My immigration story
It’s the right time to write my immigration story.
I started thinking about leaving Russia in 2012. At first, it was just an idea, so I focused on improving my English – switching to English in computer games, software, films, TV shows, YouTube, podcasts, and so on. But mainly, games.
I doubted whether leaving was necessary. I spent hours talking to my friends about our visions for Russia’s future. Many of them are subscribed to the channel and may remember these talks. But each passing year in Russia only strengthened my desire to leave.
So, from 2012 to 2018, I was thinking, mentally preparing, and raising our son, who occupied all our free time for a few years after he was born.
1️⃣ In 2018, I finally started to act. I analysed all available options and identified five possible paths:
➖ Job in an international company. If I found a job in an international company’s Moscow office or worked with international clients, I could relocate through my job. I changed jobs during this period, and only applied to companies that required English.
➖ The US Diversity Visa Lottery. The chances were small (2% per attempt for a family, based on my calculations). But since applying only took 15 minutes, I applied every year - just in case.
➖ Finding a job abroad from RF. The chances were low for non-IT jobs, but not zero. I registered on all major job search platforms in English-speaking countries and looked for jobs there.
➖ Point-based visa. Some Western countries (CA, AU, NZ) have point-based immigration systems. You can check their immigration websites, calculate points based on your skills and experience, and if you have enough points, submit your application and wait to be selected. My wife and I were both engineers with proper education and 15-20 years of relevant experience, so we had enough points skill-wise. The only issue was my wife’s English, which was weaker than mine - which makes sense, as she didn’t play games. So, she focused on improving her English through more boring methods.
➖ Study visa. This was the most reliable option since it had a clear timeframe. However, it required extra money and time for studying. I wanted to avoid it, so I left it as a backup plan.
2️⃣ In 2022, after covid, it became clear that the first three options have not worked out - my job hasn’t led to relocation, we hadn’t won the DV Lottery, and I hadn’t found a job remotely from RF.
Point-based visa had progressed significantly - my wife had been studying English daily for years with great dedication, and we were eligible for a point-based visa. My English had also improved as I worked in a company with English-speaking management, international clients, and partial English communication. And I kept gaming.
3️⃣ February 2022 triggered action. I decided not to apply for the point-based visa since it could take anywhere from a few months to several years for an application to be selected. I wasn’t willing to wait that long. The study visa became our main option, as the fastest and most reliable path to immigration. Also, the day after the war started, I promised myself I wouldn't play games until I left Russia - just for extra motivation.
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It’s the right time to write my immigration story.
I started thinking about leaving Russia in 2012. At first, it was just an idea, so I focused on improving my English – switching to English in computer games, software, films, TV shows, YouTube, podcasts, and so on. But mainly, games.
I doubted whether leaving was necessary. I spent hours talking to my friends about our visions for Russia’s future. Many of them are subscribed to the channel and may remember these talks. But each passing year in Russia only strengthened my desire to leave.
So, from 2012 to 2018, I was thinking, mentally preparing, and raising our son, who occupied all our free time for a few years after he was born.
1️⃣ In 2018, I finally started to act. I analysed all available options and identified five possible paths:
➖ Job in an international company. If I found a job in an international company’s Moscow office or worked with international clients, I could relocate through my job. I changed jobs during this period, and only applied to companies that required English.
➖ The US Diversity Visa Lottery. The chances were small (2% per attempt for a family, based on my calculations). But since applying only took 15 minutes, I applied every year - just in case.
➖ Finding a job abroad from RF. The chances were low for non-IT jobs, but not zero. I registered on all major job search platforms in English-speaking countries and looked for jobs there.
➖ Point-based visa. Some Western countries (CA, AU, NZ) have point-based immigration systems. You can check their immigration websites, calculate points based on your skills and experience, and if you have enough points, submit your application and wait to be selected. My wife and I were both engineers with proper education and 15-20 years of relevant experience, so we had enough points skill-wise. The only issue was my wife’s English, which was weaker than mine - which makes sense, as she didn’t play games. So, she focused on improving her English through more boring methods.
➖ Study visa. This was the most reliable option since it had a clear timeframe. However, it required extra money and time for studying. I wanted to avoid it, so I left it as a backup plan.
