A Pope can say something erroneous and heretical in the ordinary, non-definitive sense since that would just imply what that Pope is saying is not binding and isn’t in continuity with Church teaching or tradition. Thus, what he has taught ordinarily is not to be followed since it goes against the extraordinary magisterium. When I say “teach” I mean it in the non-definitive and ordinary sense, not the infallible and extraordinary sense.
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If it is so lowly and lacking in teaching authority then why is it that so many people say it teaches error and heresy? It either teaches heresy or it does not, if it does then the Catholic church has defected in her teaching authority. If it does not teach…
You’re acting like a Pope can’t err and spur out heresy when speaking ordinarily. This would mean that Francis’ and John Paul II’s many encyclicals that said erroneous and heretical things are binding, but they are not for the reasons I have mentioned. Same with Vatican II. The Church can’t dogmatically pronounce error and heresy or teach it in the extraordinary and infallible sense, that’s nonsense.
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Fr. Hesse explains why Vatican II is Not A Council of the Church
Canon Lawyer, Doctor of Thomistic Theology and former secretary to Cardinal Stickler, Fr. Gregory Hesse explains why the Second Vatican Council can not possibly be a Council of the Catholic Church. This is a must watch.
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The Second Vatican Council Explained In Under 2 minutes by Fr. Gregory Hesse
Never knew the Church could infallibly teach something that goes against Catholic dogma and the Syllabus of Errors. You live and you learn I guess.
If Vatican II is infallible, the Church is defectible since the Church can’t definitively teach error and heresy. If Vatican II is fallible (it is), then the Church is indefectible still since Vatican II didn’t make use of the extraordinary magisterium at all.
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How is being pro-Francis, pro-NorvusOrdo, pro-JPII and pro-VII “orthodoxy?”
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More of the point I just brought up. Nobody will address the arguments, its all "HURR DURR YOU LISTEN TO (insert show I don't like)." The same argument could be tossed at you, but insert people I don't like that you listen to. Furthermore, if Catholic answers…
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So if Paul VI says that the council did not bind the faithful to anything, then the council did not bind the faithful to heresy, which means "traditional" Catholics need to stop saying that Vatican 2 taught heresy. Glad we understand each other.
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Neither Matt Fradd, nor Catholic Answers, are proponents of the current Pope. Matt Fradd left the novus ordo for an Eastern Catholic Church, same with (((Trent Horn))), and both of them are very critical of the novus ordo. The other issues i'm not as well versed on, but it gets back to my point of not being able to represent the positions of your opponents accurately.
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How is being pro-Francis, pro-NorvusOrdo, pro-JPII and pro-VII “orthodoxy?”
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Neither Matt Fradd, nor Catholic Answers, are proponents of the current Pope. Matt Fradd left the novus ordo for an Eastern Catholic Church, same with (((Trent Horn))), and both of them are very critical of the novus ordo. The other issues i'm not as well…
Yeah but they think it’s okay to attend and licit
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“Ever since 1870, with Papal Infallibility being proclaimed a Dogma, people make the mistake of extending this Papal infallibility into matters where it cannot possibly enter”
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Cult of rebellion against the Church? Is this some sort of new “anti-RadTrad” strawman 😂😂
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You know what's funny? On the rare occasion I've tuned into Catholic Answers and they were getting questions about whatever dumb shit Francis said that week, that's pretty much how they went about explaining it. Their general formula was to state that not…
They’re also bad because they say Vatican II and Ecumenism are good, refuse to speak out about what’s really going on inside the church, that it’s okay to attend the new mass, and pervert dogmas such as Extra Ecclesiasm Nulla Sallus.