Question and Answer About National Socialism's Dissolving of Classes: Is it Anti-Traditional? NO!
QUESITION:
"Hitler's National-Socialism did away with hierarchy and class in society emphasizing each citizen as a unit with its own dignity. So would National-Socialism be part of the "White Liberal Science Based Ideology" since that ideology also disregards hierarchy and class in favor of the "citizen" ?? I ask because I have always put NS in the Traditional camp but maybe NS was somewhat Humanist/Liberal??? Then I have to ask myself is this a bad thing about NS?"
ANSWER:
It did away with the hierarchy and classes that were the product of the bourgeois revolutions of the 18th century. In other words, the money based plutocratic hierarchies of the liberal world order.
In doing so, it revigorated a more traditional spirit of aristocracy in the form of a revolutionary state in the modern context.
To be more technical, it dissolved "large class" structures that were the product of modernity and bourgeois rule, and instituted a top down "rank based" martial order. The old classes were replaced with an organic body that was still hierarchical, but free of the dialectical class tensions of liberal democratic states. By dissolving large classes, the "organic body" became more efficient and a far more meritocratic hierarchy animated by the spirit of the National Socialist government drove German society forward.
To better understand this, it is recommended you read "The Little ABC's of the National Socialists" by Dr. Joseph Goebbels.
"Socialism is the doctrine of liberation for the working class. It promotes the rise of the fourth class and its incorporation in the political organism of our Fatherland, and is inextricably bound to breaking the present slavery and regaining German freedom. Socialism, therefore, is not merely a matter of the oppressed class, but a matter for everyone, for freeing the German people from slavery is the goal of contemporary policy. Socialism gains its true form only through a total fighting brotherhood with the forward-striving energies of a newly awakened nationalism. Without nationalism it is nothing, a phantom, a mere theory, a castle in the sky, a book. With it is everything, the future, freedom, the fatherland!"
- Dr. Joseph Goebbels,
Those Damn Nazis (1932)
Promotion of the organisation of society via a top-down state-directed guild system or corporations (in the medieval sense, not like in capitalism) organised by professions, was their answer to left-wing Syndicalism, radical nationalism and social conservatism thereby promoting order, hierarchy and a traditionalist family values. Thus, it was a subset of fascist corporatism, but also was more revolutionary, with more emphasis on struggle, the proletariat and anti-capitalism.
Mussolini was one of the first to disseminate this term, explaining that:
"Fascist syndicalism is national and productivisticโฆ in a national society in which labor becomes a joy, an object of pride and a denomination to nobility."
QUESITION:
"Hitler's National-Socialism did away with hierarchy and class in society emphasizing each citizen as a unit with its own dignity. So would National-Socialism be part of the "White Liberal Science Based Ideology" since that ideology also disregards hierarchy and class in favor of the "citizen" ?? I ask because I have always put NS in the Traditional camp but maybe NS was somewhat Humanist/Liberal??? Then I have to ask myself is this a bad thing about NS?"
ANSWER:
It did away with the hierarchy and classes that were the product of the bourgeois revolutions of the 18th century. In other words, the money based plutocratic hierarchies of the liberal world order.
In doing so, it revigorated a more traditional spirit of aristocracy in the form of a revolutionary state in the modern context.
To be more technical, it dissolved "large class" structures that were the product of modernity and bourgeois rule, and instituted a top down "rank based" martial order. The old classes were replaced with an organic body that was still hierarchical, but free of the dialectical class tensions of liberal democratic states. By dissolving large classes, the "organic body" became more efficient and a far more meritocratic hierarchy animated by the spirit of the National Socialist government drove German society forward.
To better understand this, it is recommended you read "The Little ABC's of the National Socialists" by Dr. Joseph Goebbels.
