Starship Conveyor Flight System
Recently I've been trying to gain some insight into all we've heard about SpaceX plans for orbital refueling including NASA's endorsement of them for HLS Starship. Many pundits claim SpaceX will require enormous numbers of tanker flights to pull this off - but it's possible they don't have all the information...SpaceX are currently building three orbital launch sites for Starship, one on dry land at Boca Chica, Texas and another two on floating platforms, i.e. Phobos and Deimos. If the Super Heavy booster can land downrange on these platforms, that should save a significant amount of propellant (compared to returning booster to original launch site), which would allow them to haul the maximum payload possible to space, without expending the booster.If we do an ocean landing, the performance hit is actually quite small at maybe in the order of 15%. If we do a return to launch site landing, it's probably double that, it's more like a 30% hit (i.e., 30% of payload lost). ~ Elon MuskHence it’s possible SpaceX will launch from Boca Chica then land the booster downrange on Deimos, which is currently docked at Brownsville, Texas. This should allow them to launch a full stack again from Deimos and land the booster downrange on Phobos (which has already been towed from Port of Galveston, Texas to Pascagoula, Mississippi). Then the long journeyed booster could fly retrograde back to Boca Chica, ready to commence this conveyor launch process again.Elon suggests they will need to launch four tankers to refuel each Mars Starship in orbit, and this ratio will likely increase for lunar excursions, where more propellant is needed for propulsive landing. Hence a tanker could depart with a full load of propellant from Boca Chica, offload at an orbital fuel depot then land at the first link in the chain i.e. Deimos. After launching again with a full propellant load from Deimos, the tanker could visit the same fuel depot then return to Boca Chica. Overall this procedure should reduce the number of tanker flights required to fill the depot because significantly more propellant could be delivered to orbit with each tanker flight, due to a more ergonomic use of infrastructure (compared to operating from a single launch site).(How will Starships be transported to the floating platform?) They will fly there from our launch site. ~ Elon Musk ~ Elon MuskFortunately SpaceX intend to manufacture methalox propellant onboard these floating platforms, so essentially they will produce the payload required for these tanker flights in-situ. That should allow the comparatively small number of cargo and crew Starships to depart from Boca Chica, thus retaining the floating platforms for more numerous tanker flights.This improved launch efficiency might explain the rather conservative estimate for the number of tanker flights required for each Mars mission, and the feasibility of sustainable moon operations. Elon suggests it should only take 5 or 6 tankers to fully refuel Starship, which implies each tanker could deliver ~220mt to orbit, given Starship’s maximum propellant capacity of 1,200mt.Eventually this chain of launch sites might stretch all the way to the Cape to further increase launch efficiency. No doubt the FAA would want to see plenty of precision landings before they allow Starship or Super Heavy to descend over Florida - although if anyone can do it it’s SpaceX.Gotta love a joined up space effort!
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Recently I've been trying to gain some insight into all we've heard about SpaceX plans for orbital refueling including NASA's endorsement of them for HLS Starship. Many pundits claim SpaceX will require enormous numbers of tanker flights to pull this off - but it's possible they don't have all the information...SpaceX are currently building three orbital launch sites for Starship, one on dry land at Boca Chica, Texas and another two on floating platforms, i.e. Phobos and Deimos. If the Super Heavy booster can land downrange on these platforms, that should save a significant amount of propellant (compared to returning booster to original launch site), which would allow them to haul the maximum payload possible to space, without expending the booster.If we do an ocean landing, the performance hit is actually quite small at maybe in the order of 15%. If we do a return to launch site landing, it's probably double that, it's more like a 30% hit (i.e., 30% of payload lost). ~ Elon MuskHence it’s possible SpaceX will launch from Boca Chica then land the booster downrange on Deimos, which is currently docked at Brownsville, Texas. This should allow them to launch a full stack again from Deimos and land the booster downrange on Phobos (which has already been towed from Port of Galveston, Texas to Pascagoula, Mississippi). Then the long journeyed booster could fly retrograde back to Boca Chica, ready to commence this conveyor launch process again.Elon suggests they will need to launch four tankers to refuel each Mars Starship in orbit, and this ratio will likely increase for lunar excursions, where more propellant is needed for propulsive landing. Hence a tanker could depart with a full load of propellant from Boca Chica, offload at an orbital fuel depot then land at the first link in the chain i.e. Deimos. After launching again with a full propellant load from Deimos, the tanker could visit the same fuel depot then return to Boca Chica. Overall this procedure should reduce the number of tanker flights required to fill the depot because significantly more propellant could be delivered to orbit with each tanker flight, due to a more ergonomic use of infrastructure (compared to operating from a single launch site).(How will Starships be transported to the floating platform?) They will fly there from our launch site. ~ Elon Musk ~ Elon MuskFortunately SpaceX intend to manufacture methalox propellant onboard these floating platforms, so essentially they will produce the payload required for these tanker flights in-situ. That should allow the comparatively small number of cargo and crew Starships to depart from Boca Chica, thus retaining the floating platforms for more numerous tanker flights.This improved launch efficiency might explain the rather conservative estimate for the number of tanker flights required for each Mars mission, and the feasibility of sustainable moon operations. Elon suggests it should only take 5 or 6 tankers to fully refuel Starship, which implies each tanker could deliver ~220mt to orbit, given Starship’s maximum propellant capacity of 1,200mt.Eventually this chain of launch sites might stretch all the way to the Cape to further increase launch efficiency. No doubt the FAA would want to see plenty of precision landings before they allow Starship or Super Heavy to descend over Florida - although if anyone can do it it’s SpaceX.Gotta love a joined up space effort!
