trivial harm
My understanding is that the person arrested is accused of this statutory definition. Hence why I think the Cheshire Police post is itself disinformation in a way, and as I say, very badly written.
I would welcome the thoughts of Charles Malet on this, ex policeman. He will likely know more than me on the broader context of these offences
The attached is, imho, very badly written. As far as I know, and unless there has been a radical change in law in the last few days, it is not a criminal offence to post inaccurate information due to not checking it's veracity.
The law states the following :-
It is an offence to a) intentionally stir racial hatred; b) knowingly publish false information intending to cause non-trivial harm
My understanding is that the person arrested is accused of this statutory definition. Hence why I think the Cheshire Police post is itself disinformation in a way, and as I say, very badly written.
I would welcome the thoughts of Charles Malet on this, ex policeman. He will likely know more than me on the broader context of these offences
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Cheshire Police announced on Thursday that they had arrested a woman for offences under s19 of the Public Order Act 1986 and s179 of the Online Safety Act (OSA) 2023. They then tweeted that “It’s a stark reminder of the dangers of posting information on social media platforms without checking the accuracy. It also acts as a warning that we are all accountable for our actions, whether that be online or in person.”
The phrase upon which this arrest hangs is "without checking the accuracy" and how, exactly, such a judgement may be arrived at. Section 179 OSA 2023 says a person commits an offence if a message sent "conveys information that the person knows to be false" and that "the person intended the message, or the information in it, to cause non-trivial psychological or physical harm to a likely audience". First of all, with regard to a social media post, "it is not necessary for the purposes of subsection (1)(c) that the person intended to cause harm to any one of them in particular (or to all of them)", so we are immediately in the zone of imagined harm, rather than actual or intended harm.
With regard to a "false communication offence", the most significant part comes in s180, which states that "A recognised news publisher cannot commit an offence under section 179." Yes, you really did read that correctly. The BBC, for example, may send a message they know to be false, with the specific intent to cause "non-trivial psychological harm". In other words, state-sponsored propaganda is legitimised in statute by OSA 2023.
Back to Cheshire, it is inferred by police that the message or messages sent, with false information, were sent in the knowledge that the information was false and that the reasons for doing so were both to cause psychological harm and to stir up racial hatred. There is a considerable gulf between "checking the accuracy" of a message and sending one which "conveys information that the person knows to be false". It is not clear whether the alleged offence here is the genesis of an incorrect story, or the promulgation of one, but the critical detail should be whether the suspect believed the information to be true, or not.
The onus is on police to demonstrate intent, by means of an investigation, which would involve an interview. Transmitting information, which subsequently turns out to be false, cannot automatically be presumed to be loaded with the intent to either stir up racial hatred, or to cause psychological harm. However, there is increasing precedent in this area, seen most obviously in the case of Sam Melia, where CPS gave a description of the magnitude of his intent, based on very peripheral and circumstantial evidence. Sending messages which turn out to be inaccurate may be considered reckless, but recklessness is not one of the elements which may make up an offence under s179 OSA 2023.
What, one wonders, would have happened if such a message had been sent, suggesting that the suspect in the Southport killings had been white British, with white British parents?
The phrase upon which this arrest hangs is "without checking the accuracy" and how, exactly, such a judgement may be arrived at. Section 179 OSA 2023 says a person commits an offence if a message sent "conveys information that the person knows to be false" and that "the person intended the message, or the information in it, to cause non-trivial psychological or physical harm to a likely audience". First of all, with regard to a social media post, "it is not necessary for the purposes of subsection (1)(c) that the person intended to cause harm to any one of them in particular (or to all of them)", so we are immediately in the zone of imagined harm, rather than actual or intended harm.
With regard to a "false communication offence", the most significant part comes in s180, which states that "A recognised news publisher cannot commit an offence under section 179." Yes, you really did read that correctly. The BBC, for example, may send a message they know to be false, with the specific intent to cause "non-trivial psychological harm". In other words, state-sponsored propaganda is legitimised in statute by OSA 2023.