"Socialism is the doctrine of liberation for the working class. It promotes the rise of the fourth class and its incorporation in the political organism of our Fatherland, and is inextricably bound to breaking the present slavery and regaining German freedom. Socialism, therefore, is not merely a matter of the oppressed class, but a matter for everyone, for freeing the German people from slavery is the goal of contemporary policy. Socialism gains its true form only through a total fighting brotherhood with the forward-striving energies of a newly awakened nationalism. Without nationalism it is nothing, a phantom, a mere theory, a castle in the sky, a book. With it is everything, the future, freedom, the fatherland!"
- Dr. Joseph Goebbels,
Those Damn Nazis (1932)
Promotion of the organisation of society via a top-down state-directed guild system or corporations (in the medieval sense, not like in capitalism) organised by professions, was their answer to left-wing Syndicalism, radical nationalism and social conservatism thereby promoting order, hierarchy and a traditionalist family values. Thus, it was a subset of fascist corporatism, but also was more revolutionary, with more emphasis on struggle, the proletariat and anti-capitalism.
Mussolini was one of the first to disseminate this term, explaining that:
"Fascist syndicalism is national and productivisticโฆ in a national society in which labor becomes a joy, an object of pride and a denomination to nobility."
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The Little ABC of the National Socialists
by Dr. Joseph Goebbels
This primer on the NS doctrine quickly became a best-seller. Written in a Q&A format, it ended up being one of the most popular publications explaining the NS worldview.
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by Dr. Joseph Goebbels
This primer on the NS doctrine quickly became a best-seller. Written in a Q&A format, it ended up being one of the most popular publications explaining the NS worldview.
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The Problem with Dr. E. Michael Jones's "Catholic Holocaust" Narrative
Part 1 of 3
Dr. E. Michael Jones has tried to create a Catholic "Holocaust" narrative by relying on the Memoir written by Fr. Johann Lenz - "Christ in Dachau".
Since we do actual historical research, we contacted the Dachau Museum and the Arolsen Genocide Archives (an archive that documents German "atrocities"). The Arolsen archives got back to us with the German files on Fr. Johann Lenz.
Turns out he was actively opposing the Nazis politically, violating the Concordat and aiding the enemy by distributing atrocity propaganda.
Dr. Jones didn't do his historical research and, like most Americans, is desperate to fabricate a narrative that paints Catholics as victims of the Nazis rather than acknowledging that there are a lot of nuances which blur the lines between various groups and that there were indeed many Germans who were both faithful Catholics and good National Socialists.
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Part 1 of 3
Dr. E. Michael Jones has tried to create a Catholic "Holocaust" narrative by relying on the Memoir written by Fr. Johann Lenz - "Christ in Dachau".
Since we do actual historical research, we contacted the Dachau Museum and the Arolsen Genocide Archives (an archive that documents German "atrocities"). The Arolsen archives got back to us with the German files on Fr. Johann Lenz.
Turns out he was actively opposing the Nazis politically, violating the Concordat and aiding the enemy by distributing atrocity propaganda.
Dr. Jones didn't do his historical research and, like most Americans, is desperate to fabricate a narrative that paints Catholics as victims of the Nazis rather than acknowledging that there are a lot of nuances which blur the lines between various groups and that there were indeed many Germans who were both faithful Catholics and good National Socialists.
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Arolsen Archives - Johann lenz file.pdf
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The Problem with Dr. E. Michael Jones's "Catholic Holocaust" Narrative
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This is an Austrian Police file from the Arlosen Archives. It's a daily report from Nov. 17-18th, 1938. It was specifically sent to us after we asked the archives to provide us with a copy.
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German soldiers visiting with a Polish Bishop at a Polish Church
The Origins of the "Catholic Church Stood Against the Third Reich" Myth
German Newspaper Archives Refute Dr. E Michael Jones's myth of a "Catholic Holocaust" or "totalitarian control of peoples' minds"
On the persecution of Political Catholics like Alfred Delp
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This is an Austrian Police file from the Arlosen Archives. It's a daily report from Nov. 17-18th, 1938. It was specifically sent to us after we asked the archives to provide us with a copy.
