And, of course, he conveniently left out this last screenshot that includes how the conversation ended.

An account on instagram named Ancap_society__ submitted this paper as a rebuttal to my various post on the terrain model, ensuring me that I’ve bought into a “baseless conspiracy theory” and a “psyop”:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Fp3UOdN9an0ggzwG8_xwmxIG3OwaRSuF3l7vyJzaDTY/edit?usp=sharing

Do these people really think we’ve formed our perspective overnight, on a whim, without consideration for the very same germ-based arguments we’d previously believed? It sure seems like it. It’s so strange.

You guys should read this paper. You’ll get a kick out of it.

Chris Sky’s recent video.

The reason I’m even entertaining this is because Chris has a very large following and is bringing this conversation to his followers (and of course, while doing so, completely misrepresenting our positions/arguments). It’s a great opportunity to educate. Should I make a response video? Vote below.

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Anyone with half a brain can figure out why debating hypotheticals doesn’t prove/disprove anything in reality.

Debating a hypothetical is designed to ensure victory for the one who created the hypothetical story. I’m not disputing that what was presented contains a scenario that people have experienced (multiple people in the same space experiencing symptoms)— that’s not the issue. This issue is that there is no reference material regarding several pertinent details for us to refer back to:

1. How did doctor diagnose the pox?Where is the reference material to refer to for the test? Had other kids in the area experienced this phenomenon? Adults?
2. Do the children at the pox party all go to the same school? Different schools? Do they live amongst the same general neighborhood (ergo, same environment)?
3. Do they all eat school lunch?
4. The 3 that didn’t get pox symptoms, did they eat school lunch or come to school with their own?
5. Do they all get tested by the same doctor, or different doctors?
6. Does the doctor write the diagnosis on the lab sheet being submitted to the lab for the ‘antibody’ test? Did any of them receive antibody test prior to their diagnosis?
7. Did they all receive neonatal Vaccinations?

Any *real world* example will give us documentation, a time, a place, for which we can address the other pertinent factors at play— which is why I’ve repeatedly stated that I would gladly debate Chris Sky, live, using a well documented, real world example of a “viral” outbreak. He is welcome to present any well documented, real world example he chooses. He won’t do this, though, because Chris does not understand the problems with methods, assays, nor any other “evidence” regarding virology.

It is already crystal clear that Chris doesn’t have a clue what he’s talking about and relies on the ignorance of his following to ensure he can claim “victory.” He’s already blocked several other people who’ve exposed that he was using ChatGPT to develop his arguments (and in one example ChatGPT messed up and wrote information on both chickenpox and rabies at the same time), and Chris believes that SARS-Cov-2 doesn’t exist, but believes other viruses do, failing to realize that virologists use the exact same methods to determine both existence and pathogenicity for all viruses. Again, this just shows his lack of knowledge on the topic.

We know Chris will not take me up on debating a real world example because he cannot actually defend his perspective and the corresponding evidence. And we know that— again, irrespective of whether I entertain Chris’s hypothetical— he will claim “victory” and demand that I submit evidence to back up my counter-explanation when he has not submitted any evidence for his hypothetical.

My response to David Whitehead asking for a better explanation for what causes chickenpox:

David, I know you’re smart so I know you’ll understand this. Zero people are denying your experience.

Your *effects* are real. The alleged cause is unproven.

Pointing to symptoms, even when “contagious” as proof of a virus is an affirming the consequent logical fallacy.

In order to say that X exists and causes/does Y, you first need proof of X, and you need to directly observe X causing Y. Never in history has a virus been shown to exist in nature, in the fluids or tissue of a sick person. I’m happy to expand upon this point, just ask for clarification.

Without even discussing whether X (a “virus”) exists, we can discuss one layer up: there are countless experimental attempts to show disease is spread via the fluids of a sick person and all of them failed. Refer to this thread (https://x.com/jamieaa_again/status/1632750105966043139?s=46) refer to viroliegy.com, or theendofcovid.com. These experimental attempts even include exposing various people to fluids from chickenpox pustules. No one got the symptoms.

So at this point it’s back to the drawing board, attempting to figure out what does cause “Y”, in your case, the symptoms known as chickenpox. And that is a fun, creative pursuit with countless explanations— many of which haven’t been explored thoroughly because we’ve been hyper focused on this unproven paradigm.

And, because the primary focus has unfortunately been on this totally unproven paradigm (and I say that with emphasis— again, there is zero empirical evidence that viruses exist, or that fluids from a sick person cause illness/contain illness causing organisms— as always, happy to expand on this point and I created an entire educational series on it theendofcovid.com), other plausible explanations within this context have not been adequately explored.

With that being said, with respect to shared symptoms of illness— even ones that appear to be contagious (for the sake of clarification of the point, I am not denying your “contagious” experience), we must know shared environmental factors, shared nutritional issues, etc., etc.

After we’ve ruled out any plausible shared physical co-factors, we can then explore the metaphysical things at play. Shared emotional trauma (highly suggest looking into German New Medicine for how specific physical symptoms manifest related to specific emotional issues); bio-resonance (we all have a measurable and observable electromagnetic field surrounding our bodies); 4th phase water (see the work of Masaru Emoto, Gilbert Ling, Gerald Pollack, Veda Austin to see how water interacts based on both physical and energetic stimuli, and how bodies of water communicate with each other); some other mechanism of action we’ve yet to discover, again, because we’ve been so myopically focused on this unproven paradigm.

One of the main problems with the modern, mainstream scientific community is that it's rooted deeply in materialism.

When a physical cause cannot be found to explain an observed natural phenomenon, the scientific community will pin it on unproven theoretical particles that are never directly observed, but only assumed to exist through absurdly pseudoscientific and illogical indirect methods. And, as evidence for these unproven particles, they supply ridiculous simulations and models. Many of these phenomena are likely explained via non-physical means, but because of the tunnel-vision on materialism, these other possibilities aren't adequately explored.

Two Chickens With One Stone - Alec Zeck and Mike Stone respond to Chris Sky

If you’re on Twitter, would really appreciate some help retweeting this! https://x.com/alec_zeck/status/1731894087920337185?s=46

A study that I conducted to determine whether disease is caused by germs, or the terrain of the body.

This clip is from a longer video essay called “Viruses, Contagion, & Butterscotch Pudding,” which is available at dontslapsnooze.net – as well as Rumble and YouTube (for now).

@Alec_Zeck & I responded to @chrissaccoccia1 "viral" theory challenge where he falsely claimed that no one on our side was responding. Chris has our response, & he says that it is too long & that he won't watch.

I've lost count of the excuses, Chris. What number is this now?

https://rumble.com/v3zrcod-two-chickens-with-one-stone-mike-stone-and-alec-zeck-respond-to-chris-sky.html Rumble link for Two Chickens With One Stone

An End to Upside Down Medicine with Mark Gober

In this episode, I sit down with Mark Gober to discuss his recent book, An End to Upside Down Medicine.

Mark Gober is the author of “An End to Upside Down Thinking” (2018), which won the IPPY award for best science book of the year. He is also the author of “An End to Upside Down Living” (2020), “An End to Upside Down Liberty” (2021), “An End to Upside Down Contact” (2022), “An End to the Upside Down Reset” (2023), and “An End to Upside Down Medicine” (2023); and he is the host of the podcast “Where Is My Mind?” (2019). Additionally, he serves on the Board of the Institute of Noetic Sciences and the School of Wholeness and Enlightenment.

For more on Mark and to purchase Mark’s books– including the book discussed in this episode, visit markgober.com

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