Back to Cheshire, it is inferred by police that the message or messages sent, with false information, were sent in the knowledge that the information was false and that the reasons for doing so were both to cause psychological harm and to stir up racial hatred. There is a considerable gulf between "checking the accuracy" of a message and sending one which "conveys information that the person knows to be false". It is not clear whether the alleged offence here is the genesis of an incorrect story, or the promulgation of one, but the critical detail should be whether the suspect believed the information to be true, or not.
The onus is on police to demonstrate intent, by means of an investigation, which would involve an interview. Transmitting information, which subsequently turns out to be false, cannot automatically be presumed to be loaded with the intent to either stir up racial hatred, or to cause psychological harm. However, there is increasing precedent in this area, seen most obviously in the case of Sam Melia, where CPS gave a description of the magnitude of his intent, based on very peripheral and circumstantial evidence. Sending messages which turn out to be inaccurate may be considered reckless, but recklessness is not one of the elements which may make up an offence under s179 OSA 2023.
What, one wonders, would have happened if such a message had been sent, suggesting that the suspect in the Southport killings had been white British, with white British parents?
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Forwarded from Vanessa Beeley
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Peter Ford, formerly British Ambassador to Bahrain and to Syria, making a clear and simple case about the consequences of creating "wars of choice".
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QDBoEZgqNM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QDBoEZgqNM
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UK riots are chickens coming home to roost for criminal British foreign policy in the Middle East
Former British Ambassador to the Middle East Peter Ford explains how the criminal wars under successive British governments are directly responsible for the riots and current mayhem.
Peter Ford served as a diplomat in the Middle East. He is now deputy leader…
Peter Ford served as a diplomat in the Middle East. He is now deputy leader…
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According to the way in which this ONS data on suicides is presented, there appears to have been an enormous decrease in the 60+ age group, during the past 40 years.
Is such a change likely to have taken place? With the enormous push towards "assisted" dying, it seems reasonable to consider the possibility that such statistics have been massaged, though to suggest what, exactly?
2020, and beyond, exposed the enormous corruption in the process by which deaths are recorded and to what they are attributed.
Don't be put off by the graphic, which comes from the Mail. It's just that they've coloured theirs in much better than ONS did.
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https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/bulletins/suicidesintheunitedkingdom/2022registrations
Is such a change likely to have taken place? With the enormous push towards "assisted" dying, it seems reasonable to consider the possibility that such statistics have been massaged, though to suggest what, exactly?
2020, and beyond, exposed the enormous corruption in the process by which deaths are recorded and to what they are attributed.
Don't be put off by the graphic, which comes from the Mail. It's just that they've coloured theirs in much better than ONS did.
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https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/bulletins/suicidesintheunitedkingdom/2022registrations
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A Substack post about the duty of a terrorist Government to intimidate the population, and how the Online Safety Act may help them do it.
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https://open.substack.com/pub/charlesmalet/p/niemoller-on-the-bench
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https://open.substack.com/pub/charlesmalet/p/niemoller-on-the-bench
Charles’s Substack: The Challenge
Niemöller on the bench
They will come for you eventually
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Forwarded from Rise
My Delingpole interview from last September gives some useful insight into the cultural Marxist agenda.
Covering My Life My Say, Mete Coban, Tony Blair, global ‘philanthropy’, the Great Replacement and how the establishment is desperate to start a race war on the streets of the UK.
https://odysee.com/@JamesDelingpoleChannel:0/2023-09-21_Ben-Rubin:b
Covering My Life My Say, Mete Coban, Tony Blair, global ‘philanthropy’, the Great Replacement and how the establishment is desperate to start a race war on the streets of the UK.
https://odysee.com/@JamesDelingpoleChannel:0/2023-09-21_Ben-Rubin:b
Odysee
Ben Rubin
Ben Rubin is a former management consultant, turned political and cultural dissident.
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Adapt and overcome: UK Column News from today, 14th August 2024. We had a bit of a technical climb to negotiate, but it turned out well in the end. A slightly extended programme, with Brian Gerrish, Vanessa Beeley and Charles Malet.
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