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German soldiers visiting with a Polish Bishop at a Polish Church
The Origins of the "Catholic Church Stood Against the Third Reich" Myth
German Newspaper Archives Refute Dr. E Michael Jones's myth of a "Catholic Holocaust" or "totalitarian control of peoples' minds"
On the persecution of Political Catholics like Alfred Delp
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The Problem with Dr. E. Michael Jones's "Catholic Holocaust" Narrative
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The important parts of the police reports state the following:
"The Jesuit Priest Johann Lenz, born April 7, 1902 in Gratz, Dr., lives in Kalksburg near Vienna,
A few weeks ago in St. Andrรค in Carinthia, he incited the population with derogatory statements about the leader and the state leadership with the following statements:
"Our newspapers are exaggeratingly inciting people against the Czechs, If a war breaks out, Germany will be alone, no one will help it, not even Italy. Hitler is Satan on the loose. All riots happen with his will. Hitler Youth of both sexes were left to their own devices naked in a room. Crucifixes are thrown out of schools and hospitals and we priests are not allowed to say anything but only preach water soup. Everyone of those who shouts 'Heil Hitler' will bitterly regret it. If we were still doing well, like the Sudeten Germans, we could be happy. Austria has been shamefully robbed and it is a disgrace that this could happen without resistance."
The investigation into Lenz is continuing because there is a suspicion that he is delivering atrocity propaganda abroad.
Johann Lenz was arrested for insulting the leader and spreading disturbing rumors. He tried to get into closer contact with the former Federal Chancellor Kurt Schuschnigg under the pretext that he wanted to confess to him.
Johann Lenz was strongly suspected of being in close contact with enemies of the National Socialist state abroad.
He was therefore initially left at large in order to be able to carry out unobtrusive surveillance. Johann Lenz received a document from the Jesuit priest Johann Aschauer, who lived in Kalksburg, under the position of 'descent of the Reichsleiter Rosenberg', which he occupied.
He also copied a report on the 'Raid on the Archbishop's Palace in Vienna'. Father Lenz sent copies to Msgn. Karl Krenn, Graz Bรผrgergasse No. 2 and Frater Franz Prayer, Innsbruck, Strasse der Sudetendeutsche No. 6, and to the monastery burden Josef Fercher in the St. Andrรค monastery in Carinthia.
According to confidential reports, Father Lenz misused the confessional for political atrocity propaganda. He also made derogatory and hateful comments among his acquaintances about Gauleiter Josef Brรผckel. More reports to follow."
CONCLUSION:
From the above report, we can begin to understand why Fr. Lenz was prosecuted by the German government and why it was right and proper of the German authorities to do so. He was inciting his congregation against the Reich by spreading false rumors. Worst of all, Lenz was using the Catholic confessionals in the Church to spread his seditious political activities!
This was a gross violation of the concordat. Catholic priests are subject to their Bishops, just like a soldier in the military is subject to his general. As far as we know, no Bishops in the Reich instructed their priests to violate the concordat with seditious activities and use the confessionals in such a manner!
Political clerics who actively engaged in criminal and treasonous activities were correctly prosecuted for their actions and Fr. Johann Lenz is but only one example of this.
Even from the Church's perspective, Fr. Lenz acted against the will of the Church by engaging in criminal and unauthorized activities contrary to the instructions of his authorities both civic and ecclesiastical.
