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God is a *knowable mystery. We will never exhaust* His essence-but we will *truly behold and know it* in heaven. Even in this life, we know Him really, though imperfectly
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*Orthodox (Palamite) Theology:
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β 1). *No one-NOT EVEN IN HEAVEN-can ever know or see God's Essence.*
β 2). All interaction with God is through His energies, not His essence.
β 3). Deification (*theosis*) is union with the *uncreated energies, but not with the essence* of God.
β 4). This is used to preserve God's *transcendence and unknowability, but it risks positing metaphysical division* within God.
β β RESULT βΌοΈ:
God remains forever hidden in His essence, even for the saints in glory. The beatific vision, as understood in Catholicism, is denied. Saints experience the light of Tabor, not the essence of God.
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*Orthodox (Palamite) Theology:
God's Essence Is Absolutely Unknowable-Now and Forever*
Following *St. Gregory Palamas* (14th c.), Eastern Orthodoxy developed a *real distinction* between:
- God's *essence* (*ousia*) utterly and eternally *unknowable*
- God's *energies* (*energeiai*) - *uncreated operations* by which God manifests Himself to creation
### βΌοΈ Key Points: ππ
β 1). *No one-NOT EVEN IN HEAVEN-can ever know or see God's Essence.*
β 2). All interaction with God is through His energies, not His essence.
β 3). Deification (*theosis*) is union with the *uncreated energies, but not with the essence* of God.
β 4). This is used to preserve God's *transcendence and unknowability, but it risks positing metaphysical division* within God.
β β RESULT βΌοΈ:
God remains forever hidden in His essence, even for the saints in glory. The beatific vision, as understood in Catholicism, is denied. Saints experience the light of Tabor, not the essence of God.
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Why This Matters:
- Catholicism teaches a God who is *intimately knowable, even in His mystery-who lifts us into direct communion* with His very Being.
-whereas The Orthodox Palamite view *locks God away* behind an eternal metaphysical veil. Theosis becomes interaction with what God does, but not union with who God is.
That's not the God of Moses, who said "I AM"*, or of Christ, who said *"Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God."
> + "This is eternal life: that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent." - John 17:3
> *"For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part; THEN I SHALL KNOW FULLY, even as I am fully known."*
> - *1 Corinthians 13:12 (RSV-CE)*
### + What This Implies:
"Now... dimly": In this life, our knowledge of God is limited, mediated by faith, symbols, and grace.
"Then... face to face": In glory, we will behold God directly, not merely His effects or energies.
- *"I shall know fully": Paul isn't saying he'll become omniscient, but that his knowledge of God Himself* will be complete in its mode, appropriate to a creature united to God by grace.
This verse *flatly contradicts the Palamite idea that God's essence is forever unknowable even in eternity. Paul speaks of *a future state* where the veil is removed and the soul sees God Himself-face to face.
> As St. John says: *"We shall see Him as He is."* *1 John 3:2*
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The Hail Mary is actually Biblicalπ.
The entire teachings of the church has foundation in scripture.
The entire teachings of the church has foundation in scripture.
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HOW TO RESPOND TO PROTESTANTS WHEN THEY SAY "CALL NO MAN FATHER ?"
Protestants Attack us When we call priests "father" . They will point to Matthew 23:9, where Jesus says, "Call no man your father on earth, for you have one Father, who is in heaven."
However, this directive is not meant tobe taken literally in all contexts. Jesus Often used Hyperbole , and this is one of those many Instances. βHyperbole,β For those who don't know βis an intentional exaggeration for emphasis or effect. Jesus often used it in the Gospels. In fact even in The same Gospel of Matthew in 18:21-22...
β γIn the Bible, the term "father" is used in various ways, including spiritual and respectful contexts. For instance, Joseph is described as a "father to Pharaoh" (Genesis 45:8), and Elisha calls Elijah "my father" (2 Kings 2:12). In the New Testament, Stephen refers to "our father Abraham" (Acts 7:2), and Paul speaks of "our father Isaac" (Romans 9:10). Thus, calling priests "father" is a sign of respect and spiritual fatherhood, not a contradiction of Jesus' teaching.
β γIncidentally, both Old and New Testaments associate priesthood with fatherhood (cf. Judges 17:10, 18:19, and 1 Corinthians 4:15), but in this case, Jesusβ command is not violated.