2️⃣ In 2022, after covid, it became clear that the first three options have not worked out - my job hasn’t led to relocation, we hadn’t won the DV Lottery, and I hadn’t found a job remotely from RF.
Point-based visa had progressed significantly - my wife had been studying English daily for years with great dedication, and we were eligible for a point-based visa. My English had also improved as I worked in a company with English-speaking management, international clients, and partial English communication. And I kept gaming.
3️⃣ February 2022 triggered action. I decided not to apply for the point-based visa since it could take anywhere from a few months to several years for an application to be selected. I wasn’t willing to wait that long. The study visa became our main option, as the fastest and most reliable path to immigration. Also, the day after the war started, I promised myself I wouldn't play games until I left Russia - just for extra motivation.
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Was it hard?
As you may have noticed, I was quite well-prepared for immigration. I read a lot about it. I watched countless videos about possible problems - psychological, financial, cultural, etc.
Then, after choosing NZ, I researched everything about it, read all available information, and compiled a detailed list of useful notes (I can share it if you want, btw). I knew everything before coming - prices, stores, schools, suburbs, taxes, banks, mobile, internet, housing, etc. I had notes on everything.
On top of that, I’m quite an organised person. Managing many tasks at the same time, constantly dealing with a large flow of new information, and solving all kinds of random issues - that is basically my job.
Despite all this, immigration was the biggest challenge I’ve ever faced.
I’ll try to explain. The overall process, from gathering documents for the first visa to obtaining residence, took about three years, 90% of which was a constant flow of tasks to do. Every day.
The first set of tasks was related to visas - each one initially required tons of reading - starting from the basic INZ website, then the INZ “operational manual” for fine details, and then groups/forums for others’ experiences. After the reading, I prepared massive sets of documents for each of us for each visa: tests, notes, certificates, diplomas, statements, cover letters, photos, tickets, translations, forms, etc. I filled out our work histories so many times that I was able to recite the companies, roles, and dates like a poem from memory.
The second set is everything related to living - apartments, realtors, moving, cars, driver’s licences, insurances, bank accounts, tax numbers, transferring money, dealing with schools, buying homeware, etc. Basically, you need to set up a whole new life from scratch in a completely new environment. And do it fast while dealing with all the other tasks.
The third set is study (not all immigrants go this way, but it was the case for me). Here we go again - lectures, exams, assignments. There were about 10 exams in my one-year study and 20 assignments (20-30 pages each, with charts, pictures, calculations, citations from existing studies, etc.). I saw a few people of a similar age and skill level who didn’t manage the study and decided to leave just because of it.
And the fourth set is work - 50+ emails per day, calls, daily meetings, weekly updated budgets, time schedules, etc.
My wife, at the same time, took care of everything related to our son and the household, while also trying to be supportive – which matters a lot. Because if you start quarreling under all that stress, it only makes everything harder and could undermine the entire process. I’ve seen many videos from immigrants sharing this experience. Just so you know – the divorce rate during immigration is significantly higher than average.
It was also important to follow my standard routine - sport, diet, and sleep. Under stress, maintaining a routine helps in staying productive.
I had to do all four sets of tasks at the same time. Sometimes, I felt like a robot. I planned each day hour by hour and executed tasks like a machine, with no room for procrastination or rest. It was important for me to do whatever it took to reach my goal. Otherwise, I would have blamed myself if I failed. Of course, there was always a chance of failure because of things I couldn’t control. But that’s just luck. The important thing was doing everything I could.
This incredibly stressful state lasted almost the entire three years, from the moment I started gathering documents for the first visa right through to receiving residency.
I’m writing this to add some reality to the overall positive mood of this channel. Was it hard to do? Yes, it fucking was.
(Russian)
As you may have noticed, I was quite well-prepared for immigration. I read a lot about it. I watched countless videos about possible problems - psychological, financial, cultural, etc.
Then, after choosing NZ, I researched everything about it, read all available information, and compiled a detailed list of useful notes (I can share it if you want, btw). I knew everything before coming - prices, stores, schools, suburbs, taxes, banks, mobile, internet, housing, etc. I had notes on everything.