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BEHIND THE DICTATORS:
A Factual Analysis of the
Relationship of Nazi-Fascism
and Roman Catholicism
The Great Lie of Political Catholicism
Reinhard Heydrich on Political Clericalism
Adolf Hitler on โrescuing clergymen from politicsโ
Adolf Hitler: In Defense of the Sacred and the Revered
Leon Degrelle on Hitlerโs faith
6 chapters on Christianity and National Socialism
The Truth About National Socialismโs Relationship to the Christian Religion
Hitler and Mount Athos
Part 3 of 3
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The important parts of the police reports state the following:
"The Jesuit Priest Johann Lenz, born April 7, 1902 in Gratz, Dr., lives in Kalksburg near Vienna,
A few weeks ago in St. Andrรค in Carinthia, he incited the population with derogatory statements about the leader and the state leadership with the following statements:
"Our newspapers are exaggeratingly inciting people against the Czechs, If a war breaks out, Germany will be alone, no one will help it, not even Italy. Hitler is Satan on the loose. All riots happen with his will. Hitler Youth of both sexes were left to their own devices naked in a room. Crucifixes are thrown out of schools and hospitals and we priests are not allowed to say anything but only preach water soup. Everyone of those who shouts 'Heil Hitler' will bitterly regret it. If we were still doing well, like the Sudeten Germans, we could be happy. Austria has been shamefully robbed and it is a disgrace that this could happen without resistance."
The investigation into Lenz is continuing because there is a suspicion that he is delivering atrocity propaganda abroad.
Johann Lenz was arrested for insulting the leader and spreading disturbing rumors. He tried to get into closer contact with the former Federal Chancellor Kurt Schuschnigg under the pretext that he wanted to confess to him.
Johann Lenz was strongly suspected of being in close contact with enemies of the National Socialist state abroad.
He was therefore initially left at large in order to be able to carry out unobtrusive surveillance. Johann Lenz received a document from the Jesuit priest Johann Aschauer, who lived in Kalksburg, under the position of 'descent of the Reichsleiter Rosenberg', which he occupied.
He also copied a report on the 'Raid on the Archbishop's Palace in Vienna'. Father Lenz sent copies to Msgn. Karl Krenn, Graz Bรผrgergasse No. 2 and Frater Franz Prayer, Innsbruck, Strasse der Sudetendeutsche No. 6, and to the monastery burden Josef Fercher in the St. Andrรค monastery in Carinthia.
According to confidential reports, Father Lenz misused the confessional for political atrocity propaganda. He also made derogatory and hateful comments among his acquaintances about Gauleiter Josef Brรผckel. More reports to follow."
CONCLUSION:
From the above report, we can begin to understand why Fr. Lenz was prosecuted by the German government and why it was right and proper of the German authorities to do so. He was inciting his congregation against the Reich by spreading false rumors. Worst of all, Lenz was using the Catholic confessionals in the Church to spread his seditious political activities!
This was a gross violation of the concordat. Catholic priests are subject to their Bishops, just like a soldier in the military is subject to his general. As far as we know, no Bishops in the Reich instructed their priests to violate the concordat with seditious activities and use the confessionals in such a manner!
Political clerics who actively engaged in criminal and treasonous activities were correctly prosecuted for their actions and Fr. Johann Lenz is but only one example of this.
Even from the Church's perspective, Fr. Lenz acted against the will of the Church by engaging in criminal and unauthorized activities contrary to the instructions of his authorities both civic and ecclesiastical.
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SEE ALSO:
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BEHIND THE DICTATORS:
A Factual Analysis of the
Relationship of Nazi-Fascism
and Roman Catholicism
The Great Lie of Political Catholicism
Reinhard Heydrich on Political Clericalism
Adolf Hitler on โrescuing clergymen from politicsโ
Adolf Hitler: In Defense of the Sacred and the Revered
Leon Degrelle on Hitlerโs faith
6 chapters on Christianity and National Socialism
The Truth About National Socialismโs Relationship to the Christian Religion
Hitler and Mount Athos
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Dr. Joseph Goebbels calls on the Folk to keep fighting in defense of the Fatherland
"The enemy will soon find out that Cologne and Koningsberg will present a far greater challenge than taking Paris or Bucharest. In recent weeks we have been working feverishly to build a new vast wall. Having seen these great new fortifications, I feel that I must thank my native Rhinelanders for all their hard work. I am under no illusion that life would be any better for us if our country were invaded and occupied by the British, Americans or Russians. Thus, we will work till our hands are bloodied raw and fight to the last man before we let them invade and enslave our Fatherland! I call upon the whole German nation and my own people from the Rhine to never give up and to keep fighting and defending this land like a fortress to the bitter end."
