Let me give you an example.

Spot price 10,000
1. Midcap atm 10k ce 20 rs and 10k pe 20 rs
Time - 9:30
Market moves up 20 points in morning otm 1 ce from 15 rs goes up to 20 rs ( up 30% )

Pe on put side of 10k will not decay to 10 rs as it still has 6 hours still for expiry ( 50% decay will not happen in morning due to time value ) it will still trade at 15 16 rs ( down 20% from entry) if market again moves down 0.30% or even 0.2% in 1 candle the puts will again inflate to 20 rs -25 rs hitting move sl to cost or original sl

So case 1 in morning volatility Ce stoploss , pe stoploss both hit near Atm.

Case 2 :
Assume same situation happens at 1.30 pm
Spot 10k
Atm
Ce : 10 rs
Pe: 10 rs

Market moves up 0.2%
Otm 1 moves from 7 rs Ce goes 10 rs
10k Pe will now go from 10 to 4-5rs ( 50% decay as for expiry its only 2 hours left ) so to hit stoploss market has to move much more in case of Atm trading .

Case 3 : at 1:30
Trading 4 rs - 5rs options in midcap .

If market doesn't moves you make entire money
If market moves 1 direction you lose on side and make some breakeven money .

If market moves up and goes down you still be able to make money due to rentry ( eventually otm will have to go to 0 , so even if movement doesn't come rentry will trigger due to premiums decrease ) you still will be able to make money or lose some amount depending on situation.
In afternoon you can lose money not due to gamma , but due to M or W movement in small time which will trigger multiple stoplosses .

In all day expiry regime , its better to avoid ATMs and rather trade far otms to avoid getting caught In spikes or reversal
Remember we have 5 days expiry in a week . So our target should not be 1% in day rather control risk , to lose small and make small small money.

Why re execute strategies face a lot of slippages in live market ?

Ce 100 rs
Pe 100 rs

Backtest entry 100 stoploss 20% 120 rs
Live entry 99 stoploss 20% 119

Option price moved up stoploss
Case 1:
Stoploss hit at 9:34:52
Re execute *May* happen at 935 if price crossed 120
Backtest and live match in this case

Case 2
Reex may happen at 9:36 due to delay in order management system ( have faced it and talked to quantiply Technically)
Sometimes algo requires 5 to 8 sec in order to fetch exit price so it will be assume stoploss hit at 935 ( 8 sec delay ) and hence reexute your leg at 936 . Backtest will reex at 935 causing entry Price difference and stoploss difference .
This is technically not solvable as per quantiply in case of delay .

Case 3 : price reaches 119.9
Live reex hoga Backtest me rex time will change as price didn't touch 120 . If price crosses 120 at 10:30 then in backtest it will reexecute the leg at 10:30 .

So in live market re execute will not match if entry Price is not as same as backtest due to change in stoploss , backtest will change .

Is it only me or all traders have Finnifty Sensex and Midcap doing better than Nifty and Bnf .

My bnf has - returns in last 3 months .
Sensex has highest.
I'm worried that as these are not mature indexes hence the returns are better ?
Your views ?

What was your March % gains ?
Profit or loss ?

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Fucked Up in Sensex

overall managed to close in green even after facing insane slippages

Even hedges will not save in such scenarios

These spikes are not going to go , it will become more frequent from now on !
Only option is to reduce position size and trade with lesser portion of your capital and Pray to god

Do you feel all day expiry regime reduced you returns or improved your returns ?

I have realised Bankex and Midcap are not tradeable index
Backtest may show great profits , the slippages are insane!
Better late then never , just reduced it to 10% .

How has been your experience ?

Even tho bnf and fnf sideways , couldnt realise much profit , still at breakeven

Have been heavily affected due to slippages .
1. Prices not on charts but limit orders with broker being executed literally 10-20% or even 50% in sensex above from the price visible on charts
(Example : Stoploss is 100 chart show highs of 80 85 but limit orders getting filled )
2. If we don't use sl at broker then sensex and midcap gamma moves are enough to destroy your trading capital .
3. Stoploss slippages where stops are getting executed 5-10% higher even in limit order with broker .
( example stoploss is 100 , exiting at 104 107 etc )
4. The profitability of my systems have fallen by 40-50% ( ik too much ) where if backtest shows 10k profit, I'm getting 5k .
5. Tried 1dte or only Bnf all days but doesn't seem to work and 0dte is still the best even if slippages are huge.
6. Also tried trading near ATMs wider
stoploss in that case the Drawdown of those systems is huge and personally think not scalable

How have you managed to tackle this ?

Algo traders how many strategies do you trade for 0Ddte everyday ?
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Again screwed in Nifty Move