On top of that, I’m quite an organised person. Managing many tasks at the same time, constantly dealing with a large flow of new information, and solving all kinds of random issues - that is basically my job.
Despite all this, immigration was the biggest challenge I’ve ever faced.
I’ll try to explain. The overall process, from gathering documents for the first visa to obtaining residence, took about three years, 90% of which was a constant flow of tasks to do. Every day.
The first set of tasks was related to visas - each one initially required tons of reading - starting from the basic INZ website, then the INZ “operational manual” for fine details, and then groups/forums for others’ experiences. After the reading, I prepared massive sets of documents for each of us for each visa: tests, notes, certificates, diplomas, statements, cover letters, photos, tickets, translations, forms, etc. I filled out our work histories so many times that I was able to recite the companies, roles, and dates like a poem from memory.
The second set is everything related to living - apartments, realtors, moving, cars, driver’s licences, insurances, bank accounts, tax numbers, transferring money, dealing with schools, buying homeware, etc. Basically, you need to set up a whole new life from scratch in a completely new environment. And do it fast while dealing with all the other tasks.
The third set is study (not all immigrants go this way, but it was the case for me). Here we go again - lectures, exams, assignments. There were about 10 exams in my one-year study and 20 assignments (20-30 pages each, with charts, pictures, calculations, citations from existing studies, etc.). I saw a few people of a similar age and skill level who didn’t manage the study and decided to leave just because of it.
And the fourth set is work - 50+ emails per day, calls, daily meetings, weekly updated budgets, time schedules, etc.
My wife, at the same time, took care of everything related to our son and the household, while also trying to be supportive – which matters a lot. Because if you start quarreling under all that stress, it only makes everything harder and could undermine the entire process. I’ve seen many videos from immigrants sharing this experience. Just so you know – the divorce rate during immigration is significantly higher than average.
It was also important to follow my standard routine - sport, diet, and sleep. Under stress, maintaining a routine helps in staying productive.
I had to do all four sets of tasks at the same time. Sometimes, I felt like a robot. I planned each day hour by hour and executed tasks like a machine, with no room for procrastination or rest. It was important for me to do whatever it took to reach my goal. Otherwise, I would have blamed myself if I failed. Of course, there was always a chance of failure because of things I couldn’t control. But that’s just luck. The important thing was doing everything I could.
This incredibly stressful state lasted almost the entire three years, from the moment I started gathering documents for the first visa right through to receiving residency.
I’m writing this to add some reality to the overall positive mood of this channel. Was it hard to do? Yes, it fucking was.
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Что я понял про русских после переезда
Отличия в рабочей культуре между РФ и НЗ, из которых следуют два вывода - хороший и плохой.
MP3-версия - https://t.me/OutsidersInsight/120
Ссылки на упомянутые видео:
Про совещания: https://youtu.be/Mh7mx3d1Uf0
Про доверие в обществе: https://youtu.be/GbZH6AVouAg…
MP3-версия - https://t.me/OutsidersInsight/120
Ссылки на упомянутые видео:
Про совещания: https://youtu.be/Mh7mx3d1Uf0
Про доверие в обществе: https://youtu.be/GbZH6AVouAg…
A video version of the post on the saddest thing about Russians.
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NZ notes by Outsider.pdf
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As promised in the comments, here are my notes with the information I prepared for myself before coming to NZ. They were written in 2023, so some details may be outdated, but overall, they should still be relevant.
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Breaking news
Our neighbour, a lovely Kiwi lady, grows feijoas, grapefruits, guavas, and all sorts of other fruits and herbs - and she generously shares them with the neighbours when they're in season. The first picture shows strawberry guavas she gave us today.
Another lovely Kiwi lady, our other neighbour, grows "Papa Meilland" roses, a special variety of rose included in the Rose Hall of Fame for its strong and pleasing fragrance. The second picture shows the roses, which are growing right outside our bedroom window.
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Our neighbour, a lovely Kiwi lady, grows feijoas, grapefruits, guavas, and all sorts of other fruits and herbs - and she generously shares them with the neighbours when they're in season. The first picture shows strawberry guavas she gave us today.