-- Dr. Joseph Goebbels (1945)
"The enemy will soon find out that Cologne and Koningsberg will present a far greater challenge than taking Paris or Bucharest. In recent weeks we have been working feverishly to build a new vast wall. Having seen these great new fortifications, I feel that I must thank my native Rhinelanders for all their hard work. I am under no illusion that life would be any better for us if our country were invaded and occupied by the British, Americans or Russians. Thus, we will work till our hands are bloodied raw and fight to the last man before we let them invade and enslave our Fatherland! I call upon the whole German nation and my own people from the Rhine to never give up and to keep fighting and defending this land like a fortress to the bitter end."
-- Dr. Joseph Goebbels (1945)
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Elmer Davis -- World War 2 Director of U.S. Office of War Information -- on the Best Way to Spread Propaganda
"The easiest way to propagate an idea into most people's minds is to let it go through the medium of entertainment picture while they do not realize that they are being propagandized."
-- From Hollywood Goes to War
"The easiest way to propagate an idea into most people's minds is to let it go through the medium of entertainment picture while they do not realize that they are being propagandized."
-- From Hollywood Goes to War
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From the book "The Making of the Atom Bomb" by Richard Rhodes.
Herbert S. Marks was a communist on the project. So here we have a communist admitting the goal of the (fake) nuclear bombs was the destruction of national sovereignty.
Herbert S. Marks was a communist on the project. So here we have a communist admitting the goal of the (fake) nuclear bombs was the destruction of national sovereignty.
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More evidence of a Pearl Harbor False Flag?
From pp. 437-438 of the 1946 Joint Committee on the Investigation of the Pearl Harbor attack, Congress of the United States.
On the Morning of the Pearl Harbor attack, 3 of the U.S. secretaries met and reviewed an intelligence brief that listed the names and locations of all the major naval vessels as of Dec. 7th in the Pacific of all the major powers including Japan. While it showed a large fleet moving southward into IndoChina, the name of all the vessels named in the Pearl Harbor attack were still in Japanese home islands at 2 naval bases.
There's a problem, the Japanese allegedly doing the attack were under orders of radio silence since Nov. 26th. Their intelligence reports should have notice a massive silence on the radio waves from 35 major vessels after Nov. 26th going silent, yet on Dec. 7th, they were confidently reported still at Japanese naval bases.
From pp. 437-438 of the 1946 Joint Committee on the Investigation of the Pearl Harbor attack, Congress of the United States.
On the Morning of the Pearl Harbor attack, 3 of the U.S. secretaries met and reviewed an intelligence brief that listed the names and locations of all the major naval vessels as of Dec. 7th in the Pacific of all the major powers including Japan. While it showed a large fleet moving southward into IndoChina, the name of all the vessels named in the Pearl Harbor attack were still in Japanese home islands at 2 naval bases.
There's a problem, the Japanese allegedly doing the attack were under orders of radio silence since Nov. 26th. Their intelligence reports should have notice a massive silence on the radio waves from 35 major vessels after Nov. 26th going silent, yet on Dec. 7th, they were confidently reported still at Japanese naval bases.
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America, the "arsenal of democracy" fighting totalitarianism, by funding totalitarian communism
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Pearl Harbor, a False Flag?