β γJesus is not forbidding us to call men βfathersβ who actually are suchβeither literally or spiritually. He is warning people against inaccurately attributing fatherhoodβor a particular kind or degree of fatherhoodβto those who do not have it.
As the apostolic example shows, some individuals genuinely do have a spiritual fatherhood, meaning that they can be referred to as spiritual fathers. What must not be done is to confuse their form of spiritual paternity with that of God. Ultimately, God is our supreme protector, provider, and instructor. Correspondingly, it is wrong to view any individual other than God as having these roles.
Protestants Attack us When we call priests "father" . They will point to Matthew 23:9, where Jesus says, "Call no man your father on earth, for you have one Father, who is in heaven."
However, this directive is not meant tobe taken literally in all contexts. Jesus Often used Hyperbole , and this is one of those many Instances. βHyperbole,β For those who don't know βis an intentional exaggeration for emphasis or effect. Jesus often used it in the Gospels. In fact even in The same Gospel of Matthew in 18:21-22...
He didnβt mean that we should only forgive our brother 539 times when he told us to forgive others seven times 77 times as in Matthew 18:21-22.β SUCH WOULD MEAN WE ARE TERRIBLE PEOPLE WHO KEEP COUNT OF EVERY PARDONED SIN .π
Christ used hyperbole often, for example when he declared, βIf your right eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and throw it away; it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body be thrown into hellβ (Matt. 5:29, cf. 18:9; Mark 9:47). Christ certainly did not intend this to be applied literally, for OTHERWISE ALL CHRISTIANS WOULD BE BLIND AMPUTEES ! (cf. 1 John 1:8; 1 Tim. 1:15).
β γIn the Bible, the term "father" is used in various ways, including spiritual and respectful contexts. For instance, Joseph is described as a "father to Pharaoh" (Genesis 45:8), and Elisha calls Elijah "my father" (2 Kings 2:12). In the New Testament, Stephen refers to "our father Abraham" (Acts 7:2), and Paul speaks of "our father Isaac" (Romans 9:10). Thus, calling priests "father" is a sign of respect and spiritual fatherhood, not a contradiction of Jesus' teaching.
β γIncidentally, both Old and New Testaments associate priesthood with fatherhood (cf. Judges 17:10, 18:19, and 1 Corinthians 4:15), but in this case, Jesusβ command is not violated.
β γJesus is not forbidding us to call men βfathersβ who actually are suchβeither literally or spiritually. He is warning people against inaccurately attributing fatherhoodβor a particular kind or degree of fatherhoodβto those who do not have it.
As the apostolic example shows, some individuals genuinely do have a spiritual fatherhood, meaning that they can be referred to as spiritual fathers. What must not be done is to confuse their form of spiritual paternity with that of God. Ultimately, God is our supreme protector, provider, and instructor. Correspondingly, it is wrong to view any individual other than God as having these roles.
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πΈWhereβs praying to saints in the Bible? Sirach 48:4-11, 2 Maccabees 15:12-15, Tobit 12:12
πΈWhereβs indulgences in the Bible? 2 Maccabees 12:42
πΈWhereβs purgatory in the Bible? 2 Maccabees 12:45
πΈWhere's the immaculate conception in the Bible? Wisdom 1:4
πΈWhereβs free will in the Bible? Sirach 15:11-20
πΈWhereβs indulgences in the Bible? 2 Maccabees 12:42
πΈWhereβs purgatory in the Bible? 2 Maccabees 12:45
πΈWhere's the immaculate conception in the Bible? Wisdom 1:4
πΈWhereβs free will in the Bible? Sirach 15:11-20
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EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS π»π¦
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Ladies and Gentlemen.... I am Proud to present to you the Latest Polemical Argument against the Eastern Orthodox Schismatics.
The Argument against the Kourbania Animal Sacrifice to the saints that the Greek Schismatics perform
The Argument against the Kourbania Animal Sacrifice to the saints that the Greek Schismatics perform
Random prots who don't know anything are Just resurfacing the Ancient heresies which our Holy Mother church had In the Past multiple times Refuted . We will refute them again .
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Hey, at least Satan isn't a Catholic
ProtKikes are at it as always