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The Profound Potential of Elon Musk’s New Rocket: An aerospace engineer explains why SpaceX’s Starship will change everything.
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We are the SpaceX software team, ask us anything!
We're a few of the people on SpaceX’s software team, and on Saturday, May 15 at 12:00 p.m. PT we’ll be here to answer your questions about some of the fun projects we’ve worked on this past year including:
• Designing Starlink’s scalable telemetry system storing millions of points per second
• Updating the software on our orbiting Starlink satellites (the largest constellation in space!)
• Designing software for the Starlink space lasers terminals for high-speed data transmission
• Developing software to support our first all civilian mission (Inspiration4)
• Completing our first operational Crew Dragon mission (Crew-1)
• Designing the onboard user interfaces for astronauts
• Rapid iteration of Starship’s flight software and user interface
We are:
• Jarrett Farnitano – I work on Dragon vehicle software including the crew displays
•Kristine Huang – I lead application software for Starlink constellation
• Jeanette Miranda – I develop firmware for lasercom
• Asher Dunn - I lead Starship software
• Natalie Morris - I lead software test infrastructure for satellites
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We're a few of the people on SpaceX’s software team, and on Saturday, May 15 at 12:00 p.m. PT we’ll be here to answer your questions about some of the fun projects we’ve worked on this past year including:
• Designing Starlink’s scalable telemetry system storing millions of points per second
• Updating the software on our orbiting Starlink satellites (the largest constellation in space!)
• Designing software for the Starlink space lasers terminals for high-speed data transmission
• Developing software to support our first all civilian mission (Inspiration4)
• Completing our first operational Crew Dragon mission (Crew-1)
• Designing the onboard user interfaces for astronauts
• Rapid iteration of Starship’s flight software and user interface
We are:
• Jarrett Farnitano – I work on Dragon vehicle software including the crew displays
•Kristine Huang – I lead application software for Starlink constellation
• Jeanette Miranda – I develop firmware for lasercom
• Asher Dunn - I lead Starship software
• Natalie Morris - I lead software test infrastructure for satellites
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We are the SpaceX software team, ask us anything!
We're a few of the people on SpaceX’s software team, and on Saturday, May 15 at 12:00 p.m. PT we’ll be here to answer your questions about some of...
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[SpaceX on Twitter] Targeting Saturday, May 15 at 6:54 p.m. EDT for launch of the next Starlink mission from Florida; team is keeping an eye on recovery weather conditions
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[SpaceX on Twitter] Targeting Saturday, May 15 at 6:54 p.m. EDT...
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Starbase Production Diagram - 15th May 2021 - Brendan on Twitter
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Starbase Production Diagram - 15th May 2021
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New Starbase sign at the South Texas production facility
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Starbase has landed 🤩
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Crowds watch from Playalinda Beach as Falcon 9 launches 54 Starlink satellites and two rideshare payloads this evening
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Liftoff!
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Falcon 9’s first stage has landed on the Of Course I Still Love You droneship!
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Deployment of 52 Starlink satellites confirmed
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Starbase is illuminated. Really special moment here, we are in awe.
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A 30-second “laser beam” exposure of today’s Starlink-26/rideshare launch
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Dragon XL contract supplemental agreement: crew compartment and waste management study
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Testing software so it's reliable enough for space - Stack Overflow Blog
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Starship SN15 patiently awaits a decision – The Road to Orbit
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Starship SN15 patiently awaits a decision - The Road to Orbit - NASASpaceFlight.com
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Building the software that helps build SpaceX - Stack Overflow Blog
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Building the software that helps build SpaceX
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Kayla Barron selected as fourth member of Crew-3
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Kayla Barron Joins NASA’s SpaceX Crew-3 Mission to Space Station
NASA has assigned Kayla Barron to serve as a mission specialist for the agency’s SpaceX Crew-3 mission to the International Space Station, which is targeted to launch as early as Oct. 23.
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Tyvak satellite on SpaceX rideshare mission carries tiny space telescope - SpaceNews
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Tyvak satellite on SpaceX rideshare mission carries tiny space telescope
The Tyvak-0130 rideshare payload that flew to orbit May 15 on a SpaceX Falcon 9 carries a miniature space telescope for possible commercial use.
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Starship SN15 as seen from 1600m msl today! 🚀
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