Another lovely Kiwi lady, our other neighbour, grows "Papa Meilland" roses, a special variety of rose included in the Rose Hall of Fame for its strong and pleasing fragrance. The second picture shows the roses, which are growing right outside our bedroom window.
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Nanny state
This is a set some in NZ use to make cigarettes - pieces of paper, filters, tobacco, and the rolling device. In NZ, due to government involvement in the market, one pack of cigarettes costs ~$40, while a bag of tobacco is ~$80 which is roughly equal in size to four packs. So the difference is obvious.
As I said in the video about the downsides of NZ, this is an example of a nanny state. Of course, people will find ways around it - they will roll cigarettes, do drugs, drink, sniff glue, eat tons of sugar, or whatever else. Those who want to destroy their bodies will do so no matter what. I don’t like smoking and don’t smoke, but people who do should have the right to do it. They are adults. If they can pay taxes, vote, and drive, they should also be able to make decisions about their own bodies - without a nanny-official taking care of them while being paid with their own taxes.
Do you disagree? I know many of you do. But just think about it...
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This is a set some in NZ use to make cigarettes - pieces of paper, filters, tobacco, and the rolling device. In NZ, due to government involvement in the market, one pack of cigarettes costs ~$40, while a bag of tobacco is ~$80 which is roughly equal in size to four packs. So the difference is obvious.
As I said in the video about the downsides of NZ, this is an example of a nanny state. Of course, people will find ways around it - they will roll cigarettes, do drugs, drink, sniff glue, eat tons of sugar, or whatever else. Those who want to destroy their bodies will do so no matter what. I don’t like smoking and don’t smoke, but people who do should have the right to do it. They are adults. If they can pay taxes, vote, and drive, they should also be able to make decisions about their own bodies - without a nanny-official taking care of them while being paid with their own taxes.
Do you disagree? I know many of you do. But just think about it...
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Seasons
Two pictures of the same place - one in summer (December), the other in autumn (March). I think I’ll head there in winter too, just to see what’s different.
Not snow and ice, but maybe something else.
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Two pictures of the same place - one in summer (December), the other in autumn (March). I think I’ll head there in winter too, just to see what’s different.
Not snow and ice, but maybe something else.
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How I study English
I’ve had almost no formal English education - just a bit at school (a standard non-English one) and a couple of months at university. These can pretty much be discounted. The main ways I studied English were:
Games. I’ve been playing them since I was a kid, and most were in English. Back then, there weren’t many Russian versions, so I just played the English ones - I pressed all the buttons and trying to figure out what they meant from the context. I finished Dune 2 this way, without knowing a word in English.
Later, some games got Russian versions, but they were often buggy, so I kept playing in English with dictionaries. I didn’t intend to learn the language via gaming - it just soaked in naturally. I gradually developed a feel for the language - I didn’t know grammar or tenses, but I could tell when something sounded right or wrong. I’m sure this came from gaming.
YouTube channels and podcasts. I like listening to something in the background while cooking, exercising, driving, or eating. It’s usually YouTube (in MP3) or podcasts. So, when I decided to focus on studying English, I found the topics I enjoy (tech, games, politics, etc) in English and replaced the Russian sources. The list of channels I watch and podcasts I listen to is here.
Movies, TV shows, stand-ups, books. The same here. I watch movies and TV shows with English subtitles. English-speaking stand-ups are way better than Russian, so it’s an obvious choice. Same goes for books - I searched lists of “page turners” and picked the most addictive books only. The idea is the same as with games - get hooked on them and let the book pull me through the story effortlessly.
A note about reading - if I understand the general idea, I don’t care about single unknown words. There is no need to understand 100% of what you read. It’s always better to not slow yourself down and read further. The unknown words will soak in automatically and you will get their meaning with time from the context.
Software. At some point, I also switched my phone, car, and computers to English. I translated all the contacts in my phone to English so I could use Siri commands in English as well. All my software - like Windows, AutoCAD, MS Office, and so on - is set to English. We see hundreds, sometimes thousands, of commands, menus, settings, and phrases on our computers every day.