It seems as though, just like the holocaust, while they tell the masses there's so many Japanese documents about the attack. The U.S. military reports say the opposite: that there is a paucity of first hand documents and everything is constructed from interviews post-war.
https://ibiblio.org/pha/monos/097/index.html
It seems as though, just like the holocaust, while they tell the masses there's so many Japanese documents about the attack. The U.S. military reports say the opposite: that there is a paucity of first hand documents and everything is constructed from interviews post-war.
https://ibiblio.org/pha/monos/097/index.html
Forwarded from Australian Christian Fascists (C R)
Pearl Harbor False Flag?
Here's an excerpt from General MacArthur's staff report written during the American occupation of Japan "documenting" the Japanese surprise attack on Pearl Harbor.
So it seems the Japanese left the section about a surprise attack, [square brackets] blank, and the Americans got a Japanese officer to fill it in post-war (see footnotes).
https://archive.org/details/ReportsOfGeneralMacarthurJapaneseOperations-nsia
Here's an excerpt from General MacArthur's staff report written during the American occupation of Japan "documenting" the Japanese surprise attack on Pearl Harbor.
So it seems the Japanese left the section about a surprise attack, [square brackets] blank, and the Americans got a Japanese officer to fill it in post-war (see footnotes).
https://archive.org/details/ReportsOfGeneralMacarthurJapaneseOperations-nsia
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Pearl Harbor False Flag?
On December 8th, the day after the allaged attack by the Japanese on Pearl Harbor, U.S. President FDR claimed the Japanese attacked before a declaration of war, and then the newspapers printed the alledged Japanese declaration of war that day.
But here on Dec. 16th, FDR says the Japanese actually wanted peace, and the story makes no mention of the declaration of war by Japan on December 8th.
So was the Japanese declaration of war made up by the Americans/British?
On December 8th, the day after the allaged attack by the Japanese on Pearl Harbor, U.S. President FDR claimed the Japanese attacked before a declaration of war, and then the newspapers printed the alledged Japanese declaration of war that day.
But here on Dec. 16th, FDR says the Japanese actually wanted peace, and the story makes no mention of the declaration of war by Japan on December 8th.
So was the Japanese declaration of war made up by the Americans/British?
Forwarded from Australian Christian Fascists (C R)
The Pearl Harbor narrative is that the Japanese published the declaration of war in every Japanese newspaper on the 8th every month for the whole war so the Japanese didn't forget.
This seems like "the lady doth protest too much" and more of a story to make people in allied countries believe it was so obvious it was the Japanese that it couldn't possibly be anyone else.
This seems like "the lady doth protest too much" and more of a story to make people in allied countries believe it was so obvious it was the Japanese that it couldn't possibly be anyone else.
Forwarded from Australian Christian Fascists (C R)
What FDR is deliberately doing is setting up false narratives for future historians to ever debate and even the revisionist "Roosevelt let it happen" narrative, so long as you always believe the Japanese conducted the attack:
1) Japanese did a surprise attack and then declared war
2) Japanese were talking about peace but then did a surprise attack with no declaration of war. Because if the Japanese declared war anyways the surprise attack is kind of superfluous.
3) The modern Japanese revisionist narrative is the Japanese were trying to issue the declaration of war at the precise time of the attack, but a series of blunderings in decrypting and translating the message delayed the message. But this contradicts the claim of the pearl Harbor attack group being under complete radio silence, since it would require perfect communication between the Fleet captains and the embassy.
4) the revisionist - "FDR let it happen". Which isn't recent but was written about almost as soon as the U.S. entered the war.
1) Japanese did a surprise attack and then declared war
2) Japanese were talking about peace but then did a surprise attack with no declaration of war. Because if the Japanese declared war anyways the surprise attack is kind of superfluous.
3) The modern Japanese revisionist narrative is the Japanese were trying to issue the declaration of war at the precise time of the attack, but a series of blunderings in decrypting and translating the message delayed the message. But this contradicts the claim of the pearl Harbor attack group being under complete radio silence, since it would require perfect communication between the Fleet captains and the embassy.
4) the revisionist - "FDR let it happen". Which isn't recent but was written about almost as soon as the U.S. entered the war.
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