Job. Eventually, I decided to improve my grammar, tenses, and so on. I went through English Grammar in Use (Murphy) a couple of times. This, along with everything else, helped me get a job at a Moscow-based company with English-speaking management. I worked there for a few years, using English in both speaking and writing. It really helped improve my speaking skills.
As a result, before coming to New Zealand, I scored 89 out of 90 on the PTE-A. But honestly, that doesn’t say much about my actual level. My English is enough to live and work, but I’m still far from where I want to be. I make a lot of mistakes, I have a strong accent, and I don’t always catch every English word.
So I’m still studying English. I pick more text-heavy games, read books, and cut out about 90% of Russian content from what I read and watch - just kept a couple to stay up to date with politics and memes. This channel is also part of how I study English - I train my writing here. I always write in English first, and then translate into Russian.
(Russian)
I’ve had almost no formal English education - just a bit at school (a standard non-English one) and a couple of months at university. These can pretty much be discounted. The main ways I studied English were:
Games. I’ve been playing them since I was a kid, and most were in English. Back then, there weren’t many Russian versions, so I just played the English ones - I pressed all the buttons and trying to figure out what they meant from the context. I finished Dune 2 this way, without knowing a word in English.
Later, some games got Russian versions, but they were often buggy, so I kept playing in English with dictionaries. I didn’t intend to learn the language via gaming - it just soaked in naturally. I gradually developed a feel for the language - I didn’t know grammar or tenses, but I could tell when something sounded right or wrong. I’m sure this came from gaming.
YouTube channels and podcasts. I like listening to something in the background while cooking, exercising, driving, or eating. It’s usually YouTube (in MP3) or podcasts. So, when I decided to focus on studying English, I found the topics I enjoy (tech, games, politics, etc) in English and replaced the Russian sources. The list of channels I watch and podcasts I listen to is here.
Movies, TV shows, stand-ups, books. The same here. I watch movies and TV shows with English subtitles. English-speaking stand-ups are way better than Russian, so it’s an obvious choice. Same goes for books - I searched lists of “page turners” and picked the most addictive books only. The idea is the same as with games - get hooked on them and let the book pull me through the story effortlessly.
A note about reading - if I understand the general idea, I don’t care about single unknown words. There is no need to understand 100% of what you read. It’s always better to not slow yourself down and read further. The unknown words will soak in automatically and you will get their meaning with time from the context.
Software. At some point, I also switched my phone, car, and computers to English. I translated all the contacts in my phone to English so I could use Siri commands in English as well. All my software - like Windows, AutoCAD, MS Office, and so on - is set to English. We see hundreds, sometimes thousands, of commands, menus, settings, and phrases on our computers every day.
Job. Eventually, I decided to improve my grammar, tenses, and so on. I went through English Grammar in Use (Murphy) a couple of times. This, along with everything else, helped me get a job at a Moscow-based company with English-speaking management. I worked there for a few years, using English in both speaking and writing. It really helped improve my speaking skills.
As a result, before coming to New Zealand, I scored 89 out of 90 on the PTE-A. But honestly, that doesn’t say much about my actual level. My English is enough to live and work, but I’m still far from where I want to be. I make a lot of mistakes, I have a strong accent, and I don’t always catch every English word.
So I’m still studying English. I pick more text-heavy games, read books, and cut out about 90% of Russian content from what I read and watch - just kept a couple to stay up to date with politics and memes. This channel is also part of how I study English - I train my writing here. I always write in English first, and then translate into Russian.
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Lorde - Royals (US Version)
Music video by Lorde performing Royals. (C) 2013 Universal Music NZ Ltd.
Get Lorde’s Pure Heroine album here: https://Lorde.lnk.to/PureHeroineID
Listen to more Lorde:
https://Lorde.lnk.to/LordeID
Follow Lorde:
Website: http://lorde.co.nz/
Instagram:…
Get Lorde’s Pure Heroine album here: https://Lorde.lnk.to/PureHeroineID
Listen to more Lorde:
https://Lorde.lnk.to/LordeID
Follow Lorde:
Website: http://lorde.co.nz/
Instagram:…
Lorde - Royals
This seems to be the most popular New Zealand song in the world right now - almost a billion views on YouTube. The singer lives here in Auckland, about 10 minutes’ drive from us, in Takapuna.
I really love music. After moving to NZ, I explored the local artists to understand the country and its culture better. NZ has a surprisingly rich music scene. I found lots of artists I like and hope to see live.
Lorde isn’t one of those I love - I prefer more niche genres - but I understand why she’s popular. She definitely has her own sound. Just wanted to share, so you know she’s from NZ too.
(Russian)
This seems to be the most popular New Zealand song in the world right now - almost a billion views on YouTube. The singer lives here in Auckland, about 10 minutes’ drive from us, in Takapuna.
I really love music. After moving to NZ, I explored the local artists to understand the country and its culture better. NZ has a surprisingly rich music scene. I found lots of artists I like and hope to see live.
Lorde isn’t one of those I love - I prefer more niche genres - but I understand why she’s popular. She definitely has her own sound. Just wanted to share, so you know she’s from NZ too.
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Birdland
New Zealand has lots of birds because it was isolated for millions of years without any land predators. Birds were able to get here, live, and evolve without having to worry about their safety.
In the video, you can hear the typical sounds of New Zealand. It’s not just in parks - the same chirping can be heard in Auckland as well. Early in the morning, when I wake up, I hear a similar soundscape from the open window (video here). During the day, it’s less noticeable because of traffic and other noises, but the birds are still everywhere – even in the city centre.
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New Zealand has lots of birds because it was isolated for millions of years without any land predators. Birds were able to get here, live, and evolve without having to worry about their safety.
In the video, you can hear the typical sounds of New Zealand. It’s not just in parks - the same chirping can be heard in Auckland as well. Early in the morning, when I wake up, I hear a similar soundscape from the open window (video here). During the day, it’s less noticeable because of traffic and other noises, but the birds are still everywhere – even in the city centre.
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Autumn in Auckland
Tawharanui Marine Reserve. The same beach as in the video above, just at sunset. The waves are massive, so there are always plenty of surfers. It’s the best surfing spot I’ve seen so far - they ride huge waves almost non-stop.
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Tawharanui Marine Reserve. The same beach as in the video above, just at sunset. The waves are massive, so there are always plenty of surfers. It’s the best surfing spot I’ve seen so far - they ride huge waves almost non-stop.
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Who are Kiwis?
Back in 1900, New Zealand's population was around 750,000. Now it's 5.3 million – a sevenfold increase. The USA, another melting pot, has experienced its population grow fourfold over the same time.
So, New Zealand is literally a country of immigrants. Here is a good infographic video showing immigration inflow from different countries to New Zealand since 1867.
The result of this immigration is shown in the picture above (wiki). 71% are Kiwis, or people born in New Zealand. Their parents or grandparents might have come from all over the world, but they’re Kiwis.
Because this big influx of immigrants is legal (I talked about it in detail here), New Zealand manages to be a good melting pot - attracting people in demand and filtering out the rest.
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Back in 1900, New Zealand's population was around 750,000. Now it's 5.3 million – a sevenfold increase. The USA, another melting pot, has experienced its population grow fourfold over the same time.
So, New Zealand is literally a country of immigrants. Here is a good infographic video showing immigration inflow from different countries to New Zealand since 1867.
The result of this immigration is shown in the picture above (wiki). 71% are Kiwis, or people born in New Zealand. Their parents or grandparents might have come from all over the world, but they’re Kiwis.
Because this big influx of immigrants is legal (I talked about it in detail here), New Zealand manages to be a good melting pot - attracting people in demand and filtering out the rest.
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Что я потерял после переезда
О потере статуса после переезда в Новую Зеландию из России
MP3-версия - https://t.me/OutsidersInsight/137
*Chapters*
00:00 Интро
01:14 Статус в России
03:15 Примеры из РФ
06:01 Как статус влиял на меня
07:52 Статус в Новой Зеландии
09:38 Примеры из НЗ
14:22…
MP3-версия - https://t.me/OutsidersInsight/137
*Chapters*
00:00 Интро
01:14 Статус в России
03:15 Примеры из РФ
06:01 Как статус влиял на меня
07:52 Статус в Новой Зеландии
09:38 Примеры из НЗ
14:22…
A video version of the post about freedom from status.
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